Hi Dan, Again you're partially right. There was a Z.B. Rainwater who served from Ms in the CW-CSA. However it wasn't Zebulon J from Ga. It was Zadock B.Rainwater from Carroll Co.,Ms who was md to Mrs. Hannah (Sarah) Montgomery.She had several children when she md Zadock. This is my territory now as I've done really extensive research in Ms because my John R. moved to Ms between the 1850-1860 census, and raised his family there. He is my gggrandfather. So far I haven't proved a connection to Zadock but his father was John Rainwater, who lived Simpson Co.,Ms. The Roster of Confederate Soldiers was a mis-print. On the index to Confederate Service records it's Z.B. Now, according to the censuses,Zebulon was home in Ga on the 1860 and on the 1870 he's in Decatur Co.,Tn. He must have been home sometime in between when the war started and when it ended, because he has a 7 year old Martha E. in the household on 187 I'm not sure just where this author got his information. I'm going up to Salt Lake Wed., so I'll make a note to check this out. If you get it done before,let me know. I'd be glad to find out if he did make a mistake when he extracted the information. You're right Benjamin F. doesn't show up again in any record. He would have been enumerated on the census even though he was in prison.I've found several enumerated in prisons and I thought "Aha,finally found a bad egg". It turned out they were guards. I'll close-let me know what you find. Glidie > From: Dan Bruce <dwbrucejr@mindspring.com> > To: grm <grm@castlenet.com> > Subject: Re: Fw: [RAINWATER-L] Zebulon Miles Rainwater > Date: Monday, April 05, 1999 9:15 PM > > Glidie, > > Oh, what tangled web we weave.....I'm tired of digging through confusing > stories in official documents, so I'm hopping in my time machine and > checking this one out personally.... > > Hard to say hoo dun whut.....Both men, Z.M. and Benjamin F., disappear > between the 1850 and 1860 censuses, and do not resurface. I didn't realize > that L.A. Thompson-Rainwater shows up as "widow" in the 1860 census, so > I'll have to go back and eyeball that one, and I believe the only way to > confirm hoo dun whut is to find the document that provided the info for the > executive order issued 15 Jan 1858 identified in "The Ga. Black > Book-Morbid,Macabre and Sometimes Disgusting Records of Genealofical Value" > by Robert Scott Albert to determine whether or not Mr. Albert got the story > right. > > Could it be that the Zebulon Rainwater that entered the GA State Prison on > 19 Feb 1864 is not Z.M. or Benjamin F., but Zebulon, son of the Blacksmith, > for a crime other than the murder in question? The plot thickens, eh?? > > I'm just teasing...I think not. The story on the Blacksmith's son(I > believe) during the time all this was going on is this: > > Zebulon B. Rainwater enlisted as a Private in Company D, 1st Regiment, > Mississippi Light Artillery, C.S.A. He was captured at Vicksburg by U.S. > Grant, paroled out of Demopolis, AL on 7/4/1863, deserted abt. 5/1/1864, > captured on 4/9/1865 in Blakely, AL and received at Ship Island, > Mississippi on 4/15/1865. I don't see how this Zebulon could have entered > GA State Prison on 19 Feb 1864, slipped out of prison and back to the war, > and then deserted 10 weeks later.(BTW, did you notice that I have this > Zebulon's middle initial as "B", not "J"? Military records....) > > The answer lies(hopefully) in the Campbell co., GA court records. Thanks > for the update, and it looks like this subject requires more digging. > > Dan Bruce > > At 07:36 PM 4/5/99 -0600, grm wrote: > > > > > >---------- > >> From: grm <grm@castlenet.com> > >> To: Dan Bruce <dwbrucejr@mindspring.com> > >> Subject: Re: [RAINWATER-L] Zebulon Miles Rainwater > >> Date: Monday, April 05, 1999 7:28 PM > >> > >> Hi Dan, > >> I just pulled my file on Zebulon Miles R. to check the information.This > >> is from "The Ga. Black Book-Morbid,Macabre and Sometimes Disgusting > >> Records of Genealofical