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    1. Re: [RAMEY-L] RAMEY & DAVIS Query
    2. Bonnie J. Graham
    3. MRS MARSIL R CREECH wrote: > > Hi Bonnie, > I don't show an Eliza Ramey Davis in IL. However do show some > Rameys in MOntgomery Co KY-James and Jacob. Jacob had a daughter > Elizabeth b. ca 1810 -she married Michael Judge tho. That is proven. > > Might be worth checking those boys out and see if your Eliza fits > into their lines somewhere. > Hi Marsil, Thanks so much for the quick reply! I will check into James and Jacob Ramey....what a wonderful clue :-) Bonnie in Alaska

    08/24/1998 11:01:07
    1. [RAMEY-L] Re: Rameys and Whaleys
    2. MRS MARSIL R CREECH
    3. Well Lois, So where are my share of the mammoths? Also want to know what color hair those "cute little hairy things" had? ____ Marsil in the Land of UFO's, Aliens, and weather balloons.

    08/24/1998 11:00:25
    1. Re: [RAMEY-L] RAMEY & DAVIS Query
    2. Bonnie J. Graham
    3. [email protected] wrote: > > I suspect you may be related to us as the name Elizabeth, and both Virginia > and Kentucky show up in our line a lot...Please send me all details you have > on Ramey/Remy line--dates and places. I don't knoe if I can help but someone > ([email protected]) just sent me some stuff that MIGHT help. Maybe you want to > try him directly as well...Times and places fit! > > good luck, Cyndi > Baltimore Hi Cyndi, Thanks for the prompt reply! I sure appreciate it. Unfortunatly, the details I put in my post about my Eliza RAMEY are all I know about her, so can't add much more. If you need me to resend that info, just let me know. Thanks again for the offer to help. Bonnie in Alaska

    08/24/1998 10:54:28
    1. [RAMEY-L] RAMEY & DAVIS Query
    2. Bonnie J. Graham
    3. Hi All, I am new to the Ramey list and have been "lurking" for a week or so before posting my first query. It looks like I am not alone in my struggle to find my VERY elusive RAMEY kin! :-) I am seeking information and/or a family connection to the following: Eliza RAMEY, born abt 1811 in Virginia married Job B. DAVIS before 1829. They may have been married in Mt. Sterling, Montgomery Co., Kentucky as that is where their first child was born. They moved to Christian County, Illinois by about 1835. I suspect that Eliza RAMEY DAVIS was dead by 1860 as she is not listed in the census with husband, Job. They had the following children (these are the ones I know about, there may be more): John H., born 27 Aug 1829 in Mt. Sterling, KY Elizabeth, born abt 1835 in IL Amanda, born abt 1838 in IL William, born abt 1841 in IL Lucy, born abt 1844 in IL Emily, born abt 1848 in IL A family story that was written about my direct ancestor, John H. Davis (son of Eliza RAMEY) states that Eliza was from a "prominent Virginia family". I would sure appreciate it if folks would check their RAMEY research and see if my Eliza is there...I have been trying to find her parents for years!! Sincerely, Bonnie in Alaska

