Date sent: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 21:02:29 -0800 From: James Schutza <schutza@flash.net> Subject: Abraham B. Rainwater Hello! I am looking for A.B. Rainwater b6/13/1846 m. Hattie W. Goodard. I found a land patent report appl. #10957 for 160 acres in Camden Co. for Abraham B. Rainwater. I believe this Abraham on the report to be the brother of my gg grandfather Benjamin Franklin R. Any info you might have would be greatly appreciated! Marcia Schutz

In a message dated Sun, 14 Mar 1999 21:02:29 -0800 James Schutza <schutza@flash.net> writes: > Subject: Abraham B. Rainwater > Hello! > I am looking for A.B. Rainwater b6/13/1846 m. Hattie W. Goodard. I found a > land patent report appl. #10957 for 160 acres in Camden Co. for Abraham B. > Rainwater. I believe this Abraham on the report to be the brother of my gg > grandfather Benjamin Franklin R. Any info you might have would be greatly > appreciated! > Marcia Schutz I have the following data on Abraham Butler Rainwater, his parents, siblings and his children, one of which is Benjamin Franklin Rainwater: Mar 19 1999 Family Group Sheet ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Husband: Gideon E Rainwater ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Born: Jul 06 1819 in: Pulaski Co, KY 1 Died: Aug 01 1865 in: Camden Co, MO 1 Buried: in: Montreal, Camden Co, MO Father: Abraham Rainwater Mother: Mrs Rainwater Accodring to Webber, Gideon was a private in Co. G, 45th & 48th Missouri Infantry Regiments from October 1, 1864, to June 28, 1865. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Wife: Mary Ann Hammonds Married: Feb 10 1839 in: Russell Co, KY 2 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Born: Jul 11 1815 in: KY 1 Died: Aug 26 1899 in: Camden Co, MO 1 Buried: in: Montreal, Camden Co, MO ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ M Child 1 Francis Marion Rainwater Born: Jun 18 1840 in: KY 1 Died: Dec 25 1900 in: Camden Co, MO 1 Buried: in: Montreal, Camden Co, MO Spouse: Martha Ellen Conner Married: Nov 03 1864 in: 3 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ F Child 2 Hulda Jane Rainwater Born: ___ ?? 1844 in: Camden Co, MO 1 Spouse: George Russell Married: in: 1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ M Child 3 Abraham Butler Rainwater Born: May 16 1845 in: Linn Creek, Camden Co, MO 1 Died: Nov 01 1917 in: Stoutland, Camden Co, MO 1 Buried: in: Stoutland Cemetery, Camden Co, MO Spouse: Sarah Catherine Waters Married: Oct 20 1870 in: Camden Co, MO 4 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ F Child 4 Mary Ann Rainwater Born: ___ ?? 1846 in: Camden Co, MO 1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ M Child 5 George W Rainwater Born: Oct 27 1849 in: Camden Co, MO 1 Spouse: N Jane McCollum Married: in: 1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ M Child 6 John P Rainwater Born: ___ ?? 1851 in: Camden Co, MO 1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ M Child 7 Eli S Rainwater Born: ___ ?? 1854 in: Camden Co, MO 1 Spouse: Mary Woolery Married: in: 1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ F Child 8 Martha E Rainwater Born: 1857 in: Camden Co, MO 1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1 Donald S. Webber 73 2 Donald S. Webber; CD229 Automated Archives Inc. - Jul 10 1839 73 3 Donald S. Webber 74 4 Donald S. Webber 75 Mar 19 1999 Family Group Sheet ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Husband: Abraham Butler Rainwater ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Born: May 16 1845 in: Linn Creek, Camden Co, MO 1 Died: Nov 01 1917 in: Stoutland, Camden Co, MO 1 Buried: in: Stoutland Cemetery, Camden Co, MO Father: Gideon E Rainwater Mother: Mary Ann Hammonds ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Wife: Sarah Catherine Waters Married: Oct 20 1870 in: Camden Co, MO 2 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Born: Mar 11 1853 in: Louisville, KY 2 Died: Jan 16 1939 in: Horton, Vernon Co, MO 2 Buried: in: Greenlawn Cemetery, Kansas City, MO Father: George M Waters Mother: Elizabeth White ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ F Child 1 Lunettia Rainwater Born: Sep 08 1871 in: Camden Co, MO 2 Spouse: George Dobbins Married: in: 2 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ F Child 2 Mary Elizabeth Rainwater Born: Dec 25 1872 in: Camden Co, MO 2 Died: Jun 17 1968 in: Independence, MO 2 Spouse: Joseph Wiley Jones Married: Jan ?? 1897 in: 2 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ M Child 3 Benjamin Franklin Rainwater Born: Nov 05 1874 in: Camden Co, MO 3 Died: before 1984 in: Buried: in: Park Lawn Cemetery, Kansas City, MO 3 Spouse: Evie Munday Married: in: 3 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ M Child 4 George Edward Rainwater Born: Oct 20 1876 in: Camden Co, MO 3 Died: before 1984 in: Buried: in: Fresno, CA 3 Spouse: Becky O'Dell Married: in: 3 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ M Child 5 Reuben Butler Rainwater Born: Mar 08 1878 in: Camden Co, MO 3 Died: May 08 1880 in: Stoutland, Camden Co, MO 3 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ M Child 6 Jeremiah Lenard Rainwater Born: May 20 1879 in: Camden Co, MO 3 Spouse: Elizabeth Married: in: 3 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ M Child 7 William Merritt Rainwater Born: Apr 14 1881 in: Camden Co, MO 4 Died: Feb 27 1971 in: Kansas City, MO 5 Buried: in: Park Lawn Cemetery, Kansas City, MO 3 Spouse: Emma Married: in: 3 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ F Child 8 Trinkney Florence Rainwater Born: Oct 05 1882 in: Camden Co, MO 3 Died: Jul 08 1920 in: Kansas City, MO 3 Spouse: John Harbor Gladden Married: in: 3 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ F Child 9 Anna Rosa Rainwater Born: Sep 17 1885 in: Camden Co, MO 3 Died: Oct 31 1975 in: 3 Spouse: Adolph R Binner Married: in: 3 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ F Child 10 Josie Florence Rainwater Born: Mar 09 1888 in: Camden Co, MO 3 Died: in: Spouse: William Joshua Scofield Married: May 14 1905 in: 3 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ M Child 11 Harrison Spurgeon Rainwater Born: Oct 22 1890 in: Linn Creek, Camden Co, MO 6 Died: Apr 1981 in: probably Firebaugh, Fresno Co, CA 7 Spouse: Ella May Walters Married: Oct 25 1913 in: Jackson Co, MO 3 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ M Child 12 Lemuel Oliver Rainwater Born: Feb 08 1896 in: Camden Co, MO 6 Died: Jan 24 1975 in: Camden Co, MO 8 Spouse: Maggie A Cromer Married: in: 3 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1 Donald S. Webber 73 2 Donald S. Webber 75 3 Donald S. Webber 76 4 Donald S. Webber page 76 (date & place): SSDI (date) 5 Donald S. Webber page 76 (date & place): SSDI (month, year & place) 6 Donald S. Webber page 76 (date & place); SSDI (date) 7 Social Security Death Index 1937-1995 8 Donald S. Webber page 74 (date & place); SSDI (month & year) Ron Recer Edmond, OK 73003

