"Flight 1234," the control tower advised, "turn right 45 degrees for noise abatement." "Roger," the pilot responded, "but we're at 35,000 feet. How much noise can we make up here?" "Sir," the radar man replied, "have you ever heard the noise a 727 makes when it hits a 747?"

Does anyone know where the applications for the Mississippi Choctaw who applied for free land in OK are kept? Cleo , Qeen of De Nial

Gloria, If your ancestors are melungeon/Indian then we're probably related! I have many reasons to suspect both. Strange stories. My aunt even said quite bluntly,"There are secrets about my mother's people you will never discover" ! Well, I have plenty of clues. My grandmother's name was Indian-(Etelka) and Latin(?) Vetula. I did not know her name until last year when my father blurted out," My mother's name was Etelka at Christmas dinner!" I exclaimed,"Dad it doesn't sound English (all he's talked about-his father's side-what is it?) He said quietly,"well, It's Indian." I said ,"gee.. Dad do you mean to tell me..you're Indian?" He quickly changed the subject, can not seem to find a picture of his mother and has refused to discuss her except for giving me three CONFLICTING reasons why she was not Indian! His sister gave me a fourth!) So was her sister's - La Vera Elzina. Sounds like a melungeon mix. They were odd people as I remember from my childhood-wore long black dresses and high laced black boots and kept to themselves in the hills of TN. My grandmother's parents-Redema Ramey & Samuel Good- seem to spring from nowhere onto a rich man's property and train his horses in order to buy the stables when Etelka was 10. Very strange. I have a picture of Mary JEAN -who was my great grandmother and married to a Travis Milton Ramey. I have paintings of them done by their daughter, my grandmother-Redema Ramey. Both have very dark copper colored ruddy looking skin (Spanish ?Indian Portuguese? Probably some mixture? ) Also,my great grandmother is wearing gold feather earrings! I have NC>TN> AL. If interested, I will send to you. Lots lof luck. Teresa Panther Yates

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-----Original Message----- From: Cindy Chandler [mailto:cchandler@statecom.net] Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2000 2:28 AM To: Martin's; m@zoomnet.net Subject: RE: [RAMEY-L] Information Please Hi Gloria and Bethany, Tried to send this directly to you but it bounced back so sorry I had to send thru the list. From what I have so far our Rameys have bounced from Rabun Ga to Oconee SC and back again. They did not seem to venture far. I have no found them anywhere else so far. Joel Ramey was buried in Virginia but only because of the war. I have one Daniel in my file but so far have not found a connection, he was married to Polly Morton in 1818. No Jacob's found. If I can help any more please let me know. Cindy

Think I missed this sheet when I posted Ramey info. OHIO Military Men Name-Race-Residence-Enlisted-Date-Birth place-age Harry M. Ramey W. 113 1/2 Jackson St. Newark, OH Newark OH; 22 Mar 1918 Newark OH 29 6/12 years old. Harry W. Ramey w. 315 Chapin St. Toledo OH; Toledo OH 3 Sept 1918 Decautur, ILL, 3 May 1897 John H. Ramey W. Rock Camp OH/ b. Rush KY 28 Sept 1872 Lawrence Ramey Colored Springfield OH, Springfiled, 3 Sep 1915 Cincinnai OH, 19 Years . Lester Ramey W Canton O. 6 Jun 1917 Canton OH, 18 1/12 years. Ralph E. Ramey W. Rock Camp Oh; Lawrence O; 2 Oct 1918 Ironton OH 31 Aug 1898 Rosco Ramey W 135 Hinkle Aave. Columbus OH. 12 Jun 1917 Lawrence Co KY 19 6/12 Stanley B. Ramey W 418 Nicholas St. Defiance OH; Collumbus Barracks Oh; 15 Dec. 1917 Norrh Ekfrid, Ontario, Canada 27 11/12 Thomas E. White W 124 RAMEY AVE Cambridge, OH; 2 Sep 1918 Cambridge OH; 10 June 1895 Harry H. Ramey W Hilliards OH; Columbus OH 8 Jul 1917 Davisville KY/ 20 3/12 Cleo Queen of DE Nial

