I am looking for information on George W. Ramey (b. 1825 Calhoun Co., Ms / d. 1-1895 Trinity, Tx) m. to Martha Jane Langston. Would appreciate any help and infomation going up the various twigs and branches. Thanks, Joe Ed

To: KYRESEARCH@rootsweb.com Subject: TIP #295 - CIVIL WAR PRISON CAMPS CONCLUSION The prison camps are filled to capacity ... what could be done? Both Union and Confederates were forced into using an exchange program. A prisoner had to be exchanged within ten days after his capture - if no exchange was made, the prisoner was supposed to be released after he signed a pledge that he would never again take up arms against his captors until he could be formally exchanged. The prison camp officials had to trust the prisoner because many times it took months before a prisoner could be legally exchanged. While waiting for the exchange, the prisoners were supposed to be able to return home to their family or to their unit. Looked good on paper! This shortly became a problem when the soldier did not return as promised. Some of the prisoners were then sent "out west" to fight Indians. An agreement was finally reached in July of 1862 between Gen. John A. Dix and Confederate General Daniel H. Hill. It was very complex and cost the governments much money. Soldiers would often allow themselves to be captured in the hope that they would be sent home. The Confederates were forced some times to refuse parole or exchange for great periods of time. At the capture of Vicksburg, Miss. Union Gen. Ulysses S. Grant paroled about 31,600 Confederate defenders of the city at one time. Two years later, at Appomattox, he paroled the 28,231 members of Lee's Army of Northern Virginia-and they were never exchanged. The basis of exchange was as follows: 1 general = 46 privates 1 major general = 40 privates 1 brigadier general = 20 privates 1 colonel = 15 privates 1 lieutenant colonel = 10 privates 1 major = 8 privates 1 captain = 6 privates 1 lieutenant = 4 privates 1 noncommissioned officer = 2 privates The Union and Confederacy occasionally held prisoners of war as hostages sentenced to death in retaliation for some action taken by the other side. This happened when, at the beginning of the war, the Confederates, including Jefferson Davis and Savannah were captured, and the United States sentenced the officers and crew to be executed for piracy. The Confederacy struck back in retaliation selecting the same number of Union prisoners, all high ranking officers from Castle Pinckney prison in Charleston Harbor, and placed them in confinement, sentenced to death. When two Rebel officers in Kentucky were executed by federal forces for spying, the Confederate government chose two Union officers from Libby Prison and sentenced them to the same fate. The United States promptly notified Richmond that it held Confederate General Robert E. Lee's son, General W.H.F."Rooney" Lee, prisoner and would hang him if the sentence against the Libby prisoners was carried out. Union officials stopped the program in 1864 which resulted in overcrowding and the most miserable conditions for prisoners of war. Disease, hunger, and overexposure killed many prisoners. About 194,000 Union soldiers were held prisoner of whom 22,576 died; about 214,000 Confederates were held in Northern prisons and 26,436 died. They were buried where they died, far from their homes and family. In Sumter County, Ga., Andersonville, on some days more than 100 men were buried in trenches there. Andersonville was established as a national cemetery in 1865, and today white stone markers in painfully long rows mark the almost 13,000 graves of prisoners who died there, joined by almost 3,000 newer graves of veterans. Elmira Prison in New York was a death sentence for 2,917 Confederates. An ex-slave was paid to bury the dead prisoners in a 2.5 acre cemetery. In 1877 it was renamed "Woodlawn Cemetery." Camp Chase's cemetery, "The City of the Dead," holds the remains of 2,260 Confederate soldiers. (c) Copyright 8 June 2000, Sandra K. Gorin, all rights reserved. sgorin@glasgow-ky.com Col. Sandi Gorin, 205 Clements,Glasgow, KY 42141 (270) 651-9114 - E-fax (707)222-1210 - e-mail: sgorin@glasgow-ky.com Member: Glasgow-Barren Co Chamber of Commerce Publishing: http://members.delphi.com/gorin1/index.html Barren Co: http://www.rootsweb.com/~kybarren/ TIPS: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ky/Tips KYBIOS: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ky/Bios ARCHIVES: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl ==== KYRESEARCH Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe, send message to KYRESEARCH-REQUEST@rootsweb.com and say unsubscribe in the message.

> >>FYI and enjoy! >>1. My idea of housework is to sweep the room with a glance. >> >>2. Not one shred of evidence supports the notion that life is serious. >> >>3. It is easier to get forgiveness than permission. >> >>4. I have found at my age going bra-less pulls all the wrinkles out of >>my face. >> >>5. For every action, there is an equal and opposite government program. >> >>6. Age is a very high price to pay for maturity. >> >>7. A closed mouth gathers no feet. >> >>8. If you look like your passport picture, you probably need the trip. >> >>9. Bills travel through the mail at twice the speed of checks. >> >>10. A conscience is what hurts when all your other parts feel so good. >> >>11. Eat well, stay fit, die anyway. >> >>12. Men are from earth. Women are from earth. Deal with it. >> >>13. No husband has ever been shot while doing the dishes. >> >>14. A balanced diet is a cookie in each hand. >> >>15. Middle age is when broadness of the mind and narrowness of the waist >>change places. >> >>16. Opportunities always look bigger going than coming. >> >>17. Junk is something you throw away three weeks before you need it. >> >>18. There is always one more imbecile than you counted on. >> >>19. Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity. >> >>20. Going to church doesn't make you a Christian any more than going to >>a garage makes you a mechanic. >> >>21. Experience is a wonderful thing. It enables you to recognize a >>mistake when you make it again. >> >>22. Thou shalt not weigh more than thy refrigerator. >> >>23. Someone who thinks logically provides a nice contrast to the real >>world. >> >>24. I believe the only time the world beats a path to my door is when >>I'm in the bathroom. >> >>25. Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves for they shall never >>cease to be amused. >> > > > >

