In a message dated 3/2/99 6:47:45 PM Central Standard Time, grm@castlenet.com writes: > Hi Ron, > Do you have a complete list of Milas W. and Martha Proffitt R's children? > There were 12 in all. Child # 4 below died 22 Mar 1850-age 6 months. > If you don't have them,let me know. > Glidie Yes, I have all 12 children with the following data: Mar 03 1999 Family Group Sheet ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Husband: Milas W Rainwater ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Born: Mar 07 1816 in: Jefferson Co, TN Died: Dec 26 1895 in: Jefferson Co, TN Buried: Dec ?? 1895 in: Hills Union Meth Cem, Jefferson Co, TN Ref: Occupation: Constable & Farmer Father: James Rainwater Mother: Catherine McCall ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Wife: Martha Proffitt Married: Jan 18 1842 in: Jefferson Co, TN ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Born: Nov 11 1821 in: TN Died: Jun 17 1889 in: Jefferson Co, TN Father: Samuel Proffitt Mother: Sarah Webb ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ? Child 1 stillborn child Rainwater Born: Jun ?? 1843 in: Jefferson Co, TN Died: Jun ?? 1843 in: Jefferson Co, TN Buried: Jun ?? 1843 in: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ M Child 2 Anderson Harrison Rainwater Born: Jun 03 1844 in: Dandridge, Jefferson Co, TN Died: Feb 21 1912 in: Newport, Cocke Co, TN Buried: in: Union Cem, Newport, TN Spouse: Sarah Elizabeth Lewis Married: Apr 05 1866 in: Spouse: Sarah E "Sally" Cruise Married: Aug 22 1883 in: Spouse: Samantha Cecelia "Bug" Wilkerson Married: May 09 1896 in: Jefferson Co, TN ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ M Child 3 John Wesley Rainwater Born: Jan 06 1846 in: Jefferson Co, TN Died: Jan 17 1929 in: Jefferson Co, TN Buried: in: Hills Union Meth Cem, Jefferson Co, TN Spouse: Louisa (Spline) Henry Married: Feb 08 1867 in: Jefferson Co, TN Spouse: Annie M Manning Married: aft 1906 in: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ M Child 4 William Simpson Rainwater Born: Jan 01 1848 in: Jefferson Co, TN Died: Jul 21 1901 in: Buried: in: Chestnut Hill Meth Cem, Jefferson Co, TN Ref: Occupation: farmer/Methodist Minister Spouse: Sarah Elizabeth Thornton Married: Mar 03 1870 in: Jefferson Co, TN ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ F Child 5 Louisa Elizabeth Rainwater Born: Oct 26 1849 in: TN Died: Mar 22 1850 in: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ M Child 6 Samuel Wiley Rainwater Born: Mar 23 1851 in: Jefferson Co, TN Died: Dec 23 1864 in: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ M Child 7 Eli Perry Rainwater Born: Mar 15 1853 in: Jefferson Co, TN Died: Mar 26 1910 in: Buried: in: Hills Union Meth Cem, Jefferson Co, TN Ref: Occupation: Doctor Spouse: Eliza Darthula Henry Married: Feb 06 1881 in: Spouse: Malinda M Brimer Married: May 07 1899 in: Jefferson Co, TN ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ F Child 8 Eliza Jane Rainwater Born: May 09 1855 in: TN Died: Jun 10 1891 in: McKinney, Collin Co, TX Buried: Jun ?? 1891 in: Walnut Grove Cemetary, Collin Co, TX Spouse: John Preston Striplin Married: in: Jefferson Co, TN ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ M Child 9 Sanford Meek Rainwater Born: Nov 15 1856 in: Chestnut Hill,Jefferson Co, TN Died: Aug 18 1893 in: Jefferson Co, TN Spouse: Sarah Jane Hill Married: 1876 in: Jefferson Co, TN ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ F Child 10 Margret Malinda Rainwater Born: Nov 17 1858 in: Jefferson Co, TN Died: in: Spouse: Jonathan Denton Married: in: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ M Child 11 Inman Seaton Rainwater Born: Jan 30 1861 in: Jefferson Co, TN Died: Dec 02 1881 in: Spouse: Jane Denton Married: in: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ M Child 12 Miles Murphey Rainwater Born: Sep 29 1864 in: Jefferson Co, TN Died: Aug 09 1891 in: Buried: in: Hills Union Meth Cem, Jefferson Co, TN Spouse: Hannah Rebecca McAndrew Married: Jun 15 1886 in: Jefferson Co, TN ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Wife: Elizabeth Dickey Married: Jan 25 1894 in: Jefferson Co, TN ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Born: Nov 1834 in: TN Died: in: Father: John Dickey Mother: Rebecca Ketner ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ron

