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The USGS mapping service says that Ramey is in Rowan County, KY, west of Morehead. According to the censuses, there were many Ramey families living in Rowan County during the 19th century. Rick Ramey Forest, Virginia

I was on the internet today mapping the route from Winchester, KY to Flemingsburg, KY and the map gave me the community of Ramey. Looks like it must be in Bath or Rowan County. Anybody know anything about the community? I've lived in KY all my life and this is the first I've seen or heard of a village or town or whatever called Ramey. Also, one of my co-workers (who is from the Lewis County area) told me that there is a Ramey Chappel Christian Church on the Lewis county - Fleming County line. Interesting tid-bit! Sandra Griffett Winchester H.R. VN 745-3354

I am forwarding this as I feel that it is important especially for the newbies on the list. Jeannie <>< To: KYRESEARCH@rootsweb.com Subject: TIP #292 - DOCUMENT, DOCUMENT, DOCUMENT - THE CENSUS I have "hit" upon this topic before, but more and more I see new researchers, and some more experienced ones - just taking as Gospel truth everything they find. This might be from web sites, files, letters .... if someone else has it this way, it must be true. Not so! I have been doing genealogy for twenty-eight years now and still am finding my mistakes. Genealogy is not an exact science; we will never have everything right. But, we can do the best we can. If you pick up information, investigate it, dissect it, chew it over and sometimes, spit it out! It's lovely to be able to trace our family tree to famous political or historical characters, or tie into royalty. But ... some of us just can't do it. We just come from the average every-day pioneer stock. Just because the first name or the last name ties in with someone in a famous family, doesn't mean it's the same person. I'm sure there were a lot of namesakes for John Quincy Adams, George Washington or Daniel Boone. But, is OUR Daniel Boone THE Daniel Boone? Sometimes our ancestors were well-written; sometimes we throw a party if we can find them anywhere. They seemed to hide out at census taking time, didn't fight in any battles, never served on any juries, got married under an alias - whatever! But, they are our family and we do want to find them. Sometimes we find the "skeleton in the closet" too .... it's not our fault! One of the first and most important sources for our family tree search of course, is the census. Finding our family on an early census is wonderful but we need to be aware that there are built in problems with the census records as with any other printed source. George Washington was the one responsible for seeing that a 10-year census was taken in the United States. It became law in 1790 and is still proceeding. Realizing that in 1790, our country only had about 3,231,533 people; it wasn't quite as difficult as it is today. Slaves an Indians weren't counted - the government was more interested in the number of men who might be able to serve in the military if we again entered into a major war. Memories of the Revolutionary War were quite fresh in the minds of our leaders and many of those who had fought in that war were getting up in years. The English saw to it that most of the 1790 census was destroyed during the War of 1812. The only remaining records that provide data on the people of that census is from the tax records, and of course, only the head of household is listed, no females shown. It was also determined that the results of a census had to remain private for 72 years. One can understand the reasoning behind this - people might be more prone to snoop into private information or give false answers if they thought the whole world knew the real facts! The latest census available for public research is the 1920 census. Legally, the censuses cannot be copied or microfilmed until the end of the 72 years and this takes time too. Why there are errors on the census you might ask? Well, the main blame falls on the census takers and the people who answered the questions, and the transcriptions of the data ..... the list is endless. The census taker was a man ... just an ordinary man who was selected for the task. Like in today's world, some took the job more seriously than others. If the man could write (no matter how well), he was picked. He might be of French, Scotch, Irish or German background - hearing the names differently (as a Kentucky transplant I understand that!). His handwriting might be scribbled. They got tired, missed houses, got false information. Not all were uneducated of course - they could be farmers needing extra money on a year when the crops weren't doing well, teachers .... so we can't classify them all as uneducated. Thankfully, most of them lived in the area of enumeration however. Most were diligent and the results are as perfect as they could provide. They earned money - and it was hard-earned! No speedy cars - but by horseback, house after house. If we attempt to follow the trail of the census taker on his loyal steed, we might become quite disorganized. There were no specific laws on how this was to be done - they just said giddy-up go and took off for the nearest farm or house. Thus - even though the house numbers shown follow in sequential order, it did not necessarily mean that the two houses were next to each other. He could zigzag all over the place, cutting through the woods, coming back to houses where he had found no one at home earlier. He could cut home for dinner and then take out in a different direction, but the house numbers remained in order. Mary and Martha, having a neighborly back yard talk might show up many pages apart Most of the time, the people answering the census taker's questions were adult. But ... the weary census taker, hot from a long day's work, might have to resort to asking children or great-grandma the questions. Can you imagine him asking a 7 year old boy where his parents were born, how old they were, how many children in the family? Or great-grandma who sometimes couldn't even remember her own name! If you do a comparison over several censuses, you might find the state of birth bouncing from state to state and ages all over the place. Until you have the actual date of birth, you have to do an averaging game; ages could vary up to 10 years from census to census. Some women got younger on every census, children's names varied from Charles to Charley to C. W. to Boy .... So, in your first step of documentation using the census, beware! Compare the census records carefully. A child not shown? Were they born in the right time frame to be listed? Had they died right after the census was taken? Were they the child of the head of household or a relative living with them? Chart them out - then start trying to fill in the missing gaps or correcting the wrong information from other sources. (c) Copyright 18 May 2000, Sandra K. Gorin, All Rights reserved. sgorin@glasgow-ky.com Col. 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Looking for John Milton Ramey, supposedly Rev. J. Milton Ramey. He was an adult in 1860's. Believe to have been born in Granville Co. N.C.then to Caswell County and to Robertson Co. Tenn. Went by the name Milton Ramey. Any help appreciated. A.Sawyer

