Occured to me that I haven't sent any queries about the Sevier Co., Tennessee Rainwaters. My grandmother was Mary Catherine Rainwater, daughter of Jacob C., son of James. They eventually migrated to Washington State where she met my grandfather, D. B. Pettijohn. Woud like to hear from anyone descended from the Sevier Co. Rainwaters. I learned a great deal from the 1850 Census, and eventually compiled two families which I call my "South Carolina Orphans" (Rainwaters born in that state according to the Census, with no proof of parentage) and my "North Carolina Orphans". SOUTH CAROLINA: (added information in parenthesis) NAME BORN MARRIED SPOUSE DIED James Rainwater ca 1795 bef 1826 Mary (spoken of in family histories as "Jimmy the Preacher" - 1860, lived with Nancy A., 49. Father could be Burrell, Levi, William or Ben. His father's cousin was probably James, son of James & Nancy Miles b. about 1800 in Spartanburg.) ______Rainwater ca 1795 Martha Miles Rainwater ca 1795 Mary John H. Rainwater ca 1804/1810 about 1827 Francis Stewart, TN (1836-1 Nov p. 500 Vol I Judgement against John & Francis Rainwater 15 Dec 1832 Jefferson Co., TN Will Book 3 & sale book p. 500 note by John Rainwater due 1 Nov 1836. Some researcher say his father was R. Rainwater (1784) John E. Rainwater ca 1805 Eliza David T. Rainwater ca 1811 possibly Violet John M. Rainwater ca 1814 about 1841 Julia A. Georgia (school teacher) James Rainwater ca 1817 Laura Miles Rainwater ca 1825 Hannah Silas M. Rainwater(s) ca 1825 about 1853 Mary Alabama (his mother could be Nancy) Levi Rainwater (War of 1812) Elizabeth NORTH CAROLINA: Grace Rainwater bef 1745 Maschil/Maskell John Rainwater 1755/1771 Elizabeth (John was 24 years older than Elizabeth on census. 2nd wife?) Mary Ann Rainwater ca 1768 about 1792 Burwell Perry Elizabeth Rainwater ca 1769 ______Rainwater bef 1769 bef 1817 Elizabeth (she was listed as a farmer, age 88, lived with Susannah b. NC age 33)) William Rainwater ca 1774 1800 Martha Patsey Hodge Kentucky Moses Rainwater ca 1777 Miss Rainwater ca 1780 ______Rainwater bef 1780 Charity (Charity, a widow, lived with Burril and Anna Wright. He was 20 b. TN; Anna 24, b. NC. Who was Charity's spouse?) Abraham Rainwater ca 1784 (could be Gideon E. Rainwater's father who is buried Canden Co., MO. "Abraham and William were brothers and moved to KY about 1812". Russell Rainwater ________Rainwater ca 1785 bef 1850 Floy/Florence could be Ellis Miles Rainwater ca 1787 John Nelson Rainwater ca 1798 1827 Barbara Emert d. aft 1842, KY (This John Rainwater was my grandmother Mary Catherin'e great uncle on her father's side, as well as her mother's, having married a great aunt. But I have no proof of his parents names) ________Rainwater ca 1799 bef 1828 Polly of KY J. J. Rainwater ca 1820 abt 1844 Elizabeth of Mississippi (profession: listed as "Gentleman" - $150.) Any additions, corrections, or proof of parentage would be appreciated. Thanks, Ann Pettijohn Tomlinson

I just finished responding to a question posted to the Oklahoma board on the AOL Genealogy Forum and thought some of you might find the information useful. The question concerned where to go to find information about someone who served time in an Oklahoma prison early in this century. I have seen this question on various forums in the past and the answer is much simpler than most believe. All states have a Department of Corrections, Department of Prisons or similar agency that in effect operates all of the state's prisons. These departments maintain records that go back for years. Here in Oklahoma the records go back to the first person sentenced to prison after statehood in 1907, our prisoner #1. Many of the older states may not have not have records of all inmates who ever served time in their prisons, but they will have records going back many years. The records people at our administrative offices receive several information requests each month from people doing genealogical research. Generally, if we have information on the person we provide it at no cost to family members doing research. In Oklahoma we are restricted by law as to the information that can be released on a living individual, but basic information on crime, sentence, time period, etc. can all be released. If you make a request to a state corrections department, be sure to furnish as much data to identify the person as possible. For common names it is not unusual for us to have more than one person with the same name and birth date and of the same race. The county the person was tried and convicted in can often make a difference in finding the right person. If you are seeking information on someone who served time in Oklahoma Prisons, send me their name, date of birth, race, dates of incarceration, county of conviction, etc. and I'll ask our records people to research it for you. My e-mail address at work is acronr@doc.state.ok.us Ron Recer Edmond, OK

