Found page 46, Remy Family in America "1 Children of JACOB and MARY REMY . 11* WILLIAM, b. in 1672, m. Catherine Asbury and d. in 1737. 12*JACOB JR. b. 1675, m. Ann, daughter of Robert and Anna Sanford, who m. 2d Richard Omohundra before 1735. Jacob Jr., d. in 1726. FAMILY OF WILLIAM, SON OF JACOB REMY, SR. (1) 11 WILLIAM REMY, b. in 1672, m. abt. 1693 Catherine, dau.of Henry and Mary Asbury, receiving his inhertance when he married. He lived in Westoreland Co., Va., and d. in 1737. Westmoreland Co., Va, Deed Book 81, p. 448; "William Remey is deeded 100 acres of land from the heirs of Peter Ducan, and enters into possession of same in 1693." Westmoreland Co., Va., Order Book 1698 - 1705, p.9; "May 25, 1698, Benjamin George is bound as apprentice to William Remey." Westmoreland Co., Va., Deed Book 2,p.186; "May 30, 1699, William Remey witnesses deed from Edward Ransdell to Jacob Remey, Jr., his brother." Va.County Records, by Droizier; Proprietor Deeds of Grants, Book 2, p.291; "William Reamy 123 acres of land -1698." Westmoreland Co., Va., Order Book 1698-1705, P. 110; "William Remey, appointed Constable April 30, 1701." Va. County Records, by Crozier, Book 3, p.47; "Henry Asbury received Grant for 80 acres of land in 1704." Westmoreland Co., Va., Will Book 4.p.13; "Will of Henry Asbury, dated Feb.3, 1706, proved April 1707; to sons Henry 400 acres, Thomas 400 acres, Benjamin 100 acres, daughter Catherine, one cow. Executor; My wife Mary." Westmoreland Co., Va., Will Book 4, p. 249; "Mary Asbury, wido, gave unto Mary Remy, her granddaugher, daughter of William and Katherine Remy, a yearling heifer marked with a crop on the right ear ard (and?) cross and nick under the left and branded on the right buttock with the figure 3, which at the said Mary Asbury's request is entered on the records of W.Co., Va., the 19th day of June 1709. Pr.Ja: Westcomo, Clerk Court." Westmoreland Co., Va., Will Book 82, p. 548; "will of William Remy, aged 65, dated Nov. 19, 1737, proved May 30, 1738; To wife Catherine, use of plantation for life son William, on shilling To son Jacob Remeys heirs son Asbury Remey dau. Mary Sanders dau. Catherine Wormeth son John Remey, unmarried son James Remey, unmarried son Daniel Remey, under the age of 17 - the plantation when wife Mary dies granddau. Elizabeth Sanders, one feather bed when she married." There is more but I will have to send it later. If you would like copies of the pages, let me know and I would be happy to photocopy them for you. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gloria Marcum" <rgmarcum@zoomnet.net> To: <RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [RAMEY-L] Dr. Rhamey Book > Does the book give any information on the Ramey/Remy/Ramy line from Virginia > and parts of Ky? > Daniel Ramey+Dicy Catherine Hall > Jacob Ramey +Sarah Blevins > Jeremiah Ramey+Rebecca Dill > William Ramey+Catheryne Asbury > This is a few of the names, I thought I would give you several so you would > have more to go on. The counties involved in Va. are Wise, Scott, Russell, > Lee. Ky counties Letcher, Knott, Floyd and there may be more I don't know. > Gloria > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Duponts <lddupont@home.com> > To: <RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 11:29 AM > Subject: Re: [RAMEY-L] Dr. Rhamey Book > > > > I have a copy of his book - what would you like looked up? > > I'll be out for most of the day, but will try to do is as soon as > possible. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gloria Marcum" <rgmarcum@zoomnet.net> > > To: <RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 2:51 AM > > Subject: [RAMEY-L] Dr. Rhamey Book > > > > > > > Looking for someone that has access to Dr. Rhamey (Remy Genealogy). > Also > > need to talk to Cleo? Gloria > > > > > > > > > ==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to > > RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the > body > > type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else. > > > > > > > > > ==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== > > To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to > RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the body > type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else. > > > > > > > ==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the body type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else. >

I have a copy of his book - what would you like looked up? I'll be out for most of the day, but will try to do is as soon as possible. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gloria Marcum" <rgmarcum@zoomnet.net> To: <RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 2:51 AM Subject: [RAMEY-L] Dr. Rhamey Book > Looking for someone that has access to Dr. Rhamey (Remy Genealogy). Also need to talk to Cleo? Gloria > > > ==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the body type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else. >

There was a lady on one of these lists that hasn't read her e-mail for months.... She now has over 100 from just one list.... And as her mail box has been full for eons... and her mail was being RETURNED..... She was automatically UNSUBSCRIBED from the list.. I have it set up that after 3 bounces it will automatically unsubscribe you. I have a choice... 3, 4, 8, 12, 16 bounces........ I chose 3 because all of your bounced e-mails to the lists come to me and I have a LOT of lists...... :) then I have to send the bounced person a letter explaing to them that they are no longer a member and then forward their e-mails to the list..... Well, I have just decided that I am not going to do that any more.... So much for being a nice person :) and an understanding List Mom.... It is just sometimes overwhelming..... So remember guys and gals.... If you are going to be away from your computer for a few weeks or months or what ever... please UNSUBSCRIBE before you leave (unless you have unlimited capacity in your mail box) and then when you return you can resubscribe....... If you are subscribed to more then one list you can list all of them on one e-mail and do things in one swell swoop (I think) at least you used to be able to.... I am getting ready to leave for several months and will have to unsub from about 35 lists and resub to my away from home addy.... It takes a few min but will keep things from clogging up...... Jeannie <><

Hey.... No offence taken...... I just was getting some private e-mails and so sent that to the list to prevent any more queries to me on the subject... I love Genealogy... have been at it for over 40 years.... Can't do the actual research much any more as I am handicapped but sure do enjoy what I can do and the lists.... Keep up the chatter..... it is important and does help others...... Jeannie <>< -----Original Message----- From: Tom Ramey [mailto:tramey@txucom.net] Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2000 8:31 PM To: RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [RAMEY-L] George William Ramey Hi again Jean - You were very helpful and I certainly meant no offense and I hope none was taken. As you well know, trying to figure some of this out can be worse than a 100000 piece puzzle with no corners on the pieces, and you are certainly right about the census and its accuracy. In tracing Joseph Robert Ramey's wifes family, it was real interesting to note that they only aged on an average of 7 years every 10 years. Its a neat trick and I wish I had their secret. Thanks for your input and help. Tom Ramey -----Original Message----- From: Jean Dalrymple <motherd@theriver.com> To: <RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, June 10, 2000 10:04 PM Subject: RE: [RAMEY-L] George William Ramey >Hey.... ALL I did was copy from a book.... These folks are not mine..... >just trying to be helpful..... > >Now for a clue or two here..... as there were many that I sent with that >post... every one is concentrating on PENSION records.... How about just >the plain old MILITARY records..... you have to apply for those >separately.. > >Now also don't forget that the information given on those census records >were only as good as the person giving them and many times it could and was >the neighbor or a child etc etc....... my 4th great grandfather was born >who knows where... he had about 17 kids and half said he was born in PA and >the other half said VA.... AND s people didn't KNOW where they were born, >could have been born in PA and thought that they were born in IN... that >happened also in my family... AND one more then I am off of here for the >night..... yawnnnnnnnnnn....... Even tombstones are often WRONG........ >again the info is only as good as the person giving the information....... >and often the child had no inkling when a parent was born they just >guessed...... > >So keep up the chatter.... Tis good for the soul........ > ==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the body type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else.

I can do nothing wrong...... you seem to forget just WHO I am.....you had best treat me right or I will have to inform the boss......Ste -----Original Message----- From: Marsil Creech [mailto:MARCREECH@prodigy.net] Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2000 5:13 PM To: Lois Arthur; motherd@theriver.com Subject: Re: [RAMEY-L] George W. Ramey Now Ste. stuffing MY crown in your blouse will not do it-remember I have met you. Gonna have to find another place for stuffing. Besides that, my security people will be briefed on the entire situation. Remember OG was with the US Treasury Dept for ages and ages. He knows the ropes well. I will however tell him that a strip seach will not be necessary in your case. We have to remember who we are dealing with here. She does have her problems but then I have been told that eating all that chocolate will do that to a person.She is a person, right? You know, she has probably gained so much weight from all that chocolate that MY crown would not fit her anyway-Hey-someone said something about that once-a fat head. Poor thing deserves our pity, don't you think? I do believe she is disgruntled about not being in my court. I just did not have room for another jester. You have to take into consideration how the uniform would have fit her anyway. Oh gracious, what an image. Cleo, Queen of DE NIAL ----- Original Message ----- From: Lois Arthur <parish@smithville.net> To: <motherd@theriver.com> Cc: <marcreech@prodigy.net> Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 4:06 AM Subject: Re: [RAMEY-L] George W. Ramey > Ste, > > Hey, when you go to visit Cleo in three weeks, would you do me a favor? At > some point, draw her attention to something, like a cartoon maybe (she > loves cartoons) and when she is not looking, get my crown back. Stuff it > in your blouse or something. You will be doing the world a real justice. > The crown belongs to me and has been missing from my regal presence long > enough. If you can pull this off, I'll let you wear it once in a > while............ after I fumigate it!! > > Nefi > > ---------ORIGINAL MESSAGE---------- > : Good morning Cleo......... I sent him the stuff from "THE Book"... :) > and > : according to that he is thru the Hannah Neal and that Asbury bunch.... I > : told him to query the list..... He is Jacks cousin on the Lamb side... > cool > : huh.. wonder if he knows who he is talking to here.. tee hee hee bet > : not... see ya' in 3 weeks... Ste. > : > : nothing else.

