The Remy Family of America 1650---1942 compiled by Bonnelle William Rhamey, M.D. When I ordered it to replace a few pages that were missing from my copy, it came from the William and Mary college in VA.... And I was not allowed to remove it from the library....... It was not in good shape......... Jeannie <>< -----Original Message----- From: Louis Reed [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, September 03, 1998 3:33 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [RAMEY-L] Remy Family in America I never thought about ordering it through interlibrary loan. What is the full name of the book and name of the author? Louis R. H. Jean Dalrymple wrote: > > All my copy says is Fort Wayne Indiana 1942....... I see nothing that says > ANYTHING about a copyright.....but my book is a copy not one that was off > the printing press...but I am sure that I have all of the pages.... One can > get it on interlibrary loan and check it out... who else has a book out > there... do you Marsil? > > -----Original Message----- > From: J.D. Martin [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, September 03, 1998 1:46 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [RAMEY-L] Remy Family in America > > >Say, what ever happened to the idea of every one > >with a book typing up a few pages a week or what > >ever until we had the thing out on the net.....I > >thought that was a good idea.... Or did copyright > >laws intervene ......... I doubt that there are any > >now...... it has been a day or two since this book > >was published....... > > I only had about four people say that they would > type up a few pages, but I got oodles of messages > warning me about copyrights, etc. > The book would still be covered under the copyright > renewal act, according to my interpretation of the > legaleze on the gov't pages. Not a soul responded > to my inquiry into who published the book, or the > descendents of the good Dr. I still would like > to see us make this project fly, and I will still > write the HTML and provide disk space, but I just > do not have the time to do it all. I'm sure we would > all appreciate it if someone could verify the copyright > status of the book, so that we might proceed with the > project. > Thanks, > J.D. Martin

I never thought about ordering it through interlibrary loan. What is the full name of the book and name of the author? Louis R. H. Jean Dalrymple wrote: > > All my copy says is Fort Wayne Indiana 1942....... I see nothing that says > ANYTHING about a copyright.....but my book is a copy not one that was off > the printing press...but I am sure that I have all of the pages.... One can > get it on interlibrary loan and check it out... who else has a book out > there... do you Marsil? > > -----Original Message----- > From: J.D. Martin [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, September 03, 1998 1:46 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [RAMEY-L] Remy Family in America > > >Say, what ever happened to the idea of every one > >with a book typing up a few pages a week or what > >ever until we had the thing out on the net.....I > >thought that was a good idea.... Or did copyright > >laws intervene ......... I doubt that there are any > >now...... it has been a day or two since this book > >was published....... > > I only had about four people say that they would > type up a few pages, but I got oodles of messages > warning me about copyrights, etc. > The book would still be covered under the copyright > renewal act, according to my interpretation of the > legaleze on the gov't pages. Not a soul responded > to my inquiry into who published the book, or the > descendents of the good Dr. I still would like > to see us make this project fly, and I will still > write the HTML and provide disk space, but I just > do not have the time to do it all. I'm sure we would > all appreciate it if someone could verify the copyright > status of the book, so that we might proceed with the > project. > Thanks, > J.D. Martin

All my copy says is Fort Wayne Indiana 1942....... I see nothing that says ANYTHING about a copyright.....but my book is a copy not one that was off the printing press...but I am sure that I have all of the pages.... One can get it on interlibrary loan and check it out... who else has a book out there... do you Marsil? -----Original Message----- From: J.D. Martin [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, September 03, 1998 1:46 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [RAMEY-L] Remy Family in America >Say, what ever happened to the idea of every one >with a book typing up a few pages a week or what >ever until we had the thing out on the net.....I >thought that was a good idea.... Or did copyright >laws intervene ......... I doubt that there are any >now...... it has been a day or two since this book >was published....... I only had about four people say that they would type up a few pages, but I got oodles of messages warning me about copyrights, etc. The book would still be covered under the copyright renewal act, according to my interpretation of the legaleze on the gov't pages. Not a soul responded to my inquiry into who published the book, or the descendents of the good Dr. I still would like to see us make this project fly, and I will still write the HTML and provide disk space, but I just do not have the time to do it all. I'm sure we would all appreciate it if someone could verify the copyright status of the book, so that we might proceed with the project. Thanks, J.D. Martin