Gloria, Cindy knows more about this than I do, but the ones that I know of came from Georgia and South Carolina. Bethany -----Original Message----- From: Gloria Marcum [mailto:rgmarcum@zoomnet.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2000 8:22 PM To: RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RAMEY-L] Information Please Cindy and Bethany, Where were your line of Rameys located. Virginia? Kentucky? Do you have any of the following Daniel, Jacob, Jacob Jr. , Alice? Gloria ----- Original Message ----- From: Cindy Chandler <cchandler@statecom.net> To: <RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 21, 2000 3:57 AM Subject: RE: [RAMEY-L] Information Please > Bethany, > > Bessie was not married to 3 different men. Bessie Ramey was married to > Effort Wilbanks only. > The grandmother you are referring to is your greaat great Granny Eliza Jane > Wilbanks Pointer Smith.....grandpa Effort's mother. She has been my Wilbanks > roadblock so you and I need to get together and talk. I have a little bit of > info but not much. Will gather some info and send you what I have or maybe > get together with you this weekend and bring you loads of info. > > Talk to you tomorrow, > your cuz > Cindy W. Chandler > > -----Original Message----- > From: The Martin's [mailto:bethanyam@alltel.net] > Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2000 9:35 PM > To: RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [RAMEY-L] Information Please > > > Yes that is the Bessie I am looking for. I was told that she was married to > 3 different people. IF it is possible that i can find the book someplace > let me know, I would love to read the article. I would love to have > anything else that pertains to this line too. Thank you very much. Please > tell the others that you mentioned earlier to feel free to email me also. > Thanks for every thing. > Bethany Wilbanks Ramey > bethanyam@alltel.net > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BB123046@aol.com [mailto:BB123046@aol.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2000 6:31 PM > To: RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [RAMEY-L] Information Please > > > Bethany~ I have a book with an article about Bessie Ramey Wilbanks. Lists > all > her info and info on her husband and 15 children. Is this the right Bessie? > She is daughter of Leander and Sarah Ramey. None of the 15 children are > named > Bessie and I do not see a marriage to a Beck (however this book is full of > Becks and Rameys) and the article states that Bessie and Effort Wilbanks are > buried in the Salem Baptist Church Cemetery. > Do you want more on this Bessie? > Bonnie > > > ==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to > RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the body > type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else. > > > > ==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to > RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the body > type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else. > > > ==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the body type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else. > > ==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the body type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else.

Cindy and Bethany, Where were your line of Rameys located. Virginia? Kentucky? Do you have any of the following Daniel, Jacob, Jacob Jr. , Alice? Gloria ----- Original Message ----- From: Cindy Chandler <cchandler@statecom.net> To: <RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 21, 2000 3:57 AM Subject: RE: [RAMEY-L] Information Please > Bethany, > > Bessie was not married to 3 different men. Bessie Ramey was married to > Effort Wilbanks only. > The grandmother you are referring to is your greaat great Granny Eliza Jane > Wilbanks Pointer Smith.....grandpa Effort's mother. She has been my Wilbanks > roadblock so you and I need to get together and talk. I have a little bit of > info but not much. Will gather some info and send you what I have or maybe > get together with you this weekend and bring you loads of info. > > Talk to you tomorrow, > your cuz > Cindy W. Chandler > > -----Original Message----- > From: The Martin's [mailto:bethanyam@alltel.net] > Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2000 9:35 PM > To: RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [RAMEY-L] Information Please > > > Yes that is the Bessie I am looking for. I was told that she was married to > 3 different people. IF it is possible that i can find the book someplace > let me know, I would love to read the article. I would love to have > anything else that pertains to this line too. Thank you very much. Please > tell the others that you mentioned earlier to feel free to email me also. > Thanks for every thing. > Bethany Wilbanks Ramey > bethanyam@alltel.net > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BB123046@aol.com [mailto:BB123046@aol.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2000 6:31 PM > To: RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [RAMEY-L] Information Please > > > Bethany~ I have a book with an article about Bessie Ramey Wilbanks. Lists > all > her info and info on her husband and 15 children. Is this the right Bessie? > She is daughter of Leander and Sarah Ramey. None of the 15 children are > named > Bessie and I do not see a marriage to a Beck (however this book is full of > Becks and Rameys) and the article states that Bessie and Effort Wilbanks are > buried in the Salem Baptist Church Cemetery. > Do you want more on this Bessie? > Bonnie > > > ==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to > RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the body > type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else. > > > > ==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to > RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the body > type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else. > > > ==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the body type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else. > >

NOR MINE!!!!!!!!! -----Original Message----- From: Jean Dalrymple [mailto:motherd@theriver.com] Sent: Monday, April 24, 2000 11:10 AM To: RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [RAMEY-L] Raymie line or Remy or Ramey SO true! :) :) By Jove, I think she's got it...............and I'm sure while they (the UFO's) were at it they beamed up my Ramey's in PA and planted them down in KS and CO. Sandy, don't give up............someone out there is looking for your RAMEYs.......they just haven't seen your post yet........nor mine.......nor Jeannie's. <sigh> <grin> Dorothy in CA From: Hannahramy@aol.com [mailto:Hannahramy@aol.com] Sent: Monday, April 24, 2000 9:50 AM ==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the body type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else.

