This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BE547D.2CD2A4C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ------=_NextPart_000_01BE547D.2CD2A4C0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "grm" <grm@castlenet.com> To: "Rainwater" <Rainwater-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: Fw: Re:Hugh Rainwater Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 23:11:57 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ---------- > From: > To: Rainwater <Rainwater-L@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re:Hugh Rainwater > Date: Monday, January 11, 1999 10:18 PM > > Hi Larry, > I'll give you what I have on Hugh and Sarah (Mary) West Rainwater. > He says he was bn in NC. On the 1830 census he is in Jefferson Co., Tn with his parents John and Mary (Cunningham) Rainwater. There are 2 males 15-20; 1 male 20-30 and 1 male 40-50; 2 females under 5;2 females 5-10; 2 females 10-15;1 female 15-20; and 1 female 30-40. Quite a family. > On the 1840 census he shows up in Jackson Co.,Ala-which is in the > extreme northeastern part of the state.In the household he has; > 1001100 males;100100 females,which means that he has another male > almost as old as himself in the house. The only other Rainwater in Jackson > Co at the same time is Catherine Rainwater with 3 females under 5 and > 1 female of 30 and under 40 (herself).Evidently her husband is deceased. > (GS#0002333-pg 20 and 21) > > Hugh and family is in Springfield Twp.,Lawrence Co.,Ark by 1850. The > census was taken 17 Nov 1850.(GS#0002481-pg335b; dwelling 625;family > 625) > Hugh Rainwater-age 36 minister-bn NC > Sarah " -age31 bn Ala > Mary M. " -age 14 bn Ala > William C. " -age12 bn Ala > Francis M.(m) -age 10 bn Ala > John M. " -age 6 bn Ala > Riley G. " -age 4 bn Ala > Elvera Lee " -age 1 bn Ala > > This would indicate that they moved in 1849 as the next child is bn in Ark. > > on the 1860 census they are in Black River Twp,Powhatan,Lawrence Co.,Ark. > more children; > Adaline J. -age 10 bn Ark > Sarah E. -age 6 bn Ark > Arasmas Jasper-age 6/12 (he's in the household with Abraham O'Neal) > > On the 1870 census they are still in Powhatan. with 1 more child. > Joseph Thomas-age 8 1870. > > Mary M-bn 9 Oct 1836-md Dr. Thomas J. Guthrie (bn 24 Feb 1818-died > 1 Jan 1903) 24 Jan 1856 (Bk B pg 160) She died 20 Jan 1917. > Francis Marion md Nancy H.Phillips-8 Dec 1865 (Bk C-pg 209) > Riley Gilmore bn 21 Jun 1846 md Nancy Oldham (bn 6 May 1848-died 15 > Nov 1913) he died 1 Jul 1918-md 25 Dec 1865 (Bk C-pg219) > Elvera (Elvira) md Mote Lindsey 5 Feb 1871 (Bk D-pg 104) > Adaline J. md John Cross 24 Feb 1877 (Bk E-pg194) > Sarah E. md Joseph L.Phillips 10 Oct 1879 (Bk F-pg 129) > Arasmas Jasper bn Nov 1859 md Clementine Gattiz (Geddes) 13 Mar 1884 (Bk H-pg 169) > Joseph Thomas md Dolly Combs 23 Sep 1885 (Bk H pg 336) > > Riley and Nancy are buried in the Holobaugh Cem, Lawrence Co.,Ark. > Hugh and Sarah buried in a family plot on the Jessie Craig farm-across > Flat Creek.Hugh was bn 18 Aug 1814 NC and died 18 Dec 1874 > Sarah was bn 11 Dec 1819 and died 3 Apr 1875. > There is a sketch about Hugh in the "History of Arkansas Methodism" by James A. Anderson c1935-pg 488-489. Estate papers for Hugh CUNNINGHAM in Richmond,NC showed the following: Hugh Cunningham died probably in late summer or early fall in `1857. In Jan term 1858, B.B.McKenzie, his administrator,petitioned the court to sell the land of his "intestate" (Hugh). The land was a tract of 250 acres in Richmond Co on the forks of Rocky Frok worth $1.50 to $2.00 per acre. The land descended to Hugh Rainwaters(sic) and the children of Mary Rainwaters, his heirs at law "who are not residents of this state." The court ordered that publication be made within the state requiring the defendants to appear at the Mar term of court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions on the third Monday in Apr to show cause why a sale may not be decreed. As the estate papers contain an account of the sale, apparently no heirs appeared to object to the sale.They probably never saw the advertisement in the papers and never even knew of their inheritance until after the sale. The information above came from Sandy Patterson (Mrs.Irvin V) of Lee's Summit, Missouri. I plan to check it out the next time I'm in Salt Lake, which will be the 15th Jan. I would like to find the final settlement papers for him. I have found the filing of the petition for probate for Hugh in Ark by his son Francis Marion . Hugh died "intestate" so an inventory had to be made of his holdings. (GS#1290718-Bk D pg 261). As I said, this is only the first paper filed, there are a lot more. His land:Hugh Rainwater;Vol.Ar0830.007 Land Ofc.Batesville, 30 Sep 1873. Doc.#7659,Cash Entry,;Part # 1:W NW. Sec 35 Twp 17N R2W -Part # 2:N SW,Sec 35,Twp 17 N,R2W containing 160 acres. There is (or was) a researcher named Edward T.Bearden,1257 W.Maple Rd Flint,Mich 48507 working on this line. I have several more I'll have to dig out also. Sorry about the last message-my computer blipped and I lost the message. (it got mailed un-completed.) Glidie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_01BE547D.2CD2A4C0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "grm" <grm@castlenet.com> To: "Paul Platt" <pep@platt.org> Subject: Re:Hannah Rainwater Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 01:06:50 -0600 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Paul, Glad to meet another Rainwater descendant. For a while they had my William md to Caroline Davis as they were both in Marengo Co.,Ala at the same time. Mine md 1823 and the other one in 1828. How much had Len given you of what I've sent him so far? That way I won't duplicate anything you may already have.I was just on the internet and Lisa Rainwater says that H.E. died in 1937 in Jones Co., Tx. I'm not sure just where she has gotten this information but I'll check it out as soon as I go back up to Salt Lake to the library.I have followed Ransom's 2 sons, William H and Thomas L down to 1920, which is the last census open to the public. I know Wm H. remained in Tx and raised his family and died there. Thomas L went to Ark., then to Okla.I've only followed 2 of Thomas's son's (He had 9 children-8 living).I plan to copy some things and send them to Len and I can send you a copy also. Just give me an address. My mailing address is P.O.Box 400; Sunnyside, Utah 84539-0400. My phone # is (435)888-0427. Do you want as far back as I can also? Len gave me the rest of William (1806) and Sidney's children in Ms and when he did I was able to solve another puzzle that I've been working on since 1979. I have about 30 family group sheets on the John Calvin Rainwater family in Wayne Co.,Ms. Plus on the 1870 census the 2 youngest boys are listed as "orphans" meaning their father was deceased but not necessarily the mother.(John Calvin and Benjamin Franklin "Frank" However, I cannot find Sidney on the 1870 census. Perhaps she md between 1866 and 1870. All the Creels seem to come from S.C.,Tn and Ala. One of John and Anna's children-William md Sabra Whittington whose daughter Lillian md Joseph Warren Sprinkle. One of their descendants is doing research on the Creel line. I'll close for now as it after 1 am. Let me know what you have already and I'll try to fill in as many gaps as I can. Glidie (Rainwater) Mobley ------=_NextPart_000_01BE547D.2CD2A4C0--