I am aware of a Robert L REAMY who was imprisoned at Point Lookout MD and died there and I believe his name iws on a statue there. Also my gr uncle John Taliaferro Reamy was imprisoned there and he escaped along with a friend by, I am told by my gr grandmother, his sister, that he hid in the garbage wagon and they dumped it in the Potomac River and he and the friend swam the river and escaped. John lived and married twice and had a fairly large family and died in the soldier's home in Richmond VA. The friend was George Mothershead who later married John's sister Luticia. Mildred

TIP #294 - PRISONER OF WAR CAMPS - PART 2: OHIO STATE PENITENTIARY, Columbus, OH Date Opened: July 30 1863 as prisoner of war camp Prisoners: Confederate, including John Hunt Morgan and 30 of his men. Size: 3 story stone building, barred windows and doors on cell blocks. Conditions: No visitors, heads shaved, convict clothes, bread and water diet. Deaths: Morgan and six of his officers escaped. No record shown on deaths. OLD CAPITOL PRISON, Washington, D. C. Date Opened: Not shown. Prisoners: North and South, spies. Size: Not shown Conditions: Old and dilapidated, high fences, ironed bars added. Deaths: Not shown, many hangings. POINT LOOKOUT, MD. Peninsula where Potomac River flows into the Chesapeake Bay. Date Opened: 1 August 1863 Prisoners: Confederate?, enlisted men Size: 2 buildings, one covering 10 acres and one 30 acres, 15 foot highfence. Conditions: Overcrowded tents, no protection from the weather. Rats eaten to survive. Scarcity of water, much pollution. Contention between prisoners and guards. Deaths: Not reported CASTLE THUNDER: Unable to find location. Date Opened: Not shown - 1863. After Richmond fell 1865, Union troops used. Prisoners: Union, political prisoners, spies and those charged with treason. Size and Description: Converted tobacco warehouse. Conditions: Greatly feared by all. Brutality well known. ROCK ISLAND: Island in the Mississippi River between Davenport, IA and Rock Island, IL Date Opened: Not shown. Prisoners: Confederate. Size and Description: Shanties. Conditions: Horrid sanitation, inadequate water supply and poor drainage, smallpox. 5,000 prisoners there in December 1863. Deaths: Over 600 within three months. Total estimated at 1,960 prisoners and 171 guards. SALISBURY PRISON: Salisbury, North Carolina Date Opened as Camp: 2 Nov 1861 Prisoners: Union, deserters, spies and Southerners deemed disloyal. Size and Description: Abandoned cotton factory. Located near rail line, included brick factory and boarding houses. Conditions: Fresh water, well fed. Board fence. Over 2000 prisoners in early 1864; by Oct 1864, 10,000 prisoners. Had to put in tents, mud huts or holes in the ground. Death: Only one reported but camp deteriorated into a sanitation nightmare. See: http://www.ohiohistory.org/resource/database/civilwar.html To be continued next week with a look at prisoner exchanges and other events surrounding these camps. (c) Copyright 1 June 2000, Sandra K.Gorin. All rights reserved. sgorin@glasgow-ky.com Col. Sandi Gorin, 205 Clements,Glasgow, KY 42141 (270) 651-9114 - E-fax (707)222-1210 - e-mail: sgorin@glasgow-ky.com Member: Glasgow-Barren Co Chamber of Commerce Publishing: http://members.delphi.com/gorin1/index.html Barren Co: http://www.rootsweb.com/~kybarren/ TIPS: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ky/Tips KYBIOS: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ky/Bios ARCHIVES: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl ==== KYRESEARCH Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe, send message to KYRESEARCH-REQUEST@rootsweb.com and say unsubscribe in the message.

> > >>> > Burn that flag... > > just ask permission... > > Written by Tom Adkins > (7/1/98) > > What do we do about people who want to burn the American flag? You > know...those folks who want to stomp all over it, or spit on it to >make some > sort of "statement." Some say the first Amendment gives us the >right to > desecrate the American flag. Others want to make it illegal. This is >a tough > one. What should we do? I can solve this one easily. I believe we >should > have a simple requirement. Let flag desecration be legal, but you >have to > have three sponsors who will give you written permission. Those >sponsors > should be from a panel of experts who might be considered >"qualified" to give > such permission. > > First, you need a signature of a war veteran. How about a Marine who >fought > at Iwo Jima? > > The men who raised that flag over Iwo Jima did so on the bodies of > thousands of dead Americans, who gave their lives so a few could >raise the > flag in defiant claim of that last island in a long, bloody march to >defeat the > Japanese. What did those Marines think about the flag as they >watched their > comrades get slaughtered? Every battle with the Japanese was >horrific. Each > day meant half of everyone you knew would be dead tomorrow. Your own > future was a coin flip away from a bloody death in a place your >family couldn't > pronounce. Or you could ask a Vietnam vet who spent years in a POW > prison, tortured in small, filthy cells unfit for a dog. Or Korean >War soldiers > who rescued half a nation from communism, or the Desert Storm >warriors > who repulsed a bloody dictator from raping and pillaging an innocent >country, > to find people from a foreign land kiss our flag as we drove through >their > streets. > > To every American soldier who ever fought for the United States, >that flag > represented your mother and father, your sister and brother, your >friends, > neighbors, your fellow countrymen...In fact it stands for your >freedom, > guaranteed by your nation. Those who fought, fought for that flag. > Those who died, died for that flag. I wonder what they would say if >someone > asked their permission to burn a flag? > > Next, you need a signature of an immigrant. Preferably one who left >their > family behind. Their brothers and sisters languish in their native >land, often > subject to tyranny, poverty and failure, while America offers >freedom and > prosperity. > > Some have seen friends and family be tortured and murdered by their >own > government for daring to do many things we take for granted every >day. > Many give their lives in the struggle just to touch our shores, even >as America > turns its back and returns them to face persecution once again in >their native > land. For those who risked everything simply for the chance to >become an > American...what kind of feelings do they have for the flag when they >pledge > allegiance to it for the first time? Go to a naturalization ceremony >and see for > yourself, the tears of pride, the thanks, the love and respect of >this nation, as > they finally embrace the flag of our nation as their own. Then, walk >up and > ask one of them if it would be OK to spit on the flag. > > Last, you need a signature from someone living in a foreign land who >cannot > get here. Say, Rwanda. Or maybe Bosnia. Maybe even Haiti. You might >have > to move fast, as they flee oppressors who attack them with machete's >or > shoot at them randomly in a marketplace. I'm sure they will never >question > your sanity as they duck for cover. > > The writers of the Declaration of Independence are long gone. I >wonder what > they thought of the American flag as they drafted that document? >They knew > such an act would drag the nation into war with England, the >greatest power > on earth. Did the flag mean anything to them? > > They knew failure of independence meant more than just a >disappointment. It > meant a noose would be snugly stretched around their necks. I wonder >how > they'd feel if someone asked their permission to toss the flag in a >mud > puddle? > > In the absence of family, the absence of the precious shores of >home, in the > face of overwhelming odds and often in the face of death itself, the >American > flag inspires those who believe in the American dream, the American >promise, > the American vision... > > Americans who don't appreciate the flag are usually those who don't > appreciate this nation. And those who appreciate this nation >appreciate the > American flag. > > So if you would, before you desecrate the American flag, before you >spit on it, > before you ignore it or despise it...please ask permission. Not from >the > constitution. Not from some obscure law. Not from the politicians or >the > pundits. > > Please ask permission from those who founded the nation. Please ask >those > who defended our shores so that we may be free today. Please ask >those > who fought to reach our shores so that they may partake in the >American > dream. > > And then, please ask permission from those who died wishing they >could, just > once ... or once again...see, touch or kiss the flag that stands for >our nation, > the United States of America...the greatest nation on earth.