    08/24/1998 09:10:36
    1. [RAMEY-L] FW: CENSUS TAKER
    2. H. Jean Dalrymple
    3. Subject: CENSUS TAKER CENSUS TAKER It was the first day of census, and all through the land; The pollster was ready ... a black book in hand. He mounted his horse for a long dusty ride; His book and some quills were tucked close by his side. A long winding ride down a road barely there; Toward the smell of fresh bread wafting, up through the air. The woman was tired, with lines on her face; And wisps of brown hair she tucked back into place. She gave him some water ... as they sat at the table; And she answered his questions ... the best she was able. He asked of her children... Yes, she had quite a few; The oldest was twenty, the youngest not two. She held up a toddler with cheeks round and red; his sister, she whispered, was napping in bed. She noted each person who lived there with pride; And she felt the faint stirrings of the wee one inside. He noted the sex, the color, the age... The marks from the quill soon filled up the page. At the number of children, she nodded her head; And saw her lips quiver for the three that were dead. The places of birth she "never forgot"; Was it Kansas? or Utah? or Oregon ... or not? They came from Scotland, of that she was clear; But she wasn't quite sure just how long they'd been here. They spoke of employment, of schooling and such; They could read some .and write some .. though really not much. When the questions were answered, his job there was done; So he mounted his horse and he rode toward the sun. We can almost imagine his voice loud and clear; "May God bless you all for another ten years." Now picture a time warp ... its' now you and me; As we search for the people on our family tree. We squint at the census and scroll down so slow; As we search for that entry from long, long ago. Could they only imagine on that long ago day; That the entries they made would effect us this way? If they knew, would they wonder at the yearning we feel; And the searching that makes them so increasingly real. We can hear if we listen the words they impart; Through their blood in our veins and their voice in our heart. Author Unknown CENSUS TAKER It was the first day of census, and all through the land; The pollster was ready ... a black book in hand. He mounted his horse for a long dusty ride; His book and some quills were tucked close by his side. A long winding ride down a road barely there; Toward the smell of fresh bread wafting, up through the air. The woman was tired, with lines on her face; And wisps of brown hair she tucked back into place. She gave him some water ... as they sat at the table; And she answered his questions ... the best she was able. He asked of her children... Yes, she had quite a few; The oldest was twenty, the youngest not two. She held up a toddler with cheeks round and red; his sister, she whispered, was napping in bed. She noted each person who lived there with pride; And she felt the faint stirrings of the wee one inside. He noted the sex, the color, the age... The marks from the quill soon filled up the page. At the number of children, she nodded her head; And saw her lips quiver for the three that were dead. The places of birth she "never forgot"; Was it Kansas? or Utah? or Oregon ... or not? They came from Scotland, of that she was clear; But she wasn't quite sure just how long they'd been here. They spoke of employment, of schooling and such; They could read some .and write some .. though really not much. When the questions were answered, his job there was done; So he mounted his horse and he rode toward the sun. We can almost imagine his voice loud and clear; "May God bless you all for another ten years." Now picture a time warp ... its' now you and me; As we search for the people on our family tree. We squint at the census and scroll down so slow; As we search for that entry from long, long ago. Could they only imagine on that long ago day; That the entries they made would effect us this way? If they knew, would they wonder at the yearning we feel; And the searching that makes them so increasingly real. We can hear if we listen the words they impart; Through their blood in our veins and their voice in our heart. Author Unknown

    08/24/1998 07:03:38
    1. Re: [RAMEY-L] RAMEY & DAVIS Query
    2. I suspect you may be related to us as the name Elizabeth, and both Virginia and Kentucky show up in our line a lot...Please send me all details you have on Ramey/Remy line--dates and places. I don't knoe if I can help but someone ([email protected]) just sent me some stuff that MIGHT help. Maybe you want to try him directly as well...Times and places fit! good luck, Cyndi Baltimore

    08/24/1998 06:51:37
    1. Re: [RAMEY-L] Origins of Ramey Name
    2. Christena Miller
    3. I think that this UFO thing may explain why I can't find any of my ancestors on that side of the family. It's like looking for relatives in Arkansas that were moonshiners, Nobody know nothin' or isn't telling. You might be a revenuer. -----Original Message----- From: MRS MARSIL R CREECH <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Monday, August 24, 1998 1:01 PM Subject: RE: [RAMEY-L] Origins of Ramey Name >Now that is a thought Jeannie. Something did happen to those CD;s. >Good thought-lets work with it. > You know, I have been searching for the log books from that crashed >UFO. I just know it would explain almost everything that I need to >know about Reamys and Creechures. And I do need an explaination, >believe me. > >____ > >Marsil in the Land of UFO's, Aliens, and weather balloons. > >

    08/24/1998 05:52:53
    1. Re: [RAMEY-L] Origins of Ramey Name
    2. This must be the oldest joke in Ramey family history. My dad told my mom he wanted to name me "Doe".

