Hello Fellow Researchers! I was doing some work on my webpage tonight, and I am getting ready to archive my guestbook. Going through it, I see some inquiries on Rainwater's, with emails that do not look familiar to our group. If you have the time to browse, you might want to drop by and check out the guestbook, and see if there is any info there that might interest you! Since I am telling you all this, I will not archive it until this weekend. Regards, Lisa Rainwater <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/NRAINH20/index.html">Lisa's Home page</A>

Hi Gail....I have Family Origins and Family Tree for Windows...I think they would accept your data base. We could give it a shot anyway. What do you think. I certainly would love to trade info...what little I have. Looking forward to hearing from you.......and thanks for the offer. Regards, Nancy

Joseph, Yes, there is a Miles in James the Blacksmith's family. His oldest son was Miles Rainwater, born September, 1816 in SC. James the Preacher also had a son with the name, Miles. His oldest son, and second born, was named Zebulon Miles Rainwater, born around 1823. James the Blacksmith also had a son named Zebulon Rainwater, born Feb. 25, 1823. Appears the Rainwaters didn't want us to figure out which James belonged to which Rainwater family in SC. Dan Bruce At 08:53 AM 2/2/99 -0600, Joseph B. Lambert wrote: > This is an important and interesting question and would take lots of time >looking at census lists from many states. One significant fact is that >there never was a Miles Rainwater before Nancy Miles married James >Rainwater and had Miles the preacher (1787-1826). I do not know if all >Miles Rainwaters are descendants of this couple, but it is possible. Are >there an Mileses in the line of James the blacksmith? That would provide >another piece of evidence that he was the son of James and Nancy and >brother of Miles. > > Re Viney, there is a Virginia/West Virginia Viney family, and the name was >used as a female first name. It goes back to Andrew and Susannah Viney in >the early 18th century. It is an unusual name and hence easy to trace. > > Joseph B. Lambert > > >At 10:42 PM 2/1/99 -0500, BCTone@aol.com wrote: >>With all the talk on Viney, Vina, et. al., I was wondering if anyone had ever >>figured how many Miles Rainwaters there were? It seems that every Rainwater >>family had at least one. >> >>Paula >>BCTone@aol.com >> >> >>==== RAINWATER Mailing List ==== >>This list is not for political discussions and seasonal >>greetings. Please keep messages oriented toward >>genealogy. Listowner is: schimmel@northlink.com >> > >Joseph B. Lambert >Department of Chemistry >Northwestern University >2145 Sheridan Road >Evanston, IL 60208-3113 >Telephone 847-491-5437 >Fax 847-491-7713 >E-mail lambert@casbah.acns.nwu.edu > or jlambert@nwu.edu >Webpage http://www.chem.nwu.edu/~lambert/ > (best with Netscape 3.0 or higher) > > >==== RAINWATER Mailing List ==== >Send and complaints or suggestions >to the listowner: schimmel@northlink.com > > Dan

Paula, Seems there were quite a few Miles in every generation of Rainwaters. I noticed a few Melvinas here and there as well, which I assume the name Vina eventually came from. Dan Bruce At 10:42 PM 2/1/99 EST, BCTone@aol.com wrote: >With all the talk on Viney, Vina, et. al., I was wondering if anyone had ever >figured how many Miles Rainwaters there were? It seems that every Rainwater >family had at least one. > >Paula >BCTone@aol.com > > >==== RAINWATER Mailing List ==== >This list is not for political discussions and seasonal >greetings. Please keep messages oriented toward >genealogy. Listowner is: schimmel@northlink.com > > Dan

Gildie, Lavinia, or Aunt Vin, was married to Henry Cagle in Arkansas. I'm probably going to confuse things by mentioning this, but Henry passed away sometime shortly before the turn of the century, and Aunt Vin married again. Aunt Vin's second husband was Ulysis G. Walker, also known as Isa. Isa was the brother of John Bailey Walker, who married Vina Rainwater, Lavinia's sister and my great grandmother. John Bailey Walker was my great grandfather. Dan Bruce At 08:21 PM 2/1/99 -0700, grm wrote: >Hi Dan, >OK- that's clear. Now which one married Henry Cagle? According to Mr. >Wheeler, it was Lillian Lavinia. Is that correct? I agree 2 Vina's in one >family >is very confusing. However, I have been in contact with another researcher >and they have a Diana and a Deana in the same family. Verrrry confusing. >Glidie > > >==== RAINWATER Mailing List ==== >A Rainwater family database is being compiled. Also, >several list members specialize in certain States and >Counties. Need help/information? Ask for assistance. > > Dan