"Time" June 14, 1999 Pg. 7" The American G.I. >From disparate roots but united by patriotic courage, U.S. soldiers preserved freedom around the world By Colin Powell As Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, I referred to the men and women of the armed forces as "G.I.s." It got me in trouble with some of my colleagues at the time. Several years earlier, the Army had officially excised the term as an unfavorable characterization derived from the designation "government issue." Sailors and Marines wanted to be known as sailors and Marines. Airmen, notwithstanding their origins as a rib of the Army, wished to be called simply airmen. Collectively, they were blandly referred to as "service members." I persisted in using G.I.s and found I was in good company. Newspapers and television shows used it all the time. The most famous and successful government education program was known as the G.I. Bill, and it still uses that title for a newer generation of veterans. When you added one of the most common boy's names to it, you got G.I. Joe, and the name of the most popular boy's toy ever, the G.I. Joe action figure. And let's not forget G.I. Jane. G.I. is a World War II term that two generations later continues to conjure up the warmest and proudest memories of a noble war that pitted pure good against pure evil-and good triumphed. The victors in that war were the American G.I.s, the Willies and Joes, the farmer from Iowa and the steelworker from Pittsburgh who stepped off a landing craft into the hell of Omaha Beach. The G.I. was the wisecracking kid Marine from Brooklyn who clawed his way up a deadly hill on a Pacific island. He was a black fighter pilot escorting white bomber pilots over Italy and Germany, proving that skin color had nothing to do with skill or courage. He was a native Japanese-American infantryman released from his own country's concentration camp to join the fight. She was a nurse relieving the agony of a dying teenager. He was a petty officer standing on the edge of a heaving aircraft carrier with two signal paddles in his hands, helping guide a dive-bomber pilot back onto the deck. They were America. They reflected our diverse origins. They were the embodiment of the American spirit of courage and dedication. They were truly a "people's army," going forth on a crusade to save democracy and freedom, to defeat tyrants, to save oppressed peoples and to make their families proud of them. They were the Private Ryans, and they stood firm in the thin red line. For most of those G.I.s, World War II was the adventure of their lifetime. Nothing they would ever do in the future would match their experiences as the warriors of democracy, saving the world from its own insanity. You can still see them in every Fourth of July color guard, their gait faltering but ever proud. Their forebears went by other names: doughboys, Yanks, buffalo soldiers, Johnny Reb, Rough Riders. But "G.I." will be forever lodged in the consciousness of our nation to apply to them all. The G.I. carried the value system of the American people. The G.I.s were the surest guarantee of America's commitment. For more than 200 years, they answered the call to fight the nation's battles. They never went forth as mercenaries on the road to conquest. They went forth as reluctant warriors, as citizen soldiers. They were as gentle in victory as they were vicious in battle. I've had survivors of Nazi concentration camps tell me of the joy they experienced as the G.I.s liberated them: America had arrived! I've had a wealthy Japanese businessman come into my office and tell me what it was like for him as a child in 1945 to await the arrival of the dreaded American beasts, and instead meet a smiling G.I. who gave him a Hershey bar. In thanks, the businessman was donating a large sum of money to the USO. After thanking him, I gave him as a souvenir a Hershey bar I had autographed. He took it and began to cry. The 20th century can be called many things, but it was most certainly a century of war. The American G.I.s helped defeat fascism and communism. They came home in triumph from the ferocious battlefields of World Wars I and II. In Korea and Vietnam they fought just as bravely as any of their predecessors, but no triumphant receptions awaited them at home. They soldiered on through the twilight struggles of the cold war and showed what they were capable of in Desert Storm. The American people took them into their hearts again. In this century hundreds of thousands of G.I.s died to bring to the beginning of the 21st century the victory of democracy as the ascendant political system on the face of the earth. The G.I.s were willing to travel far away and give their llives, if necessary, to secure the rights and freedoms of others. Only a nation such as ours, based on a firm moral foundation, could make such a request of its citizens. And the G.I.s wanted nothing more than to get the job done and then return home safely. All they asked for in repayment from those they freed was the opportunity to help them become part of the world of democracy-and just enough land to bury their fallen comrades, beneath simple white crosses and Stars of David. The volunteer G.I.s of today stand watch in Korea, the Persian Gulf, Europe and the dangerous terrain of the Balkans. We must never see them as mere hirelings, off in a corner of our society. They are our best, and we owe them our full support and our sincerest thanks. As this century closes, we look back to identify the great leaders and personalities of the past 100 years. We do so in a world still troubled, but full of promise. That promise was gained by the young men and women of America who fought and died for freedom. Near the top of any listing of the most important people of the 20th century must stand, in singular honor, the American G.I. General Colin Powell, former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, is now chairman of America's Promise.