I will have to think about that one Nefi.....you know she can out run me in that darn chair of hers..... she has these good looking hunks carrying it...... Ste -----Original Message----- From: Lois Arthur [mailto:parish@smithville.net] Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2000 9:06 PM To: motherd@theriver.com Cc: marcreech@prodigy.net Subject: Re: [RAMEY-L] George W. Ramey Ste, Hey, when you go to visit Cleo in three weeks, would you do me a favor? At some point, draw her attention to something, like a cartoon maybe (she loves cartoons) and when she is not looking, get my crown back. Stuff it in your blouse or something. You will be doing the world a real justice. The crown belongs to me and has been missing from my regal presence long enough. If you can pull this off, I'll let you wear it once in a while............ after I fumigate it!! Nefi ---------ORIGINAL MESSAGE---------- : Good morning Cleo......... I sent him the stuff from "THE Book"... :) and : according to that he is thru the Hannah Neal and that Asbury bunch.... I : told him to query the list..... He is Jacks cousin on the Lamb side... cool : huh.. wonder if he knows who he is talking to here.. tee hee hee bet : not... see ya' in 3 weeks... Ste. : : nothing else.

Chat away Gloria........ Cleo is here.... She is hiding behind her true identity ......... shhhhhhhh don't tell any one.... -----Original Message----- From: Gloria Marcum [mailto:rgmarcum@zoomnet.net] Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 2:52 AM To: RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [RAMEY-L] Dr. Rhamey Book Looking for someone that has access to Dr. Rhamey (Remy Genealogy). Also need to talk to Cleo? Gloria ==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the body type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else.

Looking for someone that has access to Dr. Rhamey (Remy Genealogy). Also need to talk to Cleo? Gloria

Hi again Jean - You were very helpful and I certainly meant no offense and I hope none was taken. As you well know, trying to figure some of this out can be worse than a 100000 piece puzzle with no corners on the pieces, and you are certainly right about the census and its accuracy. In tracing Joseph Robert Ramey's wifes family, it was real interesting to note that they only aged on an average of 7 years every 10 years. Its a neat trick and I wish I had their secret. Thanks for your input and help. Tom Ramey -----Original Message----- From: Jean Dalrymple <motherd@theriver.com> To: <RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, June 10, 2000 10:04 PM Subject: RE: [RAMEY-L] George William Ramey >Hey.... ALL I did was copy from a book.... These folks are not mine..... >just trying to be helpful..... > >Now for a clue or two here..... as there were many that I sent with that >post... every one is concentrating on PENSION records.... How about just >the plain old MILITARY records..... you have to apply for those >separately.. > >Now also don't forget that the information given on those census records >were only as good as the person giving them and many times it could and was >the neighbor or a child etc etc....... my 4th great grandfather was born >who knows where... he had about 17 kids and half said he was born in PA and >the other half said VA.... AND s people didn't KNOW where they were born, >could have been born in PA and thought that they were born in IN... that >happened also in my family... AND one more then I am off of here for the >night..... yawnnnnnnnnnn....... Even tombstones are often WRONG........ >again the info is only as good as the person giving the information....... >and often the child had no inkling when a parent was born they just >guessed...... > >So keep up the chatter.... Tis good for the soul........ >

------------------------------------------------------- RAMEY ancestry of Paul Maynard Ramey Jr rev: 04-06-00 afn48665@afn.org paulramey@dellnet.com 4524 NW 23RD AVE, APT F, Gainesville, FL 32606 ------------------------------------------------------- Some of this is not verified ; our best guess. Several relatives have made trips to VA and WV looking for info on my g-gf George Washington Ramey. We don't know who George's father was. His mother was Lucy Ramey. George was given her surname because she was unmarried when George was born. We think Lucy was from NC. Later Lucy married Isham Doss (before 1835). location unknown. Lucy had two children (James & Jane) by Isham. Census says James was born in NC in 1835. Later Lucy & Isham moved to VA. They are found in Wythe County,VA census of 1850. This census says: Isham Doss,age 55,laborer,born NC Lucy,age 49,born NC son James,age 15,born NC According to this: Lucy was born in 1801 and Isham in 1795. We think an Abraham Ramey b about 1788, don't know where, may have been father of George's mother Lucy. Abraham's wife was Ann Massey. We think they lived in NC. George Washington Ramey, my g-gf and wife Leahr Warf: We have conflicting data about George's birth: 1) From 186? to 1885 George and Leahr lived in Ripley, Jackson county,WV. 1870 and 1880 census records there say George was born in 1826 in VA. 2) From 1886 to death George and Leahr lived in Colo- rado. A state of CO soundex card says George was born in 1829 in VA. 3) George's death certificate from Brighton,Adams County,CO says he was born in June of 1831 in GA. 4) Cousin Griff thinks George was born in June of 1830, probably in NC. d 07/29/1902 Brighton,Adams County,CO (George) buried in a Ramey family plot in Fairmont Cemetary,Denver,CO wife Leahr Warf b 10/04/1830 Carroll County,VA d 02/05/1920 Brighton,Colorado m /1852 Wytheville,Carroll County,VA their wedding application was dated 10 July 1852. buried Fairmont Cemetary,Denver,CO Leahr's parents were John Warf and wife Patsy Harrell both born in VA. They were married in Carroll County,VA 14 August 1828 and they are found in the 1850 census there. They had a number of other children too. John Warf died 14 June 1887. John's father was Berryman Warf b in VA. Berryman's mother was Fanny Warf, unmarried We think George was in Confederate Army. We don't know where he lived when he enlisted or what unit he was in. Relatives found a G Ramey that might be him in Confed- erate archives. It lists him as a private in Co. F, 11th Battalion VA reserves 4th battalion VA reserves Wallace's Battalion VA reserves company F Giles reserves stationed at Giles Court House, April 16 - Aug 31, 1864 There is a National Archives Roll (M861-Roll #66) that has a little more. We think this G Ramey was our George because of the following. children of George and Leahr: ----------------------------- JOHANNA L RAMEY b 05/25/1853 Wytheville, Wythe County, VA d 05/24/1941 buried Fairmont Cemetary, Denver, CO m Jonathan Harpold son William Harpold was a fireman in Denver MARY F RAMEY b Jan 1855 Wytheville, Wythe County, VA m 02/12/1878 WV husband William A Gabbert b 1851 children Claudia A b 1879 Myrtle b Mar 1887, m James H Woodyard, son William C b 04/27/1908 LUCY W RAMEY b 1858 Wytheville, Wythe County, VA d 1948 Ripley, Jackson County, WV m 02/12/1884 to Charles F Straley children Mary Dove Straley b 10/02/1887 Ripley,WV d 1965 George E Straley b Dec 1884, m Madaline ? Paul Washington Straley b May 1886, m Eva Netheraitz Charles V Straley b Mar 1889 Ripley, WV MARTHA JANE RAMEY b 1859 Wytheville, Wythe County, VA d 08/29/1941 buried Fairmont Cemetary, Denver, CO VIRGINIA LEAH RAMEY b 1861 Wytheville, Wythe County, VA d 06/24/1947 m Frederick Ault no known children ELISHA CHAPMAN "CHAP" RAMEY b 1863 Wytheville, Wythe county, VA d 04/29/1941 Hudson, CO buried Fairmont Cemetary, Denver, CO children Lydia Dove b 01/04/1901 Leah SARAH RAMEY b 1864 Ripley, Jackson County, WV d 06/29/1949 Brighton,Adams County, CO buried Fairmont Cemetary, Denver, Co m George Bull children Nellie Cecil Bull b 11/04/1889, d 1937 Nellie Cecil m Ivan Barstow and had 3 children Virgil 10/21/1910 twin daughters Virginia Leah and Georgia Grace b 06/10/1917 THOMAS SHERMAN RAMEY b 02/20/1866 Ripley,Jackson County,WV d 12/05/1955 buried Fairmont Cemetary,Denver,Arapahoe County,CO WILLIAM ALEXANDER RAMEY, my gf b 06/29/1869 Ripley,Jackson County,WV d 07/17/1943 buried Riverside Cemetary,Sterling,Logan County,CO m Winifred Adella Holden b 03/14/1872 Schroon,Essex County,NY d 06/13/1953 Sterling,Logan County,CO m 06/08/1893 children of William and "Della" Victor Ernest Ramey b 12/05/1894 d 1986 wife Edith Raymond Eugene Ramey b 09/01/1896 d 1960 Boulder,CO (?) wife Mildred Kenyon m 02/30/1921 Loyd Friedel Ramey b 10/26/1899 near Iliff,Logan County,CO wife Ethel Colette b 06/27/1901 Sedan,Chataqua County,Kansas Laurance William Ramey b 10/07/1903 still living wife Sarah Francis Dersham b 07/08/1905 Fort Morgan,CO d 01/07/1978 Sterling,Logan County,CO m 06/08/1927 2nd wife Tillie L Paul Maynard Ramey, my f b 08/21/1910 Sterling,Logan County,CO d Dec 1981 Fort Worth,Tarrant County,TX wife Lou Ella Wright b 09/19/1913 Sterling,Logan County,CO d 1953 Boston,MA hospital 2nd wife Emily Baros b 05/25/1923 CHARLOTTE DOVE RAMEY b 1873 Ripley,Jackson County,WV buried Greeley,Weld County,CO m Fred Johnson 1895 Greeley,Weld County,CO children: Dorothy Jane Johnson b about 1899 Greeley,Weld County,CO Hazel Johnson b 08/03/1902 Helen Johnson b 06/12/1910 DORCAS MINERVA RAMEY and DORA ELIZABETH RAMEY (TWINS) b 02/14/1875 Ripley,Jackson County,WV Dorcas and Dora were first of George & Leahr's to graduate high school Logan County High School,Sterling,Logan County,CO Dorcas graduated from college in Greeley,Weld County,CO and taught Dorcas d 08/13/1964, buried Fairmont Cemetary,Denver Dora d 06/30/1963, buried Fairmont Cemetary,Denver Dora m George Magers children of Dora: Douglas b 04/15/1909 and Dorcas b 06/12/1910 Dorcas Ramey m Dave Schmidt children: Martha b 1933 and George David b 03/04/1940 GEORGE WASHINGTON RAMEY JR b 1876 Ripley,Jackson County,WV d 1878 Ripley he had a twin Lilly Susan d 04/06 1899 Arvada,CO Evidently George and Leahr moved to Ripley,WV sometime between the birth of Thomas and end of 1869 since they were in the 1870 Ripley census. And since my gf William Alexander Ramey was born Ripley,WV in May of 1869. The 1870 and 1880 censuses indicate George and Leahr had 15 children. Relatives have verified that they had 14. One daughter Lily Susan is listed by a different name in these censuses. Two of their children died young. So they had 12 children when they left WV. In 1885 they left Ripley,WV and went West with 11 of their children for the free land. Daughter Lucy stayed in Ripley. She married a Straley. About 1994 relatives went to Ripley,WV and met Gene Straley a grandson of George/Leahr's daughter Lucy. George & family stayed in Kearney,NE one year and in spring of 1886 went to Iliff,Colorado area for a few years. In 1890 they moved to Brighton,Adams County,CO for life. Except for one son, my gf William Alexander Ramey, who stayed behind and finally settled in Sterling, Logan County, Colorado. my grandparents William Alexander Ramey and wife Adella Winifred Holden. William was the only family member who stayed behind in Logan County,CO when rest of the family went to Brighton in 1890. b 06/29/1869 Ripley, Jackson County, WV d 07/17/1943 Sterling, Logan County, CO wife Adella Winifred Holden b 03/14/1872 Schroon, Essex County, NY d 06/13/1953 Sterling, Logan County, CO m 06/08/1893 Will and "Della" had 5 children,all sons,including my father Dr Paul Maynard Ramey. My father said Will was a very shrewd businessman; that he started out with nothing and at the time of his death his estate was estimated worth $ 250,000. That is in 1943 dollars. "Della" Holden was a direct descendant of an English man Richard Holden who came to New England and settled in Watertwon,MA near Boston in 1634. I am a tenth generation American in this line. Most American Holdens are descended from Richard or his brother Justinian who came to New England with him. my parents: Dr Paul Maynard Ramey, MD b 08/21/1910 Sterling, Logan County, Colorado d 1981 Fort Worth, Tarrant County, TX wife: Lou Ella Wright b 09/19/1913 Sterling, CO d 05/10/1953 Boston, MA hospital m 1935 Laramie, Wyoming ------------------------------------------------------ I am Paul Maynard Ramey Jr b 1935 Temple,TX now in Gainesville,FL I am also researching ancestors of surnames Bartlett,Campbell,Courtwright,Holden,Newton,Wright ------------------------------------------------------