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------24312165E7F239ECC1FAFBA3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rainwater Families. Some time ago I did some checking in Arkansas. In and around scott county. It did not help me. Perhaps some of you might find something of interest. It is attached for your convenience Len --------------24312165E7F239ECC1FAFBA3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="Rain.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Rain.txt" RAIN.LST 1910 cencus Waldron area Arkansas FAMILY RAINWATER A.J. RAINWATR BENJAMIN WHITE B.11/1859 AGE 40 WHITE B.03/1857 AGE43 B. ARK. LAWERENCE CO. B. ARK CONWAY CO. WIFE CLEMENTINE W. DENITBID B.07/1861 B.08/1865 [D] MYRTLE 10/1883 [S] JEWEL B. 01/1886 [S]CLEVELAND 03/1887 [S] WILLIAM A. B.11/1994 [D] LILLIE B. 06/1888 FAM. RAINWATER ALFRED H. RAINWATER CCARLES WHITE B. 12/1880 AGE 19 WHITE B. 12/1876 AGE 23 B. ARK. LAWERENCE CO. B.ARK WIFE NEELEY B.01/1880 [W] BERDIE 06/1883 AGE 17 [S] WILLEY 07/1897 RAINWATER CHARLIE RAINWATER ALMA B. 06/1871 AGE 29 WHITE B. 08/1882 B. KENT. VAN BUREN CO. B. ARK. UNION CO. LIVING ALONE STEP SON D.M.LEWIS RAINWATER EBER RAINWATER BEDIE WHITE B.04/1827 AGE 73 WHITE B.06/1875 AGE 24 B. S.CARO. LOGAN CO. B.ARK. LAWERENCE CO. [W] SARAH B.02/1824 AGE 76 STEP DAU.J.L.PHILLIPS [D] MARTHA C. B.06/1857 AGE 42 [GS] WALTER B.01/1881 AGE19 RAINWATER EDMON E [GS]ROBERT 09/1883 AGE16 WHITEB.11/1850 AGE 40 [GS]LEANDRA A. 05/1886 AGE14 B.ARK. CONWAY CO. [GD]POLLY A. 08/1888 AGE 11 [W] SARRAN V. B.02/1845 [GS] DENNIS D. 12/189- AGE 9 [S] CHARLEY B.08/1879 AGE 20 [GD] SALLY M. 01/1893 AGE 7 [S] WILLIAM M.B. 12/1881 AGE 18 [GS] JAMES E. 11/1895 AGE 4 [S] SIMEON J.B.04/1884 AGE 16 [D] JOSIE B. 06/1888 AGE 12 RAINWATERS EDWARD [S] EDMON E. B.04/1890 AGE 10 BLACK B.12/1842 [D] ARKA D. B.01/1893 AGE 7 B. NO. CARO. PULASKI CO [S] MILES M. 09/1895 AGE 4 [W] AMANDA UN KNOWN [S] ARRON B, B.07/1899 9-MOS. [ST.S]FRANKLIN UNKNOWN [BRO] SIMMS ELI UNKNOWN RAINWATER ELLA WHITE B. 05/1830 AGE 70 B. KENT. CRAWFORD CO. RAINWATER EVA [D] JOSAPHENE 07/1870 AGE 29 WHITE B. 03/1847 AGE 53 HALF. SIST.NANCY ALLEN B.KENT. JACKSON CO SERVANT OF WILLIAM L PINEX RAINWATER ELMER WHITE B.05/1881 AGE 19 RAINWATER FRANCIS M. B. ARK LOGAN CO. WHITE B. 08/1840 AGE 59 LIVING WITH JOHN T. JOHNSON B. ALABAMA. LAWERENCE CO. COUSIN [W] NANCY M. B.11/1845 AGE 54 [S] CHARLES M.09/1885 AGE 14 RAINWATER FLOSSIE WHITE B. 11/1886 AGE 23 RAINWATER GEORGE B. ARK. NO RECORDS STEP DAUGHTOR OF J.M. LEWIS BOARDER OF C.M. MARROW 1900 RAINWATER G.W. RAINWATER GEORGE WHITE B.09/1850 AGE 49 WHITE B.12/1840 AGE 60 B. GEORGIA FRANKLIN CO. B. GEORGIA LOGAN CO. [W] AI F. B. 06/1852 AGE 47 [W] NANCY A. 12/1845 AGE 54 [S] LUTHER W. B. 12/1876 AGE 23 [S] La FAYETTE 04/1883AGE 17 [S] GEORGE 03/1879 AGE 21 [D] BONNIE B. 11/1886 AGE 14 [D] LRUA A. 04/1882 AGE 18 [S] CHARLIE W. 11/1888 AGE 12 [D]LOIS C. B. 08/1885 AGE 14 [D] BLANNIE J. 04/1890 AGE 10 [S] NORMAN 08/1`888 AGE 11 [D] LULA A. 04/1893 AGE 7 RAINWATER GORDON [S] WALLAS S. B. 061896 AGE 3 WHITE B. 10/ 1883 AGE 17 B. ARK JOHNSON CO. RAINWATER GEORGE F. SON OF MARY M, DUNN WHITE B.10/1862 AGE 37 B. GEORGIA ALA CH ??? RAINWATER HARRY [W] ELLEN S.08/1873 AGE 26 WHITE B. 01 1895 AGE 5 [D] BIDIA 03/1891 AGE 9 B. ARK. WASHINGTON CO. LIVING WITH BRO/IN/LAW RAINWATER H.T. JAMES K. LADD WHITE B. 10/1869 AGE 30 B. MISS. CONWAY CO. RAINWATER HENRY J. [W] PEARL 11/1870 AGE 29 WHITE B. KENT. PERRY CO. [S] CLAUDY N.09/1893 AGE 6 NO MORE INFO RAINWATER HENRY H. RAINWATER HOYLE WHITE B. 12/1866 AGE 33 WHITE 12/1880 AGE 19 [W] CELIA A.02/1858 AGE42 B. ARK. UNION CO. [S] ARTHUR O. 08/1881 AGE.18 STEP SON OF JEFF DAVIS [S] JOHN S. 01/1884 AGE 16 [S] WARREN 03/1889 AGE 11 RAINWATER HUDSON [D] IVA E. O1/1892 AGE 8 WHITE B.08/1884 AGE 15 [S] BENJAMIN H. 12/1894 AGE 5 B. GEORGIA CANT READ CO. [S] WILLIAM H. 01/1897 AGE 3 SREP SON OF J.M. LEWIS [S] WALLACE E. 12/1893 5MOS. RAINWATER J.B. RAINWATER HUGH M. WHITE, 07/1820 AGE 79 WHITE 08/1871 AGE 28 B. N. CARO. WASHINGTON CO. B ARK. LAWERENCE CO. [W] MARY L. 01/1875 AGE 25 RAINWATER JAMES [S] ALVA W. 04/1895 AGE 5 WHITE 04/1860 AGE 40 [S] EVERET 04/1900 1MO. B. KENT. PERRY CO. [MOT] GENNETIE 10/1838 AG.61 RAINWATER MELTON WHITE 04/1880 AGE 20 B. ARK RAINWATER JAMES A. STP.SON OF T.N.WILLIAMS WHITE02/1853 AGE 67 [W] NANCY J. 10/1844 AGE 