Ann, I don't believe any documentation has been found to date that identifies the parents of James the Preacher or James the Blacksmith. If you have a document or documents that tie James the Preacher to Ben and Sarah, I would appreciate it if you could point us in the right direction. Thanks. Dan Bruce At 01:14 AM 2/8/99 PST, Annie wrote: >According to my data, James, husband of Mary Polley Mason, was the son of Benjamin and Sarah. Benjamin was the son of John and Susannah (possibly Bobo, but not proven), who was supposedly the son of John Rainwater and Mary Fussell. > Ann T. > > >==== RAINWATER Mailing List ==== >Send complaints, suggestions or problems with the >list to the listowner: schimmel@northlink.com > > Dan

Hi Paula, Barbara Langdon published a book called"Spartanburg Marriages 1785- 1911 Implied in Probate Records"(975.729-V2L)This is in the Salt Lake library. I've been through all the Bobo's /Crossley's/Rainwater's and no connection shows up.See below: Man Woman File Lived Crossley_________ Vashti Rainwater 1668 1840 (dau of Miles Rainwater) Crossley,George Mary Floyd 2517 1858 Crossley_________ Eunice Bennett 2062 1860 Crossley_________ Christia Ann 3054 1887 (Christiann)Walker (I didn't get the women Crossley- I will when I go up next.) Bobo___________ Emma J Drummond 1557 1868 (daughter of Jared Drummond who died Oct 1874) Bobo___________ Jane Farrow 848* 1824 Bobo___________ S.Janey Hill 2685 1882 (*There are 2 files with the same #) Bobo___________ Sarah Jane (Janie) Hill 1994 1887 Z(daughter of Hilliard Hill) Bobo___________Elizabeth Hobby 1146 1837 (daughter of Zachariah Hobby) Bobo__________Elizabeth T. Pearson 2862 1870 Bobo__________Marey (Polly) Rainwater 1668 1840 (daughter of Miles Rainwater) Bobo,Absalom Elizabeth Fowler 2330 1843 Bobo,Absalom Elizabeth Fowler 951 1849 Bobo,A.P. Elizabeth Hobby 2988 1860 Bobo,Burrel Louisa K Drummond 2569 1859 (C.B.) Bobo,R.M. Peratine A Gordon 2495 1866 Bobo,Sampson _______Pearson 853 1850 Bobo,Sampson Elizabeth T.Pearson 330 1850 Bobo,Sampson Rebecca Woodruff 2777 1835 (daughter of Samuel Woodruff) Rainwater, James Polly Mason 1494 1825 (daughter of Francis Mason) Rainwater,James ________Miles 2476 1856 Rainwater,James Nancy Miles 848* 1824 (distribution of Jane (Farrow) Bobo's estate) Woman Man File Year Rainwater, Marey (Polly)_______Bobo 1668 1840 (daughter of Miles Rainwater) (my note- this was Spencer Bobo) Rainwater,Vashti __________Crosley 1668 1840 (daughter of Miles Rainwater) Bobo,Ascenath ________Winn 2777 no date (daughter of Sampson Bobo) Bobo,Elizabeth _________McClintock 763 1851 (daughter of Sampson Bobo) Bobo,Jane ___________Dean 442 1842 (daughter of Absalom Bobo) Bobo,Lavinia _________Woodruff 442 1842 (daughter of Absalom Bobo) Bobo,Luconda K _______Knight 1223 1869 (widow of C.Burrel Bobo) Bobo,Mary Ann William A.Todd 2777 1856 (daughter of Sampson Bobo) Bobo,Nancy Col.Z Edwards 763 1851 (daughter of Sampson Bobo-went to Cass Co.,Ga) Bobo,Nancy Zachariah Edwards 457 1818 Bobo,Nancy ________Kensler 2777 no date (daughter of Sampson Bobo) Bobo,Nancy ________Simpson 496** 1813 Bobo,Rhody _________Hobby 414 1830 (daughter of Burrel Bobo) Bobo,Sarah Daniel Woodruff 2278* no date (letter dated 1859) Bobo,Sarah (widow) _______Freeman 763 1851 Bobo,Sarah Daniel Woodruff 457 1822 This is all I have at the moment, I will get back to you after I go to Salt Lake. Glidie