Hey.... ALL I did was copy from a book.... These folks are not mine..... just trying to be helpful..... Now for a clue or two here..... as there were many that I sent with that post... every one is concentrating on PENSION records.... How about just the plain old MILITARY records..... you have to apply for those separately.. Now also don't forget that the information given on those census records were only as good as the person giving them and many times it could and was the neighbor or a child etc etc....... my 4th great grandfather was born who knows where... he had about 17 kids and half said he was born in PA and the other half said VA.... AND s people didn't KNOW where they were born, could have been born in PA and thought that they were born in IN... that happened also in my family... AND one more then I am off of here for the night..... yawnnnnnnnnnn....... Even tombstones are often WRONG........ again the info is only as good as the person giving the information....... and often the child had no inkling when a parent was born they just guessed...... So keep up the chatter.... Tis good for the soul........ -----Original Message----- From: Tom Ramey [mailto:tramey@txucom.net] Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2000 4:08 PM To: RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [RAMEY-L] George William Ramey Hi Jean - Thanks for all of your wonderful information regarding William Neale and George William. Most of it agrees with what I have, or it fills holes in the information I have, but there are some differences as well. Most of my info is based upon what was passed down through my family, through one family bible, through census records and cemetery records and county records here in Trinity. I am raising the following questions, not to disagree at all, but to try and reconcile what I have to your information or to find additional sources to support one of us. According to my great aunt, George William Ramey died in the home of my great grandfather , Joseph Robert Ramey here in Trinity, Trinity County, Texas on March 6, 1895. He was born in 1825 in Alabama according to various census listings. According to the 1850 census, he was in Chickasaw County Mississippi with his wife Jane and his third son John [Milton] Ramey. According to my family jane was Martha Jane Langston. There is nothing in my family to indicate that there was a marriage to Ms. Roberts. George remarried in Trinity County to Margaret Hooper abt 1861 (according to my family) and she raised the children. Upon her death in 1892, he remaired Helen Bueing. I am also concerned about not being able to find anything on any census about Garn. As in my original post, I find William Ramey (assumed to be William Francis, age and birth place correct per later census but maybe not if he went to war in 1847) living in a home of Albertus Bright with a Joseph Ramey in 1850 in Monroe County, Miss. Is this William Francis and if so is this Joseph the same as Garn? You indicate that William Neale, Sr. went to Texas with his brother Lawrence as part of Austins colony in 1827. I have a hard time with this as George William was born in 1825 in AL and William Francis was born in Georgia on 03/06/1830. This date is based upon his (William Francis) tombstone and various census listings and his confederate pension application. I have found several listings for Lawrence Ramey in Austin's colony but I have never found a reference for William Neale. There is a William Neale Ramey in Lavaca County for quite a few census listings and I have always assumed that this was William Neale Jr, George Williams brother. My father knew William Francis (Uncle Billie) and he did indeed have 2 fingers missing and served in the Mexican War according to daddy but he was just a teenager when he went to war. I will pursue the land grant mentioned for William Neal in 1884. George Williams children were: 1. Margaret Elizabeth Ramey - died at age of 5; 2. John Milton Ramey, b 11/11/1847 d 02/05/1914 Trinity, Texas, m Cora Elizabeth Harrington; m Mary A Murray 12/18/1872 3. Joseph Robert Ramey (my line) b. 1852 d 1927 Trinity, Texas m Missouri Filmore McWilliams 5/05/1881 4. William Virgil Ramey b 10/02/1855 d 05/30/1904 in Trinity, TX, m Eugenia Vaughn and m Eugina B Butler. 5. George Colombus Ramey b 6/27/1857 d 8/05/1918 in Trinity, TX. m Sarah I ? 10/1877 m. Rebecca Winniefred Taylor, 6. The 1880 census reflects Mary E. Oliver, to be an adopted child age 10. The 1870 and 1880 census show the wife to be Margaret b 1843 in Louisiana I have additional information on all of these families if anybody needs it, I will be happy to share. Several of the children you list as children of George William were actually children of Joseph Robert, most of which I knew in my younger days. They are as follows: 1. Willeana (Willie) Ann Ramey b 3/1882 d 8/10/1957 m Francis Milton Hill 8/18/1907; 2. Clydia (Clyde) Evelyn Ramey b 2/1884 d 1942 m Rensselaer Thomas Lealdis Lamb 3/5/1907. m W. D Denton. 3. Nellie Pauline Ramey b 1886 d 1956 m John W. Bland 4. Frances Naomi Ramey b 5/29/1889 d 12/25/1966 m John Green Noblitt 5. Samuel Crawford Ramey (my grandfather) b 3/25/1892 d 9/5/1941 m Dora Anna Mae Johns 6. Pearl Elizabeth Ramey b 3/10/1898 d 10/1981 m Henry Harris m Claude C Rawlings. I knew all of these except my grandfather Samuel Crawford Ramey who passed before I was born. Looks like more digging. Please continue this thread and maybe we can make some sense from it. Tom Ramey -----Original Message----- From: Jean Dalrymple <motherd@theriver.com> To: <RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, June 10, 2000 12:34 PM Subject: RE: [RAMEY-L] George William Ramey >Hi all.... "The" book says.... And there are a LOT of clues here to follow >up on that may give a lot more info.... Get out those forms boy and girls >and get them sent in......... > >George W. was the son of William Neal Remy. > >George W. Ramey b in Calhoun Co MS c 1820 went to TX c 1870. He m in MS Miss >Roberts. He was a soldier in the Mexican and Civil Wars and d in 1896. >His wife died in 1890 >Children 4 >1. Joseph R. m Helen and d in Trinity in 1927, children 5 >a. Willie m Bilton Hill >b. Clyde, a dau m Lamb >c. Naomi, m John G Noblett, lives Trinity >d. Nellie, m Bland >e. Samuel C. >2. John Milton was a civil War soldier from Trinity and d in Trinity in >1913, children 2 >a. Stella >b. Viola b B. H. Renner and lived in Riverside TX >3. William Virgil b Calhoun Co MS c 1860 m Eugenia Betinna Butler of Cold >Springs TX in Trinity. He d March 31 1904 and she d in 1899, children 6 >a. William Neale, b 3 May 1884, Wilda Mae Schoefield, 2 children >b. Edwin Edward, bc 1885 lived CO >c. Thomas Paul, lived Houston >d. Anna Blanche, m Tobleman and d Aug 1 1932 >e. Ollie Johnson b Oct 3 1892 in Trinity m April 20 1921 Emma B. Moody of >Hygiene Co, childrenn 1 >f. Jettie Ladusky a step child, doesn't say whose tho :( >4. George Columbus b June 27 1857 m 1st Belle McCarter m 2nd Rebecca W >Taylor >---------------------- >George W.'s siblings > >1. Willliam Francis, b 1815 went from near Aberdeenn, Monroe Co MS to >Gonzalus Gonzalus Co TX where at athe ageof 16 he was in 1831 a wagon boy in >the US Army and was with Gen Winfield Scott before Mexico City in Sep 1847, >he lost 2 fingers there. He also served in the Civil War. He married 8 >times and all his wives were buried in the Trinity TX Church yard. One of >his grand nephews said of him. "he was a quied law abiding whisky loving >atheist, but never drank to escess". Children 2 >a. Clarence (Big Clinch) was a locomotive engineer for the Trinity Lumber >Co. at Groveton, Trinity Co., TX. Unlike his father he was a religious man >b. Laura, m Phillip Bell and lived Ft Worth TX >2. George W. >3. GARN, a HALF BROTHER, remained in MS >4. William Neal, was a newspaper man and worked in the TX Land office in the >1920's at age of 99 (b c 1825) He received a land grand in 1884 in TX. >Recorded. >----------------------------------- >They were the children of..... Are you all still with me ... :) > >William Neal Remy, b 1785, Westmoreland Co., VA, went with his brother >Lawrence to TX as a member of the Stephen F. Austin Coloney, in 1827. He >first settled in Calhoun Co MS. He married twice.. Bio Inden of the U of >TX.. "Lawrence and William Neale Ramey were members of the Stephen F Austin >Colony which came to Tx in 1827., > >His siblings were >1. John Asbury, b c 1790 m in Westmoreland Co., VA Dec 24 1821, Mary >McGuire, Wm Sutton Security. KY Land Grants in Lawrence Co., KY "John >Asbury Ramey, 50 A dated June 13 1831. >2. Lawrence, went to TX in 1827, a member of the Stephen F Austin Colony. >3. Sarah A Reamy m in Westmoreland Co VA July 1 1839 Edward B Omohundra, >Stephen T. Rice, Security. >4. And of course William Neale is >---------- >their parents were (according to THE book.. ) > >Alexander Remy, b c 1748 in Westmoreland Co VA m 1at Elizabeth (Betty) >Sanford Connely of Scotch French decent about 1786. And m a 2nd time.... >Doesn't state to who.... >------------------------- >And of COURSE...... Alexander is the son of Asbury and Hannah Elizabeth >Neale Remy..... >------------ >the end. My fingers are tired.... Jeannie <>< pretty good, huh >Queenie? What say you Nefi? 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Hi Marsil: Thanks for your post. I do know of one Bettie Ramey confederate pension application from Texas. She was the wife of John Milton Ramey, George Williams son. Her application was number 33162. I have corresponded with her family on several occasions and her full name was Cora Elizabeth Harrington. I do not see another pension application on the index for a Bettie. I did stumble on a Martha J. Ramey application which shows husband Stephen Barton from Upshur County that I had not seen before and I have requested a copy today. With regards to when they came to Texas, my great aunt, who was the authority on all of this swears that it was 1859. I have been unable to locate them on any 1860 census at this time. I also have not located anything on his civil war history, which might pinpoint where he enlisted from. I do know that his brother William Francis enlisted in the spring of 1862 in Company I of the Texas 26th Calvery - B Debreys Regiment according to his pension application. In his application he indicates that he moved to Trinity, Trinity County, Texas in 1861. This would fit with the 1859 date, in which they came to neighboring Polk County. Since William Francis and George William supposedly came to Texas together, I think that my great aunt was right in her 1859 date. Thanks for your input and help. I hope you will look at the pension application you have and see if its the Bettie - John Milton Ramey's wife or if its another one. If it is indeed another one, I sure would appreciate your sending me the file number so that I can request it from the state. By the way, I get grumpy at lunch time as well. Thanks again. Tom Ramey -----Original Message----- From: Marsil Creech <MARCREECH@Prodigy.Net> To: <RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, June 10, 2000 1:20 PM Subject: Re: [RAMEY-L] George William Ramey >Hi Tom an other interested people, > Bettie's pension application is filed in Texas. I''ll try to dig it up >and send you a copy. > I will admit there is some confusion about all of this.In the pension >papers that George served with a Texas unit during the civil war. Now I >guess that doesn't necessarily mean he lived in Texas at the time. However, >it appeared to me that he did but info doesn't fit with his arrival in >Texas. > The state of Texas has their pension applications index on line. They >are easy to to find and they only charged me $2.00 for the entire file. > Maybe reading this with a different view point might help. I was looking >for my old George W. Reamy. > I seem to be jumping around here but the pension application was under >Widow's applications. > >More later-seems as if I know an Old Grumpy that wants lunch. You know that >Old Grumpy's can't fix their own lunches. > >Marsil >----- Original Message ----- >From: Tom Ramey <tramey@txucom.net> >To: <RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2000 2:48 PM >Subject: [RAMEY-L] George William Ramey > > >> Hello Marsil and others: >> I am new to the Roots list and I apologize if I'm duplicating info >everyone has. I've searched the archives and haven't seen this info so I'm >following up on Jo Ed's post and Marsil's reply. I am the great great >grandson of George William Ramey and a double cousin of Joe Ed Lamb. I did >not receive Marsil's prior correspondence or I would have been happy to >reply. I have pretty good info on George W. and his family from the time >they got to Texas in abt 1859 to 1865. They basically settled in Trinity, >Trinity County, Texas after a very brief stop in Coweta, Polk County, Texas. >I read with much interest your reply to Jo Ed in that according to my family >information, George W. was married to a Martha Jane Langston in Mississippi. >This is per my great aunt Pearl Ramey Rawlings before she died. I have seen >several notations on WFT and the interenet that he was married to a ? >Roberts instead. He is recorded on the 1850 census in Chickasaw County >Mississippi as George Ramey ! >> ! >> age 25, born in Alabama, with wife Jane Ramey, age 22 or 23, born in >Alabama, and son John. I of course now wonder if Bettie Roberts had a Jane >in her name or if George W. had two wives in Missippi. He remarried in >Trinity County twice. >> I descend from his son Joseph Robert Ramey, through his son, Samuel >Crawford, through my father, Joe Sam. >> I would appreciate your sharing with me the state that Betties Pension >application is from (I assume Mississippi) so that I can obtain a copy of >it. Does it indicate what happened to the marriage or if her name included >Jane? >> While I'm posting, I have one other question: the 1850 census lists George >W.'s brother William Francis in in Monroe County in the household of a >Bright and with another Ramey, "Joseph". According to family stories, there >was a brother that stayed in Mississippi, but he is identified only as Sam. >According to WFT posting there was a brother Garn. Does anyone know if >Joseph who is also on the 1860 census in Monroe is indeed a brother or not >and if he is Garn or Sam? >> Thanks for reading and of course, I'll be glad to share any info I have. >Tom Ramey >> >> >> >> ==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== >> To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to >RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the body >type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else. >> > > >==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== >To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the body type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else. > >