Went to the site and I liked it, however, there are only two RAMEYS on it as you said. I will check it out periodically. Thanks again! Carolyn Perkins csramey@aol.com

Hi Everyone The Annual Southern Ohio/Kentucky Ramey Reunion will be held near Chillicothe, Ohio Saturday, July 22, 2000 at Camp Cattail, just off Bier's Run Road, just past Roweton Boy's Ranch. You will receive Specific directions later. Just wanted you to get this date on your calendars. Lew Jenkins of Cleveland, Oh

In a message dated 5/15/00 2:52:27 PM Central Daylight Time, earlremy@webtv.net writes: << Subj: [RAMEY-L] Remy Ancestry Date: 5/15/00 2:52:27 PM Central Daylight Time From: earlremy@webtv.net (Earl Remy) Reply-to: RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com To: RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com I am looking for information on Nathan Halloway Remy born in Hazel Green, Wolfe County, Ky. He was born in1847 and Died in 1928 at Kansas City, Jackson County, Missouri. Thanks cousins Earl Remy >> Here's another one.http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=elmeroliver&id= I5278 or <A HREF="http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=elmeroliver&i d=I5278">RootsWeb's WorldConnect Project: Remy Bentley Genealogy</A>

In a message dated 5/15/00 2:52:27 PM Central Daylight Time, earlremy@webtv.net writes: << I am looking for information on Nathan Halloway Remy born in Hazel Green, Wolfe County, Ky. He was born in1847 and Died in 1928 at Kansas City, Jackson County, Missouri. Thanks cousins Earl Remy >> This is a start. http://www.familysearch.com/Search/af/ancestral_file_frame.asp?recid=12863826 or <A HREF="http://www.familysearch.com/Search/af/ancestral_file_frame.asp?recid=128 63826">Ancestral File Frame</A>

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Just received a newspaper article about the marriage of my grandparents Miss Quina (Queenie) Dalton and Richard Kinnett. In attendance at the wedding were a Miss Daisy Ramey and a Mr. Fred Ramey. The mother of Quina Dalton was Rosanna or Rose Ann Ramey. This wedding took place in Lansing, Leavenworth Co., Kansas on April 16, 1902. Does anyone have any idea who Daisy and Fred Ramey belong too. I know they may be cousins of Rosanna, I do know that they are not siblings of hers. Would really appreciate anyone having a Ramey in the Lansing, Leavenworth, Kansas or just across the river in Missouri, to contact me with any leads you may have. Thank you Shirley

Hi Earl, I don't have anything on your Nathan Remy. However, this litttle tid bit might be helpful. Wolfe Co KY was not formed until ca. 1856 but before 1860. Parts of Breathitt and Morgan Co KY made up Wolfe Co. I have seen the name Ramey in Wolfe Co-as witnesses to some of my Creech/Cox marriages. It is my opinion that the Ramey bunch that came from Morgan Co KY- Maybe a line thru an Archibald Ramey-memory is the first to go-so they say. I have forgotten who said that. Cleo, Queen of DE NIAL ----- Original Message ----- From: Earl Remy <earlremy@webtv.net> To: <RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 7:51 PM Subject: [RAMEY-L] Remy Ancestry > I am looking for information on Nathan Halloway Remy born in Hazel > Green, Wolfe County, Ky. He was born in1847 and Died in 1928 at Kansas > City, Jackson County, Missouri. > > Thanks > cousins > > Earl Remy > > > > > > > > > > > ==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the body type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else. >