Value" by Robert Scott Albert,Jr. (?) Also in the > >> same book is "Names from central register of convicts 1817-1868." > >> On page 158 # 43-it states "In Campbell Co on 8 Dec last,Zebulon Miles > >> Rainwater was murdered by Benjamin F. Rainwater.Issued 14 Jan 1858." > >> On the back of this page I've made a notation "Governors Proclamation > >> book 1854-1869".On Page 180-"Names and Aliases-Zebulon Rainwater, > >> #1975-entered prison 19 Feb 1864. Convicted in Campbell Co.,Ga" > >> > >> Could Benjamin have taken the name of Zebulon when he entered prison? > >> > >> I re-checked the copy of the will and your're right-It was written 10 Jan > >> 1865 and admitted for probate Oct Term of Probate court. (2Oct 1871), > >> However, on the 1860 census Zebulon's widow-and it states widow-is > >> in the household of Rev James and his new wife Nancy A. (?) Dobbs, > >> with her 2 children from a previous marriage. I can list them for you if > >> you'd like. (Campbell Co.,Ga-pg 57 (243) Fam # 413-GS#0803113) > >> Glidie > >> > >> > >> > >> ---------- > >> > From: Dan Bruce <dwbrucejr@mindspring.com> > >> > To: RAINWATER-L@rootsweb.com > >> > Subject: Re: [RAINWATER-L] Zebulon Miles Rainwater > >> > Date: Monday, April 05, 1999 6:06 PM > >> > > >> > Gildie, > >> > > >> > Thank you for the info on the two Zebulons, which can be as confusing > >as > >> > the two James (blacksmith and preacher). > >> > > >> > The Blacksmith was my ggggrandfather, so I have a fair amount of info > >on > >> > his Zebulon, although I haven't found anything on his middle name. The > >> info > >> > you have on this Zebulon is accurate. > >> > > >> > As far as Ben is concerned, Benjamin F. was dead in 1857 at age 19 or > >20 > >> > and single at that time. Since this was 5 years prior to the date of 10 > >> Jan > >> > 1863, I think it's reasonable that the Preacher would not mention his > >> > youngest son in his will. > >> > > >> > The issue seems to be Zebulon Miles's date of death. Since the Georgia > >> > State Pen records that ZM entered through their gates on 19 Feb 1864, I > >> > come to two possible conclusions: > >> > > >> > 1. As far as James the Preacher was concerned when he wrote his will on > >> 10 > >> > Jan 1863, his son, Z.M. was dead. Z.M. was convicted of killing the > >> > Preacher's youngest son, and there is a time period of 6 years between > >> the > >> > death of Benjamin and Z.M. entering the state prison, and I haven't > >seen > >> > any documentation on where Z.M. was during this time. I'm sure "life in > >> > prison" was not a popular sentence for murder at that time, and I > >> wouldn't > >> > be surprised if there was no communication between Z.M. and his family > >> > after his conviction. I do believe that Z.M was deceased prior to his > >> > father's death. Could it be that James the Preacher wrote his will in > >> 1865 > >> > instead of 1863? > >> > > >> > 2. The date of the prison record is wrong. I tend to believe this is a > >> less > >> > likely scenario. Sentences were handed out in terms of time, so one > >would > >> > think that keeping accurate records of when convicts came into the > >> prison, > >> > what their sentences were, and when they left prison was fairly > >> important. > >> > > >> > In either case, Z.M. probably received a death sentence which was > >carried > >> > out in the Georgia State Prison. Documentation does show that Ben F. > >was > >> > murdered, Zebulon Miles was arrested for the crime, and sent to the > >> Georgia > >> > State Prison. I haven't tried to look for possible trial transcripts, > >but > >> > that would probably be an interesting dig, and would possibly shed some > >> > light on this Rainwater family tragedy. > >> > > >> > Dan Bruce > >> > > >> > At 12:26 PM 4/5/99 -0600, grm wrote: > >> > >Hi Dan, > >> > >Rev James' will dated 10 Jan 1863-proved 15 Dec 1871 clearly states > >> > >his son Zebulon Miles was deceased. (Ga Will Book B-pg 58-FHC# > >> > >0499880) and leaves a bequest for his widow and 5 children.He does > >> > >not mention his son Benjamin F. at all.Another researcher who is a > >> > >descendant of James the blacksmith states that the Zebulon who md > >> > >Rhoda Eskew was named Zebulon Joseph R-not Zebulon Miles.He > >> > >moved to Ark via Decatur Co.,Tn.He was bn 25 Feb 1823 inSpartanburg, > >> > >SC. He died 20 Jan 1889 in Ark.