55 RAINWATER J.S. [S] HENRY T. 02/1872 AGE 28 WHITE 10/1852 AGE 47 [D] LUCY J. 02/1880 AGE 20 B. GEORGIA FRANKLIN CO. [W] MARGARET 05/1986 AGE.44 RAINWATER JESSIE H [D] CORA 07/1877 AGE 22 WHITE 04/1900 AGE 1 MO. [S] FRANK O5/1880 AGE 20 B. ARK. LAWERENCE CO. [S] ZEB 09/1881 AGE 18 LIVING WITH JOSEPH REED [D] MAY 09/1882 AGE 17 GRAND FATHER [S] CARLYLE 03/1890 AGE 10 [D] ALICE 10/1892 AGE 7 RAINWATER JOHN WHITE DATE OF BIR. UNK. RAINWATER JEWEL B. ARK. INDEPENDANCE CO. WHITE 08/1898 AGE 1 B ARK. MONTGOMERY COUNTY RAINWATER LORANZA G. LIVING WITH JOSEPH REED WHITE 10/1870 AGE 29 GRAND FATHER B. ARK.CONWAY CO. [W] TOMMIE J. 11/1877 AGE 22 RAINWATER JOHN B. [D] MAUDE 12/1899 AGE 5 MOS. WHITE 08/1661 AGE 38 B. GEORGIA LOGAN CO. RAINWATER MARGARETE [W] TENNESSEE 10/1869 AGE 30 WHITE 03/1839 AGE 61 [S] ROBERT D. 08/1889 AGE 1 B. MISSISSIPPI [S] LOIS 04/1872 AGE 28 RAINWATER LUCY [S] NIGHT 04/1877 AGE 23 WHITE 03/1890 AGE10 STEP DAU. OF J.M. LEWIS RAINWATER MARK WHITE 1855 AGE 45 RAINWATER M.E. B. KENT. VAN BUREN CO. WHITE 04/1863 AGE 37 [W] SARAH 08/1859 AGE 40 B. GEORGIA LOGAN CO. [D] SARAH D. 03/1876 AGE 14 [W] LAURA 09/1872 AGE 28 [S] LOIE M. 04/1879 AGE 10 [S] CECIL 03/1888 AGE 12 [D] CARY 03/1892 AGE 8 RAINWATER MARY E. [S] IRA 09/1895 AGE 5 WHITE 10/1878 AGE21 [S] R.W. 08/1897 AGE 3 DAUGHTOR OF SHAWN SAMUEL RAINWATER MARTHA RAINWATER MILLER WHITE 12/1852 AGE 47 WHITE 01/1875 AGE 25 B. VIRGINIA B. ARK. [D] VIANA 09/1884 AGE 15 [D] MATTIE 08/1889 AGE 10 RAINWATER RILDA J. WHITE 11/1848 AGE 51 [D] CLAUDIE 03/1894 AGE 6 B. KENTUCKY MONTGOMERY CO. [S] WILLIAM 01/1872 AGE 23 RAINWATER OLLIE M. [D] JENNIE 06/1884 AGE 15 B. ARK. CONWAY CO. [S] JOHN 04/1899 AGE 11 ORPHAN LIVING WITH [S] REECE 07/1890 AGE 9 ELBERT S. SMITH RAINWATER R.R. RAINWATER RILEY G. WHITE 02/1867 AGE 33 WHITE 06/ 1846 AGE 53 B.ARK, WASHINGTON CO. B. ALABAMA LAWERENCE CO [W] SALLIE 11/1873 AGE 26 [W] NANCY 05/1848 AGE 52 [S] CLODE 03/1893 AGE 7 [S] CHARLES T. 02/1885 AGE 15 [D] PEARL 12/1895 AGE 4 [D] ALICE 01/1897 AGE 3 RAINWATER ROBERT E.J. WHITE 11/1855 AGE 44 RAINWATER ROBERT B.SO. CAROLINA WHITE 01/ 1852 AGE 48 [D] ALICE 07/1881 AGE 18 B. ARK. CONWAY CO. [D] EMMILY A. 03/1883 AGE 17 [W] MARTHY 10/1864 AGE 36 [S] JAD M. 03/1885 AGE 15 [D] NORA 11/ 1885 AGE 15 [D] EMERLEE 12/1886 AGE 13 RAINWATER ROBERT E. RAINWATER ROBERT P. WHITE 11/1871 AGE 28 WHITE 07/1819 AGE 80 [W] PURREY 02/ 1872 AGE 28 B. TENN. [S] RENEY L. 06/1891 AGE 9 [W] AMMA ??/1844 AGE 55 [D] MARY E, 05/1893 AGE 7 [S] HARDIN 10/1859 AGE 40 [D] MIRA A. 10/1894 AGE5 [D] EMMA D. 02/1899 AGE 1 RAINWATER SAMANTHA WHITE 12/1878 AGE 21 RAINWATER SAM B. ARK. MONTGOMERY CO. WHITE 05 1876 AGE 24 B. ARK CONWAY CO. RAINWATER SARAH R. [W] HATTIE 05/1882 AGE 18 WHITE 11/1835 AGE 64 B. TENN.INDEPENDANCE CO. RAINWATER SAMUEL S. WHITE 12/1858 AGE 41 RAINWATER THOMAS B. GEORGIA LOGAN CO. WHITE 05/1862 AGE 38 [W] SARAH 01/1868 AGE 34 B. ARK. [S] OZIA M. 09/1835 AGE 14 [W] DOLLIE 10/1870 AGE 29 [D] SARAH L. 06/1888 AGE 11 [D] LILLIAN 07/1886 AGE 13 [D] LILLIE E 04/1892 AGE 8 [D] ETHEL 07/1888 AGE 11 [D] DEWEY 06/1898 AGE 2 RAINWATER THOMAS RAINWATERS THOMPSON WHITE 10/1840 AGE 60 WHITE 02/1867 AGE 33 B. ALAB. INDEPENDANCE CO. B. ARK. LAWERENCE CO [W] ALVIRA 08/1846 AGE 53 [W] MARGARETT 06/1869 AGE 30 [D] MARY 02/1868 AGE 32 [D] BERTHA 07/1888 AGE 11 [S] CLAYTON 02/1876 AGE 24 [S] ROBERT O. 12/1890 AGE 9 [D] IVY B. 10/1885 AGE 14 [S] RILEY S. 11/1892 AGE 7 [D] MYRTLE 09/1887 AGE 12 [S] TERRY H. 01/1895 AGE 5 [D] LAURA 07/1891 AGE 8 [S] JUDD D. 04/1897 AGE 3 [S] ELMER H. 06/1899 AGE 1 RAINWATERS U.S. WHITE 11 1887 AGE 22 RAINWATER W.R. B. MISSOURI WHITE 12/1854 AGE 45 BOARDER OF SHERRY JAMES B. GEORGIA [W] C.M. 12/1854 AGE 45 RAINWATER W.L. [D] AMANDA 02/1883 AGE 17 WHITE 05/1842 AGE 58 [D] NANCY A. 03/1888 AGE 12 B.TENN. [S] WILLIAM A. 06/1891 AGE 8 [W] UNKNOWN 01/1859 AGE 41 ??? RAINWATERS WILLIAM RAINWATER WARD WHITE 11/1866 AGE 33 WHITE 12/1866 AGE 33 B. ARK. B. MISS. [W] ELLIZZABETH 10/1875 AGE24 [W] CORRIE UNK. AGE? 24 ? [D] MINNIE 05 1894 AGE 6 [D] MAMIE 12/1896 AGE 3 RAINWATER WARREN G [D] OLA 04/1899 AGE 1 WHITE 07/1863 AGE 37 B. ARK. RAIN WATER WILLIAM R. [W] NORMA R. 03/1878 AGE 22 WHITE 11/ 1895 AGE 4 [S] MIKRE 07/1894 AGE 5 B. ARK. [D] GRACY 07/1898 AGE 1 GRAND SON OF SHARON SAMUEL BRO. LEWIS 10/1871 AGE 29 --------------24312165E7F239ECC1FAFBA3--