Hi Shirley, I do not know the MO counties very well at all-however here is a Rose that married a Ramey- +---------------------------------- Modify ------------------------------------+ ¦ Name: Rose #17330 Sex: F ¦ ¦ Born: in of Audrian Co MO ¦ ¦ in ¦ ¦ Died: 17 Dec 1929 in Monroe MO ¦ ¦ Buried: in ¦ ¦ in ¦ ¦ Ref: obit Audrian Co MO ¦ +--------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---¦ ¦ Father: not entered ¦ ¦ Mother: not entered ¦ ¦ Spouse: James Ramey #17329 ¦ ¦ ¦: Audrian Co MO Obits 1917-1929; Surname: Rose; Given name ¦MRs. James Ramey; Co of Death-Monroe; 17 Dec 1929; issued 19 Dec 1929. Cleo ----- Original Message ----- From: Shirley J. Kovar <mjk@inetnebr.com> To: <RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 11:56 PM Subject: [RAMEY-L] Miss Daisy Ramey and Mr. Fred Ramey > Just received a newspaper article about the marriage of my grandparents > Miss Quina (Queenie) Dalton and Richard Kinnett. In attendance at the > wedding were a Miss Daisy Ramey and a Mr. Fred Ramey. The mother of Quina > Dalton was Rosanna or Rose Ann Ramey. This wedding took place in Lansing, > Leavenworth Co., Kansas on April 16, 1902. > > Does anyone have any idea who Daisy and Fred Ramey belong too. I know they > may be cousins of Rosanna, I do know that they are not siblings of hers. > Would really appreciate anyone having a Ramey in the Lansing, Leavenworth, > Kansas or just across the river in Missouri, to contact me with any leads > you may have. > > Thank you > > Shirley > > > ==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the body type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else. >

Hi all, my good friend Mary sent me this thinking that she was being a bit smart around the gills.. :0 As I am always sending her things and telling her to file it for future reference.... ;) especially where the Adkins are concerned... :) Do hope that someone can use this Ramey info... and thanks Miz Mary ya' done good!.... jd <>< -----Original Message----- Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 5:28 PM To: motherd@theriver.com Subject: Dear friend, I checked a couple of cds out today and learned the following to help you out. Anajaline Adkins married A.C. Ramey 17 Mar 1872 in Pike County Ky. Andrew Jackson Adkins married Abagail Franny Ramey 26 Dec. 1850 in Pike County Ky. Winston Adkins married Susan Ramey 21 Dec 1867 in Pike County Ky. John Blake married Lucy Atkins 26 Aug 1809 in Culpeper County Va. James Blake married Nancy Adkins 20 Dec 1797 in Montgomery County Va. Aren't you proud of me finding all that good stuff for you. I want you to be sure to put this in file and don't lose it!!!! Love, Mary

I am trying to locate an e-mail address for Margaret Dougherty of Yuba City, California. I have found several posts with Margaret's name on them with respect to the Ramey/Lunbeck line, which I am also researching; however, the e-mail address she provided at the time is no longer active. If anyone could help me I would appreciate it very much.

I am looking for information on Nathan Halloway Remy born in Hazel Green, Wolfe County, Ky. He was born in1847 and Died in 1928 at Kansas City, Jackson County, Missouri. Thanks cousins Earl Remy

Carolyn, I do not recognize any names though we could be related. I do not know because I am really stumped on this line as well. I do know that Ramey is a possible Melungeon name, so you may wish to explore Melungeon sites as well. (See Brent Kennedy's book The Melungeons. ) The Melungeons are thought to be a tri-racial (or more) mixture of possibilities: Portuguese and/or Indian and/or European and/or Spanish and/or Turkish. It would explain a lot for me. Good luck! Teresa P.S. Get back in touch later if you find out more info.

Hi Queenie, that is because they all went to KY.... Ste. -----Original Message----- From: Marsil Creech [mailto:MARCREECH@prodigy.net] Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 3:28 PM To: Subject: [RAMEY-L] VA Marriage 1851-1900 Notice that the only Rameys in VA during that time period that got married all lived in Lee Co VA. Isn't that amazing? This has probably been around before but a different source. Given Name Surname Given Name of Spouse Marr Date. Co State Marriages date. Joshua E. Thomas m. Margaret E. RAMEY 22/07/1870 Lee Co VA Joseph Neil m. E.S. RAMEY 12/12/1872 Lee Co VA B.F. Davidson m. S.M. RAMEY 28/08/1874 Lee Co VA. Cleo, Queen of DE NIAL and still holder of the crown ==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the body type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else.

Good morning and Happy Mothers Day to all of you Mom's out there. I am leaving here in a few and won't be home to send out the proper greeting, and besides you guys on the list would not appreciate a loverly Mothers Day Card, so just doing it this way... Have a great weekend..... Jeannie <><

Good morning every one... Well something is kaput on some of the lists OR.... We just aren't paying attention to what we are doing ( and that includes me too) and the mail is coming to me instead of the lists... SO..... if we would all just sorta remember to check when we reply that it is going where we want it instead of to me I would appreciate it.... When I get back on Monday and have more time, I will go in and check to see that everything is checked off correctly..... Thanks LOADS..... Jeannie <><