>>> WANTED FOR ATTEMPTED MURDER - (the actual AP headline) >>> >> > >>> >> >Linda Burnett, 23, a resident of San Diego, was visiting her >>> >> >in-laws, and while there went to a nearby supermarket to pick >>> >> >up some groceries. Several people noticed her sitting in her >>> >> >car with the windows rolled up and with her eyes closed, with >>> >> >both hands behind the back of her head. One customer who had >>> >> >been at the store for a while became concerned and walked >>> >> >over to the car. He noticed that Linda's eyes were now open, >>> >> >and she looked very strange. >>> >> >He asked her if she was okay, and Linda replied that she'd >>> >> >been shot in the back of the head, and had been holding her >>> >> >brains in for over an hour. The man called the >>> >> >paramedics, who broke into the car because the doors were >>> >> >locked and Linda refused to remove her hands from her >>> >> >head. When they finally got in, they found that Linda had a wad >>> >> >of >>> >> >bread dough on the back of her head. A Pillsbury biscuit >>> >> >canister had exploded from the heat, making a loud noise that >>> >> >sounded like a gunshot, and the wad of dough hit her in the >>> >> >back of her head. When she reached back to find out what it was, >>> >> >she felt the dough and thought it was her brains. She >>> >> >initially passed out, but quickly recovered and tried to hold her >>brains >>> >> >in for over an hour until someone noticed and came to her aid. >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> >

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Yes! I would love to be able to get this information. Would you please send me the address and thank you so much. Gloria ----- Original Message ----- From: Duponts <lddupont@home.com> To: <RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 12:57 AM Subject: [RAMEY-L] Re: Remy Family in America Book > If anyone would like the address of someone who is willing to send a copy of > the Remy Family in America book, please e-mail me directly and I will > provide the e-mail address to contact. > > Or...this person has also posted on the Ramey bulletin board at > http://www.ancestry.com/MsgBoards/messages/messages.asp?category=surname&for > um=Ramey > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Laura Miller" <slssmiller@netzero.net> > To: <RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 8:24 PM > Subject: [RAMEY-L] Elizabeth Remy > > > > Anyone need this? Laura > > > > Laura, > > > > > > Good to hear from you. Thanks for the info you sent on Jacob > > Remy. > > > Do you know how I could go about getting a copy of this Remy book??? > > I > > > would love to read it. My source of Remy information is through a > > second > > > cousin of mine named Darrell Warner. He has a webpage with quite a > > few > > > names in it. He did alot of research on some of his relatives, but > > I am > > > not sure where his source for Remys came from. His website is: > > > > > > http://www.qni.com/~dw/surnames.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again, > > > > > > Wilma > > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________ > > NetZero - Defenders of the Free World > > Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email > > http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html > > > > > > ==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== > > To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to > RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the body > type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else. > > > > > ==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the body type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else. > >