I agree with Len. Let's restrict this activity to genealogical subjects related to Rainwater(s) families. Joseph B. Lambert At 03:55 PM 1/27/99 -0600, Leonard Rainwater wrote: >Search Group >It is just my openion. I feel that Our roots web should be used for >Genealogy. Not Political announcements . The best way to ruin A >good thing is to let it get out of control. Bob , It is your Horse. you > >will have to ride it .( You Decide what The Roots web will be ) > Len > > >==== RAINWATER Mailing List ==== >Send and complaints or suggestions >to the listowner: schimmel@northlink.com > Joseph B. Lambert Department of Chemistry Northwestern University 2145 Sheridan Road Evanston, IL 60208-3113 Telephone 847-491-5437 Fax 847-491-7713 E-mail lambert@casbah.acns.nwu.edu or jlambert@nwu.edu Webpage http://www.chem.nwu.edu/~lambert/ (best with Netscape 3.0 or higher)

1850 Census of every state and territory - Rainwater(s) (gathered some of wives names from other places) Alabama: Irwin ((27, day laborer lived with Jake & Eliz. Hyatt; Elkaney L. (Mary Burrough) 6 children; John (Harriett); John R. (Margaret); Greene (Hetty Hoyt): Jessy (2 children); Richard; Silas; Westley (Eliz. Martin); Miles Arkansas: J.B. (John Berry) (Mary P. Kifer) 11 children; James (Delilah Kifer) ...ancestors to zapt; James (5 children) John (Elizabeth); John E. (Eliza); John S. (Sanford) (5 children); Colin (Catherine); Hugh (Sarah) California: Malcolm B. age 28 Georgia: Abner (Eliz. Henry); Lander (Susan Freeney); Solomon (Nancy) 8 children; Allen (Nancy J. Lambert) 3 child.; Burrell (Elizabeth) 1 child; John M. (Julia A.) 5 ch; Levi N. (Hannah) 9 ch; Pinkney (lived with John Pritchard); E. (Eber?) & (Sarah) 14 ch; James (Apposley/Peasley); James E. (Mary) 5 ch; (minister of the gospel) Joseph (Caroline); 4 ch; Miles/Milas (Marry) 9 ch; Z or M (the uncle) 3 ch; Zebulan (Rhoda) (the nephew) 8 or 9 ch; Gabriel 5 ch; James (Susan); Wilkes; Elisha G. (2nd wife Donna Nancy); L. B. (Lacey?) and Thomas, ages 17 and 14 were coach trimmers; Martha; Simpson; Rachel; S.Y. (Sydney Y.) (Martha McGinnis; Illinois: Martha (had several boys); Matthew (Mahala Jane 14 ch; Thomas (8 yrs old, son of Martha); Sissum (Charity) Kenrucky: Abraham (Anna McClough) 8 ch; Bartholomew (Nancy) 13 ch; Daniel (Anna Whitaker) 4 ch; Elizabeth; James (Polly McDaniel) 12 ch; John (13 yrs); John (Elizabeth Lawless) 6 ch; Miles (Frances Chaney) 6 ch; William (Howard) & (Manerva, 1st wife Nancy Russell 2nd wife) 10 ch; (James) Henry Todd (A. Jackson) 3 ch; John H. (Frances) 6 ch; Polly Mississippi: J. C.; M & (Mary); W. H. (Amanda); Jane (age 17 @ John Black Residence); Wm. H. (Mary Bailey) 1 ch; H. C. (age 20 State Peniteniary); Zadok (Hannah Montgomery); J. J. Missouri: Amelia (age 4, dau of Joses below); Aaron (Mary) 5 ch; Enoch (age 21 @ res. of Jeremiah Leabo; Enoch F. (Catherine Remley) 3 ch; John (Barbara) 8 ch; Malcom (Margaret Artman) 6 ch; Mary; Moses F. (Eliz. Oliver) 7 ch; Daniel; Gideon (Mary Ann Hammonds) 8 ch; Richard Oregon: A.M. (Alexander Martin) (later md. Sarah Eliz.) South Carolina: Dicey (female) 8 ch; David T.; Joshua (Mary Peterson) 6 ch; Laura (8 ch with no parents); S.P. (Simon?); Stephen; Elias Tennessee: Catherine; Eli D. (Katherine Slover) 12 ch; Maston; Miles (Martha Proffett; Vincan (Margaret) 3 ch; William (Malissa Bird) 10 ch; Caroline (child of Vincan); Nancy; Francis (2 ch) Submitted by Ann Pettijohn Tomlinson zapt@cyberhighway.net Feb. 1, 1999

