Speaking as a full time non-traditional college student with a 45-49 hour work week I must state my dissatisfaction with the VOLUMES of personal messages and TOTAL NONSENCE on this list. I have very little time to waste with such trivialities, but felt after sitting by for the last two months that I must say something. I would really love to find my Moses Ramey who married Tabitha, not the one who married Jane Fuller, and that is the reason I remain on this list. But really. Be considerate of us who have lives and don't spend all day chained to our computers answering every e-mail with a quick and coy reply within minutes after receiving it. Jim Miller -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Wednesday, September 16, 1998 7:15 AM Subject: Re: RE: [RAMEY-L] Re: Ramey Family Humor >PLEASE I really don't think you know how much time it takes for the rest of >us to interrupt what we are doing to check out the high volume of personal >communication between a few individuals. > >THERE IS A SOLUTION If you would identify those individuals that you want to >have on the "party" line, you need only list them all once in the Address area >of your message. Thereafter, answer using the "reply all" button instead of >using the list for a personal hot line. We are not saying you should not talk >to your friends - only, be considerate of the rest of us. > >Jim Farrar > >______________________________

Ken, I have been trying to send out a copy of the book every couple of days, and yours is the next one to go out (tommorow). I have your address as 540 E. Windy Peak, Tuscon, AZ 85704. The FedEx number is 802421985361 so you can check it with FedEx tommorow evening. Sorry for all the delays and problems, I hope to get them all taken care of, but I can only copy one every day or two. (Tommorow I am actually sending out two). Thanks for your patience. I would also be happy to provide web space and the pages I already have for your project. Your probably not interested, considering, but the offer still stands. Bob Wright At 09:58 AM 9/16/98 -0700, you wrote: >Hi, All; > >Just a quick note to let everyone know that Leslie and I have started the >project of getting the "Ramey Book" on the Web. Leslie has obtained copies of >about half the pages in the book and has started scanning them. I have gotten a >web site on geocities to hold the information and have started building the HTML >framework for the book. If I can beg, borrow, steal, or buy (preferably buy) a >copy of the book, I will also help with the scanning. > >Our plan is to put both the scanned page images and an HTML translation of the >book on-line. This will allow researchers to read a "clean" version and also >look at the original text to make sure they agree with our reading. We also >plan on fully indexing the on-line version. > >One problem area we are having is pictures. The pictures in Leslie's copy came >out as black boxes, with no details. If anyone has cleaner copies of the >pictures that they are willing to send to either Leslie or me, we will include >them on the web site. > >NOTE TO ERNIE CASTLE: >You mentioned in an earlier note that Dr. Rhamey's grandson gave you a contact >number for getting copies of the book. Could you possibley post that >information for everyone? Thanks... > >That's all. We'll keep everyone posted on our progress. > >Ken RAMEY >

Dear Ramey Researchers, Having been an "online genealogist" since the onset of it's birth, I know first hand what happens to lists such as ours when squabbling begins amungst members. Therefore, since joining this list I have deliberatly kept quiet about the ongoing, friendly chatting between some members. Some of the "flaming messages" that I have read over the years when members begin to voice concerns were enough to heat up even the coldest Alaskan winter day! Stuff like this usually, eventually, kills the list...therefor I exercised my option to not get involved in this issue. Having said all that, I am afraid I have to join with others who feel that the RAMEY list is not the appropriate place for the whimsical notes some of you enjoy sending and recieving. Some friendly talk is expected and enjoyed by everyone - but this has gone way beyond what many of us are comfortable with - we all have a breaking point, mine was the disparaging remarks about family members that are now occuring alongside Eqyptology, et al. Of course, I know, I and others who are feeling increasing frustration can simply unsubscribe. But genealogy is my passion....and my Ramey ancestor is one of only a few lines I have not been able to trace....and I really want to stay on this list, participate, share and grow from other's wisdom. Please, for the good of the order...explore the many alternative ideas some have suggested so that those of you who have become dear "online friends" can continue to communicate while those of us who need to move quickly and efficiently through our Email can do so. Bonnie in Alaska

Thanks Ken, Appreciate what you and Leslie are doing. ____ Marsil in the Land of UFO's, Aliens, and weather balloons.