On Tue, 2 Feb 1999 17:45:10 -0800, Harold Irving wrote: >Hi all, regarding the given name Miles: In my line thru William 1774-1825 >who was bro to Miles 1787-1826 had a son Miles born 15 May 1818 at Faubush, >Pulaski, KY dying in 1887....a Son of William above, named Bartholomew also >had a son Miles, born 7 April 1836 at Pulaski Co., KY moving to Kansas and >later to California having two dau's dying without issue in CA. Bartholomew >also had a son Josiah W 1843-1934 who had a son Miles born 15 June 1876 at >Waterloo, Pulaski Co., KY dying 1956. Josiah's son Roscoe named his youngest son Clois Miles (my father-in-law) and one of his grandchildren is named Landon Miles. Josiah's daugher Cornelia named one of her children Miles Warren, although the last name in that case was Gaston. >==== RAINWATER Mailing List ==== >Send complaints, suggestions or problems with the >list to the listowner: schimmel@northlink.com

In a message dated 1/31/99 8:50:05 PM Central Standard Time, Ramona McManus <ramona_mcmanus@hotmail.com> writes: > Bob, > A co-worker bought a copy of a 1985 genealogy history written about her > ancestors. It was "The Joseph and Barsheba Thomas Webb Genealogy", > and traces their family to the mid-1700's. Mostly they are located in East > Tennessee. While browsing the book for my FORTENBERRY or HICE > family I found the following. .... > If any of the above names ring a bell, I do have access to the book for > more indepth info. Hope something is helpful to you. > > Ramona > The Joseph Webb you mention was a brother of Sarah Webb who married Samuel Proffitt. Sarah and Samuel's daughter Martha married Milas W Rainwater. Martha and Milas were my gggrandparents. Does the book contain info on these lines? Does it contain info on Joseph's ancestors? Ron Recer Edmond, OK

Hi all, regarding the given name Miles: In my line thru William 1774-1825 who was bro to Miles 1787-1826 had a son Miles born 15 May 1818 at Faubush, Pulaski, KY dying in 1887....a Son of William above, named Bartholomew also had a son Miles, born 7 April 1836 at Pulaski Co., KY moving to Kansas and later to California having two dau's dying without issue in CA. Bartholomew also had a son Josiah W 1843-1934 who had a son Miles born 15 June 1876 at Waterloo, Pulaski Co., KY dying 1956. William 1774-1825 also had a son William Howard 1814-? who had a son Miles born 21 Oct 1843 at Somerset, Pulaski, KY dying 29 Sept 1927. William Howard 1814-? also had a son John Raleigh 1841-1910 who had a son Miles Evan 1863-1941 at Casey Co., KY dying 4 Jan 1941 at Heavener, Le Flore Co., OK........may be more but time for dinner.....but the bottom line is that the Kentucky line of Rainwater also carried the name Miles over several generations..........Might be interesting to know just how many family members were named Miles.....Seems to me that I also saw the name Miles Rainwater in a Nevada phone book at one time. Hal, from sunny AZ

Hi all! Since Bob suggested repeating requests periodically, I thought I'd weigh in. I'm pursuing my wife's Rainwater ancestors. Her mother's maiden name was Rainwater and goes back as follows: Eva Louanna Rainwater is the daughter of Lauren Melvin (Bill) Rainwater and Dorothy Hazel Thomas. Lauren was born 30 Mar 1917 Drumright, Pawnee Oklahoma, Married 20 Aug 1937 McPherson, McPherson, Kansas. He may still be alive (I'm not sure). Lauren was the son of John Sanborn Rainwater (B 11 Jan or Jun 1885, D 1960 Norco, CA) and Della Ann Townsend (B 17 dec 1888 Natural Dam, Crawford, AR, D 5 May 1985 La Habra CA) I'm also interested in the Townsends, by the way. Lauren was the son of Robert Allen Rainwater (B 24 Jul 1861 Lees' Creek Township, Crawford, AR M 23 Feb 1879 Crawford Co, AR D 8 Mar 1953 Sapulpa, Creek, Co, Ok) and Katherine Wyatt Robert was the son of Maston Crawford Rainwater (B 18 Jun 1822 Jefferson Co, TN M 20 Jan 1844 Jefferson Co, TN D 25 Nov 1863 Crawford Co, AR) and Martha Jane McCarter. Maston's father was James Rainwater (B 1791 Richmond Co, NC M 1 May 1809 Rockingham, Richmond Co, NC D 27 Jul 1871 Crawford Co, AR) James served in the War of 1812. Boy, that's a lot! Anyway, that's the line I'm following. I've gotten a lot of good info from this group, for which I am very grateful! I'm especially interested in following any indian connections, and have gotten some as recent as Robert Allen Rainwater and his sons speaking Cherokee. If anyone has info, or would like what I have, drop me a line! Bliss in San Angelo TX