Hi Jean - Thanks for all of your wonderful information regarding William Neale and George William. Most of it agrees with what I have, or it fills holes in the information I have, but there are some differences as well. Most of my info is based upon what was passed down through my family, through one family bible, through census records and cemetery records and county records here in Trinity. I am raising the following questions, not to disagree at all, but to try and reconcile what I have to your information or to find additional sources to support one of us. According to my great aunt, George William Ramey died in the home of my great grandfather , Joseph Robert Ramey here in Trinity, Trinity County, Texas on March 6, 1895. He was born in 1825 in Alabama according to various census listings. According to the 1850 census, he was in Chickasaw County Mississippi with his wife Jane and his third son John [Milton] Ramey. According to my family jane was Martha Jane Langston. There is nothing in my family to indicate that there was a marriage to Ms. Roberts. George remarried in Trinity County to Margaret Hooper abt 1861 (according to my family) and she raised the children. Upon her death in 1892, he remaired Helen Bueing. I am also concerned about not being able to find anything on any census about Garn. As in my original post, I find William Ramey (assumed to be William Francis, age and birth place correct per later census but maybe not if he went to war in 1847) living in a home of Albertus Bright with a Joseph Ramey in 1850 in Monroe County, Miss. Is this William Francis and if so is this Joseph the same as Garn? You indicate that William Neale, Sr. went to Texas with his brother Lawrence as part of Austins colony in 1827. I have a hard time with this as George William was born in 1825 in AL and William Francis was born in Georgia on 03/06/1830. This date is based upon his (William Francis) tombstone and various census listings and his confederate pension application. I have found several listings for Lawrence Ramey in Austin's colony but I have never found a reference for William Neale. There is a William Neale Ramey in Lavaca County for quite a few census listings and I have always assumed that this was William Neale Jr, George Williams brother. My father knew William Francis (Uncle Billie) and he did indeed have 2 fingers missing and served in the Mexican War according to daddy but he was just a teenager when he went to war. I will pursue the land grant mentioned for William Neal in 1884. George Williams children were: 1. Margaret Elizabeth Ramey - died at age of 5; 2. John Milton Ramey, b 11/11/1847 d 02/05/1914 Trinity, Texas, m Cora Elizabeth Harrington; m Mary A Murray 12/18/1872 3. Joseph Robert Ramey (my line) b. 1852 d 1927 Trinity, Texas m Missouri Filmore McWilliams 5/05/1881 4. William Virgil Ramey b 10/02/1855 d 05/30/1904 in Trinity, TX, m Eugenia Vaughn and m Eugina B Butler. 5. George Colombus Ramey b 6/27/1857 d 8/05/1918 in Trinity, TX. m Sarah I ? 10/1877 m. Rebecca Winniefred Taylor, 6. The 1880 census reflects Mary E. Oliver, to be an adopted child age 10. The 1870 and 1880 census show the wife to be Margaret b 1843 in Louisiana I have additional information on all of these families if anybody needs it, I will be happy to share. Several of the children you list as children of George William were actually children of Joseph Robert, most of which I knew in my younger days. They are as follows: 1. Willeana (Willie) Ann Ramey b 3/1882 d 8/10/1957 m Francis Milton Hill 8/18/1907; 2. Clydia (Clyde) Evelyn Ramey b 2/1884 d 1942 m Rensselaer Thomas Lealdis Lamb 3/5/1907. m W. D Denton. 3. Nellie Pauline Ramey b 1886 d 1956 m John W. Bland 4. Frances Naomi Ramey b 5/29/1889 d 12/25/1966 m John Green Noblitt 5. Samuel Crawford Ramey (my grandfather) b 3/25/1892 d 9/5/1941 m Dora Anna Mae Johns 6. Pearl Elizabeth Ramey b 3/10/1898 d 10/1981 m Henry Harris m Claude C Rawlings. I knew all of these except my grandfather Samuel Crawford Ramey who passed before I was born. Looks like more digging. Please continue this thread and maybe we can make some sense from it. Tom Ramey -----Original Message----- From: Jean Dalrymple <motherd@theriver.com> To: <RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, June 10, 2000 12:34 PM Subject: RE: [RAMEY-L] George William Ramey >Hi all.... "The" book says.... And there are a LOT of clues here to follow >up on that may give a lot more info.... Get out those forms boy and girls >and get them sent in......... > >George W. was the son of William Neal Remy. > >George W. Ramey b in Calhoun Co MS c 1820 went to TX c 1870. He m in MS Miss >Roberts. He was a soldier in the Mexican and Civil Wars and d in 1896. >His wife died in 1890 >Children 4 >1. Joseph R. m Helen and d in Trinity in 1927, children 5 >a. Willie m Bilton Hill >b. Clyde, a dau m Lamb >c. Naomi, m John G Noblett, lives Trinity >d. Nellie, m Bland >e. Samuel C. >2. John Milton was a civil War soldier from Trinity and d in Trinity in >1913, children 2 >a. Stella >b. Viola b B. H. Renner and lived in Riverside TX >3. William Virgil b Calhoun Co MS c 1860 m Eugenia Betinna Butler of Cold >Springs TX in Trinity. He d March 31 1904 and she d in 1899, children 6 >a. William Neale, b 3 May 1884, Wilda Mae Schoefield, 2 children >b. Edwin Edward, bc 1885 lived CO >c. Thomas Paul, lived Houston >d. Anna Blanche, m Tobleman and d Aug 1 1932 >e. Ollie Johnson b Oct 3 1892 in Trinity m April 20 1921 Emma B. Moody of >Hygiene Co, childrenn 1 >f. Jettie Ladusky a step child, doesn't say whose tho :( >4. George Columbus b June 27 1857 m 1st Belle McCarter m 2nd Rebecca W >Taylor >---------------------- >George W.'s siblings > >1. Willliam Francis, b 1815 went from near Aberdeenn, Monroe Co MS to >Gonzalus Gonzalus Co TX where at athe ageof 16 he was in 1831 a wagon boy in >the US Army and was with Gen Winfield Scott before Mexico City in Sep 1847, >he lost 2 fingers there. He also served in the Civil War. He married 8 >times and all his wives were buried in the Trinity TX Church yard. One of >his grand nephews said of him. "he was a quied law abiding whisky loving >atheist, but never drank to escess". Children 2 >a. Clarence (Big Clinch) was a locomotive engineer for the Trinity Lumber >Co. at Groveton, Trinity Co., TX. Unlike his father he was a religious man >b. Laura, m Phillip Bell and lived Ft Worth TX >2. George W. >3. GARN, a HALF BROTHER, remained in MS >4. William Neal, was a newspaper man and worked in the TX Land office in the >1920's at age of 99 (b c 1825) He received a land grand in 1884 in TX. >Recorded. >----------------------------------- >They were the children of..... Are you all still with me ... :) > >William Neal Remy, b 1785, Westmoreland Co., VA, went with his brother >Lawrence to TX as a member of the Stephen F. Austin Coloney, in 1827. He >first settled in Calhoun Co MS. He married twice.. Bio Inden of the U of >TX.. "Lawrence and William Neale Ramey were members of the Stephen F Austin >Colony which came to Tx in 1827., > >His siblings were >1. John Asbury, b c 1790 m in Westmoreland Co., VA Dec 24 1821, Mary >McGuire, Wm Sutton Security. KY Land Grants in Lawrence Co., KY "John >Asbury Ramey, 50 A dated June 13 1831. >2. Lawrence, went to TX in 1827, a member of the Stephen F Austin Colony. >3. Sarah A Reamy m in Westmoreland Co VA July 1 1839 Edward B Omohundra, >Stephen T. Rice, Security. >4. And of course William Neale is >---------- >their parents were (according to THE book.. ) > >Alexander Remy, b c 1748 in Westmoreland Co VA m 1at Elizabeth (Betty) >Sanford Connely of Scotch French decent about 1786. And m a 2nd time.... >Doesn't state to who.... >------------------------- >And of COURSE...... Alexander is the son of Asbury and Hannah Elizabeth >Neale Remy..... >------------ >the end. My fingers are tired.... Jeannie <>< pretty good, huh >Queenie? What say you Nefi? Am I a Ste or what..... :) ;)