I am willing to type pages........Jeannie <>< -----Original Message----- From: Ken Ramey [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, September 03, 1998 2:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [RAMEY-L] Remy Family in America Well...I'm not a lawyer, so take this for what it's worth. But, I doubt that the book is still covered under copyright for two reasons. 1) A few years ago, I had a consulting business in which I travelled around the country, teaching companies how to perform technical tasks (I won't bore you with the details). I wrote several "booklets" to help with this job, which I copyrighted. In the information packet that I received, it said that copyrights are good for 50 years. 2) It is my understanding that Mormon Stakes will copy the book for anyone, from microfilm, for a fee. I _believe_ they would have resolved this issue before making such a service available. While I don't have a copy of the book, I *am* an HTML designer and also offer my services to put the book on-line, if these other issues can be resolved. I would *really* like to see this work! Especially since I am one of "Bob Wright's" victims. Ken RAMEY

Well...I'm not a lawyer, so take this for what it's worth. But, I doubt that the book is still covered under copyright for two reasons. 1) A few years ago, I had a consulting business in which I travelled around the country, teaching companies how to perform technical tasks (I won't bore you with the details). I wrote several "booklets" to help with this job, which I copyrighted. In the information packet that I received, it said that copyrights are good for 50 years. 2) It is my understanding that Mormon Stakes will copy the book for anyone, from microfilm, for a fee. I _believe_ they would have resolved this issue before making such a service available. While I don't have a copy of the book, I *am* an HTML designer and also offer my services to put the book on-line, if these other issues can be resolved. I would *really* like to see this work! Especially since I am one of "Bob Wright's" victims. Ken RAMEY

>Say, what ever happened to the idea of every one >with a book typing up a few pages a week or what >ever until we had the thing out on the net.....I >thought that was a good idea.... Or did copyright >laws intervene ......... I doubt that there are any >now...... it has been a day or two since this book >was published....... I only had about four people say that they would type up a few pages, but I got oodles of messages warning me about copyrights, etc. The book would still be covered under the copyright renewal act, according to my interpretation of the legaleze on the gov't pages. Not a soul responded to my inquiry into who published the book, or the descendents of the good Dr. I still would like to see us make this project fly, and I will still write the HTML and provide disk space, but I just do not have the time to do it all. I'm sure we would all appreciate it if someone could verify the copyright status of the book, so that we might proceed with the project. Thanks, J.D. Martin

Well, I hate to seem a spoilsport too but I just looked at 141 messages for this list from the past week or so and I think saying that 50% of them were at all genealogically related (as Jim suggested in one note) is being generous. I have been on this list since it started and have not said or offered much since the initial flurries but have faithfully filtered all Ramey list mail into its own folder. I can't imagine how it is for people who don't use filtering. I have seen a few people using the 'just delete it' argument and I again agree with the person who pointed out that 'just deleting it' can easily take up to a half hour a day, especially if you are an active internet researcher. Everyone here seems to have a warm heart and I am continuously impressed by the willingness to share info. On a quality list with great people I certainly have no prob putting up with a more 'snowy' signal- to-noise ratio, but unrelated posts on this list seem to just be gaining momentum. Maybe (hopefully) I am wrong and it will settle down. :) I sincerely do add my plea to the others that long-running jokes and one line replies to same (especially those which quote the *whole* message beneath if you want to get on a bandwidth soapbox) be taken to personal email where they belong. Maybe if people can't resist sharing their personal messages they could do like in newsgroups and add an ObRamey to the message. (Meaning add an on-topic comment to every post). I could wax on about this but I am trying to keep my diplomatic smiley face on. :) Here's my ObRamey: Marriage record (image and transcribed) of Elizabeth REED and James RAMEY (son of John, son of Unknown, son of William REMY and Eleanor McCARTY): http://www.hypertree.com/images/marriage/mc-jr-er.html (Don't mind the rest of the site, I am redoing it and am only up to the I's *grin*) Shari

Cindi, More confusion. The information I have on Jacob Remy coming to America in 1654 pretty well fits the information others have on him. Also, his first wife died at sea and his second wife was Mary Miles. I also have information that says he came to America as an indentured servant. I have the name of the nobleman he was indentured to but will have to look it up if anyone is intersted. I also have a birth date for him as 1640. Which would have made him only 14 when he came over. That is possible and young children were sonetimes indentured servants. That still happenes today in some countries. However, would a fourteen year old have a wife. I have a fourteen year old son who is married to his CD player. If any one on the list can help me with this, please let me know. I promise not to talk about Ancient Egypt. I am a direct decendent of this Jacob, as is most of us here. Cindi, if he is your ancestor too, it's just a matter of time before the Ramey madness sets in. Good luck. Lois Arthur in Indiana [email protected].net.