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_918000671_boundary Content-ID: <0_918000671@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII In a message dated 2/2/99 9:51:02 AM Eastern Standard Time, lambert@casbah.acns.nwu.edu writes: << RAINWATER-L@rootsweb.com >> I have in my Data Base that James the Black Smith Rainwater has a son named Miles Rainwater b. 9/10/1817 - m. Mary Blanschet, had 9 children the youngest was a Miles b. 1/22/1858. Hope this helps. Gail Tabor gggranddaughter of James. --part0_918000671_boundary Content-ID: <0_918000671@inet_out.mail.casbah.acns.nwu.edu.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline Return-Path: <RAINWATER-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-yb02.mx.aol.com (rly-yb02.mail.aol.com [172.18.146.2]) by air-yb03.mail.aol.com (v56.24) with SMTP; Tue, 02 Feb 1999 09:51:02 -0500 Received: from bl-30.rootsweb.com (bl-30.rootsweb.com [207.113.245.30]) by rly-yb02.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id JAA06617; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 09:50:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-30.rootsweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA08366; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 06:49:10 -0800 (PST) Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 06:49:10 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990202084624.009c0d00@casbah.acns.nwu.edu> X-Sender: lambert@casbah.acns.nwu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 08:53:15 -0600 Old-To: BCTone@aol.com, RAINWATER-L@rootsweb.com From: "Joseph B. Lambert" <lambert@casbah.acns.nwu.edu> Subject: Re: [RAINWATER-L] Re: Duplication of Names In-Reply-To: <64bad09e.36b67415@aol.com> Resent-Message-ID: <"n2iBi.A.rBC.kBxt2"@bl-30.rootsweb.com> Resent-From: RAINWATER-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <RAINWATER-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/187 X-Loop: RAINWATER-L@rootsweb.com To: RAINWATER-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Errors-To: RAINWATER-L-request@rootsweb.com Resent-Sender: RAINWATER-L-request@rootsweb.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit This is an important and interesting question and would take lots of time looking at census lists from many states. One significant fact is that there never was a Miles Rainwater before Nancy Miles married James Rainwater and had Miles the preacher (1787-1826). I do not know if all Miles Rainwaters are descendants of this couple, but it is possible. Are there an Mileses in the line of James the blacksmith? That would provide another piece of evidence that he was the son of James and Nancy and brother of Miles. Re Viney, there is a Virginia/West Virginia Viney family, and the name was used as a female first name. It goes back to Andrew and Susannah Viney in the early 18th century. It is an unusual name and hence easy to trace. Joseph B. Lambert At 10:42 PM 2/1/99 -0500, BCTone@aol.com wrote: >With all the talk on Viney, Vina, et. al., I was wondering if anyone had ever >figured how many Miles Rainwaters there were? It seems that every Rainwater >family had at least one. > >Paula >BCTone@aol.com > > >==== RAINWATER Mailing List ==== >This list is not for political discussions and seasonal >greetings. Please keep messages oriented toward >genealogy. Listowner is: schimmel@northlink.com > Joseph B. Lambert Department of Chemistry Northwestern University 2145 Sheridan Road Evanston, IL 60208-3113 Telephone 847-491-5437 Fax 847-491-7713 E-mail lambert@casbah.acns.nwu.edu or jlambert@nwu.edu Webpage http://www.chem.nwu.edu/~lambert/ (best with Netscape 3.0 or higher) ==== RAINWATER Mailing List ==== Send and complaints or suggestions to the listowner: schimmel@northlink.com --part0_918000671_boundary--