Ramey this time. Renny Columbus Barracks OH, 29 May 1917, b. Adams KY 22 1/2 years of age. Axiner J. 133 1/2 S. American Red Cross Hosp; Alliance, O 27 May 1918; b. Martin Co KY 27 1/2 years of age. Charles A. 89 Lincoln Ave. Newark O; Columbus OH 22 Jul 1918 b. Newark O, 21 Aug 1892 Chester A. RFD 4, Hilliards O; Colubus O. 27 May 1918/ b. Davisville, KY 22 4/1/2 years old Cosby L. 710 Forest Ave., Middletown O; 3 Oct 1917 b. Cowan KY, 22 1/12 years old Edward W. Ironton, OH Fort Logan Co. 27 Oct 1917 b. Ironon O; 21 9/12 Ernest A. 125 W. Genessee Ave. Kinden Heights OH; Franklin Co., 15 Oct 1918 b. Mt. Vernon OH 4 Feb 1899 Frank Piney Fork O; Steubenville OH; 2 Apr 1918 b. Left Bridge, ILL, 25 2/12 Frank D. Columbus Oh, Kansas City MO; 2 Apr 1917 b. Columbus OH 22 Feb. 1897 Harold E. Canton, O; Canton O, 1 jan 1917 b. Canton OH, 20 years of age. Are you happy now Nefi? Lets see a smile Cleo, Queen of De Nial

This information is from Hawkeye Heritage, Spring 2002. The following names were settlers who came to Jefferson County, Iowa, or who were born there prior to December 28, 1846 and who were still living there as of September 1, 1908; compiled by the Old Settlers Assn. 1845 Mrs. Sarah Ramey 1846 Ezra Ramey Grand Army of the Republic, Walter C. Truman Post #442, Abington, Iowa. The Post was chartered on 14 September 1887 and disbanded in 1890. The following were charter members and still members when the Post disbanded: Ramey, Ezra Co. B, 8th Iowa Cav. Reg. Born 26 May 1840, OH. Son of Jacob and Sarah (Longerbone) Ramey. Mar. to Sarah E. George. Died 1 Nov 1914, Abington Cem. Note: I have no further information. Write to the Jefferson Co. Genealogical Society, 2791 240th St., Fairfield, Iowa 52556-8518 if you need help. Ann

Well said Gloria!!!! Who cares what we find, lord just PLEASE.......let us find them!!! Faith >I want to know my ancestry, I don't care if they are melungeons, Black Dutch, Indians or anything else-I JUST WANT TO KNOW! Gloria >

Well God Bless You All that are researching the Rameys or Remys. I have tried for months to get information on my line from Wise, Va. and have found very little. You would almost think they did this to us deliberately. I want to know my ancestry, I don't care if they are melungeons, Black Dutch, Indians or anything else-I JUST WANT TO KNOW! Gloria

SO true! :) :) By Jove, I think she's got it...............and I'm sure while they (the UFO's) were at it they beamed up my Ramey's in PA and planted them down in KS and CO. Sandy, don't give up............someone out there is looking for your RAMEYs.......they just haven't seen your post yet........nor mine.......nor Jeannie's. <sigh> <grin> Dorothy in CA From: Hannahramy@aol.com [mailto:Hannahramy@aol.com] Sent: Monday, April 24, 2000 9:50 AM