A downline Rainwater-related lineage that did not make the list. It has been posted in it's entirety. Bob Schimmel ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- From: "Joseph Senn" <COYOTE@vtc.net> Subject: death of John Whitaker Date sent: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 Hi, I am Rachel Sue. Lineage: Rainwater > Lewallen > Brown > Whitaker. John Raymond Whitaker; date of birth - July 8th, 1925 in Protem, Mo., Moved to Phoenix, AZ in 1930, died Jan. 16, 1999 in Grove, Okla. John's deceased parents are James A. Whitaker, & Purna mae Brown Whitaker. Living siblings, Fred (Rae) Phx, James A. (Jay & Marriane) Bullhead City, Ernest (Carol) Phx, Duaine (Pat) Denton, Texas, Bobby Gene (Diane) Gilbert, Rachel (Joe) Senn - Pearce / Sunsites, Arizona. He had two deceased sisters, Verde Mae Bird (Richard), and, Betty Jo Tidey (Eddy). Former Spouse, Reba Kelly. John's children: Eunice W. Milliron, Jon Whitaker. Present Spouse - Jean Whitaker. John's step children: Steve, Barbara and April. He was a champion roller skater, guitar player, singer / song writer, an avid hunter and fisherman. He loved to go camping. He loved to tell jokes. As a young man he went in the Navy from living on a ranch in Kyrene - a suberb of Tempe, Arizona where he rode horses, milked cows and other ranch hand duties. John's War record of ww11. He was in the Navy and was an electrican's mate. He was stationed in New Caldonia off Austrailia. Family members report he was on a mine sweeper. He was a third class petty officer. He was wounded in the leg, however the exact details are not known. When he lived in Scottsdale, Arizona, he was envolved with that communities Western Days for many years. He formed the first boy scout troop at Our Lady of Perpetual Help Catholic School in Scottsdale. He tried truck driving and T.V. repair, however he mainly built homes in the Phx area during the 25 years he lived there and worked as a a block mason and a masonry contractor. Even though he was always busy working, serving in his community, being a Father and Husband, he still had time to help his widowed Mother and younger siblings. He thoroughly enjoyed going to the family land, 'The Golden Hawk' at Lake Texoma, Texas where he would play his latest tunes for his adoring fans, his family, at the reunions held on the land each summer. He loved the land and was very instrumental in it's dedication to the family, as a permanent gathering place for all family members, including those who still honor their Metis (Mixed Cherokee) blood. He was raised to honor all ways and this he did. He lives in our hearts, our memories and, at 'The Hawk' this June, we (his family) will play his music and sing to him our thank yous for sharing his time with us while he could and we will plant a tree in his honor.. For all of this we remember John. For always making us smile with his wit, with his wisdom, with his words. We will honor him at every family gathering at 'the Hawk'. ...Dear sweet John, rest in Peace, your work is done. Our Lives are so short, we are all born, and we all die. For us, pertaining to John Whitaker, it is that dash between 'July 8th, 1925 - Jan 16, 1999' that is so important. That dash was what he gave to us. It was Himself. John was cremated, and his earthly self is at home in the Grand Lake of the Cherokees he loved so much. Blessed are the Beaver's who live in that lake for now they have help from the Golden Hawk, from 'The Beaver' himself, Tribal Chief of tribe number two: John Whitaker.