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>The CD is a great idea, don't have very much to contribute, but definitely >would like to purchase them when they become available.>>> List members: I have received about a dozen messages similiar to the one above approving of the idea posted recently about making a CD of Rainwater gedcoms. There also have been others which were posted directly to the list. Basiclly, your contributed gedcom would be written to a CD by one of the list members who has volunteered his services. The disk would then be made available to anyone for the actual costs per disk/postage. BUT, do not start sending yet. The equipment has yet to be purchased and set up. We will keep you informed as to progress in this area. Bob Schimmel

---------- > From: grm <grm@castlenet.com> > To: Rainwater <Rainwater-L@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Fw: Re:Margaret Ann Rainwater > Date: Monday, February 08, 1999 8:59 PM > > Hi Annie, > This is a message I sent to Joni. Katherine's (Catherine) middle name > wasn't > Clay-it was Crozier.Maude Love, Harry L,May Bell were 3 of the 5 children > of Sarah Frances Asbury Rainwater and Christopher Columbus Petree.Their > other 2 are Charles C.Petree and Bettie C. Petree. NOT DeTREE as some > have on their records. I have a copy of Moses Fowlers Bible's family page. > May Bell Petree married Bertram Rainwater-bn 6 Feb 1879 in Independence, > Kan. the son of George W.Rainwater and his wife Clara E McClain. They > md 10 Oct 1904. > Glidie > > ---------- > > From: grm <grm@castlenet.com> > > To: Joni Yoakum <joni@knowledge-tree.com> > > Subject: Re:Margaret Ann Rainwater > > Date: Saturday, February 06, 1999 6:53 PM > > > > Hi Joni, > > I recieved a copy of your message that you had posted on Debbie > > Rainwater Anderson's web-page. I do research basically on the Rainwater > > line so Bob Schimmel thought I could help you. > > > > John Henry Yoakum was bn 29 Apr 1833 in Tn(both parents also bn Tn) > > I don't have a death date but he is buried in the Knoxville > Cem.,Knoxville, > > Ray, Mo.(I don't have his parents. sorry) > > Margaret Ann Rainwater was bn 2 May 1840 in Knoxville,Ray Mo and died > > 22 May 1900. She's also buried in the Knoxville Cem. She was the daughter > > of (Rev and Dr) Moses Fowler Rainwater and his wife Elizabeth Clay > Oliver. > > You have a list of her children.Margaret and John married 3 Aor 1859 in > > Livingston Co.,Mo (M515391-GS#0965985) (which means it was extracted > > from a microfilm of the original record by the LDS church) > > > > Moses Fowler Rainwater was born 18 Jul 1804 in NC. He married Elizabeth > > Clay Oliver (daughter of Charles Yarborough Oliver and Sophia Clay > Nunely) > > on the 2 Oct 1832 in Anderson Co.,Tn. He died 3 Jan 1886 inSt.Louis,Mo > at the home of his only son-Charles Cicero. > > > Elizabeth was born 7 Jan 1815 in Andersson Co.,Tn and died 18 Aug 1895 > > in St Louis, Mo at the home of her son Charles Cicero Rainwater. They're > > both bur New Hope Cem.,Ray Co.,Mo. > > > > Their children: > > 1-Juliett Oliver Rainwater-bn 3 Aug 1833 md 14 Feb 1850 to Joseph > C.Grimes. > > She died 19 Oct 1901.She was bn in Campbell Co.,Tn > > 2-Catherine Crozier Rainwater-bn 11 Nov 1835 (Campbell Co.,Tn) She md > > 16 Nov 1851 to Sebren Sneed Young (son of John Taylor Young and Louisa > > Jane Sneed-both bn Ky) He was bn 2 Aug 1829. They had 9 ch. > > 3-Charles Cicero Rainwater-bn 6 Apr 1838 Knoxville,Ray,Mo. He md 16 Sep > > 1858 to Sarah Hannah Fowler (bn 26 Dec 1838 Calvert Co.,Md-daughter of > > Samuel Fowler and his wife Mary Ann Eastwood) Charles died 10 Nov > 1902. > > They had no children. > > 4-Margaret Ann Rainwater(see above) > > 5-Sarah Frances Asbury Rainwater-bn 1 May 1842-md 7 Jan 1857 to > Christopher > > Columbus Petree. I have no death date for them. They had one > > child-Charles > > bn in Ray Co. They moved to Ore. > > 6-James Knox Polk rainwater bn 5 Jan 1845-died 5 Mar 1852 of pneumonia. > > 7- Amelia McPherson Rainwater-bn 8 Mar 1847-md 22 Dec 1864 to Joseph > > Richardson Pugh. She died 27 Dec 1909 in Kansas City,Kansas and is > > buried there.They had 5 children. > > 8-Mary Elizabeth Rainwater-bn 22 May 1849-md 10 Mar 1870 to John W. > > Pinkard. They had 3 children. > > 9- Alice Mansur Rainwater-bn 19 Mar 1857-md 8 Sep 1875 to # 1 Crawford > > Carroll. She md 2nd-William Sanderson. She died 24 Nov 1912. > > > > I have Moses Fowler's Bible record, also. This information came from the > > book "The Holmes Family Tree" by Charles A.Noel (pub by Closson Press in > > 1983. SL has a copy.Call # 929.273 > > H734n > > Hope this helps you some. > > Glidie (Rainwater) Mobley > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