Hello List...I fall into the category of a 'list lurker,' (by choice). I don't have a lot to contribute, but if/when I run across something that might help I will send it in. My family dictates the amount of time I do research, as may by the case with a lot of researchers. So in an effort to participate...I'm sending what I have gathered. Rainwater is my husbands line...his grandmother being Sarah Alice (Allie) Rainwater. I've not confirmed any of the data outside of AR. Hope someone sees something that will strike a cord and help. Regards, Nancy Leftwich Essman 1.James Rainwater b: 1801 in Spartanburg Co SC d: in GA(?) ..+Apposley/Peasley Cunningham b: 1802 in NC d: in GA(?) ..2 Miles Rainwater b: September 10, 1817 in SC d: in SC ..2 Elisha Rainwater b: 1818 in SC ....... 2 Zebula/on Rainwater b: Feb.25, 1823 in Spartanburg,SC d:Jan.20, 1889 in Franklin Co AR ...........Rhoda Eskew b: October 20, 1829 in GA d: August 04, 1900 in Franklin Co AR ................3 Sarah J. Rainwater b: August 10, 1847 d: Oct.02,1872 ................3 Mary E. Rainwater b: December 30,1848 d: Nov.05,1889 ................3 George W. Rainwater b: September 18, 1850 in Atlanta,Campbell Co GA d: Dec,08, 1924 in Ft. Smith, Sebastian Co AR ....................+Alaminta Frances (Fanny) Benham b: October 06, 1852 in Wayne Co TN d: August 12, 1932 in Haskell, Muskogee Co OK ................3 James Samuel Rainwater b: October 02, 1852 Campbell Co GA d: September 19, 1927 in Mill Creek Mt, Franklin Co AR ....................+Mary Catherine Benham b: October 03,1849 in Wayne Co TN d: 1875 ..........................4 Charley Rainwater ..........................4 Sallie Ann Rainwater b: 1873 d: 1958 in Franklin Co ...............*2nd Wife of James Samuel Rainwater: ....................+Marget Jane Scarber b: May 17, 1855 in LA d: April 20, 1931 in Franklin Co AR ..........................4 Louisa Tekash (Cora) Rainwater b: July 16, 1877 in Franklin Co AR d: August 05, 1936 in Franklin Co AR ..............................+Blake Jones ..........................4 Benjamin Franklin (Frank) Rainwater b: March 16, 1880 in Franklin Co AR d: November 15, 1946 in Huntington Park CA ..............................+Ella Purdom ..........................4 Joseph Zebulen (Zeb) Rainwater b: September 10, 1881 in Franklin Co AR d: 1954 in Franklin Co AR ..............................+Ethel Beatrice Essman b: March 21, 1887 ...................................5 Nealie Rainwater ...................................5 Barlin Rainwater ..........................4 Nancy Maybelle (May) Rainwater b: September 15, 1882 in Franklin Co AR d: September 03, 1959 in Franklin Co AR ..............................+John Roland Hardin ..........................4 Viney Jane Rainwater b: June 16, 1883 in Franklin Co AR d: February 06, 1885 in Franklin Co AR ..........................4 James Corley Rainwater b: September 22, 1888 in Franklin Co AR d: January 21, 1889 in Franklin Co AR ..........................4 James Carlyle Rainwater b: March 16, 1890 in Franklin Co AR d: December 08, 1965 in Bentonville, Benton Co AR ..............................+Marie Hartzell Hollett .........................4 Sarah Alice (Allie) Rainwater b: October 04, 1892 in Franklin Co AR d: October 11, 1967 in Franklin Co AR ..............................+William Clarence Essman b: June 02, 1889 in Franklin Co AR d: December 26, 1985 in Boonville, Franklin Co AR ...................................5 Nita Faye Essman ...................................5 Ima Vesta Essman ...................................5 Willie Estelle Essman ...................................5 Dorthy Jane Essman ...................................5 Alice Hope Essman ...................................5 William Bradley Essman b: Dec.16, 1911 in Vesta, Franklin Co AR d: April 21, 1989 in Ft Smith, Sebastian Co AR .......................................+Muriel Angeline Plymale b: July 19, 1915 in Harmony, Johnson Co AR d: January 21, 1992 in St Petersburg,Pinellas Co FL ...............3 William R. Rainwater b: November 18, 1854 in Campbell Co GA d: November 11, 1900 ....................+Catharine M. Weger b: December 1854 in TX ................ 3 Nancy Catharine Rainwater b: May 12, 1857 in Campbell Co GA d: February 24, 1923 in AR ....................+Bethel Jacob Benham ................3 Melvina V. Rainwater b: March 12, 1860 in Campbell Co GA d: May 20, 1907 in AR ....................+George W. Jones ................3 Martha Ellen Rainwater b: July 01, 1862 in Campbell Co GA d: March 18, 1884 in AR ....................+G. W. Marshal ................3 Elliot Z. Rainwater b: October 10, 1867 in TN ....................+Hester Smith ..2 Eliazbeth Rainwater b: Abt 1826 in SC ...........+Joseph T. Hightower b: Abt 1817 Campbell Co GA d: Abt 1862 ................3 Annie Hightower b: June 1855 in Campbell Co GA ................3 Nathaniel Hightower b: 1856 in Campbell Co GA ................3 Joseph T. Hightower,Jr. b: Abt 1858 in Campbell Co GA ..2 John Rainwater b: 1820 ..2 Melvina Rainwater b: 1822 in SC ...........+Unknown Cotton ................3 Elizabeth Cotton ................3 Josephine Cotton ..2 Eber Rainwater b: April 20, 1827 in Spartanburg Co SC ...........+Sarah Eskew b: Feb.08,1823 Spartanburg SC d:Jul.1,1906 AR ..2 Nancy Rainwater b: 1830 ..2 Sarah Rainwater b: 1835 ..2 Reason Rainwater b: May 30, 1836 in GA d: 1891 in Yell Co AR ...........+Julia Britt ................3 Mary Clementine Rainwater b: 1857 ................3 Melvian Rainwater b: 1859 ................3 George Franklin Rainwater b: 1862 ........*2nd Wife of Reason Rainwater: ...........+Erlinda Jane Elder ................3 William Rainwater b: 1877 ................3 James Allen Rainwater b: 1880 ................3 Sarah Jane Rainwater b: 1883 ................3 John Newton Rainwater b: 1889 ................3 Reason L. Rainwater b: 1891 ..2 George William Rainwater b: Dec.1840 in GA d: 1919 in Haskell Co OK ...........+Nancy Parrish b: in GA d: 1929 in Haskell Co OK ................3 John Barton Rainwater b: 1861 ................3 Sarah Ann Rainwater b: 1866 ................3 Mary Ida Rainwater b: 1867 ................3 Isaac Martin Rainwater b: 1869 ................3 James Robert Rainwater b: 1871 ................3 William Daniel Rainwater b: 1873 ................3 Elmer May Rainwater b: 1881 ................3 Lafayette Atlas Rainwater b: 1883 ................3 Annie Belle Rainwater b: 1885 ................3 Charles Wilburn Rainwater b: 1887 ................3 Blannie Jane Rainwater b: 1890 ..2 Daniel Boone Rainwater b: March 10, 1844 in Campbell Co GA ...........+Martha Unknown AR ................3 Josephine Rainwater b: 1874 ................3 Elijah D. Rainwater b: 1877 ................3 Lillian Lavinna Rainwater b: 1880 ................3 Ollit Ozma Rainwater b: 1884 ................3 Vina Rainwater b: 1884 ................3 Mattie Rainwater b: 1889 ................3 Claudie Rainwater b: 1894 ..2 Rosannah Rainwater b: October 17, 1847 in GA d: 1914 in AR ...........+James N. Griffith d: 1912 in AR