Today I sent an E-mail to JHarlan 605@aol.com and got it back as User Unknown. He is listed as a Submitter on Ancestry.com, so I figure he must be a cousin for sure. I am hoping he is on this RAINWATER List and will contact me soon. <basset@juno.com> Thanks in advance. Marjorie DAWSON THOMAS Battle Ground, Washington ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

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Thanks. I believe you and I are on the same page. Dan At 11:19 PM 3/13/99 -0700, grm wrote: >Hi Dan and Annie, >Caught your messages -Joseph E. was the son of Rev James and Mary >"Polly" (Mason) Rainwater. He married 18 Jan 1844 to Caroline E. Walton. >Caroline was bn 26 Sep 1829 and died 6 Oct 1860. Joseph died 1 Feb 1873. >They are both buried in Wood Cem. Wood Co.,Tx > >They had the following children: >1-William W-age 4 1850-md in Wood Co.,Tex 1st-Pennie ? .She was bn > 6 Feb 1853 and died 29 Jul 1872. They had 1 child-John C. -age 9 1880 > md 2nd Sarah J. Bullock on 21 Mar 1880. He died and Sarah Jane md 2nd > J.J.Kirkland on 12 Nov 1893.William and Sarah had 2 >children-Howard and > Victoria. >2-Robert-age 3 1850-md Delilah ? >3-Nancy J-age 1 1850- >4-Charles A. bn 8 Apr 1850-md 24 Dec 1882 to D.A.E.Smith. He died 9 Nov >1896. >5-Emma L-age 7 1860- md Jason Ayer >6-Mary Ellen-age 5 1860-md C.A.Fowler >7-Julia L-age 4 1860-md John Q.Cox >8-Sarah-age 3-1860 > >Joseph's will was probated 22 Sep 1879 in Wood Co.,Tx. Probate File # 25 >(GS# 1637486). > >---------- >> From: Dan Bruce <dwbrucejr@mindspring.com> >> To: RAINWATER-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [RAINWATER-L] Fw: Daniel - attn. Emma Gentry >> Date: Friday, March 12, 1999 11:39 PM >> >> Annie, >> >> What information do you have that indicates that Joseph was the son of >> Miles Rainwater? According to the will of James (the Preacher) Rainwater, >> Joseph was his and Polly Mason's third child, after Zebulon Miles >Rainwater >> and Emily Rainwater Golightly. I'd be very interested in any info you >have >> that indicates that Joseph was Miles's son. Thanks. >> >> At 10:45 PM 3/3/99 PST, Annie wrote: >> > >> > >> >---------- >> >> Date: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 22:38:41 >> >> From: zapt >> > >> >> Hi Emma - I looked through my Georgia families, and the only child >that >> fits >> >> is child number 4 of Joseph and Caroline Rainwater. Joseph was b. >1815 >> in SC, >> >> son of Miles Rainwater and Miss Rogers. Caroline E. was b. <1830> in >> Georgia. >> >> Their children were: William W. <1846> b. Campbell Co; Robert ><1847>; >> Nancy >> >> J. <1849>; male baby Rainwater not yet named 1/12 (1 month old - this >is >> the >> >> one that might be Daniel); Lacey <1864> d. 1 Jan 1926 in GA; Miles M. >> (became >> >> a Baptist minister, according to the mystery mimeo information) >> >> >> >> Source - mimeo information; >> >> 1850 Census dwelling #305; >> >> There is an article about William W., child #1 in the Rainwater >Researcher >> >> (U.S. Military Pension files). >> >> >> >> Hope this helps. Annie >> > >> > >> > >> >==== RAINWATER Mailing List ==== >> >Tell your friends and cousins about our RAINWATER family. >> >To get on the list send the message SUBSCRIBE to: >> >rainwater-L-request@rootsweb.com It's all automatic. >> > >> > >> Dan >> >> >> ==== RAINWATER Mailing List ==== >> If you have a complaint or a suggestion how the list can >> better serve you, send them to the listowner: >> schimmel@northlink.com > Dan