---------- > From: grm <grm@castlenet.com> > To: Rainwater <Rainwater-L@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Fw: [RAINWATER-L] Rainwater Arkansas Reunion > Date: Monday, February 08, 1999 10:30 PM > > Hi everyone, > Does anyone know what happened to the lady named below? I posted > a couple of messages to her on line but recieved no response. I found > 2 Vida's in Ark-1 in the household of James and Clara (newlywed's with > young child) and 1 in household of Hugh and wife Lou in Imboden,Lawrence, > Ark. She gave no time frame to go by. Get back to us,please. > Glidie > > ---------- > > From: Winnie Bell <hwbell@mc2k.com> > > To: RAINWATER-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [RAINWATER-L] Rainwater Arkansas Reunion > > Date: Friday, January 15, 1999 1:18 PM > > > > Hello everyone, > > Just been listening and reading all the mail and responses since we went > on > > Rootsweb. I had previously been in touch with a few of you, namely Bob > > Schimmel, but had never made a good connection with my line. > > My Rainwater bunch ended up in Searcy Co., AR coming originally out of > New > > York and Illinois by way of a few mid-south states. Vida Rainwater is as > > far back as I have been able to go. I won't go into my linage right now, > > but if it sounds familiar to anyone, please let me know. > > I would also like to know where the Arkansas Reunion is held that Ron > spoke > > about. > > Also Joseph Lambert, how long have you been at Northwestern U.? I had a > > brother-in-law that was a professor there for many years, but left > several > > years ago. > > Thanks, > > Winnie Bell > > Bentonville, AR > > > > > > ==== RAINWATER Mailing List ==== > > Complaints/suggestions to listowner: > > schimmel@northlink.com

Hi everyone, Does anyone know what happened to the lady named below? I posted a couple of messages to her on line but recieved no response. I found 2 Vida's in Ark-1 in the household of James and Clara (newlywed's with young child) and 1 in household of Hugh and wife Lou in Imboden,Lawrence, Ark. She gave no time frame to go by. Get back to us,please. Glidie ---------- > From: Winnie Bell <hwbell@mc2k.com> > To: RAINWATER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [RAINWATER-L] Rainwater Arkansas Reunion > Date: Friday, January 15, 1999 1:18 PM > > Hello everyone, > Just been listening and reading all the mail and responses since we went on > Rootsweb. I had previously been in touch with a few of you, namely Bob > Schimmel, but had never made a good connection with my line. > My Rainwater bunch ended up in Searcy Co., AR coming originally out of New > York and Illinois by way of a few mid-south states. Vida Rainwater is as > far back as I have been able to go. I won't go into my linage right now, > but if it sounds familiar to anyone, please let me know. > I would also like to know where the Arkansas Reunion is held that Ron spoke > about. > Also Joseph Lambert, how long have you been at Northwestern U.? I had a > brother-in-law that was a professor there for many years, but left several > years ago. > Thanks, > Winnie Bell > Bentonville, AR > > > ==== RAINWATER Mailing List ==== > Complaints/suggestions to listowner: > schimmel@northlink.com