To: KYRESEARCH@rootsweb.com Subject: TIP #293 CIVIL WAR PRISONER OF WAR CAMPS TIP #293 - PRISONER OF WAR CAMPS Below I have listed the prison camps which existed during the Civil War. Kentucky soldiers were housed in many of these. Where I have been able to find a source where the reader can search for a specific name, I have included it. CAMP ANDERSONVILLE, Sumter County, GA Opened: February 1864 Size and description: 26 acres Prisoners: Union, over 32,000 Difficulties: Lack of fresh water, sanitation at a minimum as the stream in the prison yard also served as the latrine. Known deaths there: 13,000 Web site: http://www.corinthian.net/mccc/plookup.htm CAMP BELL ISLAND, James River at Richmond, VA Opened after the 1st Bull Run Prisoners: Union Size and description: No barracks, clusters of tents Difficulties: Difficult escapes because of the rapids of the James River, many drowned trying to escape. Known deaths there: Unknown CAMP CHASE, Location: 4 miles west of Columbus, OH Opened: First used as training camp for Union Volunteers Prisoners: Confederate, 1861 Size and description: Over 9,000 Difficulties: No visitors, no prisoners allowed to leave camp. Not enough food, overcrowding. Many prisoners starved to death or died because of exposure. Known deaths: No totals found, said to have averaged 40 Confederate soldiers a day. CAMP DOUGLAS, Near Chicago, Il Opened: February 1862 for prisoners after surrender of Fort Donelson. Prisoners: Union Size and description: Large, sprawling, held over 7,000 prisoners Difficulties: Disease, poor sanitation, hunger, lack of clothing in winter, stagnant water, rotting bodied laying around, varmit infested. Known Deaths: No totals found, said that in Jan and Feb of 1863, approximately 18 prisoners died a day. CAMP FORD, 4 miles northwest of Tyler, TX Opened: August 1863. Prisoners: Union Size and description: Slaves built the open stockades, built their own shelters. Sod Huts, Holes in the ground with canvas stretched over them. Largest in Texas. By late 1864, over 4,900 prisoners held here. Conditions: Running water, stream in the midst of camp. Minimal food shortages with local farmers being allowed to sell produce to the prisoners. Prisoners could earn money by doing crafts Known Deaths: 250-230 CAMP PINCKNEY, about a mile off shore from Charleston on a shoal off Shutes Folly Island. Opened: Originally built by the government in the 1790 to protect Charleston. One of the first prisoner of war camps, not a death camp. Prisoners: Union Size and description: None found Conditions: One of the best. Strict discipline, clean, sanitary, peaceful, no known escapees Known Deaths: None found CAMP DANVILLE: Danville, VA Opened: Not found. Prisoners: Union Size and Description: 6 tobacco warehouses. Conditions: Said to be peaceful, but possibly with bad conditions. Crowded, rows of cots And narrow isles. Had smallpox and fever raging here. Known Deaths: CAMP ELMIRA, Elmira, NY Opened: 1864. Prisoners: Confederates Size and Description: 40 acres, 35 barracks Conditions: High death rate, horrid living conditions, most caused by the Camp Colonel - Starvation high. Over 10,000 men confined there by August of 1874. Few clothes and no Blankets. Rations reduced to bread and water. 1,870 cases of scurvey, pneumonia, Diarrhea, smallpox. At the end of 1874, 1,264 prisoners were dead. Donated clothing By families but only those that were gray in color were distributed. Known Deaths: At least 25 percent of the 12,123 prisoners who entered; at war's end, 2,963 dead. FORT DELAWARE, Pea Patch Island in the Delaware River. Opened: Prior to 1863. Prisoners: Confederates Size and Description: Built to house 2,000 but had increased to 8,000 by 1863. Officers Housed in buildings; men in tents or wooden barracks. Conditions: Many ill with scurvey, food only came from civilian sympathizers. If soldiers Had money, bartered; if not, they would sell parts of their clothes to buy food. Water Impure, flooding with dead fish, dead leaves, wretched smell. Small box epidemic in 1863. Known Deaths: Not recorded, but prisoners held here for an additional 2 months after The war had ended. FORT JEFFERSON: Garden Key, Dry Tortugas (islands west of Key West). Opened: 1846 as a coastal fort. Prisoners: Criminals from Union Armies Size and Description: Barren sand, 50 foot high brick walls. Conditions: Considered to be one of the worst, nicknamed "Devil's Island". Prisoners wore a ball and chain, insect problems, bedbugs, guards that were cruel to prisoners, yellow fever, malaria. Known Deaths: Not recorded FORT McHENRY: On a peninsula in Maryland's Baltimore Harbor. Opened: Not shown Prisoners: Confederate plus police commissioners, those who sympathized with the south, Army and Navy personnel who were sympathetic to the south, rebel surgeons and chaplains. Size and description: Not found Conditions: Considered one of the best. Prisoners well-treated, female visitors allowed, debate clubs held, more than one language spoken. Known deaths: Not found. JOHNSON'S ISLAND, Sandusky Bay, Lake Erie. Date Opened: February 1862 Prisoners: Confederate Size and description: 300 acres, barracks, each holding 180 men; hospital, wash house, mess halls. Guards on walkways at top of wooden fence. Conditions: Good food supply, prisoners could buy from locals, not crowded until later in the war. By later on, it held over 3,000 prisoners - men were mostly officers. LIBBY PRISON, Richmond, VA. Date opened: not shown Prisoners: Union Size: Three story brick building. Conditions: Considered a runner-up to Andersonville with an infamous reputation. Prisoners were so crowded as to have to sleep on their side to fit. Very short food supply, cold, lice, . If a soldier was seen in the windows looking out, he could be shot. By May 1964, 125,000 prisoners had been placed here - all officers. Deaths Recorded: Not shown. To be continued: (c) Copyright 25 May 2000, Sandra K. Gorin, All Rights Reserved, sgorin@glasgow-ky.com Col. Sandi Gorin, 205 Clements,Glasgow, KY 42141 (270) 651-9114 - E-fax (707)222-1210 - e-mail: sgorin@glasgow-ky.com Member: Glasgow-Barren Co Chamber of Commerce Publishing: http://members.delphi.com/gorin1/index.html Barren Co: http://www.rootsweb.com/~kybarren/ TIPS: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ky/Tips KYBIOS: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ky/Bios ARCHIVES: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl ==== KYRESEARCH Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe, send message to KYRESEARCH-REQUEST@rootsweb.com and say unsubscribe in the message.

Anyone need this? Laura Laura, > > Good to hear from you. Thanks for the info you sent on Jacob Remy. > Do you know how I could go about getting a copy of this Remy book??? I > would love to read it. My source of Remy information is through a second > cousin of mine named Darrell Warner. He has a webpage with quite a few > names in it. He did alot of research on some of his relatives, but I am > not sure where his source for Remys came from. His website is: > > http://www.qni.com/~dw/surnames.htm > > > > Thanks again, > > Wilma > _____________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html

If anyone would like the address of someone who is willing to send a copy of the Remy Family in America book, please e-mail me directly and I will provide the e-mail address to contact. Or...this person has also posted on the Ramey bulletin board at http://www.ancestry.com/MsgBoards/messages/messages.asp?category=surname&for um=Ramey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laura Miller" <slssmiller@netzero.net> To: <RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 8:24 PM Subject: [RAMEY-L] Elizabeth Remy > Anyone need this? Laura > > Laura, > > > > Good to hear from you. Thanks for the info you sent on Jacob > Remy. > > Do you know how I could go about getting a copy of this Remy book??? > I > > would love to read it. My source of Remy information is through a > second > > cousin of mine named Darrell Warner. He has a webpage with quite a > few > > names in it. He did alot of research on some of his relatives, but > I am > > not sure where his source for Remys came from. His website is: > > > > http://www.qni.com/~dw/surnames.htm > > > > > > > > Thanks again, > > > > Wilma > > > > > _____________________________________________ > NetZero - Defenders of the Free World > Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email > http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html > > > ==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the body type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else. >