Well Tom, One thing I have learned with genealogy-all things are possible. At this point I feel that the pension application did state she was the wife of George W. but then again I haven't dug it up yet either. This is of course of no value, my sister lives very near Trinity. She goes over there to look for antiques often. She stopped in the Ramey Antique store. They discussed genealogy for a bit-the Rameys at the store said their Rameys came from SC. Just another rod in the fire- Peope do get their memories confused with other stuff sometimes. I know I do,. I'll start digging. My gracious, you ask a lot of a poor old gal. Cleo Queen of DE NIAL ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Ramey <tramey@txucom.net> To: <RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2000 11:11 PM Subject: [RAMEY-L] George William Ramey > Hi Marsil: > Thanks for your post. I do know of one Bettie Ramey confederate pension > application from Texas. She was the wife of John Milton Ramey, George > Williams son. Her application was number 33162. I have corresponded with > her family on several occasions and her full name was Cora Elizabeth > Harrington. I do not see another pension application on the index for a > Bettie. I did stumble on a Martha J. Ramey application which shows husband > Stephen Barton from Upshur County that I had not seen before and I have > requested a copy today. > With regards to when they came to Texas, my great aunt, who was the > authority on all of this swears that it was 1859. I have been unable to > locate them on any 1860 census at this time. I also have not located > anything on his civil war history, which might pinpoint where he enlisted > from. I do know that his brother William Francis enlisted in the spring of > 1862 in Company I of the Texas 26th Calvery - B Debreys Regiment according > to his pension application. In his application he indicates that he moved > to Trinity, Trinity County, Texas in 1861. This would fit with the 1859 > date, in which they came to neighboring Polk County. > Since William Francis and George William supposedly came to Texas together, > I think that my great aunt was right in her 1859 date. > Thanks for your input and help. I hope you will look at the pension > application you have and see if its the Bettie - John Milton Ramey's wife or > if its another one. If it is indeed another one, I sure would appreciate > your sending me the file number so that I can request it from the state. > By the way, I get grumpy at lunch time as well. Thanks again. Tom Ramey > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marsil Creech <MARCREECH@Prodigy.Net> > To: <RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Saturday, June 10, 2000 1:20 PM > Subject: Re: [RAMEY-L] George William Ramey > > > >Hi Tom an other interested people, > > Bettie's pension application is filed in Texas. I''ll try to dig it up > >and send you a copy. > > I will admit there is some confusion about all of this.In the pension > >papers that George served with a Texas unit during the civil war. Now I > >guess that doesn't necessarily mean he lived in Texas at the time. However, > >it appeared to me that he did but info doesn't fit with his arrival in > >Texas. > > The state of Texas has their pension applications index on line. They > >are easy to to find and they only charged me $2.00 for the entire file. > > Maybe reading this with a different view point might help. I was > looking > >for my old George W. Reamy. > > I seem to be jumping around here but the pension application was under > >Widow's applications. > > > >More later-seems as if I know an Old Grumpy that wants lunch. You know that > >Old Grumpy's can't fix their own lunches. > > > >Marsil > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Tom Ramey <tramey@txucom.net> > >To: <RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2000 2:48 PM > >Subject: [RAMEY-L] George William Ramey > > > > > >> Hello Marsil and others: > >> I am new to the Roots list and I apologize if I'm duplicating info > >everyone has. I've searched the archives and haven't seen this info so I'm > >following up on Jo Ed's post and Marsil's reply. I am the great great > >grandson of George William Ramey and a double cousin of Joe Ed Lamb. I did > >not receive Marsil's prior correspondence or I would have been happy to > >reply. I have pretty good info on George W. and his family from the time > >they got to Texas in abt 1859 to 1865. They basically settled in Trinity, > >Trinity County, Texas after a very brief stop in Coweta, Polk County, > Texas. > >I read with much interest your reply to Jo Ed in that according to my > family > >information, George W. was married to a Martha Jane Langston in > Mississippi. > >This is per my great aunt Pearl Ramey Rawlings before she died. I have > seen > >several notations on WFT and the interenet that he was married to a ? > >Roberts instead. He is recorded on the 1850 census in Chickasaw County > >Mississippi as George Ramey ! > >> ! > >> age 25, born in Alabama, with wife Jane Ramey, age 22 or 23, born in > >Alabama, and son John. I of course now wonder if Bettie Roberts had a Jane > >in her name or if George W. had two wives in Missippi. He remarried in > >Trinity County twice. > >> I descend from his son Joseph Robert Ramey, through his son, Samuel > >Crawford, through my father, Joe Sam. > >> I would appreciate your sharing with me the state that Betties Pension > >application is from (I assume Mississippi) so that I can obtain a copy of > >it. Does it indicate what happened to the marriage or if her name included > >Jane? > >> While I'm posting, I have one other question: the 1850 census lists > George > >W.'s brother William Francis in in Monroe County in the household of a > >Bright and with another Ramey, "Joseph". According to family stories, > there > >was a brother that stayed in Mississippi, but he is identified only as Sam. > >According to WFT posting there was a brother Garn. Does anyone know if > >Joseph who is also on the 1860 census in Monroe is indeed a brother or not > >and if he is Garn or Sam? > >> Thanks for reading and of course, I'll be glad to share any info I have. > >Tom Ramey > >> > >> > >> > >> ==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== > >> To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to > >RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the > body > >type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else. > >> > > > > > >==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== > >To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to > RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the body > type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else. > > > > > > > > ==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the body type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else. >