On 03/02/99 I wrote the following: > Milas and Martha's first child was stillborn in Jun 1843. Milas' parent were NOT > those noted above. His father was James Rainwater b. 1791 Richmond Co, NC d. > after Jul 27 1871 Crawford Co, AR (son of William Rainwater, Jr and Ann). Milas' > mother was Catherine McCall b. Jul 20 1795 NC d. Nov 4 1875 Jefferson Co, AR. My fingers got carried away typing on the last line. Catherine "Katie" McCall died in Jefferson Co, TENNESSEE not Arkansas. I have also seen a number of references to "Katie" being born in Scotland in 1798. At this point I place more faith in her being born July 20 1795 in NC. That information was published on page 262 of "Chestnut Hill: A Chronicle 1783-1986". I have also seen references to James being born in Surry Co, NC as well as Lufty Cove, Cherokee Co, NC, however, I currently use Richmond Co, NC as his place of birth. Ron

Hi Susan, You will be happy to know I have found pages and pages and pages of information on the family lines you requested. I wish I could be so lucky to find as much information on my line as I have found on yours. I have marriage records, LW&T, death, civil war pensions, cemeteries, probate and estate records of your lines. There was no information on Humberson (Umberson) none on Mary Jane. There are some Elizabeth's and Martha's which I cant tell if they are yours or not. All the other names you requested I can help you with. There is a lot on Richard, Joseph and Delilah. It will take me quiet a while to type all of it due to the amount of information that is in this book. If you would like to give me your mailing address or you can call me and I will be happy to give you the info. I know you will be thrilled to have all of this. Of course, I don't know how much information you have on each of these family members; but I can assure you if you have mostly names you are in for a great surprise. Let me know if you want me to mail to you or if you want to call me, I will give you my phone number. Marilyn

Hi Ben - Mathew Rainwater b. in TN and d. in Washington, Co., AR (don't know who his parents were) md. Mahala (Hally) Jane Snapp bef 1834. Her parents were Peter Snapp & Margaret Barnhart. Their oldest daughter Margaret Elizabeth b. 29 May 1835 in Sevier. TN md. Moses A Lewallen 23 Oct 1856 in Washington Co., AR. She d. 4 Apr 1896 in Bell Co., TX. Her brothers and sisters were Barbara, Benjamin Franklin, John, Charity A., Abraham, Samuel, William Henderson, Mary Evaline, Martin Van Buren, Nancy Bell and Susan Adeline. Sources: 1850 Census, Johnson Co., IL p. 344; John & Abraham Rainwater's Civil War pension records; Mahala Jane Snapp Rainwater's Bible. Mathew lived in TN, IL and AR. Notes of the children refer to Glendon Wood - 4909 40th St. - Lubbock TX 79414

---------- > Date: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 22:38:41 > From: zapt > Hi Emma - I looked through my Georgia families, and the only child that fits > is child number 4 of Joseph and Caroline Rainwater. Joseph was b. 1815 in SC, > son of Miles Rainwater and Miss Rogers. Caroline E. was b. <1830> in Georgia. > Their children were: William W. <1846> b. Campbell Co; Robert <1847>; Nancy > J. <1849>; male baby Rainwater not yet named 1/12 (1 month old - this is the > one that might be Daniel); Lacey <1864> d. 1 Jan 1926 in GA; Miles M. (became > a Baptist minister, according to the mystery mimeo information) > > Source - mimeo information; > 1850 Census dwelling #305; > There is an article about William W., child #1 in the Rainwater Researcher > (U.S. Military Pension files). > > Hope this helps. Annie

Hi Everyone: Some of you have ask me to look up names in the Alabama records book I received. After looking back on what I had emailed to rootsweb the first time regarding the book, I realized I failed to mention these are Clarke County Alabama records. I truly apologize, as I thought I had stated this. There are only 2 Rainwaters listed in this book, Richard and Nancy. However there are numerous other surnames. The offer still stands. If I can help let me know. Best Wishes, Marilyn

> Date: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 16:55:34 > From: zapt > To: Jarmgirl3@aol.com > Subject: Aaron Rainwater > > A few years ago, I decided to find every Rainwater in the entire country on > the 1850 Census, which I did, and have all the families in a notebook, > segregated by states (Oregon, even). Polly was single at that time, and her > children were Elizabeth <1828>; William <1830>; Maria (Mariah?)<1832); Mary > I.(J?) <1836>; Isabella (Zilpha?) <1839>; and Susan <1842). They certainly do > look like a match, but his parentage is still a mystery, eh?> Wish I could help. There are three other Aarons in my data, all born at least 10 years after 1799. > Thanks, Annie > PS: It amounted to roughly 70-75 households total. Which makes me believe > that we're all related... 15-20 large families (which were common those days) of the third or fourth > generation could comprise that many male offspring. Of course the girls would > be in households with their married names.