Was Benjamin and Randolph Brothers????????? I have not researched this family as yet........but I live abt. 20 min. from N. C. Archives,so I can!!!!!!!!. Think we are in the same ballpark..........I will have to reread some of the letters...... Lenora Caroline Ramey was my gggm Ramey married Pheobe Lea Gunn of Caswell Co. and this family is traced back to 1635 to the Thomas Gunn Line. Descendants of Randolph Ramey Generation No. 1 1. RANDOLPH1 RAMEY was born 1777 in NC, and died 1841. He married JANE HUNT RAMEY December 04, 1802 in Granville Co., NC. Children of RANDOLPH RAMEY and JANE RAMEY are: 2. i. J. MILTON2 RAMEY, d. 1892. ii. JAMES H RAMEY, b. October 27, 1803, Granville Co., NC; d. June 27, 1878, MS. Notes for JAMES H RAMEY: Another death date of 2.18.1852 in Mississippi iii. THOMAS T RAMEY, b. November 09, 1805, Granville Co., NC; d. June 29, 1878, TN. iv. ABSOLUM DAVIS RAMEY, b. 1817, TN; d. 1869. v. ROBERT RYBURN RAMEY, b. June 18, 1818, Tn; d. May 12, 1886, Texas. vi. ELVIRA RAMEY, b. 1819, NC. vii. JOHN RANDOLPH RAMEY, b. 1820; d. 1847. viii. WILLIAM CLARENCE RAMEY, b. 1822. Generation No. 2 2. J. MILTON2 RAMEY (RANDOLPH1) died 1892. He married PHEOBE LEE GUNN, daughter of THOMAS GUNN and FRANCIS KILGORE. Children of J. RAMEY and PHEOBE GUNN are: i. FANNIE3 RAMEY. ii. RUFORD (RUFUS) RAMEY. iii. THOMAS B. RAMEY, b. March 20, 1846. 3. iv. LENORA CAROLINE RAMEY, b. 1853, Tenn.; d. 1917, Wake County, N.C.. v. MELVILLE SUMMERFIELD RAMEY, b. October 16, 1943. Generation No. 3 3. LENORA CAROLINE3 RAMEY (J. MILTON2, RANDOLPH1) was born 1853 in Tenn., and died 1917 in Wake County, N.C.. She married JOHN CALVIN FERRELL, son of ELI FERRELL and SUSAN MOORE. ----- Original Message ----- From: Donald Panther-Yates <dpantheryates@uwf.edu> To: <RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 5:49 PM Subject: Re: [RAMEY-L] J. Milton Ramey > A. Sawyer, > I do believe we are related, and I have looked for some time for someone > related to this line and have found nothing. Please write me back! > Descendants of Benjamin Ramey > > 1 Benjamin Ramey b: 1780 in North Carolina > . +Nancy Elizabeth_______ > .... 2 Phebe Ramey d: BEF 1852 > ....... +William L. Pamplin > .... 2 Delina Ramey d: BEF 1852 > ....... +Henry H. Pamplin > .... 2 Catharine Ramey > ....... +Jesse Creacey > .... 2 Abraham Ramey d: BEF 1852 > .... 2 Milton Ramey d: BEF 1852 > .......... 3 Travis Milton Ramey b: December 18, 1832 d: February 08, > 1908 Fact 7: 1860 > 1860 TN census- teacher-estate $325 > ............. +Mary Ann Elizabeth Jean b: February 14, 1844 d: April > 15, 1916 m: June 12, > 1859 > ................ 4 Redema (Demie) Elizabeth Ramey b: February 01, 1862 > d: January 07, > 1926 > ................... +Samuel Milton Good b: August 31, 1860 d: August > 31, 1935 m: December > 24, 1890 > ...................... 5 Etelka Vetula Good b: November 17, 1892 in AL > d: March 17, 1964 in > Huntsville, Ala. > ......................... +Glenn Gerald Grimwood b: August 01, 1886 in > Illinois d: December 07, > 1976 m: December 24, 1913 in Madison Cty.AL > ............................ 6 Floyd Milton Grimwood b: October 30, > 1916 in Hazel Green, > Alabama > ............................... +Nina Jo Newberry b: November 29, 1921 > in Dothan, Alabama d: > April 07, 1989 in Pensacola, Florida m: April 11, 1943 in Dothan AL > ............................ 6 Glenn Gerald Grimwood Jr. b: February > 06, 1919 in Huntsville, > Madison Co., Ala. d: May 1995 > ............................ 6 unknown b: ABT 1916 > ............................ 6 Elzina Grimwood b: ABT 1915 > ............................ 6 Mary Elizabeth Grimwood b: 1923 d: > November 25, 1925 > ...................... 5 La Vera Elzina Good b: July 01, 1895 d: > August 05, 1955 > ......................... +Robet True Beason, Sr. > ............................ 6 La Vera Elzina Beason > ............................... +Frank Windish > ............................ 6 Fred Newton Beason > ............................ 6 Brent Wade Beason > ............................ 6 Belinda Van Beason > ............................ 6 George Milton Beason b: July 30, 1921 > ............................... +Winnifred Aleen Eislinger > ............................ 6 Robert True Beason,Jr. b: April 19, > 1927 > ............................ 6 Jean Elizabeth Beason b: March 03, 1934 > > ................ 4 Marion Ramey > ................ 4 Travis Milton Ramey, Jr. > ................ 4 Elzina Ramey > ...................... 5 Samuel ----------- > .... 2 Mary Ann Ramey > ....... +Samuel Hall > .... 2 Nancy Ramey > ....... +James M. Davis > .... 2 Jane Ramey > ....... +Constantine A. Hall > .... 2 Cynthia Ann Ramey > ....... +Armstead Pamplin > .... 2 Wesley Ramey > *2nd spouse of Benjamin Ramey: > . +Elizabeth Parker b: 1805 in N.C. m: January 01, 1840 in Lincoln > Cty. TN > .... 2 Benjamin F.Ramey b: ABT 1839 > .... 2 Moody Ramey b: ABT 1840 > .... 2 William Driscol Ramey b: ABT 1845 > > Note: I also have a picture of Travis Milton Ramey & Mary Ann Elizabeth > Jean on our home page under portraits, if you are interested. Go to: > http://www.uwf.edu/english/Panther-Yates/famhist.htm > > Please write me back and let me know what information that you have & > how you are related to Milton Ramey. Etelka Vetula Good was my > grandmother, Redema Ramey was my great grandmother, Travis Milton Ramey > & Mary Elizabeth Jean were my gg grandparents, Milton Ramey was my ggg > grandfather, and Benjamin Ramey was my > gggg grandfather. > Teresa Panther-Yates > > > > ==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the body type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else. >