Hi Dan and Annie, Caught your messages -Joseph E. was the son of Rev James and Mary "Polly" (Mason) Rainwater. He married 18 Jan 1844 to Caroline E. Walton. Caroline was bn 26 Sep 1829 and died 6 Oct 1860. Joseph died 1 Feb 1873. They are both buried in Wood Cem. Wood Co.,Tx They had the following children: 1-William W-age 4 1850-md in Wood Co.,Tex 1st-Pennie ? .She was bn 6 Feb 1853 and died 29 Jul 1872. They had 1 child-John C. -age 9 1880 md 2nd Sarah J. Bullock on 21 Mar 1880. He died and Sarah Jane md 2nd J.J.Kirkland on 12 Nov 1893.William and Sarah had 2 children-Howard and Victoria. 2-Robert-age 3 1850-md Delilah ? 3-Nancy J-age 1 1850- 4-Charles A. bn 8 Apr 1850-md 24 Dec 1882 to D.A.E.Smith. He died 9 Nov 1896. 5-Emma L-age 7 1860- md Jason Ayer 6-Mary Ellen-age 5 1860-md C.A.Fowler 7-Julia L-age 4 1860-md John Q.Cox 8-Sarah-age 3-1860 Joseph's will was probated 22 Sep 1879 in Wood Co.,Tx. Probate File # 25 (GS# 1637486). ---------- > From: Dan Bruce <dwbrucejr@mindspring.com> > To: RAINWATER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [RAINWATER-L] Fw: Daniel - attn. Emma Gentry > Date: Friday, March 12, 1999 11:39 PM > > Annie, > > What information do you have that indicates that Joseph was the son of > Miles Rainwater? According to the will of James (the Preacher) Rainwater, > Joseph was his and Polly Mason's third child, after Zebulon Miles Rainwater > and Emily Rainwater Golightly. I'd be very interested in any info you have > that indicates that Joseph was Miles's son. Thanks. > > At 10:45 PM 3/3/99 PST, Annie wrote: > > > > > >---------- > >> Date: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 22:38:41 > >> From: zapt > > > >> Hi Emma - I looked through my Georgia families, and the only child that > fits > >> is child number 4 of Joseph and Caroline Rainwater. Joseph was b. 1815 > in SC, > >> son of Miles Rainwater and Miss Rogers. Caroline E. was b. <1830> in > Georgia. > >> Their children were: William W. <1846> b. Campbell Co; Robert <1847>; > Nancy > >> J. <1849>; male baby Rainwater not yet named 1/12 (1 month old - this is > the > >> one that might be Daniel); Lacey <1864> d. 1 Jan 1926 in GA; Miles M. > (became > >> a Baptist minister, according to the mystery mimeo information) > >> > >> Source - mimeo information; > >> 1850 Census dwelling #305; > >> There is an article about William W., child #1 in the Rainwater Researcher > >> (U.S. Military Pension files). > >> > >> Hope this helps. Annie > > > > > > > >==== RAINWATER Mailing List ==== > >Tell your friends and cousins about our RAINWATER family. > >To get on the list send the message SUBSCRIBE to: > >rainwater-L-request@rootsweb.com It's all automatic. > > > > > Dan > > > ==== RAINWATER Mailing List ==== > If you have a complaint or a suggestion how the list can > better serve you, send them to the listowner: > schimmel@northlink.com

Annie, What information do you have that indicates that Joseph was the son of Miles Rainwater? According to the will of James (the Preacher) Rainwater, Joseph was his and Polly Mason's third child, after Zebulon Miles Rainwater and Emily Rainwater Golightly. I'd be very interested in any info you have that indicates that Joseph was Miles's son. Thanks. At 10:45 PM 3/3/99 PST, Annie wrote: > > >---------- >> Date: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 22:38:41 >> From: zapt > >> Hi Emma - I looked through my Georgia families, and the only child that fits >> is child number 4 of Joseph and Caroline Rainwater. Joseph was b. 1815 in SC, >> son of Miles Rainwater and Miss Rogers. Caroline E. was b. <1830> in Georgia. >> Their children were: William W. <1846> b. Campbell Co; Robert <1847>; Nancy >> J. <1849>; male baby Rainwater not yet named 1/12 (1 month old - this is the >> one that might be Daniel); Lacey <1864> d. 1 Jan 1926 in GA; Miles M. (became >> a Baptist minister, according to the mystery mimeo information) >> >> Source - mimeo information; >> 1850 Census dwelling #305; >> There is an article about William W., child #1 in the Rainwater Researcher >> (U.S. Military Pension files). >> >> Hope this helps. Annie > > > >==== RAINWATER Mailing List ==== >Tell your friends and cousins about our RAINWATER family. >To get on the list send the message SUBSCRIBE to: >rainwater-L-request@rootsweb.com It's all automatic. > > Dan

