--part1_eed0e810.24aa1491_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Group! I too am passing this along from the Melungeon list via the Proffitt list! Lisa --part1_eed0e810.24aa1491_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <Melungeon-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-yh01.mx.aol.com (rly-yh01.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.33]) by air-yh03.mail.aol.com (v59.51) with SMTP; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 02:01:47 -0400 Received: from bl-14.rootsweb.com (bl-14.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.30]) by rly-yh01.mx.aol.com (vx) with SMTP; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 02:01:02 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-14.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA06571; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 22:59:45 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 22:59:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Erasamia@aol.com Message-ID: <105dda5d.24a9baa7@aol.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 01:59:03 EDT Old-To: Melungeon-L@rootsweb.com Old-Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_105dda5d.24a9baa7_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Subject: [Melungeon-L] Fwd: Miles Rainwater Williams Resent-Message-ID: <bhgScB.A.CmB.RDGe3@bl-14.rootsweb.com> To: Melungeon-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: Melungeon-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <Melungeon-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/21552 X-Loop: Melungeon-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Melungeon-L-request@rootsweb.com --part1_105dda5d.24a9baa7_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi gang picked this up on the Proffitt List and know that there are Rainwater's on this one. Jerri --part1_105dda5d.24a9baa7_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <PROFFITT-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-yc01.mx.aol.com (rly-yc01.mail.aol.com [172.18.149.33]) by air-yc05.mail.aol.com (v59.51) with SMTP; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 22:15:07 -0400 Received: from bl-14.rootsweb.com (bl-14.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.30]) by rly-yc01.mx.aol.com (vx) with SMTP; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 22:15:01 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-14.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA13851; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 19:14:43 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 19:14:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990629021622.00708ea4@pop.knox.mindspring.com> X-Sender: webb2705@pop.knox.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 22:16:22 -0400 Old-To: PROFFITT-L@rootsweb.com From: "Jay S. Webb" <webb2705@knox.mindspring.com> Subject: Miles Rainwater Williams Resent-Message-ID: <tXi46.A.mXD.SwCe3@bl-14.rootsweb.com> To: PROFFITT-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: PROFFITT-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <PROFFITT-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/566 X-Loop: PROFFITT-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: PROFFITT-L-request@rootsweb.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone have a Miles Rainwater Williams, born January 04, 1873 (Another source gives his DOB as February 1872). He married Dicie E. Sims on September 12, 1891 in Sevier County, Tennessee. This family moved to Oklahoma in 1900, from Oklahoma to Texas then to New Mexico. Jay S. Webb http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/w/e/b/Jay-S-Webb/ http://www.parsonstech.com/genealogy/trees/jwebb/webb.htm http://www.parsonstech.com/genealogy/trees/jwebb/webb2.htm --part1_105dda5d.24a9baa7_boundary-- ==== Melungeon Mailing List ==== The Melungeon Registry http://pluto.clinch.edu/appalachia/melungeon/mel_nmr.htm --part1_eed0e810.24aa1491_boundary--

