Hi Annie, Thanks for the compliment- I've only been doing research for about 45 years now and it was learned mostly by trial and error. There weren't any seminar's or classes taught by anyone except on local levels-so we've come a long way. Right now I'm working on my certification (CGRS). Long slow and sometimes tedious, but rewarding. Yes, I've sent Robert Albert several packet's of information. I also have all the issues printed of "Rainwater Researcher" He used to live in Ventura but he moved to Bakersfield, just about the time the newsletter stopped coming. Barbara Rainwater (Lyle) says he has had a death in the family recently and to be patient. They're both from the same lines.Tn>Ark>Mo>Ore>Wn.I have a lot of their data.Aren't you from that line also? Thank you for the offer of copying, though. I appreciate it. Glidie