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This message did not make the list as it was sent by a non-subscriber and bounced back to my mailbox. Non-subscribers can not post messages to any RootsWeb list. This stops spamming by those highly profit-motivated folks. Bob Schimmel, Listowner ************** ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date sent: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 18:35:49 -0800 (PST) From: Jarmgirl3@aol.com To: Rainwater-L@rootsweb.com Subject: {not a subscriber} Rainwater gleanings from (Annie) Dear Annie, I am intrigued about your "North and South Carolina orphans'" and believe I may have a piece of your puzzle. My ancestor was Aaron Rainwaters ca. 1799 and his wife Polly(who was born in NC). They lived in TN and were married sometime around 1819 because their firstborn followed shortly thereafter. In 1826 they moved from Tennesse to Kentucky and claimed a 100 acre land grand on the waters of "THE WEST CLIFTY" in Todd county. Aaron and Polly settled and farmed this land until his death around 1849. In his will from that year, beneficiaries were listed as eldest daughter Caroline(Stinson), James and Parks(eldset sons), Ferley Crouch(Husband of daughter Phoeby), Elizabeth(daughter), William(son), Mariah, Mary Jane, Zilpha, and Martha(minor children) Then shortly thereafter, in 1853 a land title petition listed Aaron's survivors as Polly Rainwaters, Caroline Stinson, James Rainwaters, Parks Rainwaters, Elizabeth Turner, Phoeby Crouch, William Rainwaters, (Mary Jane, Isabella, Susan and Mariah as minor daughters). I have listed marriages for: Caroline and John Stinson on 2-20-1842, James and Adelaine Jackson on 6-4-1844, Elizabeth and Samuel Turner on 12-12-1850. Phoeby married Mr. Ferley Crouch and Mariah married Mr. Robert Curtis(I have no dates for these). I have no information on marriages for the other siblings nor do I have dates of their deaths. My descendents are from the union of the eldest son, James and his wife, Adelaine Jackson who lived their entire lives in the Logan Co. KY area. I have been searching for the father of Aaron Rainwaters for three years, but have been unsuccessful in finding the home from which he originated. Since his wife Polly stated in a census that she was born in North Carolina then I can only assume Aaron originated there also. But, he just doesn't seem to fit into any of the "documented families" from that time. I was surprised to see a spot on you list of "ORPHANS" from North Carolina which listed a wife named Polly, a residence in Kentucky and a birth date ca.1799. He seems to fit into this like a glove. May I ask how you stumbled across him?? I would be curious to know any more input you may have on this. Thank you. My e-mail is jarmgirl3@aol.com

I would like to know whose son Walter L. Rainwater-bn 1875 in Fayette Co.,Ala is. Does anyone know? He's not from my line there and I can't seem to place him with any of Miles' descendants either, except he md Julia Hindman,daughter of Hiram and Sarah (Bobo) Hindman. So he'd almost have to be from that group-but whose? Any clues, anyone? Glidie

Hi Bob, Just a short note-I've found another child to be added to the family of Silas Mercer R. of Fayette Co.,Ala. Her name is Dora Metta R-the gr-grandmother of Gary Stevens who had messages on the list.I found her marriage record in SL. She was bn 28 Apr 1883 and md 23 Mar 1899. Thus she did not appear on the 1880 nor the 1900 in a family.She was under 18 when she md so she had to have written permission in front of a legal witness-which in this case was a Probate Judge. This was written on the bottom of the marriage record Hope all is well with you and Marty.We're fine ,but busy. I told Charles we'd better find jobs so we can have some time off. Seems like we're busier now than when we were working full-time. I can't visualize anyone saying "there's nothing to do- I'm bored", with so much to do. Oh well. Take care. Glidie