That may well be what the "Book" Says Ste Mom. However, the Stephen F. Austin Colony only lists Lawrence Ramey as a member. Texas Peerage by Best does not give him as a member of the colony either. I believe this was all submissions on this George W. Ramey-I believe by Ms. Renner. Therefore, we have to take it as oral history only from some points. The date of death for Betty Roberts is incorrect also according to Dr. Rhamy. These are the children I show for George: Child 1: Joseph R. Ramey #3296 Child 2: John Milton Ramey #3297 Child 3: William Virgil Ramey #3298 ca 1860 Child 4: George Columbus Ramey #3299 June 27, 1857 If they moved to Texas in 1870 -these kids would have been born in MS perhaps with the exception of Joseph R.. I show Joseph R. married to an unknown Helen. He died in 1927. These are the children I show: ¦ Child 1: Willie Ramey #3301 ¦ Child 2: Clyde Ramey #3302 ¦ Child 3: Naomi Ramey #3303 ¦ Child 4: Nellie Ramey #3304 ¦ Child 5: Samuel C. Ramey #3305 ¦ _____________________________________________________ JOhn Milton wife unknown; these are the children I show +----------------------------------------------------------------- ¦ Child 1: Stella Ramey #3311 ¦ Child 2: Viola Ramey #3312 _________________________________________________ William Virgil: ¦ Name: William Virgil Ramey #3298 Sex: M ¦ Born: ca 1860 in Calhoun Co Mississippi ¦ in ¦ Died: Mar 31, 1904 in Trinity, Texas ¦ Buried: in ¦ in ¦ Ref: +--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- ¦ Father: George W. Ramey #3288 ¦ Mother: Betty Roberts #3295 ¦ Spouse: Eugenia Betinna Butler #3314 ¦ Married: in Trinity, Tx ¦ in ¦Marr. Ceremony? Y/N: Y Divorced/Annulled/Separated: End Year: +--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- ¦ Child 1: William Neale Ramey #3315 May 3, 1884 ¦ Child 2: Edwin Edward Ramey #3316 ca 1885 ¦ Child 3: Thomas Paul Ramey #3317 ¦ Child 4: Anna Blanche Ramey #3318 ¦ Child 5: Ollie Johnson Ramey #3319 Oct 3, 1892 ¦ Child 6: Jettie Ladusky #3320 _________________________________________________ George Columbus +-M-------------------------------- Modify ------------------------------------ ¦ Name: George Columbus Ramey #3299 Sex: M ¦ Born: June 27, 1857 in Calhoun Co Miss ¦ in ¦ Died: Aug 5, 1918 in Trinity,Trinity Co Tx ¦ Buried: in ¦ in ¦ Ref: Remy Book +--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- ¦ Father: George W. Ramey #3288 ¦ Mother: Betty Roberts #3295 ¦ Spouse: Bell McCarter #3925 # 1 of 2 Wives ¦ Married: Oct 1877 in Loveland, Houston Co Tx. ¦ in ¦Marr. Ceremony? Y/N: Y Divorced/Annulled/Separated: End Year: +--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- ¦ Child 1: Howard Earnest Ramey #3926 Nov 2, 1878 ¦ Child 2: George Hullet Ramey #3927 Mar 1, 1880 ¦ Child 3: Joseph R. Ramey #3928 Feb 14, 1882 ¦ Child 4: May Isabell Ramey #3929 Dec 31, 1883 ----- Original Message ----- From: Jean Dalrymple <motherd@theriver.com> To: <RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2000 5:28 PM Subject: RE: [RAMEY-L] George William Ramey > Hi all.... "The" book says.... And there are a LOT of clues here to follow > up on that may give a lot more info.... Get out those forms boy and girls > and get them sent in......... 2nd wife for George Spouse: Rebecca Winnie Taylor Married: Mar 1885 in Trinity, Tx States four children by first wife: If there were others from the 2nd marriage I did not copy them. ____________________________________________________ Another thing-Lawrence Ramey can be found in the Matamoris (?) 1850 census listed as a boarder in boarding house. He states b. NY. Of course we all know that just has to be correct-never saw an incorrect census record. Have you ? Now that hoot > > George W. was the son of William Neal Remy. > > George W. Ramey b in Calhoun Co MS c 1820 went to TX c 1870. He m in MS Miss > Roberts. He was a soldier in the Mexican and Civil Wars and d in 1896. > His wife died in 1890 > Children 4 > 1. Joseph R. m Helen and d in Trinity in 1927, children 5 > a. Willie m Bilton Hill > b. Clyde, a dau m Lamb > c. Naomi, m John G Noblett, lives Trinity > d. Nellie, m Bland > e. Samuel C. > 2. John Milton was a civil War soldier from Trinity and d in Trinity in > 1913, children 2 > a. Stella > b. Viola b B. H. Renner and lived in Riverside TX > 3. William Virgil b Calhoun Co MS c 1860 m Eugenia Betinna Butler of Cold > Springs TX in Trinity. He d March 31 1904 and she d in 1899, children 6 > a. William Neale, b 3 May 1884, Wilda Mae Schoefield, 2 children > b. Edwin Edward, bc 1885 lived CO > c. Thomas Paul, lived Houston > d. Anna Blanche, m Tobleman and d Aug 1 1932 > e. Ollie Johnson b Oct 3 1892 in Trinity m April 20 1921 Emma B. Moody of > Hygiene Co, childrenn 1 > f. Jettie Ladusky a step child, doesn't say whose tho :( > 4. George Columbus b June 27 1857 m 1st Belle McCarter m 2nd Rebecca W > Taylor > ---------------------- > George W.'s siblings > > 1. Willliam Francis, b 1815 went from near Aberdeenn, Monroe Co MS to > Gonzalus Gonzalus Co TX where at athe ageof 16 he was in 1831 a wagon boy in > the US Army and was with Gen Winfield Scott before Mexico City in Sep 1847, > he lost 2 fingers there. He also served in the Civil War. He married 8 > times and all his wives were buried in the Trinity TX Church yard. One of > his grand nephews said of him. "he was a quied law abiding whisky loving > atheist, but never drank to escess". Children 2 > a. Clarence (Big Clinch) was a locomotive engineer for the Trinity Lumber > Co. at Groveton, Trinity Co., TX. Unlike his father he was a religious man > b. Laura, m Phillip Bell and lived Ft Worth TX > 2. George W. > 3. GARN, a HALF BROTHER, remained in MS > 4. William Neal, was a newspaper man and worked in the TX Land office in the > 1920's at age of 99 (b c 1825) He received a land grand in 1884 in TX. > Recorded. > ----------------------------------- > They were the children of..... Are you all still with me ... :) > > William Neal Remy, b 1785, Westmoreland Co., VA, went with his brother > Lawrence to TX as a member of the Stephen F. Austin Coloney, in 1827. He > first settled in Calhoun Co MS. He married twice.. Bio Inden of the U of > TX.. "Lawrence and William Neale Ramey were members of the Stephen F Austin > Colony which came to Tx in 1827., > > His siblings were > 1. John Asbury, b c 1790 m in Westmoreland Co., VA Dec 24 1821, Mary > McGuire, Wm Sutton Security. KY Land Grants in Lawrence Co., KY "John > Asbury Ramey, 50 A dated June 13 1831. > 2. Lawrence, went to TX in 1827, a member of the Stephen F Austin Colony. > 3. Sarah A Reamy m in Westmoreland Co VA July 1 1839 Edward B Omohundra, > Stephen T. Rice, Security. > 4. And of course William Neale is > ---------- > their parents were (according to THE book.. ) > > Alexander Remy, b c 1748 in Westmoreland Co VA m 1at Elizabeth (Betty) > Sanford Connely of Scotch French decent about 1786. And m a 2nd time.... > Doesn't state to who.... > ------------------------- > And of COURSE...... Alexander is the son of Asbury and Hannah Elizabeth > Neale Remy..... > ------------ > the end. My fingers are tired.... Jeannie <>< pretty good, huh > Queenie? What say you Nefi? Am I a Ste or what..... :) ;) > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Ramey [mailto:tramey@txucom.net] > Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2000 7:49 AM > To: RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [RAMEY-L] George William Ramey > > Hello Marsil and others: > I am new to the Roots list and I apologize if I'm duplicating info everyone > has. I've searched the archives and haven't seen this info so I'm following > up on Jo Ed's post and Marsil's reply. I am the great great grandson of > George William Ramey and a double cousin of Joe Ed Lamb. I did not receive > Marsil's prior correspondence or I would have been happy to reply. I have > pretty good info on George W. and his family from the time they got to Texas > in abt 1859 to 1865. They basically settled in Trinity, Trinity County, > Texas after a very brief stop in Coweta, Polk County, Texas. I read with > much interest your reply to Jo Ed in that according to my family > information, George W. was married to a Martha Jane Langston in Mississippi. > This is per my great aunt Pearl Ramey Rawlings before she died. I have seen > several notations on WFT and the interenet that he was married to a ? > Roberts instead. He is recorded on the 1850 census in Chickasaw County > Mississippi as George Ramey ! > age 25, born in Alabama, with wife Jane Ramey, age 22 or 23, born in > Alabama, and son John. I of course now wonder if Bettie Roberts had a Jane > in her name or if George W. had two wives in Missippi. He remarried in > Trinity County twice. > I descend from his son Joseph Robert Ramey, through his son, Samuel > Crawford, through my father, Joe Sam. > I would appreciate your sharing with me the state that Betties Pension > application is from (I assume Mississippi) so that I can obtain a copy of > it. Does it indicate what happened to the marriage or if her name included > Jane? > While I'm posting, I have one other question: the 1850 census lists George > W.'s brother William Francis in in Monroe County in the household of a > Bright and with another Ramey, "Joseph". According to family stories, there > was a brother that stayed in Mississippi, but he is identified only as Sam. > According to WFT posting there was a brother Garn. Does anyone know if > Joseph who is also on the 1860 census in Monroe is indeed a brother or not > and if he is Garn or Sam? > Thanks for reading and of course, I'll be glad to share any info I have. > Tom Ramey > > > > ==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to > RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the body > type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else. > > > > ==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the body type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else. >