This is an important and interesting question and would take lots of time looking at census lists from many states. One significant fact is that there never was a Miles Rainwater before Nancy Miles married James Rainwater and had Miles the preacher (1787-1826). I do not know if all Miles Rainwaters are descendants of this couple, but it is possible. Are there an Mileses in the line of James the blacksmith? That would provide another piece of evidence that he was the son of James and Nancy and brother of Miles. Re Viney, there is a Virginia/West Virginia Viney family, and the name was used as a female first name. It goes back to Andrew and Susannah Viney in the early 18th century. It is an unusual name and hence easy to trace. Joseph B. Lambert At 10:42 PM 2/1/99 -0500, BCTone@aol.com wrote: >With all the talk on Viney, Vina, et. al., I was wondering if anyone had ever >figured how many Miles Rainwaters there were? It seems that every Rainwater >family had at least one. > >Paula >BCTone@aol.com > > >==== RAINWATER Mailing List ==== >This list is not for political discussions and seasonal >greetings. Please keep messages oriented toward >genealogy. Listowner is: schimmel@northlink.com > Joseph B. Lambert Department of Chemistry Northwestern University 2145 Sheridan Road Evanston, IL 60208-3113 Telephone 847-491-5437 Fax 847-491-7713 E-mail lambert@casbah.acns.nwu.edu or jlambert@nwu.edu Webpage http://www.chem.nwu.edu/~lambert/ (best with Netscape 3.0 or higher)