I think maybe we are..............I believe Benjamin Ramey was born unknown and lived in Granville County. I have a letter stating that "Travie" was hunting and shot himself............! There was another brother also...........I will have to send you what I have. J. Milton Ramey was a puzzle............supposedly a spy during the war.............have letters"his other family" wrote letters to him, evidently he was married two or three times. I have two letters that were supposedly written by him or two him in a code of some sort..........Anyway I will send you a copy of what I know about this line. Hope to hear from you. Please tell me where Travis ended up..........in what state ----- Original Message ----- From: Donald Panther-Yates <dpantheryates@uwf.edu> To: <RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 5:49 PM Subject: Re: [RAMEY-L] J. Milton Ramey > A. Sawyer, > I do believe we are related, and I have looked for some time for someone > related to this line and have found nothing. Please write me back! > Descendants of Benjamin Ramey > > 1 Benjamin Ramey b: 1780 in North Carolina > . +Nancy Elizabeth_______ > .... 2 Phebe Ramey d: BEF 1852 > ....... +William L. Pamplin > .... 2 Delina Ramey d: BEF 1852 > ....... +Henry H. Pamplin > .... 2 Catharine Ramey > ....... +Jesse Creacey > .... 2 Abraham Ramey d: BEF 1852 > .... 2 Milton Ramey d: BEF 1852 > .......... 3 Travis Milton Ramey b: December 18, 1832 d: February 08, > 1908 Fact 7: 1860 > 1860 TN census- teacher-estate $325 > ............. +Mary Ann Elizabeth Jean b: February 14, 1844 d: April > 15, 1916 m: June 12, > 1859 > ................ 4 Redema (Demie) Elizabeth Ramey b: February 01, 1862 > d: January 07, > 1926 > ................... +Samuel Milton Good b: August 31, 1860 d: August > 31, 1935 m: December > 24, 1890 > ...................... 5 Etelka Vetula Good b: November 17, 1892 in AL > d: March 17, 1964 in > Huntsville, Ala. > ......................... +Glenn Gerald Grimwood b: August 01, 1886 in > Illinois d: December 07, > 1976 m: December 24, 1913 in Madison Cty.AL > ............................ 6 Floyd Milton Grimwood b: October 30, > 1916 in Hazel Green, > Alabama > ............................... +Nina Jo Newberry b: November 29, 1921 > in Dothan, Alabama d: > April 07, 1989 in Pensacola, Florida m: April 11, 1943 in Dothan AL > ............................ 6 Glenn Gerald Grimwood Jr. b: February > 06, 1919 in Huntsville, > Madison Co., Ala. d: May 1995 > ............................ 6 unknown b: ABT 1916 > ............................ 6 Elzina Grimwood b: ABT 1915 > ............................ 6 Mary Elizabeth Grimwood b: 1923 d: > November 25, 1925 > ...................... 5 La Vera Elzina Good b: July 01, 1895 d: > August 05, 1955 > ......................... +Robet True Beason, Sr. > ............................ 6 La Vera Elzina Beason > ............................... +Frank Windish > ............................ 6 Fred Newton Beason > ............................ 6 Brent Wade Beason > ............................ 6 Belinda Van Beason > ............................ 6 George Milton Beason b: July 30, 1921 > ............................... +Winnifred Aleen Eislinger > ............................ 6 Robert True Beason,Jr. b: April 19, > 1927 > ............................ 6 Jean Elizabeth Beason b: March 03, 1934 > > ................ 4 Marion Ramey > ................ 4 Travis Milton Ramey, Jr. > ................ 4 Elzina Ramey > ...................... 5 Samuel ----------- > .... 2 Mary Ann Ramey > ....... +Samuel Hall > .... 2 Nancy Ramey > ....... +James M. Davis > .... 2 Jane Ramey > ....... +Constantine A. Hall > .... 2 Cynthia Ann Ramey > ....... +Armstead Pamplin > .... 2 Wesley Ramey > *2nd spouse of Benjamin Ramey: > . +Elizabeth Parker b: 1805 in N.C. m: January 01, 1840 in Lincoln > Cty. TN > .... 2 Benjamin F.Ramey b: ABT 1839 > .... 2 Moody Ramey b: ABT 1840 > .... 2 William Driscol Ramey b: ABT 1845 > > Note: I also have a picture of Travis Milton Ramey & Mary Ann Elizabeth > Jean on our home page under portraits, if you are interested. Go to: > http://www.uwf.edu/english/Panther-Yates/famhist.htm > > Please write me back and let me know what information that you have & > how you are related to Milton Ramey. Etelka Vetula Good was my > grandmother, Redema Ramey was my great grandmother, Travis Milton Ramey > & Mary Elizabeth Jean were my gg grandparents, Milton Ramey was my ggg > grandfather, and Benjamin Ramey was my > gggg grandfather. > Teresa Panther-Yates > > > > ==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the body type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else. >