Why not.... After all, she is one of us, tho a new-bee.....and she IS trying, and we have been giving the poor girl nightmares...... tee hee hee ....... Say, what ever happened to the idea of every one with a book typing up a few pages a week or what ever until we had the thing out on the net.....I thought that was a good idea.... Or did copyright laws intervene ......... I doubt that there are any now...... it has been a day or two since this book was published....... And, Cindy,.. yep they were Huguenots, Jacobs 1st wife came on a separate boat and she was never heard from again.... Probably drowned at sea or fell in love with the captain and sailed off into the sunset.... Then he married a Sarah Miles ?, Spencer ?, Marmaduke ? And I think that Rick Ramey pretty well has what the rest of us have.... Actually I gave the wrong information last night, I am not a goddess, I am a saint.... I was a bit tired and that caused my mind to be a bit foggy........ -----Original Message----- From: Doris Haff [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 1998 10:18 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [RAMEY-L] Remy Family in America Shall we tell her about Bob Wright??? Doris At 12:33 AM 9/3/98 EDT, you wrote: >Wilma, > >Where'd you find the book? Rick Ramey sent me a great list that included my >line, but I loved to know more about their lives...anecdotal history...My last >Ramey is Jemima b. 1802, dau of Sanford Sr b. before 1782. Would love more >info on them...Rick's info took us back to Jacob Remy b.ca1640 in France. Does >your book say why they emigrated? Were they Huguenots? Does it say anything >about migrations of this Jacob and the several Jacobs following (there are 5 >Jacobs, then my Sanford!)? Would love a copy if it's feasible...is it a long >book? can it be scanned maybe? Tell me more...! > >thanks! >Cyndi >Baltimore > > > ==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== ****please, if anyone is interested in becoming listowner for the Ramey email list, please contact Mary K. [email protected] I have taken on much more than I can handle, and need some help!

Shall we tell her about Bob Wright??? Doris At 12:33 AM 9/3/98 EDT, you wrote: >Wilma, > >Where'd you find the book? Rick Ramey sent me a great list that included my >line, but I loved to know more about their lives...anecdotal history...My last >Ramey is Jemima b. 1802, dau of Sanford Sr b. before 1782. Would love more >info on them...Rick's info took us back to Jacob Remy b.ca1640 in France. Does >your book say why they emigrated? Were they Huguenots? Does it say anything >about migrations of this Jacob and the several Jacobs following (there are 5 >Jacobs, then my Sanford!)? Would love a copy if it's feasible...is it a long >book? can it be scanned maybe? Tell me more...! > >thanks! >Cyndi >Baltimore > > >

Poor Cyndi.........she has no idea, but the truth is we are all a little looney, as it is a family trait......all of that intermarriage stuff with those Whaley's...................And Lois... you are the one that is Nefertiti with the wart on your nose......don't lay it on my... I am a goddess...... and Cleo is so RIGHT... we are REALLY in trouble NOW... Will probably get booted off the list...... -----Original Message----- From: Lois Arthur [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 1998 8:01 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [RAMEY-L] Ramey, the Egyptian, Cindi, It was determined that the early origin of the name Ramey could have come from ancient Egypt and was a version of Ramesis. Ramesis the Great was one of the most powerful Pharaohs of Egypt. Armed with this information, we began a dialog between some of us over who was more closely related to Ramesis. Since Ramesis had 175 children, it was decided that we all could be. Marsil seem to think that she was more royal than the rest of us because she looked more like Elizabeth Taylor. We let her think that so as not to hurt her feelings. Then Jeannie, I think it was Jeannie, thought she looked like Queen Nefertiti. Of course, everyone knows that I look more like Nefertiti, but we won't go into that now. Then we began to fight over who should were the Crown of Isis. Isis was an Egyptian Goddess. We decided that Marsil could wear it because her ancestors were more "Interesting" than ours were. You don't really want to know how "interesting". At this point, some of the more serious researchers on the mailing list got angry because we were discussing this " Egyptian Thing" instead of doing research. They scolded us for being so inconsiderate and being throughly ashamed, we stopped talking about it. Now that the "Egyptian Thing" has reared its ugly head again, we may get scolded again. I feel so bad about this. It brings back terrible memories of childhood when my mother would scream at me, "SHUT UP, YOU LITTLE BRAT." Now you know. Please don't get us into trouble. We can't talk about the "Egyptian Thing" anymore. Lois Arthur in Indiana [email protected]

I KNEW it!..... I just had to open my mouth..... -----Original Message----- From: MRS MARSIL R CREECH [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 1998 7:06 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [RAMEY-L] Nonsense Christena, Jeannie, Lois, We are in trouble again, girls. ____ Marsil in the Land of UFO's, Aliens, and weather balloons.