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A couple of book announcements that pertain to the two States where Rainwater had its beginnings. Bob Schimmel NORTH CAROLINA Western North Carolina: A History, 1730-1913 - John Preston Arthur. This account of the creation of the state includes sections on Robert Love, founder of Waynesboro, and John Sevier, the first governor of Tennessee. Public lands, Indian lands, land speculation and land grants are discussed. A section devoted to county histories includes brief sketches of prominent inhabitants, locations, significant buildings and a listing of principal office holders in the county. The chronicle of pioneer preachers includes excerpts from the 1800-1813 journal of Bishop Francis Asbury. A section on the Civil War includes prominent individuals, incidents, and touches on the Underground Railroad. Significant roads; manners and customs; the 1868 Asheville riot and "The Lineage of Lincoln's Real Mother"; judicial development, members, cases and rulings; education, newspapers, railroads, resorts, natural resources, geographic peculiarities, mines, the Cherokees, and political evolution are among the subjects addressed. (1914) reprint, 710 pp., illus., bibl., append., original fullname plus subject index, paper, $48.00 #A673 Pre-Publication price until 31 August 1999--$43.00 VIRGINIA Virginia Counties: Those Resulting from Virginia Legislation - Morgan P. Robinson. Virginia legislation created a total of 172 counties, but only 100 of them exist today. What is a genealogist to do? More than a valuable resource, this work explains the fascinating evolution of today's Virginia counties from the first plantations and "hundreds" which developed around the original Jamestown settlement. This handy reference volume gives reliable data in concise form concerning the dates of formation, the territory from which formed, and the origin of the names of the counties which have resulted from Virginia legislation--with references to the sources upon which these data are based and an enormous bibliography (more than 60 pages long!). The geographical section groups the counties into four divisions: Tidewater, Piedmont, Valley and Trans-Allegheny. The rather whimsically titled "genealogical" section shows how the counties all "descended" from the eight original "parent" shires and the "original county" of Northumberland. (1916) reprint, 284 pp., maps, original subject index, bibli., paper, $24.50 #R511 Pre-Publication price until 31 August 1999--$22.00 ---- Heritage Books, Inc. 1540-E Pointer Ridge Place, Bowie, MD 20716 phone: 1-800-398-7709 fax: 1-800-276-1760 email: heritagebooks@pipeline.com Visit our online catalog at http://www.heritagebooks.com

I hope this is the last time I am sending out this list. I have included a few more additions and corrections sent in by Rainwater correspondents. I am restricting the list to men named Rainwater who were born before 1900. They all go back to four people born around 1800 who named sons Miles Rainwater: Miles Rainwater (1787-1826), James Rainwater the blacksmith, James Rainwater the preacher, and William Rainwater (1774-1825). Admitting the unlikelihood that both Jameses had the same father, I separated out the preacher in my first list. Dan Bruce, however, thinks, with some reason, that the preacher, rather than the blacksmith, was the brother of the first Miles. I still think the reverse, particularly because Miles's estate contained some unusual blacksmith-related items for a preacher to have (Miles also was a minister, and James the preacher followed him in his church). Another reason is that the church records say that Miles was followed in the church by his cousin, not his brother. However, the same records gave Miles the wrong wife, so what can we believe? It would be nice if all the Miles Rainwaters descended from James Rainwater (c.1770-c.1835) and his wife Nancy Miles (c.1775-c.1847), as Nancy's last name appears to be the ultimate source of this first name. There were NO people named Miles in the Rainwater family prior to the marriage of James with Nancy Miles. However, both the James Rainwaters named sons Miles, and we have concluded that they were not brothers. At worst, one line of Mileses was named after an uncle-nephew relationship rather than father-son. Consequently, I am giving separate numbers to each of these four Miles progenitors. Their sons are designated by a number and a letter (1a), the next generation by a number, a letter, and a number (1a1), and so on. There are three isolated Miles Rainwaters. (1) Robert-William-James (1790-1871, m. Catherine McCall)-Milas W. (1816-1895, m. (1) Martha Profitt, (2) Elizabeth Dicky)-Miles Murphy (1864-1891, m. Hannay Rebecca Dandridge McAndrew). It is clear that this Miles drew his