Glidie just had to respond to the itchy feet but in my family it is called a restless nature. My Dad Was like that and his brother too and me I have always felt like I was just waiting to go somewhere else. Betty Rainwater Craig

Hi Ron, Do you have a complete list of Milas W. and Martha Proffitt R's children? There were 12 in all. Child # 4 below died 22 Mar 1850-age 6 months. If you don't have them,let me know. Glidie ---------- > From: Ron48@aol.com > To: RAINWATER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [RAINWATER-L] Fw: John Wesley Rainwater > Date: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 8:26 AM > > > Date: Sunday, February 28, 1999 06:10:25 > > > From: zapt > > > To: ICDJD@aol.com > > > Subject: John Wesley Rainwater > > > > > > Hi Diana - I'm just getting to your query last month - a pile of e-mails > > to > > > wade through. I think your John could have been the son of Miles > > Rainwater > > > and Martha Proffett, who appear on the 1850 Census in Jefferson Co., > > > Tennessee, where Dandridge is located. At that time, they had 4 children > - > > > > > Harrison Anderson b. <1844>; John <1845-6>; William <1847>; and Murphy M. > > > Rainwater b. 29 sep 1864 in Jefferson Co., TN. Murphy md. Hannah Rebecca > > > McAndrew in 1886, and they are buried in the Hill Union Methodist > Cemetery > > in > > > Jefferson Co. Miles' father was James Rainwater Sr., mother Anne > > Catherine > > > Regan. > > > Information: 1850 Census; Clan McAndrew by A. T. Skeen 929.273 in Salt > > Lake > > > Library. > > > By the time of the 1850 census Milas and Martha had 5 children with the > following children still living: > 1) Anderson Harrison Rainwater b. Jun 3 1844 > 2) John Wesley Rainwater b. Jan 6 1846 > 3) William Simpson Rainwater b. Jan 1 1848 > 4) Louisa Elizabeth Rainwater b. Oct 26 1849 > > Milas and Martha's first child was stillborn in Jun 1843. Milas' parent were > NOT those noted above. His father was James Rainwater b. 1791 Richmond Co, NC > d. after Jul 27 1871 Crawford Co, AR (son of William Rainwater, Jr and Ann). > Milas' mother was Catherine McCall b. Jul 20 1795 NC d. Nov 4 1875 Jefferson > Co, AR. > > > ==== RAINWATER Mailing List ==== > Tell your cousins about our RAINWATER family here on RootsWeb.

---------- > From: Emma Gene Gentry <hgentry@inetport.com> > To: grm <grm@castlenet.com> > Subject: Re: [RAINWATER-L] Alexander Martin R.'s family > Date: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 9:06 AM > > -- Glidie, I don't know if you happened to see the message I posted when > the Rainwater rootsweb list was just getting started. It refers to the > only Rainwater I ever knew personally. When I was a child (in the > 1920's and early 1930's) my parents had these close friends whose name > was Rainwater. The husband of the family was usually called C.S. but as > I recall his given name was Charles Simpson. He was also sometimes > called Simp. His wife was Flora or Florra and I think her maiden name > was Cook or Cooke. If I'm right about her being Cook or Cooke, then I > think she was from Grapevine, TX (Tarrant Co.) and that's where DFW > airport is now. They had a young son whose name I don't remember, but > it could have been Bobby. C.S. Rainwater was a pharmacist in Dallas. > Can you place this Rainwater family? I haven't heard anything of or > about them in probably 60 years. Just curious. Emma Gene Gentry > > Emma Gene (Seale) Gentry > <hgentry@inetport.com> > Austin, Texas