Hi Katherine, You missed one child on the family. Miles was age 2 on the 1860 census. John M was age 5/12 (bn Feb 1860)(census was taken 27 Jun 1860). Miles wasn't on the 1870 census. but I couldn't find the family either. Milly didn't die until 16 Oct 1864 (probably from complications of birth-Sarah was bn 2 Oct 1864) and Louisa (James and Sarah's oldest daughter is age 15- 1880 -bn 1865) I've also researched this line some but so far haven't really done too much on it. Maybe when I get my files sorted out,I'll get in some good research time and see what I can find. Glidie ---------- > From: KRich355@aol.com > To: RAINWATER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [RAINWATER-L] James T. RAINWATERS b. 1837 > Date: Friday, March 05, 1999 10:10 AM > > This particular James Rainwater was my GGGrandfather. My standard post is as > follows: > > James RAINWATER b. Sept. 27, 1836 in ALABAMA > d. Mar.7,1905 in Cullman Cty, Alabama > m. Feb.3,1857 to Milley PARRIS in Paulding Cty,GA > b.about 1835 in GA > d. Oct.16,1864 in Paulding Cty, GA > children: John M. RAINWATER b. about 1859 in GA > William J. RAINWATER b. about 1862 in GA > Sarah Revelou RAINWATER b. Oct. 2, 1864 in Dallas or Hiram, > Paulding Cty, GA > m. to Phillip Alston BROOKS Oct. 20, 1880 > d. June 19, 1950 in Menlo,Chattooga Cty, GA > After Milley's death infant Sarah was taken in by her grandmother and by 1857 > he married Susannah E. PARRIS WILSON b 5/25/1840 (Milley's cousin) > d 6/22/1912 in Cullman Cty, Alabama > > I have talked with Dennis on several occasions and it seems we are at a brick > wall. > > James Rainwater's parents are a mystery. This family is found in the 1850 > Cobb Cty,GA census as follows: > Rainwater, Burrel, 68 and b.SC > Rainwater, Elizabeth, 58 b.GA (married within the year) > Rainwater, Jane, 42 b.GA > Rainwater,John James, 15, b.AL (This IS James T.) > Rainwater, John, 12, b.AL > Rainwater, Joseph, 7, b.AL > > No one is sure just who Jane is. A daughter or daughter-in-law perhaps? > > In the 1860 Paulding Cty, GA census we have: > Rainwater(s), Jane, 50 > Rainwater(s), John, 19 > Rainwater(s), Joseph, 15 > Rainwater(s), Margarett, 8, b.GA > Rainwater(s), Amanda, 5, b. GA > > Jane has acquired 2 daughters and still no mention of a husband. Yet they all > have the same surname. > There is considerable speculation about Jane, including the possibility that > she was promiscuous. > > And there stands the brick wall. > > Kathy in TN > researching Brooks, Calley, Parris, Rainwater & Rich > > > In a message dated 3/5/99 1:32:49 AM Eastern Standard Time, > dwbrucejr@mindspring.com writes: > > > > > I believe Pinckney F. Rainwater and his wife, Sarah, had a son named James > > that was born around 1837, but my records show his middle initial as an > > "A", not a "T". I have no info on this James A. Rainwater, other than his > > parents. Dennis may want to check this line out further. > > > > At 06:46 PM 3/3/99 -0800, marjorie l thomas wrote: > > >Can anyone help Dennis? Any help greatly appreciated. > > > > > >3 Great Grandfather: > > >James T. RAINWATERS b. 1837 in Alabama > > >buried in Cullman, Alabama, Holly Pond area. > > >married Milly PARRIS > > > > > >2 Great Grandfather: > > >John M. RAINWATERS b. Dec 1859, Dallas, GA > > >m. Cynthia PARRIS b. Sep 1854 > > > (her former husband was Noten PARRIS) > > >Children: three boys > > >1. Carmen Clinton RAINWATERS > > >2. Sam RAINWATERS > > >3. Georgie RAINWATERS > > > > > >Great Grandfather > > >Carmen Clinton RAINWATERS b. 2 Apr 1888 - d. 23 Apr 1957 > > >bur. Marietta, Cobb Co. GA - m. 3 Dec 1911 to Willie Pearl AUSTIN b. 15 > > >March 1895 Acworth, Cherokee Co, GA.. > > >Children: 4 > > >1. Guy Clinton RAINWATERS > > >2. Lois Edna RAINWATERS > > >3. James Audery RAINWATERS > > >4. John Wilton RAINWATERS > > > > > >Grandfather: > > >Guy Clinton RAINWATER Sr. b. 9 Sep 1912 Dallas, Paulding Co. > > >GA - m. Lucy Delema JOHNS > > >Children: 2 > > >1. Guy Clinton RAINWATER Jr > > >2. Jackie RAINWATER > > > > > >Father: > > >Guy Clinton RAINWATER b. 16 Jul 1932 Douglasville, GA, > > >m. 29 Jun 1952 Faye Jacquilen LEIGH - b. 27 May 1933 > > >Thomaston, GA > > >Children: 3 > > >1. Stephenie M. RAINWATER > > >2. Jeffery Vance RAINWATER > > >3. Dennis Leigh RAINWATER > > > > > >Dennis has searched and researched but needs help > > >as he has come to a dead end with his 3 Great Grandfather James T. > > >RAINWATERS. > > > > > >Dennis can be reached by phone or snail mail as he does > > >not currently have a computer. > > > > > >Dennis RAINWATER > > >130 Cottage Circle > > >Fayetteville, GA 30215-4939 > > >(770) 460-9096 > > > > > >Thank you in advance. > > ><basset@juno.com> > > > > > ==== RAINWATER Mailing List ==== > If you need to get off the list because of vacations, etc, > send the message UNSUBSCRIBE to: > rainwater-L-request@rootsweb.com. It's all automatic.