What Cheer, IA is in Keokuk County. The Iowa Genealogical Society, P.O. Box 7735, Des Moines, Iowa 50322-7735, has death, marriage and land ownership publications available for Keokuk county in those years. There are publications available for other Iowa counties, also. They may be willing to research state census records for your people. Iowa took a state census in between federal census years and has records for 1856, 1885, 1895, 1905, 1915, and 1925. Ann > -----Original Message----- > From: Sandra Seitz [mailto:whiskey1@mwt.net] > Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2000 4:08 PM > To: RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [RAMEY-L] Raymie line or Remy or Ramey > > Hello, > I have posted before and to no avail. I am going to try again. I am > beginning to think my family ancestors crawled out from under rocks I don't > have much but here is what I have. > > Louie (Louis Ramey, Remy or Raymie) married Virginia Salinsky. they lived > in What Cheer Ia. > > They had three children that we know of and possibly more they were > Louie Raymie br 30 aug 1887 and died 6 june 1940 He married Elizabeth > Sonnenburg in What Cheer IA. > > Frank Raymie br 1 july 1893 and died 8 march 1983 > > Jule Raymie br 11 sep 1898 and unknown death date. > > If anyone has this line I would appreciate hearing from you. > Thanks > Sandy > > > ==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to > RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the body > type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else. > > > > ==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the body type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else. > >

They may have been dropped off in Roswell on one of the UFO's that visit that area.... I KNOW that several of my ancestors did...... jd <>< -----Original Message----- From: Sandra Seitz [mailto:whiskey1@mwt.net] Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2000 4:08 PM To: RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [RAMEY-L] Raymie line or Remy or Ramey Hello, I have posted before and to no avail. I am going to try again. I am beginning to think my family ancestors crawled out from under rocks I don't have much but here is what I have. Louie (Louis Ramey, Remy or Raymie) married Virginia Salinsky. they lived in What Cheer Ia. They had three children that we know of and possibly more they were Louie Raymie br 30 aug 1887 and died 6 june 1940 He married Elizabeth Sonnenburg in What Cheer IA. Frank Raymie br 1 july 1893 and died 8 march 1983 Jule Raymie br 11 sep 1898 and unknown death date. If anyone has this line I would appreciate hearing from you. Thanks Sandy ==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the body type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else.

Hello, I have posted before and to no avail. I am going to try again. I am beginning to think my family ancestors crawled out from under rocks I don't have much but here is what I have. Louie (Louis Ramey, Remy or Raymie) married Virginia Salinsky. they lived in What Cheer Ia. They had three children that we know of and possibly more they were Louie Raymie br 30 aug 1887 and died 6 june 1940 He married Elizabeth Sonnenburg in What Cheer IA. Frank Raymie br 1 july 1893 and died 8 march 1983 Jule Raymie br 11 sep 1898 and unknown death date. If anyone has this line I would appreciate hearing from you. Thanks Sandy

Thank you! It gets pretty wearisome at times. I am very confused and my family only makes it worse by giving me either no information (my aunt literally told me," The only thing I know about my mother is that she got married and had me,") or conflicting information. I suspect some skeletons they don't want to discuss-long story... Teresa Panther-Yates

OH Military Men 1917-1918 Name Race Residence Enlist Location, Date Birth place,bd Reamy, Eugene Field W 3 Reserve Division & Vince St. Cincinnati, OH birth place Mt. Sterling O. b. 1 Nov 1872 Reamy, Bernard Leroy W. 277 S 4th St. Philadelphia PA. b. Chagrin Falls OH. 26 Nov 1887 Leufkens, J.W. Remy W. 2847 E. 98th Post Laundry, Cleveland OH, enlisted Cleveland Oh, 26 May 1918 b. Voeerindal, Netherlands 27 7/12 years old. Remy Ayden A. W. 111 Blanch, Mansfield O. Mansfield OH. 25 May 1918 b. Mansfield O. 14 Aug 1894 Remy, Clayton L. W. Columbiana O. Clevealnd Oh 20 Dec 1917 b. Mansfield OH 25 5/12 years old Remy, Earl T. W 111 Blanch St. Mansfield OH Columbus Barracks OH 31 July 1917 Mansfield Oh. 20 10/12 years old Remy, Edward Jr. 89 3 Reserve Divison St. Mansfield O. b.Mansfield OH, 30 July 1881 Remy, John E. W RFD 2, Ray OH McArthur O. 27 May 1918 b. Ray OH. 25 9/12 Remy, Lewis F. W RFD 3 Wellston,OH Jackson O 26 May 1918 Allensville O 29 11/12 Remy, Robert C. 183 W. 2nd St. Mansfield O.Wooster O, 15 Oct 1918, Mansfield OH 10 Jan 1899 Remy, Theron P. W. 554 E. Gates St. Columbus OH. Columbus OH, 17 Oct 1918. Richland Co O 2 Apr. 1898 Rameys tomorrow-I am tired. EXERCISE and DIET To Fight Hazardous Waists.

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