Hi Annie, According to her family Bible she says she was bn Scotland-not Ireland and she was real small-4-5 when they came over. It seems like people moved around and went farther then than we give them credit for. If they were anything like my husband (and he isn't even a Rainwater!!)-if someone moves in a mile from you, it's getting too crowded and it's time to move on. They just liked their space, and every Rainwater I ever knew had itchy feet. Her Bible also states James was bn in Lufty Cove (which is present day Cherokee, Swain, NC) There is a large Cherokee Indian Reservation there now.(Eastern Cherokee) Swain was made from Jackson and Macon Co.'s in 1871. Jackson and Macon from Haywood; and Haywood from Buncombe; and Buncombe (in 1791) from Burke and Rutherford; and it all goes back to Rowan Co.formed in 1753 from Rowan Co.----whew--where would the records be? Hope this helps some-if it hasn't thoroughly confused you. Glidie ---------- > From: Annie <zapt@cyberhighway.net> > To: RAINWATER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [RAINWATER-L] attn: Ron48@aol.com > Date: Sunday, February 28, 1999 7:21 PM > > Hi Ron, thanks for the correction. When will we get through wading in this mire of misinformation? My data says that James Rainwater b. 1791 was born in Cherokee Co., NC, rather than Richmond. Also, the stories Eli's granddaughter told in the Rainwater Researcher indicate that Katie McCall was b. in Ireland, not North Carolina. Here is a quote: "...I will take up James, the great granddaddy of us all. James Rainwater, born 1791, oldest son of William and Granny Cherokee, married Katy McCall, born 1795 in Ireland. Her parents were Scotch-Irish. She was 7 when they came to the U.S. Where they landed, I do not know, or why they came. They must have landed somewhere in the Caolinas as they made their way across country to around Cherokee. James and Katy were married (according to some records) in May 1809 in Rockingham, Richmond, NC. If this be true, she certainly was a child bride. She always said she was 13 years old wen her first child was born. He was Eli, my gra! > ndfather, born Nov 1811. My father remembered Katy and spent much time with her when he was small. She lived real close to his father, Eli, and was always alone. He always regretted that he didn't learn more about our people from her but he was too young to be interested. I too, regret that I didn't ask him more about things he probably could have told me. The thing that impressed her most was the ship and the sea and it being so rough. Guess she was scared. ...it would be interesting to know why they moved on to Sandy Ridge, TN. We do know that the Indians (Cherokee) had lived at one time all along the French Broad River, which is now Douglas Lake, and in the Smoky Mtns. Long after they had left the French Broad county and were making their homes in the mountains, they would come back during the summer and fish, make baskets and hunt along the river. Each year fewer and fewer would come, until they finally quit. Daddy recalled when he was real small and at his Gran! > ny's house (Granny Cherokee, William's wife and Katy's mother-in-l > with her and that he couldn't understand them. She could talk to them and he said it all sounded like grunting to him, and he was afraid of them. She told him they were from over on Lufty Ceek. This is what she called the big creek that runs thru the Indian town now know as Cherokee., NC and that she was talking to them about "our folk" and that they would not hurt him." > This all sounds pretty authentic to me. Family histories tell a lot. Annie > > > ==== RAINWATER Mailing List ==== > Tell your friends and cousins about our RAINWATER family. > To get on the list send the message SUBSCRIBE to: > rainwater-L-request@rootsweb.com It's all automatic.

Hi All, I just wanted to let those of you who are interested know that I have just received an Alabama records book. This book has marriage records, orbituaries, deeds, civil war pensions, probate records, cemeteries, records of guardians , estates and wills. There are numerous names listed in this book. If any of you would like me to look for anyone in your line, please let me know. Best wishes, Marilyn Miller Long Beach MS