Hi Annie, This is a message I sent to Joni. Katherine's (Catherine) middle name wasn't Clay-it was Crozier.Maude Love, Harry L,May Bell were 3 of the 5 children of Sarah Frances Asbury Rainwater and Christopher Columbus Petree.Their other 2 are Charles C.Petree and Bettie C. Petree. NOT DeTREE as some have on their records. I have a copy of Moses Fowlers Bible's family page. May Bell Petree married Bertram Rainwater-bn 6 Feb 1879 in Independence, Kan. the son of George W.Rainwater and his wife Clara E McClain. They md 10 Oct 1904. Glidie ---------- > From: grm <grm@castlenet.com> > To: Joni Yoakum <joni@knowledge-tree.com> > Subject: Re:Margaret Ann Rainwater > Date: Saturday, February 06, 1999 6:53 PM > > Hi Joni, > I recieved a copy of your message that you had posted on Debbie > Rainwater Anderson's web-page. I do research basically on the Rainwater > line so Bob Schimmel thought I could help you. > > John Henry Yoakum was bn 29 Apr 1833 in Tn(both parents also bn Tn) > I don't have a death date but he is buried in the Knoxville Cem.,Knoxville, > Ray, Mo.(I don't have his parents. sorry) > Margaret Ann Rainwater was bn 2 May 1840 in Knoxville,Ray Mo and died > 22 May 1900. She's also buried in the Knoxville Cem. She was the daughter > of (Rev and Dr) Moses Fowler Rainwater and his wife Elizabeth Clay Oliver. > You have a list of her children.Margaret and John married 3 Aor 1859 in > Livingston Co.,Mo (M515391-GS#0965985) (which means it was extracted > from a microfilm of the original record by the LDS church) > > Moses Fowler Rainwater was born 18 Jul 1804 in NC. He married Elizabeth > Clay Oliver (daughter of Charles Yarborough Oliver and Sophia Clay Nunely) > on the 2 Oct 1832 in Anderson Co.,Tn. He died 3 Jan 1886 inSt.Louis,Mo at the home of his only son-Charles Cicero. > Elizabeth was born 7 Jan 1815 in Andersson Co.,Tn and died 18 Aug 1895 > in St Louis, Mo at the home of her son Charles Cicero Rainwater. They're > both bur New Hope Cem.,Ray Co.,Mo. > > Their children: > 1-Juliett Oliver Rainwater-bn 3 Aug 1833 md 14 Feb 1850 to Joseph C.Grimes. > She died 19 Oct 1901.She was bn in Campbell Co.,Tn > 2-Catherine Crozier Rainwater-bn 11 Nov 1835 (Campbell Co.,Tn) She md > 16 Nov 1851 to Sebren Sneed Young (son of John Taylor Young and Louisa > Jane Sneed-both bn Ky) He was bn 2 Aug 1829. They had 9 ch. > 3-Charles Cicero Rainwater-bn 6 Apr 1838 Knoxville,Ray,Mo. He md 16 Sep > 1858 to Sarah Hannah Fowler (bn 26 Dec 1838 Calvert Co.,Md-daughter of > Samuel Fowler and his wife Mary Ann Eastwood) Charles died 10 Nov 1902. > They had no children. > 4-Margaret Ann Rainwater(see above) > 5-Sarah Frances Asbury Rainwater-bn 1 May 1842-md 7 Jan 1857 to Christopher > Columbus Petree. I have no death date for them. They had one > child-Charles > bn in Ray Co. They moved to Ore. > 6-James Knox Polk rainwater bn 5 Jan 1845-died 5 Mar 1852 of pneumonia. > 7- Amelia McPherson Rainwater-bn 8 Mar 1847-md 22 Dec 1864 to Joseph > Richardson Pugh. She died 27 Dec 1909 in Kansas City,Kansas and is > buried there.They had 5 children. > 8-Mary Elizabeth Rainwater-bn 22 May 1849-md 10 Mar 1870 to John W. > Pinkard. They had 3 children. > 9- Alice Mansur Rainwater-bn 19 Mar 1857-md 8 Sep 1875 to # 1 Crawford > Carroll. She md 2nd-William Sanderson. She died 24 Nov 1912. > > I have Moses Fowler's Bible record, also. This information came from the > book "The Holmes Family Tree" by Charles A.Noel (pub by Closson Press in > 1983. SL has a copy.Call # 929.273 > H734n > Hope this helps you some. > Glidie (Rainwater) Mobley > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Hi Annie, Thanks for the compliment- I've only been doing research for about 45 years now and it was learned mostly by trial and error. There weren't any seminar's or classes taught by anyone except on local levels-so we've come a long way. Right now I'm working on my certification (CGRS). Long slow and sometimes tedious, but rewarding. Yes, I've sent Robert Albert several packet's of information. I also have all the issues printed of "Rainwater Researcher" He used to live in Ventura but he moved to Bakersfield, just about the time the newsletter stopped coming. Barbara Rainwater (Lyle) says he has had a death in the family recently and to be patient. They're both from the same lines.Tn>Ark>Mo>Ore>Wn.I have a lot of their data.Aren't you from that line also? Thank you for the offer of copying, though. I appreciate it. Glidie

Has anyone found a copy of the settlement of the estate of James Rainwater, Sr.? I would think that if one exists it would be a big piece toward solving the James, Miles, James puzzle. Paula BCTone@aol.com

Susan, I read that census not long ago and it was not Barbara on there. It was Balzora. Amelia and Permelia is a name that was used inter- changeably on the census and elsewhere a lot. Especially on the southern names. Milford was only married the one time. Did you record that all the family was born in Kentucky, with the exception of the last one? Also you have to remember all children up to Balzora were born before 1880. There is no 1890 census so we have to rely on the 1900 one. Balzora was the only child bn before 1880 who moved to Texas with them. All the rest were bn after 1880 and before 1900. I would say they made the move in 1893/94 as Julia is bn Oct 1895 in Williamson Co.,Tx.Would have to read probate records to find out for sure. Glidie ---------- > From: Susan Chance-Rainwater <scr@ncc.com> > To: grm <grm@castlenet.com> > Subject: Re: Fw: [RAINWATER-L] Milford E. Rainwater, 1849 - ? > Date: Monday, February 08, 1999 4:17 PM > > On Mon, 8 Feb 1999 13:45:42 -0700, grm wrote: > > Hi Glidie - > > Already got the census data and such. What I'm looking for is something that > positively ties these census records from Pulaski Co. & Williamson Co. together. > Other than Balzory/Barbara, none of the children from the 1870/1880 census > are living in the 1900 household, and the wife's name is different. I *believe* these > are the same family, but cannot presently prove it. > > Thanks for the marriage info. There were some I did not have for Milford's > children. > > Best, > Susan > > >Milford E. R. is the son of Daniel M.Rainwater and his wife Ann Whitaker. > > > >Daniel was bn 10 Nov 1828-the son of Bartholomew and Nancy (McLaughlin) > >Rainwater.He was the 3rd child out of 12 children. Daniel M md Ann Whitaker > >14 Dec 1848 in Pulaski Co.Ky.Ann was bn Mar 1829. > >Their children: > >1-Milford E-bn Aug 1849;md 24 Oct 1867 to Permelia Ann Garner (Amelia > > on 1900 census)They had 11 children. > >2-Polly Jane-age 9 1860 > >3-Sarah E-age 7 1860 md 10 Aug 1876 to Alex Hunley > >4-Lucy Ann-age 4 1860 md 6 Jan 1876 to James C. Hammond > >5-Anderson Warren-bn Jul 1862-md 10 Aug 1881 to Mary J. Morris > >6-Bartholomew-age 6-1870 md 1st 30 Apr 1885 to Elizabeth Dause > >7-(m)Francis M. age 2 1870 md Amanda > >8-Palmira-age 9 1880 > >9-Elzira-age 9 1880 > >10 Terrel-age 2 1880 > > > >Milford E and Permelia Ellen had the following children; > >1-Josiah D.(Joseph) age 2 1870 md 6 May 1888 to Dorettie E.Wood > >2-John L-age 9 1880 > >3-George W.-age 6 1880 > >4-Mary E.-age 3 1880 > >5-Balzary M.-age 10/12 1880 (bn Jul 1879) > >6-Amelia J.-bn Apr 1882- > >7-James (Joey)-bn Mar 1884 > >8-Sarah-bn Nov 1885 > >9-Nannie-bn Jan 1888 > >10-Claudie-bn Dec 1889 > >11-Julia -bn Oct 1895 in Texas* > > > >** all the others were bn Pulaski Co.,Ky > >Glidie > > > > > >> > >> In the 1870 & 1880 Pulaski Co., KY census, there is a family headed by > >Milford >> E. Rainwater consisting of the following: > >> Milford E., Permelia Ellen, Josiah D. John L. George W., Mary E., > >Balzory M. > >> > >> In 1900, Williamson Co., TX there is an eriely similar family, headed by > >Milford > >> E. Rainwater, but none of the names quite match: > >> Milford E., Ceceila S., Barbara, Cecelia J., James, Sarah, Nannie, > >Claudia, > >> Julia. > >> > >> Barbara is the right age to be Balzory M, and the name Permelia could > >easily be > >> mistaken for Cecelia. The remainder of the children would have been born > >> after 1880. All the members of the household were born in KY, except > >Julia, > >> which means they moved to Texas between 1890 and 1896. > >> > >> So my question is - does anyone know if these are the same family? > >> > >> Susan > >> > >> > >> > >> ==== RAINWATER Mailing List ==== > >> Send and complaints or suggestions > >> to the listowner: schimmel@northlink.com > > > > > >==== RAINWATER Mailing List ==== > >Send complaints, suggestions or problems with the > >list to the listowner: schimmel@northlink.com > >