> > Hi Robert, I am so happy that things have taken an upturn in your life, and > you are still out there! I always wondered what happened. From your > newsletter, I figured out once that you are about the same age as one of my > middle kids (of 8 born between 1957 and 1970). I wish just ONE of them was > interested in family history. Am so sorry that you have suffered personal > setbacks and losses, and truly hope that each day will get better and better > for you. > Anyway, I think the older we get, the more forgiving we become of the > human condition (each of us capable of fallacies in all avenues). My sister > and I have known for years that there are generation gaps above our great > great grandfather James Rainwater (father of Jacob C.) but like everyone else, > have never been able to find "solid proof". We have to keep remembering that > the people back in those days were often illiterate, lived way out in the > boonies, were busy from early a.m. until late p.m. ekeing out a living, so > just plain didn't write things down. Does anyone have a good history of > earliest Surry Co., NC? > Thanks for your efforts! Z. Ann Pettijohn > Tomlinson

Hi Katherine, I have been reading over the info that you sent to your cousin Dennis RAINWATER in 1995 and I have been thinking about trying to contact you. Good news that you are on the RAINWATER-List. Also I noticed your sources were all in GA. Have you tried looking at anything in Alabama where your Great Great Grandfather James T. RAINWATERS was born and died? Do you know if there is a Head Stone on his grave, or cemetery records? Dennis sent me page 408 entitled Cullman County Churches and Cemeteries - Holly Pond Cemetery. It lists RAINWATER, James T., Sept 27 1836 - March 7, 1905 RAINWATER, Susan E., May 25, 1840 - June 22, 1912. How about church records? With two preachers in the family, I bet there are some church records somewhere. Have you tried for Civil War Records? He was the right age to have served from Georgia. I am descended from : OLD John RAINWATER-Mary FUSSELL James RAINWATER-Catherine REGAN William RAINWATER-Patsy HODGE Bartholomew RAINWATER-Nancy McLAUGHLIN Sciota Bethene RAINWATER-John Levi ELDER Nancy Belle ELDER-George Calvin LEWELLEN Dora DAWSON - Sciota Belle LEWELLEN I was lucky on this family because of family bibles and others willing to share the fruits of their research. Please let me hear from you. Your RAINWATER cuzin, Marjorie DAWSON THOMAS Battle Ground, Washington ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Sarah (Sally) Rainwater was my gg-grandmother. This is regarding the 1850 Census for Burrell Rainwater in Cobb Co. GA. I have examined that census page and there is a check mark beside every head of household name in the married within the year column. Burrell is family #1658 and the next family #1659 is Charles Fuller and wife Sally. There is a check, married within the year, by their name also. I have a copy of Charle's and Sally's marriage certificate and they were married 27 December 1840 in Benton Co. AL with Burrell's son, Allen Rainwater to Nancy Lambert. I suspect the enumerator was just checking off the names for the count. The following is a copy of the notes I have for Burrell Rainwater's family. There is still one son, and two daughters for Burrell that have not been identified. So far I have as Burrell's and Elizabeth's children: Jane b 1808; son abt 1810; daughter abt 1812; Allen Terry b abt 1814; Nancy Adeline Jan 1817; Sarah August 1919; daughter abt 1822; Elizabeth December 1825; and Louisa Elzora March 1828. >From Mrs. Mary Mills, Genealogist, P.O. Box 281, Chesnee SC 29323. Index to Cedar Springs Baptist Church Minutes, Spartenburg Co. SC. Organized 1787 (minutes for Dec 1794-Apr 1831). Listed as members: Robert Rainwater, John Rainwater, Burrel Rainwater and Elizabeth Rainwater. Robert Rainwater received by letter from Newhope April 1805. John, Burrel and Elizabeth received by letter from Unity Church, July 1819, 14 years after Robert. This John may be Burrel's first born son. (Robert had been excommunicated from this church for being drunk and disorderly. He was restored to full fellowship July 21, 1810. This Robert may be Burrell's brother.) By 1825 Burrell and Elizabeth in are Hall Co GA as members of Yellow Creek Baptist Church. Hall Co. GA by Sybil Mc Ray - Yellow Creek Baptist Church, Part II. The Yellow Creek Baptist Church minutes have been micro-filmed by GA State Archives in Atlanta. December 17, 1825: Received by letter, Burwell and Elizabeth Rainwater. August 18, 1827: Excluded, Barwell Rainwater for drunkenness. December 15, 1827: Received by letter, Joshua Rainwater. (Maybe the John from Cedar Springs?) July 19, 1828: Received by experience, Polly Rainwaters. (May be Burrel's second daughter. She would have been about 16.) September 20, 1828: Received by recantation, Burwell Rainwater. Burrell was a Private in Captain Clement's Company SC Militia, War of 1812. Census records for Burrell. 1810-Spartenburg SC: 1 male under 10; 1 male 16-25; 1 female under 10; 1 female 16-25. 1820-Spartenburg SC: 1 male under 10; 1 male 26-45; 3 females under 10; 1 female 10-16; 1 female 16-26. 1830-Spartenburg SC: 1 male 15-20; 1 male 40-50; 1 female under 5; 2 females 5-9; 2 females 10-15; 2 females 16-20; 1 female 40-50. 1840-Cherokee Co. AL: (Listed as R. Rainwater, but it is a B.) 2 males 20-30; 1 male 50-60; 1 female 10-15; 1 female 15-20; 1 female 20-30; 1 female 50-60. 1850-Cobb Co. GA, California Dist. (became Paulding Co. in 1853)Family #1658: Burrell, age 68, white, farmer, born SC; Elizabeth, age 58, born GA; Jane, age 42, born GA; John James, age 15, born AL; John, age 12, born AL; Joseph, age 7, born AL. Family #1659 is Burrell's daughter, Sally Rainwater Fuller born SC with her husband and children. Family #1660 is Samuel Ragsdale and wife Polly. Could this be one of Burrell's daughters? Charles and Sally Fuller's son, Ezekiel Young, married Sarah Ann Parris. I have an abundance of information on the Parris lines if anyone is interested Kay Ohana