    08/24/1998 04:22:10
    1. [RAMEY-L] obits
    2. Jeannie and list members, Thank you for putting the obits on the list. I rarely put in my two cents as I usually just read my mail, copy what I need and delete the others. I do have the Whaley connection in my database so have been saving all of the obits so I can go through them when I have time. I appreciate all the work you are doing and feel guilty for not saying so earlier. Please consider continuing sending them to the Ramey list. I am one of the ones who is wondering where my CD,money,etc. has gone. Thank you for explaining that it made it to outer space as it did not get to IN. A fellow Ramey cuz, Ann in IN

    08/24/1998 04:18:59
    1. Re: [RAMEY-L] FW: CENSUS TAKER
    2. My Gosh. We've now gone from obits to poems. Unbelievable!!!!!! John Tallman Lookout Mountain, Tennessee

    08/24/1998 03:40:49
    1. RE: [RAMEY-L] Origins of Ramey Name
    2. MRS MARSIL R CREECH
    3. Now that is a thought Jeannie. Something did happen to those CD;s. Good thought-lets work with it. You know, I have been searching for the log books from that crashed UFO. I just know it would explain almost everything that I need to know about Reamys and Creechures. And I do need an explaination, believe me. ____ Marsil in the Land of UFO's, Aliens, and weather balloons.

    08/24/1998 02:57:50
    1. RE: [RAMEY-L] Origins of Ramey Name
    2. H. Jean Dalrymple
    3. The CD's and the log books are probably on that UFO that was waiting behind the comet not to long ago.......you lost your chance...darn.... -----Original Message----- From: MRS MARSIL R CREECH [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, August 24, 1998 1:58 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [RAMEY-L] Origins of Ramey Name Now that is a thought Jeannie. Something did happen to those CD;s. Good thought-lets work with it. You know, I have been searching for the log books from that crashed UFO. I just know it would explain almost everything that I need to know about Reamys and Creechures. And I do need an explaination, believe me. ____ Marsil in the Land of UFO's, Aliens, and weather balloons.

    08/24/1998 02:27:29
    1. [RAMEY-L] EMMA RAMEY, Mecklinburg Co, VA
    2. Polly Burkeen
    3. Hi Ramey List; I have been completely stuck for the last several years on my great-grandmother, Emma Ramey. She was born c1863 in Mecklinburg Co, Va. She married John Reese, also from Mecklinburg Co, Va on Dec 28, 1870 On a copy of her marriage license she lists her parents names as T.C. (maybe L.C.) and Amanda Ramey. If anyone can help on this, I certainly would be grateful. Thanks much, Polly Burkeen Researching BASS, BRECHIN/BRECHEEN/BURKEEN, CROSBY, ELDER, FERGUSON, LANIER, LOYD, MEADOWS, RAMEY, REESE, WORSHAM mostly in Virginia, the Carolinas and Tennessee