Hi Susan, Milford E. R. is the son of Daniel M.Rainwater and his wife Ann Whitaker. Daniel was bn 10 Nov 1828-the son of Bartholomew and Nancy (McLaughlin) Rainwater.He was the 3rd child out of 12 children. Daniel M md Ann Whitaker 14 Dec 1848 in Pulaski Co.Ky.Ann was bn Mar 1829. Their children: 1-Milford E-bn Aug 1849;md 24 Oct 1867 to Permelia Ann Garner (Amelia on 1900 census)They had 11 children. 2-Polly Jane-age 9 1860 3-Sarah E-age 7 1860 md 10 Aug 1876 to Alex Hunley 4-Lucy Ann-age 4 1860 md 6 Jan 1876 to James C. Hammond 5-Anderson Warren-bn Jul 1862-md 10 Aug 1881 to Mary J. Morris 6-Bartholomew-age 6-1870 md 1st 30 Apr 1885 to Elizabeth Dause 7-(m)Francis M. age 2 1870 md Amanda 8-Palmira-age 9 1880 9-Elzira-age 9 1880 10 Terrel-age 2 1880 Milford E and Permelia Ellen had the following children; 1-Josiah D.(Joseph) age 2 1870 md 6 May 1888 to Dorettie E.Wood 2-John L-age 9 1880 3-George W.-age 6 1880 4-Mary E.-age 3 1880 5-Balzary M.-age 10/12 1880 (bn Jul 1879) 6-Amelia J.-bn Apr 1882- 7-James (Joey)-bn Mar 1884 8-Sarah-bn Nov 1885 9-Nannie-bn Jan 1888 10-Claudie-bn Dec 1889 11-Julia -bn Oct 1895 in Texas* ** all the others were bn Pulaski Co.,Ky Glidie ---------- > From: Susan Chance-Rainwater <scr@ncc.com> > To: RAINWATER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [RAINWATER-L] Milford E. Rainwater, 1849 - ? > Date: Monday, February 08, 1999 8:02 AM > > > In the 1870 & 1880 Pulaski Co., KY census, there is a family headed by Milford > E. Rainwater consisting of the following: > Milford E., Permelia Ellen, Josiah D. John L. George W., Mary E., Balzory M. > > In 1900, Williamson Co., TX there is an eriely similar family, headed by Milford > E. Rainwater, but none of the names quite match: > Milford E., Ceceila S., Barbara, Cecelia J., James, Sarah, Nannie, Claudia, > Julia. > > Barbara is the right age to be Balzory M, and the name Permelia could easily be > mistaken for Cecelia. The remainder of the children would have been born > after 1880. All the members of the household were born in KY, except Julia, > which means they moved to Texas between 1890 and 1896. > > So my question is - does anyone know if these are the same family? > > Susan > > > > ==== RAINWATER Mailing List ==== > Send and complaints or suggestions > to the listowner: schimmel@northlink.com

Christine, I'll try to help but I need to know more than you've given me. Francis Asbury R. was the son of Vincent R and his wife Margaret ?.Haven't found out her name yet. Where were your Lassiter's at and what were their names? I need some names and dates and at least a state where they were. Glidie ---------- > From: CGENIE1@aol.com > To: grm@castlenet.com > Subject: Re: Fw: [RAINWATER-L] Fwd: Family > Date: Monday, February 08, 1999 2:25 AM > > Hi Glidie, > > I am interested in the name Francis Asbury Rainwater...My family surname > Lassiter was supposed to be related somehow to the Rainwaters. I do not know > through who. What I find interesting is that we have a Francis Asbury > Lassiter. He was born in 1838, either in McNairy Co. Tenn. or Tippah Co. > Mississippi, the son of Jesse and Mary Lassiter. > > I don't know if there is any connection here but it does seem strange about > the name, and the fact that Rainwater's (not sure who) are supposed to be > related to us somehow. > > Christine > cgenie@aol.com