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It was sent to that list from > grc@haystack.mit.edu (Glenn Campbell) < who wrote the following: "This is a bit long winded but worth reading. PLEASE circulate, at least the address of the FAMILY SEARCH, to any roots-l you may belong (to) so that the LDS will consider to keep it running." ----Original Message----- From: Virginia Ewing [mailto:vewing@ctesc.net] Sent: Monday, March 01, 1999 5:00 PM Subject: LDS FAMILY SEARCH COMING SOON As the director of a LDS Family History Center, I have received a notice from Salt Lake LDS FHL, announcing the Beta testing of Family Search on line. It is not yet up, a problem with a piece of equipment, but will be starting sometimes this month and will be up only a few weeks as a test run. If there is not a lot of interest it will be taken off and not put back on. So spread the word and keep trying to get through. When it comes on line the URL will be: > www.familysearch.org <. I have not been told exactly what will be available but know at least the Ancestral File and Family History Library Catalog will be included. Family Search is the name of the program we have on CDs in all LDS FHCs. Some public libraries also have this program. FS includes the IGI, Ancestral File, Family History Library Catalog, Social Security Death Records, Koran and Vietnam war death records, and Scottish Church Records. For those of you not familiar with the various searches, the IGI is the International Genealogical Index. It includes, in alphabetical order, all of the names that have been sent to the Temples to have ordinances performed in their name. Names in the IGI are usually submitted by members, but not always. Non-members also submit their family names to get them into the IGI. Some of the marriages may have been part of extraction programs. The names were taken from courthouse records and checked and rechecked by several volunteers before being accepted as correct. 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In a message dated 3/1/99 5:59:42 PM Central Standard Time, zapt@cyberhighway.net writes: > > ---------- > > Date: Sunday, February 28, 1999 06:10:25 > > From: zapt > > To: ICDJD@aol.com > > Subject: John Wesley Rainwater > > > > Hi Diana - I'm just getting to your query last month - a pile of e-mails > to > > wade through. I think your John could have been the son of Miles > Rainwater > > and Martha Proffett, who appear on the 1850 Census in Jefferson Co., > > Tennessee, where Dandridge is located. At that time, they had 4 children - > > > Harrison Anderson b. <1844>; John <1845-6>; William <1847>; and Murphy M. > > Rainwater b. 29 sep 1864 in Jefferson Co., TN. Murphy md. Hannah Rebecca > > McAndrew in 1886, and they are buried in the Hill Union Methodist Cemetery > in > > Jefferson Co. Miles' father was James Rainwater Sr., mother Anne > Catherine > > Regan. > > Information: 1850 Census; Clan McAndrew by A. T. Skeen 929.273 in Salt > Lake > > Library. > By the time of the 1850 census Milas and Martha had 5 children with the following children still living: 1) Anderson Harrison Rainwater b. Jun 3 1844 2) John Wesley Rainwater b. Jan 6 1846 3) William Simpson Rainwater b. Jan 1 1848 4) Louisa Elizabeth Rainwater b. Oct 26 1849 Milas and Martha's first child was stillborn in Jun 1843. Milas' parent were NOT those noted above. His father was James Rainwater b. 1791 Richmond Co, NC d. after Jul 27 1871 Crawford Co, AR (son of William Rainwater, Jr and Ann). Milas' mother was Catherine McCall b. Jul 20 1795 NC d. Nov 4 1875 Jefferson Co, AR.

Hi everyone, Alexander Martin R/ is supposed to be the son of John Nelson and Barbara (Emert) Rainwater but--- He was bn 29 Aug 1820 in NC. All the other children of John and Barbara are bn Sevier Co.,Tn with the exception of Charity Elizabeth C.who was bn in Ray Co.,Mo. Kind of weird, isn't it. John would have been 22 but Barbara would have been 11 when he was born!! He could very well be a younger brother to John. They seemed to move to the same counties and states as John. Something to think about. Has anyone read the early records for SevierCo? Sevier was made from Jefferson in 1794 and the early records are at Sevierville,Tn.Some have been microfilmed by the LDS churdh but most have not. Alexander Martin R. was bn 29 Aug 1820 NC;md Mar or Apr 1852 in Polk Co., Ore to Sarah Elizabeth Emert. Sarah was bn Dec 1833 in Tn and she died 27 July 1905 ;he died 1890-both in Albany,Benton,Ore. Children; all bn Albany,Benton,Ore 1- John Reddin-bn Dec 1853-md 23 Feb 1879 to Lucy May Snell (bn Neb) 2-Daniel W.-bn May 1855-md Emma ? 3-James William-bn Jan 1857-md 23 Feb 1879 to Sarah Ellen Snell 4-Angeline Melinda-age 3 1860-md ______Brooks 5-Aaron Emmett-age 1-1860 6-Ida B-age 7 1870-md 6 Jan 1880 to H.J.Reese 7-Lydanna (Annie)-age 5 1870-md 13 Nov 1881 to Frederick Stahl 8-Emma J-age 3 1870-md 22 Dec 1886 to Albert E. Morrison 9-Martin Coleman-bn May 1869 md 1st 27 Jun 1887 to Carrie Myrtle Darling-md 2nd 13 Sep 1916 to Clara Arnetta Baer. 10-Bessie-age 7 1880-md 12 Oct 1890 J.A.Cresswell #1 John Reddin's children 1-Hattie-bn Nov 1883 2-Andrew A-bn Feb 1887-md Nellie E ? ch-Alice M-age 11 1920; Myron R-age 9 1920; Raymond R-age 2 9/12 1920 3-Elmer-bn Feb 1889-md Daisy B? #2 Daniel W's children 1-Martin E-bn July 1887;md Nevada S. Huber--ch--Ellis W;Glenn Harold-bn 21 Sep 1919;Virgil; Thelma (md Jack Bergerson); Bonita (Bonnie) md Donald Jackson 2-Lena-bn Jun 1892 #3William James' children 1-(f)Mora E.-bn Dec 1884 2-Robert A-bn Feb 1889 3-John R-bn Feb 1891 #9 Martin Coleman's (Cole) children 1-Frances S.-bn Sep 1894 2-William-bn Jun 1896 3-Jessie R-bn Oct 1897 4-Emmett-bn Feb 1898 I have some more questions but I'll ask them another time. Glidie