    08/24/1998 01:38:24
    1. RE: [RAMEY-L] Re: Rameys and Whaleys
    2. H. Jean Dalrymple
    3. I LIKE being related to the Rameys, albeit via the Whaley intrusion on the clan grounds... way back when... tee hee hee... you are a great group for the mostest part... and have a bit of humor to make it all worth while.....J. <>< -----Original Message----- From: Lois Arthur [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, August 24, 1998 10:00 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [RAMEY-L] Re: Rameys and Whaleys :Hello,: : I think I have figured out why some on the mailing list are upset with the : Whaley obits. I can do this because I am a highly intelligent Know-It-All. : Here goes: In prehistoric times, we all lived in small family clans of : about 30 or 40 individuals. The entire population of the earth about : 100,000 years ago was only in the thousands. Life was easy. Everyone you : saw was someone you knew or was related to. In the morning, the women : would clean the cave, suckle their babies (they were probably cute hairy : little things) and the men would go out for a days work of herding : thousands of mammoths off a cliff to obtain the meat of a few. Life was : good. : Then things began to change. Population of the planet grew. Now instead : of just thousands of us, there are billions of us. Finally, we were forced : to live in hugh communities of people we did not know and, worse yet, were : not related to. The clan was gone, but the need for a clan remain. : These surname mailing lists, like Ramey, fulfills our need for the clan. : With these lists, we are a small group of related people, sharing the same : ancestors, communicating with e-mail instead of grunts, and basically, when : we are accessing our Ramey mailing list, we are back with the clan and life : is good again. : In prehistoric times, when another clan crossed the territory of the : resident clan, war would ensure. Other clans were looked upon with fear : and chased out. That is what has happened with the introduction of the : Whaley obits into the Ramey mailing list. Some feel that an alien clan has : invaded their territory. We are at was with the Whaleys : Well, there it is, my explaination of the Whaley obit controversy. What do : you think? Remeber all you Rameys cousins, those nasty old Whaleys can't : hurt us, they are all dead. For that matter, all our Rameys on the list : are dead too. : In the far distant future, one of our decendents can get even. They can : sat down at their 2000 MB Ram Computer, turn on their Windows 2198, access : the Universal Web, turn on their e-mail and send our obits right to the : Whaley mailing list. In the meantime, enjoy the obits we are getting. : They are very interesting and I like them. Thanks : Lois Arthur : [email protected] : : : : : : : :

    08/24/1998 11:19:23
    1. [RAMEY-L] Re: Rameys and Whaleys
    2. Lois Arthur
    3. :Hello,: : I think I have figured out why some on the mailing list are upset with the : Whaley obits. I can do this because I am a highly intelligent Know-It-All. : Here goes: In prehistoric times, we all lived in small family clans of : about 30 or 40 individuals. The entire population of the earth about : 100,000 years ago was only in the thousands. Life was easy. Everyone you : saw was someone you knew or was related to. In the morning, the women : would clean the cave, suckle their babies (they were probably cute hairy : little things) and the men would go out for a days work of herding : thousands of mammoths off a cliff to obtain the meat of a few. Life was : good. : Then things began to change. Population of the planet grew. Now instead : of just thousands of us, there are billions of us. Finally, we were forced : to live in hugh communities of people we did not know and, worse yet, were : not related to. The clan was gone, but the need for a clan remain. : These surname mailing lists, like Ramey, fulfills our need for the clan. : With these lists, we are a small group of related people, sharing the same : ancestors, communicating with e-mail instead of grunts, and basically, when : we are accessing our Ramey mailing list, we are back with the clan and life : is good again. : In prehistoric times, when another clan crossed the territory of the : resident clan, war would ensure. Other clans were looked upon with fear : and chased out. That is what has happened with the introduction of the : Whaley obits into the Ramey mailing list. Some feel that an alien clan has : invaded their territory. We are at was with the Whaleys : Well, there it is, my explaination of the Whaley obit controversy. What do : you think? Remeber all you Rameys cousins, those nasty old Whaleys can't : hurt us, they are all dead. For that matter, all our Rameys on the list : are dead too. : In the far distant future, one of our decendents can get even. They can : sat down at their 2000 MB Ram Computer, turn on their Windows 2198, access : the Universal Web, turn on their e-mail and send our obits right to the : Whaley mailing list. In the meantime, enjoy the obits we are getting. : They are very interesting and I like them. Thanks : Lois Arthur : [email protected] : : : : : : : :

    08/24/1998 11:00:12
    1. [RAMEY-L] Ky-footsteps
    2. H. Jean Dalrymple
    3. The URL for KY footsteps is http://www.rootsweb.com/~kygenweb/lists/kyfootsteps.html If you go there they will tell you how to subscribe to the list.... Thank you again for your support.. Jeannie <><