I agree with Leonard regarding use of the page. I am active in many political causes and appreciate and respect anybody who is willing to "take a stand". However, I feel these pages are not the place to present causes. Thanks, Dan Rainwater

Search Group It is just my openion. I feel that Our roots web should be used for Genealogy. Not Political announcements . The best way to ruin A good thing is to let it get out of control. Bob , It is your Horse. you will have to ride it .( You Decide what The Roots web will be ) Len

Dear family, We have family using water from the Colorado River, including our selves . Colorado River supplies Nevada, Ca., and Arizona with water. I am truly Sorry, didn't mean to offend anyone. Please disregard, just delete the message. Rachel Sue

Sorry everyone, We have family using water from the Colorado River, including our selves . Sorry, didn't mean to offend anyone. Please disregard, just delete the message. Rachel Sue ---------- > From: Leonard Rainwater <foxfire@tstar.net> > To: RAINWATER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [RAINWATER-L] Mwssage from COYOTE@vtc.net > Date: Wednesday, January 27, 1999 9:55 PM > > Search Group > It is just my openion. I feel that Our roots web should be used for > Genealogy. Not Political announcements . The best way to ruin A > good thing is to let it get out of control. Bob , It is your Horse. you > > will have to ride it .( You Decide what The Roots web will be ) > Len > > > ==== RAINWATER Mailing List ==== > Send and complaints or suggestions > to the listowner: schimmel@northlink.com