Pardon me...I tried to forward an e-mail from another rootsweb list and I implied the person who sent the letter was myself. It was not. ----Original Message----- From: Cindy Courtier [mailto:ccourtier@russreid.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 12:28 AM To: ROBERTSON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: LDS Family History Website

from the Book of Ragan Reagan by Donald Reagan 801 Henrietta Dr. Knoxville, TN 37912 phone 615/689-4438 Barbara Emert, the eldest daughter of Philip and Elizabeth Ragan Emmert, was b Tue. 6 Jun 1809 on the watshed of Copeland Creek, part of the Emert Cove area in Sevier Co., TN. Here she lived until her marriage About 1823, soon after her father's death (at age 14), Barbara was married to John Nelson Rainwater in Sevier Co., TN. John Nelson was born circa 1798 in the State of North Carolina. John Nelson and Barbara Rainwater were listed in the 1830 Fed. Census of Sevier Co., TN. They had 3 children in the household at that time: one male under 5 yrs.; 2 males 5-10 yrs. Her husband John N. was also listed on the 1837 Tax List of Sevier Co. He was taxed for his landsin the 4th Civil Dist. Barbara and her husband John N. were still in Sevier Co., TN in 1840 and were listed in the census with six children in the household: one female under 5; 1 female age 5-10; 2 males and 1 female 10-15; and 1 male and 1 female 15-20. About 1845, she and her husband migrated with their children to Ray Co., MO. There they were listed in the 1850 Federal Census. There were only 2 children in the household now: Angeline, age 14; and Charity E.C. age 4. There have been no other records of Barbara and her family found after the 1850 census. But Census, Marriage and other official records give us the names of most of the family members. Family of John Nelson and Barbara Emert Rainwater: *First seven born in Sevier Co., TN and last one born in Ray Co., MO. 1. (son) _______ Rainwater b. ca. 1824 (ed. note: some believe this could have been Alexander Martin Rainwater) 2. Richard Rainwater b. 1826 3. Jane Rainwater b. 1828 m. Isaac Leabo 4. Enoch Rainwater b. 1830 5. Lucinda Caroline Rainwater b. 1832 m. Jeremiah Leabo 6. Infant Rainwater b. ca. 1834 "died infancy" 7. Angeline Rainwater b. 1836 8. Charity E. C. Rainwater b. 1846 You may be interested in buying this book - I felt it was worth every penny. You can see the amount of work Donald and his mother put into such exacting research. When I bought it, the price was $27.50