In the 1870 & 1880 Pulaski Co., KY census, there is a family headed by Milford E. Rainwater consisting of the following: Milford E., Permelia Ellen, Josiah D. John L. George W., Mary E., Balzory M. In 1900, Williamson Co., TX there is an eriely similar family, headed by Milford E. Rainwater, but none of the names quite match: Milford E., Ceceila S., Barbara, Cecelia J., James, Sarah, Nannie, Claudia, Julia. Barbara is the right age to be Balzory M, and the name Permelia could easily be mistaken for Cecelia. The remainder of the children would have been born after 1880. All the members of the household were born in KY, except Julia, which means they moved to Texas between 1890 and 1896. So my question is - does anyone know if these are the same family? Susan

Hi Janas, The obituary for Charlie J. Rainwater appeared in the Baldwin New Herald on 23 Jan 1947. It says he was born 4 Mar 1863 in Greene Co Ms.(The 1900 census says he was bn Jan 1872 and Julia Henrietta Still (Steele) was bn May 1875. The children- James-bn Apr 1896 and May bn Oct 1897. Also in the household is Esther Stills-bn June 1845. It states that they've been married 5 years: had 5 children but only 2 living. They married 6 Sep 1894. On the 1910 census Charles is age 35; Julia Henrietta is age 33. Joseph (James) is age 12;Mary (May) is age 10;Molly is age 8;Maggie is age 6. On the 1920 Charles is listed as James C. age 48;Julia H is listed as age 42; Eliza is age 21;Ida (Mary ?) is age 20; Lilly E.(Molly) is age 18; Myrtle is 13; and Nola is age 10. The obituary mentions that they had 8 children-7 daughters and 1 son. Julia; the son and 1 daughter died before him. He died 15 Jan 1947 and was buried 18 Jan in the Elberta Cem. Arrangements were in charge of Troyer Funeral Home. If you wrote to them, they would probably send you the obituaries on the other members of his family who had died.Can you send me your information so I can add it to this family record? Glidie -------- > From: JANASM@aol.comJan > To: RAINWATER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [RAINWATER-L] Fwd: Rainwater > Date: Friday, January 15, 1999 1:41 PM > > My line (as far as I have been able to trace) only goes back to my > gGrandparents. my Mother was not raised with her Mother and therefore, that > complicates matters a great deal. > My Grandmother was Vivian Erma Rainwater and she died in Escambia County, Fl. > She was born in Leakesville, Greene County, Miss. > Her parents were Charley Rainwater and Julia H. Still. I have found where they > were married in Miss., Greene County on Sept. 6, 1894 > They are buried in Elberta, Baldwin County, Al.( I did get to go and look > through this cemetary, although they have no markers, I went to the Town Hall > and they verified that both were buried here.) > I have NO further information and if this line looks familiar to anyone , > please let me know. I have no other leads to go on at this moment. > Thank you all, > Janas > Janasm@AOL.com > > --part0_916432899_boundary-- > > > ==== RAINWATER Mailing List ==== > Complaints/suggestions to listowner: > schimmel@northlink.com

Hi Barbie, I think I've already answered someone on this family but I'll be glad to repeat it for you. John Lysander Rainwater was born 11 Nov 1877 and died 9 Feb 1961. He was married to Hester Ann Nicholson !!! not Nicholls. She was bn 3 Mar 1883 and died 19 Feb 1920, evidently during the big flu epidemic. They are both bur in Union Grove Cem Wayne Co.,Mo John Lysander was the son of Christopher C.and Jane (Hale) Rainwater. Christopher was age 5 on the 1860 census bn Wayne Co.,Mo. He was the 6th child and 3rd son of Francis Asbury and Sarah "Sallie" (Moore) Rainwater. I don't have a marriage date for Christopher and Jane,nor can I find more than the 1 son-John L.Surely there are more. He was bn just before the 1880 census-there is no 1890 census and by the 1900 John is in household of George W. listed as "nephew" Francis and Sallie had 10 known children and 1 that's questionable- the last or 11th one-named Obediah bn 1890(the next child up is bn 1869. Francis was the son of Vincent Rainwater and his wife Margaret___? Vincent is a brother to the James who married Catherine McCall. Hope this helps you some. Glidie ---------- > From: NRAINH20@aol.com > To: RAINWATER-L@rootsweb.com Does anyone have this line that can help this lady out?? > > Thanks, > Lisa > To: nrainh20@aol.com > From: Barbie Davis <bdavis@puxico.k12.mo.us> > Subject: Family > I am Barbara "Barbie" (Rainwater) Davis. My father is Garry Lee Rainwater > married to M. Carolyn Stanfield. His father- William Roscoe Rainwater > Married Esther Mae VanMatre. My great-grandfather was John Lysander > Rainwater, married to Hesther Ann Nicholls. Hesther's mother was also a > Rainwater- Mary. John L.'s parents were Christopher C. Rainwater and Jane > Hale. I'm still checking with various Aunts and Uncles for dates on > births, deaths, and marriages. I haven't been able to connect our family > line with any of the others that I have found but I know that there has to > be a connecetion. I know that my grandfather (W. R.) lived in Southeast > Missouri all his life. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!! > > > > > --part0_916433401_boundary-- > > > ==== RAINWATER Mailing List ==== > Complaints/suggestions to listowner: > schimmel@northlink.com