I just got back from a 'SAVE WARD VALLEY' rally in Juarez Mexico. The > government wants to put a NUKE dump 18 miles from Colorado River. It > envolves the five Az Colorado Tribes (called CRIT Colorado River Indian > Tribes) > Dear Family, > > following are Indian Tribes on Colorado River, > > SAVE WARD VALLEY. (NO NUKE DUMP on the Colorado River) > > > President Nora Helton or Steve Lopez > > > Fort Mojave Indian Tribe > > > 500 merriman Ave. > > > Needles, Ca. 92363 > > > 760 629-4591 > > > > > > e-mail SWV1@ctaz.com > > > Molly, 760-326-6267 > > > > > > Please ask how you can help. Tell them you have family in Ca. And Az. > > who use Colorado River Water, (Los Angles and Phoenix areas) Thats me and > > my family. > > Thanks again, Az. Coyote Rachel Sue (Rainwater) Senn >

In a message dated 1/25/99 6:35:57 PM Central Standard Time, hgentry@inetport.com writes: > I have been told that Lillian Lavinie Rainwater was the daughter > of Daniel Boone Rainwater and his wife Martha Quillen. I have also been > told that Lillian Lavinie Rainwater was Indian. She was born 6 March > 1879 in Birmingham. AL and was married on 18 July 1894 to Henry Overton > Cagle, as his 4th wife. This is all I know about this Rainwatr family. > Can anyone add to it, or refute it, or suggest further research? Thanks > for any help or suggestions. Emma Gene Gentry > The data I have indicates that Daniel Boone Rainwater b. 1844 GA d. abt 1900 (s/o James Rainwater and Apposley Cunningham) m1. Indiana --?-- b. 1839 GA children: 1) William B Rainwater b. 1862 GA m2. Sarah E Nix children: none m3. Martha Tuillin b. 1852 VA children: 1) Josephine Rainwater b. 1874 GA 2) Elijah D Rainwater b. 1877 AL 3) Lillian Lavinna Rainwater b. 1880 AL 4) Vianna Rainwater b. 1884 AR 5) Ollit Ozma Rainwater b. 1884 6) Mattie Rainwater b. 1889 AR 7) Claudie Rainwater b. 1894 AR I would be glad to send you a GEDCOM file of my Rainwater data if you want it. Let me know. Ron Recer Edmond, OK

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No, I don't know which family she's from. This is from Mrs. Ulery Stinson, 1015 So.Main; Columbia,Tn 38401. Archibald md 2nd Elizabeth Smothers. He died Todd Co.,Ky.Mrs. Stinson may have more on this family. Glidie

I have been told that Lillian Lavinie Rainwater was the daughter of Daniel Boone Rainwater and his wife Martha Quillen. I have also been told that Lillian Lavinie Rainwater was Indian. She was born 6 March 1879 in Birmingham. AL and was married on 18 July 1894 to Henry Overton Cagle, as his 4th wife. This is all I know about this Rainwatr family. Can anyone add to it, or refute it, or suggest further research? Thanks for any help or suggestions. Emma Gene Gentry Emma Gene (Seale) Gentry <hgentry@inetport.com> Austin, Texas

Aaron and Polly bn NC ,both age 30-40 1830 Todd Co.,Ky (GS#0007820-pg 379) His will admitted for probate 15 Mar 1849 (GS#0364611-Bk H pg 72) Logan Co., Ky. He had a land warrant for 100 acres on West Clifty Cr.Todd Co.,Ky which was surveyed 1 Jun 1826. (Bk T pg 409) If Aaron was in Tenn when the 3 oldest were bn, he would almost have to have been in Montgomery Co. The only Rainwater's there at that time was a William and a Nancy Rainwater.Since the earliest available census for Tenn is the 1820, there's no way to tell for sure. There is Robert Rainwater in Stewart Co., which is right next to Montgomery Co also. William is 45 and over with 1female under 10 and 1 female 26-45. Robert has 2 males 10-16 and 1female under 10, plus himself and Mournin (his wife) He's 45 and over and shes 26-45.Nancy has 1 male under 10;1 female under 10;2 females 10-16 and herself 26-45. The family seemed to stay around Logan Co., for awhile but eventually Polly moved to Hopkins Co.,Ky with her daughter Mariah A and her husband,Robert Curtis. John Harrison Stinson was the son of Archibald Stinson and Tempy Lassiter. The Stinson's were out of Bledsoe Co.,Tn.He and Caroline md 20 May 1842. Elizabeth md Samuel Turner 12 Dec 1850. James Henry md 4 Jun 1844 to Adeline E. Jackson. All Logan Co.,Ky. That's about all I have on Aaron Glidie