from "The Book of Ragan Reagan" by Donald Reagan 801 Henrietta Dr. Knoxville, TN 37912 phone 615/689-4438 Catherine Ragan Emert Williamson (mother-in-law of Jacob C. Rainwater) The second daughter of Philip and Elizabeth Ragan Emmert, was born Sat. 8 Feb 1812 on the watershed of Copeland Creek, part of the Emert Cove avea in Sevier Co., TN. She was md. on Wed. 28 Nov 1827 (Family Bible) to John Nelson Williamson in Sevier Co., TN. John Nelson was a son of John & Nancy Williamson and was born on Monday, 3 Apr 1809 in Cocke/Sevier Co., TN. John N. & Catherine R. Williamson were listed in the 1830 Fed. Census of Sevier Co. There was only one child in the household at that time - a male under age 5. Catherine and John gathered their children and migrated to Ray Co., MO. They left Sevier Co., TN circa 1835 along with the other family members and friends. The couple was listed in the 1850 Census of Ray Co., MO. There were 7 children in the household: Elizabeth age 18; Lucinda (my great grandmother) 15; Lewis 13; Martha 11; John 9; Nancy 6; and James 2. Philip Riley had married and lived in a separate household. About 1864 Catherine and John again gathered the children and set out for the far West. This time to Benton Co., Ore from Ray Co., MO. They lived the remainder of their lives here. John Nelson Williamson died on Saturday, 3 Jul 1875 and Catherine died Saturday, 20 Oct. 1883. They were buried in the Gingles Cemetery in Benton Co., Ore. Their first three children were born in Sevier Co., TN - the last 8 born in Ray Co., MO. 1. Philip Riley Williamson b. 18 Nov 1828 d 26 Jun 1898 m 25 Feb 1849, Mary Holman 2. Mary Elizabeth Williamson b. 13 Mar 1831 d. 5 Feb 1895 m Isaac Holman 3. Lucinda Catherine Williamson b. 11 Sep 1833 d. 14 Jun 1879 m Jacob Rainwater at Dayton, WN 4. Reuben Lewis Wiliamson b. 9 Feb 1836 d 27 Jan 1905 m 8 nov 1850, Nancy Alderson 5. Martha Malinda Williamson b. 14 Nov 1838 d 3 Aug 1932 m 9 Apr 1857, Wiley William Holman 6. John Rainwater Williamson b. 6 Jul 1841 "died young" 7. Nancy Evaline Williamson b. 14 Nov 1843 d .....1919 m John V. Green; Silas Williams 8. Daniel Alexander Williamson b. 18 Mar 1846 "died young" 9. James Franklin Williamson b 16 Sep 1848 "died young" 10. Alonzo Augustus Williamson b 1 Jul 1851 d .......1924 m 11 May 1884, Eliza Ellen Carter 11. Robert Nelson Williamson b 1 Jan 1854 d 26 Jan 1924 m 11 May 1884 Eliza Ellen Carter 12. Samuel Williamson (this child was not on Donald Reagan's list, but in my Aunt's notes. Maybe born in Washington?)

The site is at:http://lds-online.com/family.htm An article from the Global Gazette in February says: LDS Family History Library WebSite in 1999 Rumors are flying about the possibility that the Family History Library in Salt Lake City might be starting a website. It's true. Curt Witcher, a director of GENTECH, attended their annual conference recently in Utah and came back with details about this long-awaited site. He shared them with me. The site will begin sometime in the second quarter of this year. Its name will be FamilySearch Internet Genealogy Services. FamilySearch is the copyright name of their CD-ROM genealogical indexes. This might make you think that these indexes will be available at the site, but this is not so. I know that many people will be disappointed that the International Genealogical Index and Ancestry File will not be included initially on the site... The online site will have the Family History Library Catalog. This is not the same as the version at the family history centers. It will be considerably enhanced. As well as author, title and LDS film number, it will include place names, surnames, keywords and subjects, all in searchable fields. This means that for the first time, researchers will be able to use the Family History Library catalog in the same way they use online library catalogs elsewhere (in public or academic libraries). The flexibility of the catalog will mean that we can find more books and films, more easily. The big question for most people who live far from Salt Lake (or even far from a branch family history center) is: when will the other FamilySearch options be included on the website. No decisions have been made about this yet. As I mentioned in my last column, the Genealogical Society of Utah, the family history arm of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, has now begun a publications program selling sets of CD-ROMs on particular topics. I mentioned a six-disk set of British vital records indexes. Witcher informs me there are also sets of Australian Vital Records (price US$5.00) and United States Vital Records (price US$15.00). At the moment I am unsure exactly what is on these. Other projected series to be made available soon are vital records sets for Continental Europe, Latin America and Scandinavia, Ellis Island immigration records, the 1880 U.S. census and the 1881 British census (scheduled for summer 1999). The latter will be grouped in regions, but there will also be a nation-wide index.