A. Sawyer, I do believe we are related, and I have looked for some time for someone related to this line and have found nothing. Please write me back! Descendants of Benjamin Ramey 1 Benjamin Ramey b: 1780 in North Carolina . +Nancy Elizabeth_______ .... 2 Phebe Ramey d: BEF 1852 ....... +William L. Pamplin .... 2 Delina Ramey d: BEF 1852 ....... +Henry H. Pamplin .... 2 Catharine Ramey ....... +Jesse Creacey .... 2 Abraham Ramey d: BEF 1852 .... 2 Milton Ramey d: BEF 1852 .......... 3 Travis Milton Ramey b: December 18, 1832 d: February 08, 1908 Fact 7: 1860 1860 TN census- teacher-estate $325 ............. +Mary Ann Elizabeth Jean b: February 14, 1844 d: April 15, 1916 m: June 12, 1859 ................ 4 Redema (Demie) Elizabeth Ramey b: February 01, 1862 d: January 07, 1926 ................... +Samuel Milton Good b: August 31, 1860 d: August 31, 1935 m: December 24, 1890 ...................... 5 Etelka Vetula Good b: November 17, 1892 in AL d: March 17, 1964 in Huntsville, Ala. ......................... +Glenn Gerald Grimwood b: August 01, 1886 in Illinois d: December 07, 1976 m: December 24, 1913 in Madison Cty.AL ............................ 6 Floyd Milton Grimwood b: October 30, 1916 in Hazel Green, Alabama ............................... +Nina Jo Newberry b: November 29, 1921 in Dothan, Alabama d: April 07, 1989 in Pensacola, Florida m: April 11, 1943 in Dothan AL ............................ 6 Glenn Gerald Grimwood Jr. b: February 06, 1919 in Huntsville, Madison Co., Ala. d: May 1995 ............................ 6 unknown b: ABT 1916 ............................ 6 Elzina Grimwood b: ABT 1915 ............................ 6 Mary Elizabeth Grimwood b: 1923 d: November 25, 1925 ...................... 5 La Vera Elzina Good b: July 01, 1895 d: August 05, 1955 ......................... +Robet True Beason, Sr. ............................ 6 La Vera Elzina Beason ............................... +Frank Windish ............................ 6 Fred Newton Beason ............................ 6 Brent Wade Beason ............................ 6 Belinda Van Beason ............................ 6 George Milton Beason b: July 30, 1921 ............................... +Winnifred Aleen Eislinger ............................ 6 Robert True Beason,Jr. b: April 19, 1927 ............................ 6 Jean Elizabeth Beason b: March 03, 1934 ................ 4 Marion Ramey ................ 4 Travis Milton Ramey, Jr. ................ 4 Elzina Ramey ...................... 5 Samuel ----------- .... 2 Mary Ann Ramey ....... +Samuel Hall .... 2 Nancy Ramey ....... +James M. Davis .... 2 Jane Ramey ....... +Constantine A. Hall .... 2 Cynthia Ann Ramey ....... +Armstead Pamplin .... 2 Wesley Ramey *2nd spouse of Benjamin Ramey: . +Elizabeth Parker b: 1805 in N.C. m: January 01, 1840 in Lincoln Cty. TN .... 2 Benjamin F.Ramey b: ABT 1839 .... 2 Moody Ramey b: ABT 1840 .... 2 William Driscol Ramey b: ABT 1845 Note: I also have a picture of Travis Milton Ramey & Mary Ann Elizabeth Jean on our home page under portraits, if you are interested. Go to: http://www.uwf.edu/english/Panther-Yates/famhist.htm Please write me back and let me know what information that you have & how you are related to Milton Ramey. Etelka Vetula Good was my grandmother, Redema Ramey was my great grandmother, Travis Milton Ramey & Mary Elizabeth Jean were my gg grandparents, Milton Ramey was my ggg grandfather, and Benjamin Ramey was my gggg grandfather. Teresa Panther-Yates

The purple hat, Gents, please share with your ladies.... Jd <>< > > > > > > Age 3: Looks at herself and sees a Queen! > > > Age 8: Looks at herself and sees herself as > > Cinderella/Sleeping Beauty. > > > > Age 15: Looks at herself and sees herself as > > Cinderella/Sleeping Beauty/Cheerleader or if she > > is PMS'ing: sees Fat/Pimples/UGLY ("Mom I can't go > > to school looking like this!") > > > > Age 20: Looks at herself and sees "too fat/too thin, > > too short/too tall, too straight/too curly" - but > > decides she's going anyway. > > > > Age 30: Looks at herself and sees "too fat/too thin, > > too short/too tall, too straight/too curly" - but > > decides she doesn't have time to fix it so she's > > going anyway. > > Age 40: Looks at herself and sees "too fat/too thin, > > too short/too tall, too straight/too curly" - but > > says, "At least, I'm clean" and goes anyway. > > > > Age 50: Looks at herself and says, "I am" and goes > > wherever she wants to go. > > Age 60: Looks at herself and reminds herself of all > > the people who can't even see themselves in the mirror anymore. Goes out and conquers the world. > > Age 70: Looks at herself & sees wisdom, laughter and > > ability, goes out and enjoys life. > > > > Age 80: Doesn't bother to look. Just puts on a > > purple hat and goes out to have fun with the world. > > > >

The WORLD WAR I CIVILIAN DRAFT REGISTRATION database contains 1,215,381 records reflecting 141,114 surnames of all registrants born 1872-1900 from about 15% of U.S. counties. http://userdb.rootsweb.com/ww1/draft/ ----------------------------- ALSO.... For those states and counties that have not been transcribed yet the LDS Family History Center can order them for you.... I have been researching these records for several years and just love them... they will even tell if the gent was bald or not :) They tell who they were working for, where they lived, who the next of kin was, their birth day and place...the height, weight if I am not mistaken, and also there is a place where they can tell why they should NOT go to war..... I highly advise this record... Jeannie <><

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