Or start a Ramey Chat Room for those who enjoy conversation and for those times when you have no data to share. Going through all of those messages is a pain. Ann ---------- > From: Jennifer <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [RAMEY-L] Re: Ramey Family Humor > Date: Wednesday, September 16, 1998 1:12 PM > > > > [email protected] wrote: > > > PLEASE I really don't think you know how much time it takes for the rest of > > us to interrupt what we are doing to check out the high volume of personal > > communication between a few individuals. > > > > THERE IS A SOLUTION If you would identify those individuals that you want to > > have on the "party" line, you need only list them all once in the Address area > > of your message. Thereafter, answer using the "reply all" button instead of > > using the list for a personal hot line. We are not saying you should not talk > > to your friends - only, be considerate of the rest of us. > > > > Jim Farrar > > I agree, very tiresome and obviously inconsiderate...... > >

Ken and Leslie, I know that all RAMEY researchers appreciate what you are doing, especially those of us that have not connected to the main line. This may possibly give us the clues we need. Again, thank you both for your hard work, Doris Haff [email protected] Researching these surnames: Readnour, Ramey, New, Coon, Henzler, Jump and others See my family tree at http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/5170/gnealogy.htm

I can't translate that either and I am wearing the crown. Betcha Lois kept the true crown and sent me a paste copy. That is what happens when you want a place to put your feather. ____ Marsil in the Land of UFO's, Aliens, and weather balloons.

Doris and all, Glad to be able to help out....its coming but its a big book, may take a little while but we started it today!! Leslie

[email protected] wrote: > PLEASE I really don't think you know how much time it takes for the rest of > us to interrupt what we are doing to check out the high volume of personal > communication between a few individuals. > > THERE IS A SOLUTION If you would identify those individuals that you want to > have on the "party" line, you need only list them all once in the Address area > of your message. Thereafter, answer using the "reply all" button instead of > using the list for a personal hot line. We are not saying you should not talk > to your friends - only, be considerate of the rest of us. > > Jim Farrar I agree, very tiresome and obviously inconsiderate......

Hi, All; Just a quick note to let everyone know that Leslie and I have started the project of getting the "Ramey Book" on the Web. Leslie has obtained copies of about half the pages in the book and has started scanning them. I have gotten a web site on geocities to hold the information and have started building the HTML framework for the book. If I can beg, borrow, steal, or buy (preferably buy) a copy of the book, I will also help with the scanning. Our plan is to put both the scanned page images and an HTML translation of the book on-line. This will allow researchers to read a "clean" version and also look at the original text to make sure they agree with our reading. We also plan on fully indexing the on-line version. One problem area we are having is pictures. The pictures in Leslie's copy came out as black boxes, with no details. If anyone has cleaner copies of the pictures that they are willing to send to either Leslie or me, we will include them on the web site. NOTE TO ERNIE CASTLE: You mentioned in an earlier note that Dr. Rhamey's grandson gave you a contact number for getting copies of the book. Could you possibley post that information for everyone? Thanks... That's all. We'll keep everyone posted on our progress. Ken RAMEY

Viola RAMEY, b 28 June 1878, d 9 Sept 1878 (d/o Rev.H.J. & S.A. RAMEY) Fosters Chapel Cemetery--East End from the book "Monument Inscriptions of Robertson County, Kentucky" by Eric Nagle and larry L. Ford. [email protected] http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Special/WhaleyObits The best form of spiritual excercise is to touch the floor regularly with your knees.

You are wrong, My line goes even back further, you HAVE heard of Noahs wife haven't you...Joan of Arc. Well, actually my Joan of Arc Ramey was a direct descendant of Noah's wife..... In fact as you can see she was named after her... -----Original Message----- From: Lois Arthur [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 1998 9:30 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [RAMEY-L] Re: Ramey Family Humor I have been doing some serious research about Jeannie being a Ramey related to Joan of Arc. From what I have been able to find out. Joan of Arc's mother was not a Ramey but a a Sidenstucker who was the sister of a woman who married a Captain of a garbage ship that got lost at sea and ended up in America. The Captain disembarked and came to Virginia. There he had a daughter who married an Indian medicine man named Young Man Afraid of Bugs. His father was Old Man Afraid of Bugs. They had a child who married into the Ramey family and moved to Ohio with the Rameys in 1807. A son was born who went to France in search of his ancestory and married Mable Sidenstucker, who was a descendent of Joan of Arc's mother. One of their children, Arc, named after Joan, came to America looking for his ancestry. He married an Indian named Young Woman Afraid of Young Man Afraid of Bugs, and they had a daughter who married another Ramey. Jeannie is descendent of this line of Rameys who do go back to Joan of Arc via scared Indians, lost garbage ships and what have you. Maybe she is a Saint after all. Lois Arthur in Indiana [email protected]

this must be Ancient Egyptian, and being as I am from the French branch of the family I can't translate... -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 1998 9:53 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [RAMEY-L] Re: Ramey Family Humor roflmao

Are you trying to tell us something Lois? -----Original Message----- From: Lois Arthur [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 1998 8:38 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [RAMEY-L] Husband in Tub Marsil, You shouldn.t complain, at least your husband takes a bath Lois Arthur in Indiana [email protected]

You can't have my Ste hood....so there! just stick to your barge and leave my stake alone -----Original Message----- From: MRS MARSIL R CREECH [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 1998 9:45 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [RAMEY-L] Husband in Tub Not complaining Lois of the unwashed husband persuastion, Cleanliness is next to grumpiness. Just letting you know that I am in search of Jeannie's sainthood. ____ Marsil in the Land of UFO's, Aliens, and weather balloons.