Bob, Please unsubscribe me from the Rainwater list for the time being... Just too many kin and not enough time to handle everything at the moment. Perhaps later this summer when I retire.... THANKS.... I do enjoy it but just have more on my plate than I can handle and my mail files are becoming unmanageable for the amt. of time I have to give at the moment. Thanks Vivian E. Hull email vhull@aol.com

I found a William J Lewis age 15 in the household of Abner and Elizabeth (Henry) Rainwater on the 1850 Hancock Co.,Ga census. Abner is the next to youngest son of Solomon and Ruth (Felton) Rainwater. He was bn abt 1799 in Spartanburg Dist,SC. and md Elizabeth Henry 2 Nov 1826 in Hancock Co.,Ga. He died 18 Sep 1872 in Hancock Co.,Ga. Has anyone read the probate and land records for Hancock Co? That may be the only way anyone will sort out these families. Glidie

Hi Bob, This is what I've researched on Elisha Gentry Rainwater: He was bn about 1807 (age 43-1850) in Anderson Co.,SC. the youngest son of Solomon and Ruth (Felton) Rainwater. He md 2 Nov 1826 in Hancock Co.,Ga to Elizabeth Grant, daughter of James and Nancy ? Grant. Her mother was not a Sturdivant, though. Elizabeth died 26 May 1849 (age 38) *From the obit in the Christian Advocate-1822-1879.(a churchwide publication of the Southern Baptist Convention) Their children: 1-James Washington R.-age 21-1850 (you have 20 Feb 1828-died 3 Dec 1856) 2-Ira Simeon (Simpson)-age 20-1850(bn Ded 1829-on 1900 census) md 22 Dec 1850 to Nancy Smith. 3-Little Berry Moore R.-age 17 1850(bn Apr 1832)-trained as a "coach trimmer" md 1st Susan Ann Marinda Parker,daughter of Wylie Astin Parker and Elizabeth Carson. Susan was bn 5 Jun 1836 in Ga and died 23 Jun 1879 in Live Oak Community,Rusk,Tx.She's buried in Shiloh Cem,Rusk Co.,Tx. They had 10 children. "Berry Moore" died 25 Sep 1919 in Collin Co.,Tx at the home of his daughter and son-in-law G.W. Little. md 2nd Caroly (PETERS) McGUIRE. 3 children 4-William Thomas R-age 16 1850-md 16 Jun 1856 to Ascenath Wright. 5- Thomas R-1850 census he's 14 in household of M.L.Barrott training as a "coach trimmer" with his brother Little Berry Moore R.-age 17. On the 1860 Bibb Co.,Ga he's in the boarding house of Martha D. Morris and 18 more boarders and he's listed as "Marshall Rainwater" age 24 6-Marion Green R-bn 17 May 1838-md 22 Jul 1867 in Macon,Ga to Mrs. Jessie F.Saunders(shown bn N.Y.-age 21 1870 in Fulton Co.,Ga census) Their 2 children-Robert age 5 1870 and Lizzie age 2 1870 Elizabeth (Grant) Rainwater died 26 May 1849 and on 31 Aug 1849 Elisha G marries for his 2nd wife- Nancy D.Sturdevant. This is the way it's listed on the index to marriages Upson/Warren Co.,Ga. On the census she's listed as "Doney Mensy" and her descendants say she was called that. Their children; 1- Charles Allison R-age 9 1860, md 6 Apr 1875 to Cornelia Jane Veazey. 2-Cicero R-age 8 1860 3-Joseph H.R-bn Dec 1854, md 28 Dec 1875 to Letitia Williams 4-Almarine "Pink" R bn Aug 1857- md Cassie T.(Cositulla on 1920 census) 5-Mary R.-age 1 1860 I have families of most of the children of Elisha.Charles Allison R. who md Cornelia Jane Veazey is the Rainwater who was in the Coca-Cola Co.Their son Charles Veazey R. who md Blanche Brown Edmondson had 4 sons and I believe 2 were involved also. I have several articles on them. Glidie