------- Message Forwarded by listowner from non subscriber ------- Date sent: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 11:17:24 -0800 (PST) From: Jarmgirl3@aol.com To: Rainwater-l@rootsweb.com Subject: Aaron Rainwaters Does anyone have a link to Aaron Rainwaters (1800-1850 appr.)?? He farmed in Logan and Todd counties in the commonwealth of Kentucky from a land grant in 1826 until his death sometime around 1850.He and his wife Polly had at least ten children: Caroline(1820) married to John Stinson James (1822) married Adalena Jackson Parks (1824) Phoebe (1826) married William Crouch Elizabeth(1828) married Samuel Turner William (1830) Mariah (1832) Mary Jane(1836) Isabella (1839) Susan (1842) Of course the dates are my best approximation and could be off a little. The three oldest children were born in Tennessee, but I do not know in which county to look . I would appreciate any information you may have run across on Aaron or any of the family members.I can't seem to fit him into the family tree puzzle and would love to find another lead! My address in jarmgirl3@aol.com

Pertaining to Hal Irving's message (below). He mentioned Silas Mercer Rainwater. From what I have been able to determine, Silas lived in Lamar/Fayette/Marion counties Alabama the rest of his life. The list of his children seems rather elusive. Anyone have a list of them to share ? Bob Schimmel ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date forwarded: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 13:41:45 -0800 (PST) Send reply to: "Hal Irving" <GenieHal@Worldnet.att.net> From: "Hal Irving" <GenieHal@Worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: [RAINWATER-L] Miles & Rev. James Rainwater Date sent: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 13:24:36 -0800 To: RAINWATER-L@rootsweb.com Forwarded by: RAINWATER-L@rootsweb.com Hi all, My records indicate that Miles Rainwater 1787-1826 was the son of James Rainwater the second child of John Rainwater and Mary Fussell. My file identifies his wife as Nancy Miles but expect that was typo error.....Miles was ordained a Baptist Minister at the Cedar Shoal Church in 1817. He owned several hundred acres along Cedar Shoal Creek. He and wife had seven children (record says): Mary; Miles; Milly; Vashti; Mariah; Silas Mercer; and Jane Amanda. Around 1835 Miles' widow, Nancy moved with her children to Fayette Co., AL This Miles was bro to my William Rainwater 3 Jan 1774 Surry Co NC to Jan 1825 Pulaski Co KY. Other siblings were: Solomon Rainwater 1765-1824 Elizabeth Rainwater 1769-1850 William Rainwater 1774-1825 Abraham Rainwater 1784-? John Rainwater dates? (2nd Company 14th Brigade Rifleman, War of 1812 Moses Rainwater no dates (Johnson Co Tax Rolls) Female Rainwater (perhaps Alcy who marr John Bowles, Bertie Co., NC Female Rainwater no dates....... Hal, from foggy Northern california!

Occassionally a non-subscriber will send a message to the list, but the Rootsweb computer re-routes the non-subscriber's message to me, the listowner. Rootsweb requires senders of messages to become subscribers in order to stop the hundreds of commerical SPAM advertisements which used to come from non-subscribers. After Rootsweb blocked the spammers, they tried to get around that requirement and started subscribing to all the various lists on Rootsweb. Rootsweb then had to install special software to filter out the mass- sendings of SPAM messages even if coming from a subscriber. Sounds very complicated -- and it is -- and please don't asked me how the software knows what is spam and what isn't -- I don't know -- but it's not for any of us to worry about. I have said all this so you all might understand a little bit about Rootsweb problems and their system for handling unwanted mailings. You will sometimes see me forwarding non-subscriber messages to the list as I just did for JARMGIRL3@aol.com. The purpose of the Rainwater list is to further research on the name. Obviously she is not sending spam, so I have let her messages come on through to the list. I also encouraged her to join our interesting little group so she could see replies. ALSO, another question has come up. ALL Rootsweb command messages such as SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE should be sent to rainwaterr-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com ALL messages are sent to rainwater-L@roostweb.com All the Rootsweb lists are standardized, that is, subscribe and unsubscribe instructions are the same for all lists. To subscribe or unsubscribe to the Rainwater list, address the message to rainwater-L-request@rootsweb.com To send messages, address them to rainwater-L@rootsweb.com Regards, Bob Schimmel Listowner

------- another Forwarded Message from same non-subscriber ------- Date sent: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 11:21:14 -0800 (PST) From: Jarmgirl3@aol.com To: Rainwater-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Benjamin Rainwaters Does anyone have a listing of the children for BENJAMIN RAINWATERS who was listed in the 1820 census for Spartanburg Co. SC.?? Has this family line been documented yet? In 1820 he was head of household 45+ years old and also listed a female his age. Other family members were 1 male aged 18-26, 1 male 10-16, 3 males under 10, 2 females 16-26 and 2 females under age 10. How does this Benjamin relate to the John Rainwater/Mary Fussell lineage? Can you give me any clues? Any help would be greatly appreciated. My address in jarmgirl3@aol.com