Cindi, It was determined that the early origin of the name Ramey could have come from ancient Egypt and was a version of Ramesis. Ramesis the Great was one of the most powerful Pharaohs of Egypt. Armed with this information, we began a dialog between some of us over who was more closely related to Ramesis. Since Ramesis had 175 children, it was decided that we all could be. Marsil seem to think that she was more royal than the rest of us because she looked more like Elizabeth Taylor. We let her think that so as not to hurt her feelings. Then Jeannie, I think it was Jeannie, thought she looked like Queen Nefertiti. Of course, everyone knows that I look more like Nefertiti, but we won't go into that now. Then we began to fight over who should were the Crown of Isis. Isis was an Egyptian Goddess. We decided that Marsil could wear it because her ancestors were more "Interesting" than ours were. You don't really want to know how "interesting". At this point, some of the more serious researchers on the mailing list got angry because we were discussing this " Egyptian Thing" instead of doing research. They scolded us for being so inconsiderate and being throughly ashamed, we stopped talking about it. Now that the "Egyptian Thing" has reared its ugly head again, we may get scolded again. I feel so bad about this. It brings back terrible memories of childhood when my mother would scream at me, "SHUT UP, YOU LITTLE BRAT." Now you know. Please don't get us into trouble. We can't talk about the "Egyptian Thing" anymore. Lois Arthur in Indiana [email protected]

Well Cindi, I will, naturally, get in some hot water over this.Won't be the first time however. The Egyptian thing-some of the other less qualified on this list are trying to take my crown from me. I look more like Liz Taylor than any of the rest them and they are "green" with envy. Seriously tho,Lois will hopefully, post the right info for you. ____ Marsil in the Land of UFO's, Aliens, and weather balloons.

Christena, Jeannie, Lois, We are in trouble again, girls. ____ Marsil in the Land of UFO's, Aliens, and weather balloons.

<A HREF="http://www.wallofhonor.com/">The American Immigrant Wall of Honor </A> ____ Marsil in the Land of UFO's, Aliens, and weather balloons.

Wilma, Where'd you find the book? Rick Ramey sent me a great list that included my line, but I loved to know more about their lives...anecdotal history...My last Ramey is Jemima b. 1802, dau of Sanford Sr b. before 1782. Would love more info on them...Rick's info took us back to Jacob Remy b.ca1640 in France. Does your book say why they emigrated? Were they Huguenots? Does it say anything about migrations of this Jacob and the several Jacobs following (there are 5 Jacobs, then my Sanford!)? Would love a copy if it's feasible...is it a long book? can it be scanned maybe? Tell me more...! thanks! Cyndi Baltimore

Cyndi, I do think that I will let Nefertiti answer this in her very own words.....if she can tear herself away from the mirror and the tell tale wart on her nose.... Or perhaps Cleo..... will come to my rescue here :).... I have a feeling I am going to get into hot water by letting out the family secret of warts.........J.. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 1998 3:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [RAMEY-L] "Egyptian thing" Can someone fill me in on the Egyptian connection? I must have joined list just after it was posted and would love to hear it. What's this about Rameses? People have said I look like Nefertiti--wouldn't I love to find out she's somehow related!! Our line (such as it is): Sanford Ramey, Sr b. bef 1782, m. to Elizabeth Dunn bef 1802 VA?, d. 1823-8 Loudoun Co, VA? Jemima Ramey b. 1802 VA?, m. to John Hereford I, 1817 Henry Co, VA, d. after 1845. (3 more Herefords to my mom) Someone ([email protected]) recently sent me a Ramey line back to Jacob Remy ca 1641-1721 France-VA which includes our Sanford. Very impressive if anyone needs it. Don't know all his sources, but sure is a comprehensive list! Cousins? Any help on this Egyptian thing? Enjoy the postings...! Cyndi Baltimore

I come from a long line of nonsense -----Original Message----- From: MRS MARSIL R CREECH <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, September 01, 1998 6:29 PM Subject: Re: [RAMEY-L] Nonsense >Cute Christena-rhyme/rame > >____ > >Marsil in the Land of UFO's, Aliens, and weather balloons. > >

Bonnie, Did I ever reply on your Eliza? I've been off-line awhile and now can't remember anything! Did you try [email protected] for info? He sure has a lot on my line. Can't remember what you sent on Eliza--dates? places? husband? Sorry. You may want to re-post to list as well if you haven't rec'd any answers... Cyndi Baltimore