( I made a mistake, Kay, in the message > > > >> > >I just sent you about his middle name being Miles) > >> > >Glidie > >> > >---------- > >> > >> From: Dan Bruce <dwbrucejr@mindspring.com> > >> > >> To: RAINWATER-L@rootsweb.com > >> > >> Subject: Re: [RAINWATER-L] Zebulon Miles Rainwater > >> > >> Date: Monday, April 05, 1999 10:38 AM > >> > >> > >> > >> MCar1310@aol.com indicates in a response to the attached note that > >> > >Zebulon > >> > >> Miles died about 1857, which other documentation seems to > >contradict, > >> and > >> > >> MCar1310 does mention some of the other documentation in the > >response. > >> > >> > >> > >> Documentation I have read shows that Benjamin F., youngest son of > >the > >> > >> Preacher, was killed on 12/8/1857. The Preacher's oldest son, > >Zebulon > >> > >> Miles, was accused of murdering Benjamin F. in an executive order > >> dated > >> > >> 1/14/1858 and Zebulon Miles Rainwater, convict#1975, entered the > >> Georgia > >> > >> State Prison on 2/19/1864 for murder. James(the Preacher) Rainwater > >> died > >> > >> around 6/22/1871, and although I don't recall if he indicates in his > >> will > >> > >> that Zebulon Miles was deceased, he clearly omits Zebulon Miles and > >> > >refers > >> > >> to Lilla Ann as parent to Zebulon Miles's children. My records have > >> > >always > >> > >> kept Zebulon Miles's date of death open. > >> > >> > >> > >> Dan Bruce > >> > >> > >> > >> At 08:16 AM 4/5/99 -0700, kay ohana wrote: > >> > >> >I was reading in this book several weeks ago and copied the > >statement > >> as > >> > >> >thus: > >> > >> > > >> > >> >>From The Georgia Black Book, The Rev. Silas Emmett Lucas, Jr.: > >> > >> >Governors Proclamation Book 1854-1869; In Campbell Co. GA on 8 > >> December > >> > >> >last Zebulon Miles Rainwater was murdered by Benj. F. Rainwater, > >> Issued > >> > >> >14 January 1858. > >> > >> > > >> > >> >Then on 19 Feb. 1864 Zebulon Rainwater from Campbell County was > >> > >> >incarcerated. (Note: Dont know what for. Was this Zebulon Junior > >by > >> any > >> > >> >chance?) > >> > >> > > >> > >> >One of us is mixed up or we read difference parts of the book. Here > >> it > >> > >> >appears that Benj murdered Zebulon Miles on Dec 8, 1857. I went > >back > >> to > >> > >> >the FHC to reread this portion of the book, and it is missing from > >> the > >> > >> >library! Since Zebulon Miles nor Benj. F. are of my direct line I > >am > >> not > >> > >> >going to research it further, however, someone should try to find > >the > >> > >> >original documents for clarification. Sometimes published > >histories > >> do > >> > >> >not always get the facts straight. > >> > >> > > >> > >> >Kay from rainy and cold Northern CA. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> >==== RAINWATER Mailing List ==== > >> > >> >To return to the list after being away on vacation, etc. just send > >> > >> >the one-word message SUBSCRIBE to: > >> > >> >rainwater-L-request@rootsweb.com. It's all automatic. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> Dan > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ==== RAINWATER Mailing List ==== > >> > >> Tell friends and cousins about our RAINWATER family. > >> > >> To get on the list, send one-word message SUBSCRIBE to: > >> > >> rainwater-L-request@rootsweb.com It's all automatic. > >> > > > >> > Dan > >> > > >> > > >> > ==== RAINWATER Mailing List ==== > >> > This list is not for political discussions, seasonal greetings, jokes, > >> > and personal causes. Please keep messages oriented toward genealogy. > >> > Listowner can be reached at: schimmel@northlink.com > > > Dan