Hi Annie, According to her family Bible she says she was bn Scotland-not Ireland and she was real small-4-5 when they came over. It seems like people moved around and went farther then than we give them credit for. If they were anything like my husband (and he isn't even a Rainwater!!)-if someone moves in a mile from you, it's getting too crowded and it's time to move on. They just liked their space, and every Rainwater I ever knew had itchy feet. Her Bible also states James was bn in Lufty Cove (which is present day Cherokee, Swain, NC) There is a large Cherokee Indian Reservation there now.(Eastern Cherokee) Swain was made from Jackson and Macon Co.'s in 1871. Jackson and Macon from Haywood; and Haywood from Buncombe; and Buncombe (in 1791) from Burke and Rutherford; and it all goes back to Rowan Co.formed in 1753 from Rowan Co.----whew--where would the records be? Hope this helps some-if it hasn't thoroughly confused you. Glidie ---------- > From: Annie <zapt@cyberhighway.net> > To: RAINWATER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [RAINWATER-L] attn: Ron48@aol.com > Date: Sunday, February 28, 1999 7:21 PM > > Hi Ron, thanks for the correction. When will we get through wading in this mire of misinformation? My data says that James Rainwater b. 1791 was born in Cherokee Co., NC, rather than Richmond. Also, the stories Eli's granddaughter told in the Rainwater Researcher indicate that Katie McCall was b. in Ireland, not North Carolina. Here is a quote: "...I will take up James, the great granddaddy of us all. James Rainwater, born 1791, oldest son of William and Granny Cherokee, married Katy McCall, born 1795 in Ireland. Her parents were Scotch-Irish. She was 7 when they came to the U.S. Where they landed, I do not know, or why they came. They must have landed somewhere in the Caolinas as they made their way across country to around Cherokee. James and Katy were married (according to some records) in May 1809 in Rockingham, Richmond, NC. If this be true, she certainly was a child bride. She always said she was 13 years old wen her first child was born. He was Eli, my gra! > ndfather, born Nov 1811. My father remembered Katy and spent much time with her when he was small. She lived real close to his father, Eli, and was always alone. He always regretted that he didn't learn more about our people from her but he was too young to be interested. I too, regret that I didn't ask him more about things he probably could have told me. The thing that impressed her most was the ship and the sea and it being so rough. Guess she was scared. ...it would be interesting to know why they moved on to Sandy Ridge, TN. We do know that the Indians (Cherokee) had lived at one time all along the French Broad River, which is now Douglas Lake, and in the Smoky Mtns. Long after they had left the French Broad county and were making their homes in the mountains, they would come back during the summer and fish, make baskets and hunt along the river. Each year fewer and fewer would come, until they finally quit. Daddy recalled when he was real small and at his Gran! > ny's house (Granny Cherokee, William's wife and Katy's mother-in-l > with her and that he couldn't understand them. She could talk to them and he said it all sounded like grunting to him, and he was afraid of them. She told him they were from over on Lufty Ceek. This is what she called the big creek that runs thru the Indian town now know as Cherokee., NC and that she was talking to them about "our folk" and that they would not hurt him." > This all sounds pretty authentic to me. Family histories tell a lot. Annie > > > ==== RAINWATER Mailing List ==== > Tell your friends and cousins about our RAINWATER family. > To get on the list send the message SUBSCRIBE to: > rainwater-L-request@rootsweb.com It's all automatic.