Hi Glidie, Thanks for writing back to me. I have various dates for his birth, but 1821 seems the most likely. His gravestone says 1820! I haven't some of the information you sent, so it does look like at least Barbara could not be his mother. Could John Nelson have been married once before? He was born in NC. Looks like another puzzle to solve. According to the 1830 census he had 3 children - 1 male under 5 (Enoch?) and 2 males age 5-10 - maybe Alexander and who else? These older two boys had to have been born between 1820 -1825. In 1840 he had 1 female age 5 and under, 1 female 5-10, 2 males and 1 female 10-15, and 1 male and 1 female ages 15-20. Maybe in the 1830 census an extra boy was added when it should have marked a female. But who are all the extra in the 1840? I still could place Alexander here. So you can see where I think Alexander is John's son but most likely not Barbara's. I am posting to the board so everyone can see and maybe shed their own thoughts on this. Also who is John Nelson's father? Aldean -----Original Message----- From: grm <grm@castlenet.com> To: tendick <tendick@efn.org> Date: Sunday, February 28, 1999 10:26 PM Subject: Re: [RAINWATER-L] Just for information >In the Biographical section of the Donation Land Claims book-pg 525, >it has a sketch of Alexander Martin Rainwater that states he was bn >29 Aug 1820. On the 1870 he states he's 49 (bn 1821) which is in the >same time frame for the census. My question is- How can he be the >son of John Nelson and Barbara (Emert) Rainwater? John Nelson >would have been 22 but Barbara would have been 11!!!!!According to >everyone I've corresponded with says John and Barbara md in 1823!!! >Did I miss something somewhere or did I do my math wrong? How >could Alexander M be their son? He says he's bn NC. All the other >kids are bn Sevier Co.Tn with the exception of Elizabeth Charity C.- >age 4 1850 in Ray Co.,Mo. >Can you help with this problem? >Glidie > >---------- >> From: tendick <tendick@efn.org> >> To: RAINWATER-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [RAINWATER-L] Just for information >> Date: Sunday, February 28, 1999 9:46 PM >> >> Hi, >> I have been waiting for any posting on my Rainwater family. Just for >> future information, I am descended from John and Barbara (Emert/Emmett) >> Rainwater through their son Alexander Martin Rainwater. I have quite a >bit >> of information on Alexander's family and would like more on his siblings >and >> parents. Also any on the the line going backwards. >> Thank you, >> Aldean Tendick >> Oakridge, OR >> tendick@efn.org >> -----Original Message----- >> From: grm <grm@castlenet.com> >> To: RAINWATER-L@rootsweb.com <RAINWATER-L@rootsweb.com> >> Date: Sunday, February 28, 1999 2:59 PM >> Subject: Re: [RAINWATER-L] help! >> >> >> >Hi Annie, >> >Have been going through all my files to answer your question. As far >> >as I've been able to find out through census' and other records-Enoch >> >F. Rainwater was the son of John and Barbara (Emert) Rainwater.I've >> >never found him as John Nelson R. anywhere except in family information >> >submitted to the IGI and Ancestral File. John F. Rainwater is shown on >> >the 1860 Ray Co.,Mo census (pg 189-fam # 1296) as a child of Enoch F. >> >and Cate (Catherine Remely) Rainwater. Enoch is shown as "school- >> >teacher" bn Tn. Cate is bn Mo. They md 5 Jan 1854 in Ray Co.,Mo. >> >(M515661-Film # 959300) The M means it's an extracted record from a >> >microfilm of the original record. My question is - where were they on >the >> >subsequent censuses? >> > >> >I'm assuming this is John Freeman R. Again, I haven't found him as >> >such on any record. Would appreciate any input on this family. >> >Hope this helps some. I'm going uo to Salt Lake on the 10th for the >> >Utah DAR State Conference and I hope to get some research done >> >while I'm there, this time. If I find anything I'll keep you posted. >> >Glidie >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >---------- >> >> From: Annie <zapt@cyberhighway.net> >> >> To: RAINWATER-L@rootsweb.com >> >> Subject: [RAINWATER-L] help! >> >> Date: Friday, February 26, 1999 11:56 AM >> >> >> >> Maybe Glidie can straighten me out. I have inadevertently connected >John >> >Freeman Rainwater with two Enochs - one the son of John Nelson >Rainwater, >> >and the other the son of James Rainwater and Polly McDaniel. Where does >he >> >belong? Thanks, Annie >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== RAINWATER Mailing List ==== >> >> Tell your friends and cousins about our RAINWATER family. >> >> To get on the list send the message SUBSCRIBE to: >> >> rainwater-L-request@rootsweb.com It's all automatic. >> > >> > >> >==== RAINWATER Mailing List ==== >> >This list is not for political discussions, seasonal greetings, jokes, >> >and personal causes. Please keep messages oriented toward genealogy. >> >Listowner is at: schimmel@northlink.com >> > >> >> >> ==== RAINWATER Mailing List ==== >> Many subscribers to this list specialize in certain States >> and Counties. If you need help or information, post your >> lineage and ask for assistance. >