Hi Tom an other interested people, Bettie's pension application is filed in Texas. I''ll try to dig it up and send you a copy. I will admit there is some confusion about all of this.In the pension papers that George served with a Texas unit during the civil war. Now I guess that doesn't necessarily mean he lived in Texas at the time. However, it appeared to me that he did but info doesn't fit with his arrival in Texas. The state of Texas has their pension applications index on line. They are easy to to find and they only charged me $2.00 for the entire file. Maybe reading this with a different view point might help. I was looking for my old George W. Reamy. I seem to be jumping around here but the pension application was under Widow's applications. More later-seems as if I know an Old Grumpy that wants lunch. You know that Old Grumpy's can't fix their own lunches. Marsil ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Ramey <tramey@txucom.net> To: <RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2000 2:48 PM Subject: [RAMEY-L] George William Ramey > Hello Marsil and others: > I am new to the Roots list and I apologize if I'm duplicating info everyone has. I've searched the archives and haven't seen this info so I'm following up on Jo Ed's post and Marsil's reply. I am the great great grandson of George William Ramey and a double cousin of Joe Ed Lamb. I did not receive Marsil's prior correspondence or I would have been happy to reply. I have pretty good info on George W. and his family from the time they got to Texas in abt 1859 to 1865. They basically settled in Trinity, Trinity County, Texas after a very brief stop in Coweta, Polk County, Texas. I read with much interest your reply to Jo Ed in that according to my family information, George W. was married to a Martha Jane Langston in Mississippi. This is per my great aunt Pearl Ramey Rawlings before she died. I have seen several notations on WFT and the interenet that he was married to a ? Roberts instead. He is recorded on the 1850 census in Chickasaw County Mississippi as George Ramey ! > ! > age 25, born in Alabama, with wife Jane Ramey, age 22 or 23, born in Alabama, and son John. I of course now wonder if Bettie Roberts had a Jane in her name or if George W. had two wives in Missippi. He remarried in Trinity County twice. > I descend from his son Joseph Robert Ramey, through his son, Samuel Crawford, through my father, Joe Sam. > I would appreciate your sharing with me the state that Betties Pension application is from (I assume Mississippi) so that I can obtain a copy of it. Does it indicate what happened to the marriage or if her name included Jane? > While I'm posting, I have one other question: the 1850 census lists George W.'s brother William Francis in in Monroe County in the household of a Bright and with another Ramey, "Joseph". According to family stories, there was a brother that stayed in Mississippi, but he is identified only as Sam. According to WFT posting there was a brother Garn. Does anyone know if Joseph who is also on the 1860 census in Monroe is indeed a brother or not and if he is Garn or Sam? > Thanks for reading and of course, I'll be glad to share any info I have. Tom Ramey > > > > ==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the body type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else. >