Hi Paula, Mariah was married to Pinkney Lanford of Spartanburg,SC. He was a Baptist minister. He was the son of Lewis L Lanford and Mary Leatherwood. They moved to Fayette Co.,Ala just before their 4th child was bn. He was bn near Vernon,Fayette,Ala. Mariah died about 10 May 1859 when her last child was bn. She is probably buried near Vernon somewhere.I don't have anything on any of the others. I need to do some in depth research on these families when I get the chance. Glidie ---------- > From: BCTone@aol.com > To: grm@castlenet.com; RAINWATER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [RAINWATER-L] Re:Silas Mercer's family > Date: Sunday, February 07, 1999 7:50 PM > > Four of Nancy Rainwater's children are buried in Wesley Chapel Cemetery in > Alabama. Even though these joined the Methodist Church, I would guess that > Nancy remained a Baptist and is buried in a Baptist Church cemetery nearby. I > find it hard to believe that her children would not mark her grave in some > way. > Children buried in Wesley Chapel: > (1) Sarah Rainwater wife of Livingston Bobo > (2) Miles Rainwater, Jr. married to Sarah Edwards > (3) Silas Mercer Rainwater married to Mary Jane Hindman > (4) Jane Amanda Rainwater wife of William Waldrop > > Her daughter Vashti Rainwater wife of David J. Crossley is buried in Nations > Poplar Creek Baptist Church Cemetery in Montgomery County, MS. > > Does anyone know where her other children <Mary "Polly", Amelia "Milly", and > Mariah are buried? > > Paula McCaulla

Hi Gary, Thanks for the cemetery records. I'll add them to my collection and eventually get them sorted out to whom they belong. It is very possible that Dora Metta is the daughter of Silas Mercer R. There were 2 sets of Rainwater's in Fayette/Sanford/Lamar Co Ala. One was my line (William and Elizabeth Lucas Rainwaters descendants) and the other was Miles and Nancy (Edwards) Rainwater's descendants which was Silas Mercer R. Do you know who she married? That would help me a lot. Silas and his wife were the only family having kids in Lamar in the 1880's (other than my line) I've proven most of mine and she's not on them. Let me know. Glidie ---------- > From: GStev72818@aol.com > To: grm@castlenet.com; RAINWATER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [RAINWATER-L] Re:Silas Mercer's family > Date: Sunday, February 07, 1999 5:36 PM > > Glidie could you tell me if you found any mention of a dora metta rainwater > in this family or any close to it? dora metta is my great grandmother who i > believe is from fayette county (now lamar county) the dates i have for her > are born april 28 1883 died may 17 1915 i dont know her place of birth or > her burial place. i do know that she lived with my great grand father in > bowie texas for a while and because my family is from millport alabama (lamar > county) i think she may be from there. > > also i have a census of pinhook cemetery which is 5 miles south of vernon > alabama and i looked in for the names you listed i found the following: > > sammie l. rainwater 1905-1905 > l.o.rainwater 1878-1947 > pearl g.rainwater 1883-1973 > milner g.rainwater jan.5 1913-may 15 1971 > ala.cpl.134 Q.M. truck co. w.w. II > > howard demesey rainwater june 30 1919-oct 29 1988 > gospel singer and song writer > sgt.u.s army w.w.II (very large monument) > > > > hope this helps you or anyone who can use this info > > gary stevens

Hi Annie, I have data showing that James had 7 brothers and several sisters. He says- in his Bible-that he was bn in Lufty Cove,Cherokee,NC. He md Catherine McCall 1 May 1809 in Richmond,Rockingham,NC. She was age 13 when her first son Eli D was bn on 4 Nov 1811 in Jefferson Co.Tn.She died 4 Nov 1875 in Sand Hollow,Jefferson.Tn.They had 7 children. ---------- > From: Annie <zapt@cyberhighway.net> > To: RAINWATER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [RAINWATER-L] attn: Bliss Bignall > Date: Sunday, February 07, 1999 11:53 PM > > In answer to your query, do you have the following? > William Rainwater Jr. b. before 1771 md. Sallie (Granny Cherokee) (two sons, James & Vincent) > son James Rainwater b. 1791 Richmond, NC md. Rockingham, NC d. 27 Jul 1871 Crawford Co., AR > md. Katie (Kathy) McCall b. 1795 Scotland/or Ireland (8 children) > John Sanford was bn 21 Mar 1819 and he was their 4th child. He md 1st in Tn on 16 Sep 1844 to Lucinda Shahan and they had 6 children. She died before 1856. John md 2nd Isabell Tyler Allen by 1856 as their oldest child is age 3 on the 1860 census. John and Isabell had 7 children. John Sanborn R. who md Della Townsend on 21 Mar 1907 was the son of Robert Allen Rainwater and his 1st wife Kathryn Wyatt. Robert Allen R.was the son of Mastin Crawford R and his wife Martha Jane McCarter. Mastin Crawford R was a younger brother to John Sanford R son John Sanford (or Sanborn) Rainwater b. bef. 1830 d. of Crawford Co., AR md. Della Townsend > son Robert Allen Rainwater b. abt 1859 AR md. Kate Wyatt (5 children) Robert Allen R was bn 24 Jul 1861 in Crawford Co.,Ark.He md 1st 23 Feb 1879 to Kathryn Wyatt (5 ch) He md 2nd Mrs Melissa (Weaver) Mizer on 6 Apr 1902.(6ch) He died 8 Mar 1953 in Sapulpa,Creek,Okla and is buried in Stroud Cem in Stroud,Lincoln,Okla. I have all his children if you need them. Glidie > (don't have their children listed in my database) > > If you don't have family group sheets, I can give you that. Ann T. > > > ==== RAINWATER Mailing List ==== > Tell your cousins about our RAINWATER family > here on RootsWeb. To subscribe, send SUBSCRIBE to: > rainwater-L-request@rootsweb.com