Going to California to baby sit grandchildren! Will contact you when I get back. The Rainwater website is great! Thanks for all your efforts. Annie

This particular James Rainwater was my GGGrandfather. My standard post is as follows: James RAINWATER b. Sept. 27, 1836 in ALABAMA d. Mar.7,1905 in Cullman Cty, Alabama m. Feb.3,1857 to Milley PARRIS in Paulding Cty,GA b.about 1835 in GA d. Oct.16,1864 in Paulding Cty, GA children: John M. RAINWATER b. about 1859 in GA William J. RAINWATER b. about 1862 in GA Sarah Revelou RAINWATER b. Oct. 2, 1864 in Dallas or Hiram, Paulding Cty, GA m. to Phillip Alston BROOKS Oct. 20, 1880 d. June 19, 1950 in Menlo,Chattooga Cty, GA After Milley's death infant Sarah was taken in by her grandmother and by 1857 he married Susannah E. PARRIS WILSON b 5/25/1840 (Milley's cousin) d 6/22/1912 in Cullman Cty, Alabama I have talked with Dennis on several occasions and it seems we are at a brick wall. James Rainwater's parents are a mystery. This family is found in the 1850 Cobb Cty,GA census as follows: Rainwater, Burrel, 68 and b.SC Rainwater, Elizabeth, 58 b.GA (married within the year) Rainwater, Jane, 42 b.GA Rainwater,John James, 15, b.AL (This IS James T.) Rainwater, John, 12, b.AL Rainwater, Joseph, 7, b.AL No one is sure just who Jane is. A daughter or daughter-in-law perhaps? In the 1860 Paulding Cty, GA census we have: Rainwater(s), Jane, 50 Rainwater(s), John, 19 Rainwater(s), Joseph, 15 Rainwater(s), Margarett, 8, b.GA Rainwater(s), Amanda, 5, b. GA Jane has acquired 2 daughters and still no mention of a husband. Yet they all have the same surname. There is considerable speculation about Jane, including the possibility that she was promiscuous. And there stands the brick wall. Kathy in TN researching Brooks, Calley, Parris, Rainwater & Rich In a message dated 3/5/99 1:32:49 AM Eastern Standard Time, dwbrucejr@mindspring.com writes: > > I believe Pinckney F. Rainwater and his wife, Sarah, had a son named James > that was born around 1837, but my records show his middle initial as an > "A", not a "T". I have no info on this James A. Rainwater, other than his > parents. Dennis may want to check this line out further. > > At 06:46 PM 3/3/99 -0800, marjorie l thomas wrote: > >Can anyone help Dennis? Any help greatly appreciated. > > > >3 Great Grandfather: > >James T. RAINWATERS b. 1837 in Alabama > >buried in Cullman, Alabama, Holly Pond area. > >married Milly PARRIS > > > >2 Great Grandfather: > >John M. RAINWATERS b. Dec 1859, Dallas, GA > >m. Cynthia PARRIS b. Sep 1854 > > (her former husband was Noten PARRIS) > >Children: three boys > >1. Carmen Clinton RAINWATERS > >2. Sam RAINWATERS > >3. Georgie RAINWATERS > > > >Great Grandfather > >Carmen Clinton RAINWATERS b. 2 Apr 1888 - d. 23 Apr 1957 > >bur. Marietta, Cobb Co. GA - m. 3 Dec 1911 to Willie Pearl AUSTIN b. 15 > >March 1895 Acworth, Cherokee Co, GA.. > >Children: 4 > >1. Guy Clinton RAINWATERS > >2. Lois Edna RAINWATERS > >3. James Audery RAINWATERS > >4. John Wilton RAINWATERS > > > >Grandfather: > >Guy Clinton RAINWATER Sr. b. 9 Sep 1912 Dallas, Paulding Co. > >GA - m. Lucy Delema JOHNS > >Children: 2 > >1. Guy Clinton RAINWATER Jr > >2. Jackie RAINWATER > > > >Father: > >Guy Clinton RAINWATER b. 16 Jul 1932 Douglasville, GA, > >m. 29 Jun 1952 Faye Jacquilen LEIGH - b. 27 May 1933 > >Thomaston, GA > >Children: 3 > >1. Stephenie M. RAINWATER > >2. Jeffery Vance RAINWATER > >3. Dennis Leigh RAINWATER > > > >Dennis has searched and researched but needs help > >as he has come to a dead end with his 3 Great Grandfather James T. > >RAINWATERS. > > > >Dennis can be reached by phone or snail mail as he does > >not currently have a computer. > > > >Dennis RAINWATER > >130 Cottage Circle > >Fayetteville, GA 30215-4939 > >(770) 460-9096 > > > >Thank you in advance. > ><basset@juno.com> >