Hi Kathy, I'm not sure if you saw the message I sent to Dan- He had mentioned the possibility of Susan being a sister of Pinkney Ferron R. and following is the mesage I sent him. Also, the Rainwater's in Cobb Co.,Ga before 1850 are the descendants of Solomon and Ruth Felton. It's very possible she was a daughter of John and Susannah as all their daughters have not been accounted for, by anyone. My message to Dan You mentioned Pinkney Ferron R posibbly having older sisters. Yes he did, > however Susan isn't one of them. I have been working on Solomon and Ruth > Felton Rainwater's descendants for the last year and have quite a bit on > them, > if anyone is descended from that line. I think this Susan is possibly one > of the daughters of John and Susannah R. of Spartanburg Dist. Even though > they are not listed in the final distribution, they may have already had > their > share of John's estate before they left SC. The first Rainwater I show > living in > Paulding Co.,Ga(on 1850) is Allen (bn 1814-SC) and his wife Nancy > T.Lambert.They have 3 children; John Daniel bn 4 Nov 1842-md Rebecca Linton > and died 19 Aug 1920.Samuel P. bn 1844, md 24 MAy 1861 to Sarah Lakey ;Mary > Jane bn 1846 and > md Robert Wesley Dison. It's very possible that he is her brother and > they've > moved together.The "Pinkney" name was prevalent after the RW. There was a > very famous commander by that name so a lot of little boys fot named > Pinkney. > > Hope I don't get anyone more confused. Hopefully, that's what this forum is > for. > To help us clear up problems. > Glidie > > > ==== RAINWATER Mailing List ==== > A Rainwater family database is being compiled. Also, > several list members specialize in certain States and > Counties. Need help/information? Ask for assistance.

Hi Dan, OK- that's clear. Now which one married Henry Cagle? According to Mr. Wheeler, it was Lillian Lavinia. Is that correct? I agree 2 Vina's in one family is very confusing. However, I have been in contact with another researcher and they have a Diana and a Deana in the same family. Verrrry confusing. Glidie

Gildie, Thanks for all the info. Correction to the info you got on Lillian Lavinna and Vianna. Lillian Lavinna was my great grandmother's sister, whom the family called, "Aunt Vin". My great grandmother is the one you refer to as, "Vianna", which was not her name. Her name was Vina, but my great grandfather called her Viney. Two "Vin's" in the same family can get to be confusing, but there was no "Vianna" in the family. The sister you refer to as Vianna was named Vina. I hope this isn't clear as mud now. Dan Bruce At 08:05 PM 2/1/99 -0700, grm wrote: >Hi Dan, >Sorry, I think you misunderstood me. I meant to say Viney was Lillian >Lavinia, >not Vianna who was another daughter altogether. I gave where I got the >information >from in the letter you forwarded about 6:30 tonight. It was from a >grand-son of >Lillian Lavinia who married as 4th wife to Henry Overton Cagle. I'm pretty >sure he's >from that marriage and not her 2nd husband as he talks about Henry Cagle in >his >letter. > >You mentioned Pinkney Ferron R posibbly having older sisters. Yes he did, >however Susan isn't one of them. I have been working on Solomon and Ruth >Felton Rainwater's descendants for the last year and have quite a bit on >them, >if anyone is descended from that line. I think this Susan is possibly one >of the daughters of John and Susannah R. of Spartanburg Dist. Even though >they are not listed in the final distribution, they may have already had >their >share of John's estate before they left SC. The first Rainwater I show >living in >Paulding Co.,Ga(on 1850) is Allen (bn 1814-SC) and his wife Nancy >T.Lambert.They have 3 children; John Daniel bn 4 Nov 1842-md Rebecca Linton >and died 19 Aug 1920.Samuel P. bn 1844, md 24 MAy 1861 to Sarah Lakey ;Mary >Jane bn 1846 and >md Robert Wesley Dison. It's very possible that he is her brother and >they've >moved together.The "Pinkney" name was prevalent after the RW. There was a >very famous commander by that name so a lot of little boys fot named >Pinkney. > >Hope I don't get anyone more confused. Hopefully, that's what this forum is >for. >To help us clear up problems. >Glidie > > >==== RAINWATER Mailing List ==== >A Rainwater family database is being compiled. Also, >several list members specialize in certain States and >Counties. Need help/information? Ask for assistance. > > Dan