:))) -----Original Message----- From: MRS MARSIL R CREECH [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 1998 9:23 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [RAMEY-L] FW: Family History Humor I told you that I was not going to tell where she lived. Do not want a mass exodus from that particular state. My husband, Old Grumpy, who is married to a Reamy descendant. (for serious researchers), one bright and early morning got stuck in the bathtub. Talking early here. And as the mother of new twins, I was taking advantage of the peace and quiet to snooze. I was rudely awakened to the sound of an angry, irritated voice calling, "Marsil, *&^@!$ come help me. Opened those lovely sleepy eyes but could not find anyone. Needless to say, the angry irritated voice continued yelling my name. I recognized the voice as the voice of Old Grumpy. I know it well-angry, irritated or otherwise. Being unable to go back to sleep due to all the noise that had penetrated my peaceful quiet kingdom, I decided to get out of bed and hunt this voice. I arose from the bed to see what matter was-there was Old Grumpy, naked, cold, shivering crawling on all fours into the bedroom. (Maybe I should have said unclothed-are we x-rated?) Okay, I laughed so hard that I woke the sleeping twins further irritating the strange thing on all fours. He has been irritated with me since that day. I will save the story on "How To Get An Angry Spouse Off the Floor Into A Bed" for another time. ____ Marsil in the Land of UFO's, Aliens, and weather balloons.

PLEASE I really don't think you know how much time it takes for the rest of us to interrupt what we are doing to check out the high volume of personal communication between a few individuals. THERE IS A SOLUTION If you would identify those individuals that you want to have on the "party" line, you need only list them all once in the Address area of your message. Thereafter, answer using the "reply all" button instead of using the list for a personal hot line. We are not saying you should not talk to your friends - only, be considerate of the rest of us. Jim Farrar

Not complaining Lois of the unwashed husband persuastion, Cleanliness is next to grumpiness. Just letting you know that I am in search of Jeannie's sainthood. ____ Marsil in the Land of UFO's, Aliens, and weather balloons.

I have been doing some serious research about Jeannie being a Ramey related to Joan of Arc. From what I have been able to find out. Joan of Arc's mother was not a Ramey but a a Sidenstucker who was the sister of a woman who married a Captain of a garbage ship that got lost at sea and ended up in America. The Captain disembarked and came to Virginia. There he had a daughter who married an Indian medicine man named Young Man Afraid of Bugs. His father was Old Man Afraid of Bugs. They had a child who married into the Ramey family and moved to Ohio with the Rameys in 1807. A son was born who went to France in search of his ancestory and married Mable Sidenstucker, who was a descendent of Joan of Arc's mother. One of their children, Arc, named after Joan, came to America looking for his ancestry. He married an Indian named Young Woman Afraid of Young Man Afraid of Bugs, and they had a daughter who married another Ramey. Jeannie is descendent of this line of Rameys who do go back to Joan of Arc via scared Indians, lost garbage ships and what have you. Maybe she is a Saint after all. Lois Arthur in Indiana [email protected]

I told you that I was not going to tell where she lived. Do not want a mass exodus from that particular state. My husband, Old Grumpy, who is married to a Reamy descendant. (for serious researchers), one bright and early morning got stuck in the bathtub. Talking early here. And as the mother of new twins, I was taking advantage of the peace and quiet to snooze. I was rudely awakened to the sound of an angry, irritated voice calling, "Marsil, *&^@!$ come help me. Opened those lovely sleepy eyes but could not find anyone. Needless to say, the angry irritated voice continued yelling my name. I recognized the voice as the voice of Old Grumpy. I know it well-angry, irritated or otherwise. Being unable to go back to sleep due to all the noise that had penetrated my peaceful quiet kingdom, I decided to get out of bed and hunt this voice. I arose from the bed to see what matter was-there was Old Grumpy, naked, cold, shivering crawling on all fours into the bedroom. (Maybe I should have said unclothed-are we x-rated?) Okay, I laughed so hard that I woke the sleeping twins further irritating the strange thing on all fours. He has been irritated with me since that day. I will save the story on "How To Get An Angry Spouse Off the Floor Into A Bed" for another time. ____ Marsil in the Land of UFO's, Aliens, and weather balloons.