Hi all.... "The" book says.... And there are a LOT of clues here to follow up on that may give a lot more info.... Get out those forms boy and girls and get them sent in......... George W. was the son of William Neal Remy. George W. Ramey b in Calhoun Co MS c 1820 went to TX c 1870. He m in MS Miss Roberts. He was a soldier in the Mexican and Civil Wars and d in 1896. His wife died in 1890 Children 4 1. Joseph R. m Helen and d in Trinity in 1927, children 5 a. Willie m Bilton Hill b. Clyde, a dau m Lamb c. Naomi, m John G Noblett, lives Trinity d. Nellie, m Bland e. Samuel C. 2. John Milton was a civil War soldier from Trinity and d in Trinity in 1913, children 2 a. Stella b. Viola b B. H. Renner and lived in Riverside TX 3. William Virgil b Calhoun Co MS c 1860 m Eugenia Betinna Butler of Cold Springs TX in Trinity. He d March 31 1904 and she d in 1899, children 6 a. William Neale, b 3 May 1884, Wilda Mae Schoefield, 2 children b. Edwin Edward, bc 1885 lived CO c. Thomas Paul, lived Houston d. Anna Blanche, m Tobleman and d Aug 1 1932 e. Ollie Johnson b Oct 3 1892 in Trinity m April 20 1921 Emma B. Moody of Hygiene Co, childrenn 1 f. Jettie Ladusky a step child, doesn't say whose tho :( 4. George Columbus b June 27 1857 m 1st Belle McCarter m 2nd Rebecca W Taylor ---------------------- George W.'s siblings 1. Willliam Francis, b 1815 went from near Aberdeenn, Monroe Co MS to Gonzalus Gonzalus Co TX where at athe ageof 16 he was in 1831 a wagon boy in the US Army and was with Gen Winfield Scott before Mexico City in Sep 1847, he lost 2 fingers there. He also served in the Civil War. He married 8 times and all his wives were buried in the Trinity TX Church yard. One of his grand nephews said of him. "he was a quied law abiding whisky loving atheist, but never drank to escess". Children 2 a. Clarence (Big Clinch) was a locomotive engineer for the Trinity Lumber Co. at Groveton, Trinity Co., TX. Unlike his father he was a religious man b. Laura, m Phillip Bell and lived Ft Worth TX 2. George W. 3. GARN, a HALF BROTHER, remained in MS 4. William Neal, was a newspaper man and worked in the TX Land office in the 1920's at age of 99 (b c 1825) He received a land grand in 1884 in TX. Recorded. ----------------------------------- They were the children of..... Are you all still with me ... :) William Neal Remy, b 1785, Westmoreland Co., VA, went with his brother Lawrence to TX as a member of the Stephen F. Austin Coloney, in 1827. He first settled in Calhoun Co MS. He married twice.. Bio Inden of the U of TX.. "Lawrence and William Neale Ramey were members of the Stephen F Austin Colony which came to Tx in 1827., His siblings were 1. John Asbury, b c 1790 m in Westmoreland Co., VA Dec 24 1821, Mary McGuire, Wm Sutton Security. KY Land Grants in Lawrence Co., KY "John Asbury Ramey, 50 A dated June 13 1831. 2. Lawrence, went to TX in 1827, a member of the Stephen F Austin Colony. 3. Sarah A Reamy m in Westmoreland Co VA July 1 1839 Edward B Omohundra, Stephen T. Rice, Security. 4. And of course William Neale is ---------- their parents were (according to THE book.. ) Alexander Remy, b c 1748 in Westmoreland Co VA m 1at Elizabeth (Betty) Sanford Connely of Scotch French decent about 1786. And m a 2nd time.... Doesn't state to who.... ------------------------- And of COURSE...... Alexander is the son of Asbury and Hannah Elizabeth Neale Remy..... ------------ the end. My fingers are tired.... Jeannie <>< pretty good, huh Queenie? What say you Nefi? Am I a Ste or what..... :) ;) -----Original Message----- From: Tom Ramey [mailto:tramey@txucom.net] Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2000 7:49 AM To: RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [RAMEY-L] George William Ramey Hello Marsil and others: I am new to the Roots list and I apologize if I'm duplicating info everyone has. I've searched the archives and haven't seen this info so I'm following up on Jo Ed's post and Marsil's reply. I am the great great grandson of George William Ramey and a double cousin of Joe Ed Lamb. I did not receive Marsil's prior correspondence or I would have been happy to reply. I have pretty good info on George W. and his family from the time they got to Texas in abt 1859 to 1865. They basically settled in Trinity, Trinity County, Texas after a very brief stop in Coweta, Polk County, Texas. I read with much interest your reply to Jo Ed in that according to my family information, George W. was married to a Martha Jane Langston in Mississippi. This is per my great aunt Pearl Ramey Rawlings before she died. I have seen several notations on WFT and the interenet that he was married to a ? Roberts instead. He is recorded on the 1850 census in Chickasaw County Mississippi as George Ramey ! age 25, born in Alabama, with wife Jane Ramey, age 22 or 23, born in Alabama, and son John. I of course now wonder if Bettie Roberts had a Jane in her name or if George W. had two wives in Missippi. He remarried in Trinity County twice. I descend from his son Joseph Robert Ramey, through his son, Samuel Crawford, through my father, Joe Sam. I would appreciate your sharing with me the state that Betties Pension application is from (I assume Mississippi) so that I can obtain a copy of it. Does it indicate what happened to the marriage or if her name included Jane? While I'm posting, I have one other question: the 1850 census lists George W.'s brother William Francis in in Monroe County in the household of a Bright and with another Ramey, "Joseph". According to family stories, there was a brother that stayed in Mississippi, but he is identified only as Sam. According to WFT posting there was a brother Garn. Does anyone know if Joseph who is also on the 1860 census in Monroe is indeed a brother or not and if he is Garn or Sam? Thanks for reading and of course, I'll be glad to share any info I have. Tom Ramey ==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the body type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else.

Hello Marsil and others: I am new to the Roots list and I apologize if I'm duplicating info everyone has. I've searched the archives and haven't seen this info so I'm following up on Jo Ed's post and Marsil's reply. I am the great great grandson of George William Ramey and a double cousin of Joe Ed Lamb. I did not receive Marsil's prior correspondence or I would have been happy to reply. I have pretty good info on George W. and his family from the time they got to Texas in abt 1859 to 1865. They basically settled in Trinity, Trinity County, Texas after a very brief stop in Coweta, Polk County, Texas. I read with much interest your reply to Jo Ed in that according to my family information, George W. was married to a Martha Jane Langston in Mississippi. This is per my great aunt Pearl Ramey Rawlings before she died. I have seen several notations on WFT and the interenet that he was married to a ? Roberts instead. He is recorded on the 1850 census in Chickasaw County Mississippi as George Ramey age 25, born in Alabama, with wife Jane Ramey, age 22 or 23, born in Alabama, and son John. I of course now wonder if Bettie Roberts had a Jane in her name or if George W. had two wives in Missippi. He remarried in Trinity County twice. I descend from his son Joseph Robert Ramey, through his son, Samuel Crawford, through my father, Joe Sam. I would appreciate your sharing with me the state that Betties Pension application is from (I assume Mississippi) so that I can obtain a copy of it. Does it indicate what happened to the marriage or if her name included Jane? While I'm posting, I have one other question: the 1850 census lists George W.'s brother William Francis in in Monroe County in the household of a Bright and with another Ramey, "Joseph". According to family stories, there was a brother that stayed in Mississippi, but he is identified only as Sam. According to WFT posting there was a brother Garn. Does anyone know if Joseph who is also on the 1860 census in Monroe is indeed a brother or not and if he is Garn or Sam? Thanks for reading and of course, I'll be glad to share any info I have. Tom Ramey

Good morning Cleo......... I sent him the stuff from "THE Book"... :) and according to that he is thru the Hannah Neal and that Asbury bunch.... I told him to query the list..... He is Jacks cousin on the Lamb side... cool huh.. wonder if he knows who he is talking to here.. tee hee hee bet not... see ya' in 3 weeks... Ste. -----Original Message----- From: Marsil Creech [mailto:MARCREECH@prodigy.net] Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 3:38 PM To: RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RAMEY-L] George W. Ramey Hi Joe Ed, Well I have some info on a George W. Ramey b. MS -died Trinity Texas-but he was marriage to Bettie Roberts. I have a copy of Bettie's application for a pension thru George W. Pension states he served with a Texas Unit in Civil War. I also know that there are still descendants living in Trinity, Texas. I have written to them but did not receive a reply. I have the pension papers because I was hoping it was my old George W. Reamy with wife Elizabeth aka Betty. Do you think maybe George W. Ramey was married before Bettie Roberts? I have further info on children if you think this is the right bunch. One of George's sons-William had a son he named William Neale Ramey. Makes me wonder if George W. is related to the bunch in Westmoreland Co VA.They loved the name Neale-apparently after a wife-Hannah Elizabeth Neale-or maybe not. Marsil in NM ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe Ed Lamb <joelamb@email.msn.com> To: <RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 7:43 PM Subject: [RAMEY-L] George W. Ramey > I am looking for information on George W. Ramey (b. 1825 Calhoun Co., Ms / d. 1-1895 Trinity, Tx) > m. to Martha Jane Langston. Would appreciate any help and infomation going up the various twigs and branches. Thanks, Joe Ed > > > ==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the body type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else. > ==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the body type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else.

Hi Joe Ed, Well I have some info on a George W. Ramey b. MS -died Trinity Texas-but he was marriage to Bettie Roberts. I have a copy of Bettie's application for a pension thru George W. Pension states he served with a Texas Unit in Civil War. I also know that there are still descendants living in Trinity, Texas. I have written to them but did not receive a reply. I have the pension papers because I was hoping it was my old George W. Reamy with wife Elizabeth aka Betty. Do you think maybe George W. Ramey was married before Bettie Roberts? I have further info on children if you think this is the right bunch. One of George's sons-William had a son he named William Neale Ramey. Makes me wonder if George W. is related to the bunch in Westmoreland Co VA.They loved the name Neale-apparently after a wife-Hannah Elizabeth Neale-or maybe not. Marsil in NM ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe Ed Lamb <joelamb@email.msn.com> To: <RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 7:43 PM Subject: [RAMEY-L] George W. Ramey > I am looking for information on George W. Ramey (b. 1825 Calhoun Co., Ms / d. 1-1895 Trinity, Tx) > m. to Martha Jane Langston. Would appreciate any help and infomation going up the various twigs and branches. Thanks, Joe Ed > > > ==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the body type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else. >