Hi Dan, Sorry, I think you misunderstood me. I meant to say Viney was Lillian Lavinia, not Vianna who was another daughter altogether. I gave where I got the information from in the letter you forwarded about 6:30 tonight. It was from a grand-son of Lillian Lavinia who married as 4th wife to Henry Overton Cagle. I'm pretty sure he's from that marriage and not her 2nd husband as he talks about Henry Cagle in his letter. You mentioned Pinkney Ferron R posibbly having older sisters. Yes he did, however Susan isn't one of them. I have been working on Solomon and Ruth Felton Rainwater's descendants for the last year and have quite a bit on them, if anyone is descended from that line. I think this Susan is possibly one of the daughters of John and Susannah R. of Spartanburg Dist. Even though they are not listed in the final distribution, they may have already had their share of John's estate before they left SC. The first Rainwater I show living in Paulding Co.,Ga(on 1850) is Allen (bn 1814-SC) and his wife Nancy T.Lambert.They have 3 children; John Daniel bn 4 Nov 1842-md Rebecca Linton and died 19 Aug 1920.Samuel P. bn 1844, md 24 MAy 1861 to Sarah Lakey ;Mary Jane bn 1846 and md Robert Wesley Dison. It's very possible that he is her brother and they've moved together.The "Pinkney" name was prevalent after the RW. There was a very famous commander by that name so a lot of little boys fot named Pinkney. Hope I don't get anyone more confused. Hopefully, that's what this forum is for. To help us clear up problems. Glidie

Gildie, I didn't say that Vianna was Lillian Lavinna. I said that Vianna was Vina, and my great grandfather called her Viney. Vina(Viney) Rainwater(b. 1884 in Ark) was my great grandmother. Vina's name was never Vianna. I was attempting to correct your record for my great grandmother. I would like to attempt again to inquire where you got the information on the death of Vina's mother, Martha P. Quillen. I don't think any of the researchers related to Daniel and Martha have that info, so if you would share the source of your information, it would be much appreciated. Thank you. Dan Bruce At 06:00 PM 2/1/99 -0700, grm wrote: >Hi everyone, >I had to make a flying trip to SL to have "minor laser surgery" on my left >eye. I had cataract's removed on both eyes in 1997 and this "filming" just >seemed to creep up on me. Also the lens that was implanted has shifted >up and isn't where it's supposed to be. He will try to nudge it back in >place >in Mar. >When we got to SL last night, it started snowing and it dumped about 8" >of the wet, heavy snow, which makes it horrible to try to get around. It >cleared >off about 11am,then we came on home. We didn't get a snowflake out of the >storm at our place. (We're 2 1/2 hours southeast of SL) > >I tried to get on-line Saturday night but our server was switching over to >newer >digital modems and all lines were screwed up until late yesterday. > >The information on Daniel Boone Rainwater was from Mr. Marion Wheeler, >who is a grand-son of Lillian Lavinia who married Henry Overton Cagle. >It was sent in Nov 1983 and he had just retired and moved. The last address >I have for him is Route 9 Box 208D: Fort Worth,Tex 76179. Also, Jerry A. >Rainwater of Norman, Okla who is also a descendant of James (the >Blacksmith) >has done a lot of research on that line.His address is 300 Hal Muldrow Dr >#231 >Norman,Okla 73069. I'm not sure what he has on Daniel B. as he's descended >from Miles Ebe.Daniel is thought to have died and been buried in >Aly,Yell,Ark. >All I know is-he wasn't on the 1900 census with his family. > >Also, I noted someone said that Vianna was called Viney and was Lillian >Lavinia-no such thing-- they have 2 different birthday's .One was bn in >1879 >in Birmingham,Ala and Vianna was bn in 1884 in Ark. > >As I am sorting and filing,if I come across anything else on this family, >I'll put >it on-line,ok? >Glidie > > > > > > > > > >==== RAINWATER Mailing List ==== >Tell your cousins about our RAINWATER family >here on RootsWeb. To subscribe, send SUBSCRIBE to: >rainwater-L-request@rootsweb.com > > Dan