I believe Pinckney F. Rainwater and his wife, Sarah, had a son named James that was born around 1837, but my records show his middle initial as an "A", not a "T". I have no info on this James A. Rainwater, other than his parents. Dennis may want to check this line out further. At 06:46 PM 3/3/99 -0800, marjorie l thomas wrote: >Can anyone help Dennis? Any help greatly appreciated. > >3 Great Grandfather: >James T. RAINWATERS b. 1837 in Alabama >buried in Cullman, Alabama, Holly Pond area. >married Milly PARRIS > >2 Great Grandfather: >John M. RAINWATERS b. Dec 1859, Dallas, GA >m. Cynthia PARRIS b. Sep 1854 > (her former husband was Noten PARRIS) >Children: three boys >1. Carmen Clinton RAINWATERS >2. Sam RAINWATERS >3. Georgie RAINWATERS > >Great Grandfather >Carmen Clinton RAINWATERS b. 2 Apr 1888 - d. 23 Apr 1957 >bur. Marietta, Cobb Co. GA - m. 3 Dec 1911 to Willie Pearl AUSTIN b. 15 >March 1895 Acworth, Cherokee Co, GA.. >Children: 4 >1. Guy Clinton RAINWATERS >2. Lois Edna RAINWATERS >3. James Audery RAINWATERS >4. John Wilton RAINWATERS > >Grandfather: >Guy Clinton RAINWATER Sr. b. 9 Sep 1912 Dallas, Paulding Co. >GA - m. Lucy Delema JOHNS >Children: 2 >1. Guy Clinton RAINWATER Jr >2. Jackie RAINWATER > >Father: >Guy Clinton RAINWATER b. 16 Jul 1932 Douglasville, GA, >m. 29 Jun 1952 Faye Jacquilen LEIGH - b. 27 May 1933 >Thomaston, GA >Children: 3 >1. Stephenie M. RAINWATER >2. Jeffery Vance RAINWATER >3. Dennis Leigh RAINWATER > >Dennis has searched and researched but needs help >as he has come to a dead end with his 3 Great Grandfather James T. >RAINWATERS. > >Dennis can be reached by phone or snail mail as he does >not currently have a computer. > >Dennis RAINWATER >130 Cottage Circle >Fayetteville, GA 30215-4939 >(770) 460-9096 > >Thank you in advance. ><basset@juno.com> >___________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html >or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > >==== RAINWATER Mailing List ==== >Many subscribers to this list specialize in certain States >and Counties. If you need help or information, post your >lineage and ask for assistance. > > Dan

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_920606965_boundary Content-ID: <0_920606965@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sorry, there is not a Dora Metta or Meter and it does not list any Websters at all in Cllarke Co. Good luck Marilyn --part0_920606965_boundary Content-ID: <0_920606965@inet_out.mail.aol.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline From: GStev72818@aol.com Return-path: <GStev72818@aol.com> To: MMM1118@aol.com Subject: Re: [RAINWATER-L] Attn:scr@ncc.com Re: Alabama record book Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 17:34:26 EST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Marilyn could you check and see if there is any info in the alabama record book on a dora metta(may be metter)rainwater born april 28 1883 died may17,1915 in bowie texas....she married hosea webster ayres and they lived at least for a while in or near millport alabama(lamar county) thank you for any help you can give gary stevens --part0_920606965_boundary--

Can anyone help Dennis? Any help greatly appreciated. 3 Great Grandfather: James T. RAINWATERS b. 1837 in Alabama buried in Cullman, Alabama, Holly Pond area. married Milly PARRIS 2 Great Grandfather: John M. RAINWATERS b. Dec 1859, Dallas, GA m. Cynthia PARRIS b. Sep 1854 (her former husband was Noten PARRIS) Children: three boys 1. Carmen Clinton RAINWATERS 2. Sam RAINWATERS 3. Georgie RAINWATERS Great Grandfather Carmen Clinton RAINWATERS b. 2 Apr 1888 - d. 23 Apr 1957 bur. Marietta, Cobb Co. GA - m. 3 Dec 1911 to Willie Pearl AUSTIN b. 15 March 1895 Acworth, Cherokee Co, GA.. Children: 4 1. Guy Clinton RAINWATERS 2. Lois Edna RAINWATERS 3. James Audery RAINWATERS 4. John Wilton RAINWATERS Grandfather: Guy Clinton RAINWATER Sr. b. 9 Sep 1912 Dallas, Paulding Co. GA - m. Lucy Delema JOHNS Children: 2 1. Guy Clinton RAINWATER Jr 2. Jackie RAINWATER Father: Guy Clinton RAINWATER b. 16 Jul 1932 Douglasville, GA, m. 29 Jun 1952 Faye Jacquilen LEIGH - b. 27 May 1933 Thomaston, GA Children: 3 1. Stephenie M. RAINWATER 2. Jeffery Vance RAINWATER 3. Dennis Leigh RAINWATER Dennis has searched and researched but needs help as he has come to a dead end with his 3 Great Grandfather James T. RAINWATERS. Dennis can be reached by phone or snail mail as he does not currently have a computer. Dennis RAINWATER 130 Cottage Circle Fayetteville, GA 30215-4939 (770) 460-9096 Thank you in advance. <basset@juno.com> ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]