    08/24/1998 09:52:49
    1. [RAMEY-L] Re: Unidentified subject!
    2. Polly Burkeen
    3. At 07:20 PM 8/23/1998 -0700, you wrote: >I really thought that when I started with these obits that I could do >this...even tho I knew that it was going to be quite a chore.... BUT what I >did not think...was how hateful some people can be.....At one time in my >life I was very thick skinned, but that was a long time ago....I guess I >can take a few smart remarks, but when things so get nasty that I sit here >and cry... then it isn't worth it.....and some of your private remarks are >very hurtful.... You know who you are.... You are the ones that don't have >the guts to say anything on the lists.... I even rec'd 20 of the obits back >tonight from one person... I sent her a thank you...... > >I am sorry to those of you who are serious researchers and understand the >importance of these obits..... > >When I finish with them they will be in the libraries of the different >counties and in Frankfort..... > >Thank you.... Jeannie <>< > > >Jeannie- Not all of us are nasty. Even though I haven't found any of my Rameys. I have thoroughly enjoyed reading them. The great majority if us appreciate your hard work!! Polly > > > > >

    08/24/1998 08:55:47
    1. RE: [RAMEY-L] Origins of Ramey Name
    2. H. Jean Dalrymple
    3. Do you think that maybe the gov confiscated the CD's tee hee hee... -----Original Message----- From: Lois Arthur [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, August 23, 1998 8:16 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [RAMEY-L] Origins of Ramey Name Marsil, I have seen some of the pictures of the aliens recoverd in the UFO Roswell Crash. I have also seen the film of the alien autopsy. You know, those aliens look a lot like my family. They may be Rameys after all. I wonder if the Govenment is aware of this. I did get information on my request for the Ramey name origin from Jeannie Thanks Jeannie. That was helpful. It will make my father happy to see the Egyptian origin of the name since he is an Ancient Egyptian Historian and also of the Ramey line.(He's not an Ancien Egyptian, just an Ancient Egyptian Historian) By the way, keep the orbits coming. Knowledge is all we have that seperates us from our prehistoric past. Also, Marsil might have some alien orbits. She lives in Roswell you know. Lois, [email protected] ----------ORIGINAL MESSAGE--------- : : Hi Lois, : I can't help you out too much on the origins of the name Remy or : any other spelling thereof. But lets consider the fact that Gen. : Roger Ramey was involved in the UFO Crash coverup (?) in Roswell, NM : in 1947. : Lends credence to your black whole theory : : ,,,,,,,, : . -----0--( o o )--0---- : () : : ____ : : Marsil in the Land of UFO's, Aliens, and weather balloons. :

    08/24/1998 08:41:07
    1. RE: [RAMEY-L] Thnaks
    2. H. Jean Dalrymple
    3. You guys are all crazy.... Must be in the genes tee hee..... -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, August 23, 1998 9:44 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [RAMEY-L] Thnaks yvonne said to HOLLER HOLLER HOLLER ha ha. i also told yvonne that you are getting to be too strange to be real. not only was a ramey in on that investigation deal at roswell, but another one closely associated with all that investigation stuff was a name strangely close to marsil. marsell? marsel?? i wont tell if you want to confide..... rick and yvonne ==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== ****please, if anyone is interested in becoming listowner for the Ramey email list, please contact Mary K. [email protected] I have taken on much more than I can handle, and need some help!

    08/24/1998 08:25:58
    1. RE: [RAMEY-L] Origins of Ramey Name
    2. H. Jean Dalrymple
    3. You are so right........wish I had thought of that... :) -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, August 23, 1998 7:51 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [RAMEY-L] Origins of Ramey Name the way i understand it, the music scales were written after the ramey family. do ramey fa so la ti do. isnt that just too cool? rick

    08/24/1998 07:43:10