name from his father Milas and presumably had nothing to do with the Nancy Miles source. I am not sure of the accuracy of this line back to Robert. (2) Robert-John-John-John-William-Wilkes Berrywine-Miles Avery (1864-1925). This man occurs later, and the source of his name may be from distant cousins and ultimately Nancy Miles, or from an entirely unrelated source. Again, he does not seem to have relevance to the Nancy Miles source. Moreover, the name may be in error, as he is listed as Millidge A. Rainwater on the 1870 census but Miles in 1880. The name Miles may thus have been an elision or nickname. (3) The Stewart Co., TN, census of 1860 lists a John H. Rainwater (b. NC c.1804), wife Frances (Bird). Although some people list a son Miles Rainwater (b. c. 1846 for this couple, the name apparently is in error, as Wiley C.Rainwater, not Miles, was the son. We can disregard this group. Here then are the four men and their Miles descendants. I include everyone with the name Miles. Men with other names are included when they had a descendant named Miles. Again, I solicit comments, corrections, and additions. 1. Miles Rainwater (1787-1826) m. Nancy Edwards (1788-1855) 1a. Miles Rainwater (1815-1890) m. Sarah Edwards 1b. Silas Mercer Rainwater (1825-1902) m. Mary Jane Hindman 1b1. Miles Rainwater (1857-1911) m. (1) Hannah Hindman, (2) Sarah Frances Allen 2. James Rainwater the blacksmith ( - ) m. Apposley Cunningham 2a. Miles Rainwater (1816- ) m. (1) Mary Blanchett, (2) Sarah Elizabeth Simmons, (3) Sabra Amanda Jane Smith 2a1. Miles M. Rainwter (1858- ) m. 2b. Eber Rainwater ( - ) m. Sarah Elizabeth Eskew 2b1. Miles Eber Rainwater ( - ) m. Laura Almina Frazier 2b2. James Daniel Rainwater ( - ) m. Lucinda Johnson 2b2a. Miles Franklin Rainwater (1894-1907) m. 3. William Rainwater (1774-1825) m. Martha Hodges 3a. Miles Rainwater (1818-1884) m. Frances Chaney 3b. William Howard Rainwater (1813-c.1889) m. Minerva Ann Rayborn 3b1. John Raleigh Rainwater (1841-c.1910) m. (1) Genetta Thomas, (2) Rhoda Ann Cole 3b1a. Miles Evan Rainwater (1863-1941) m. Harriett Elizabeth Davidson 3b2. Miles Rainwater (1843-1927) m. (1) Permelia Emily Cain, (2) Elizabeth Warner or Waters, (3) Rebecca Reed or Davis 3c. Bartholomew Rainwater (1894-1889) m. Nancy McLaughlin 3c1. Miles Rainwater (1836-c.1914) m. Cornelia E. 3c2. Josiah Wilson Rainwater (1843-1934) m. Elizabeth Jane Weddle 3c2a. Miles Rainwater (1876-1956) m. Ollie Frances Cooper 4. James Rainwater the preacher (1795-1871) m. Mary Mason 4a. Zebulon Miles Rainwater (c.1823-1857) m. Lillian Thompson Joseph B. Lambert Department of Chemistry Northwestern University 2145 Sheridan Road Evanston, IL 60208-3113 Telephone 847-491-5437 Fax 847-491-7713 E-mail lambert@casbah.acns.nwu.edu or jlambert@nwu.edu Webpage http://www.chem.nwu.edu/~lambert/ (best with Netscape 3.0 or higher)

Hi Ross, I have Vol 3 of "Ray County Chapters" and it is third in a series of proposed volumes. It consists of articles edited by Jewel Mayes,beginning in 1930,which appeared every week for 10 years in the early Ray County,Mo newspaper know as the "Richmond Missourian".It says Mr. Mayes was the author of many of the articles as he challenged and encouraged his readers to supply him with information and recollections of early Ray Co. The response was overwhelming. The Ray Co. Genealogical Association is working to make this information available to the public. The reason I'm giving back-ground information is because there is a letter ,which was written 10 Dec 1928 by the widow of Charles C.Rainwater (Sarah Hannah Fowler). It was written to Mr Jewell Mayes.It appeared in the "Missourian on 16 Jul 1932". Robert Albert,Jr who published the "Rainwater Researcher" printed it in it's entirety in Vol 1 Issue !. Evidently he is a descendant as is Charles Rainwater Wollard in Ray Co,Mo. In the letter, she states where she was bn and when the family came into Mo. She also makes the statement "Shortly after becoming a member of the Rainwater family, father (Moses) said to me: "Daughter,I am not sure that you and Charlie have not committed a sin in getting married"." How is that?" I asked, and his reply was : My mother was a Fowler. To me that does not say that Moses' Fowler's and Sarah's are related in any way other than Sarah and Charlie's marriage.Sarah's family came from Calvert Co.,Md and Moses came from NC.Unless there is more information somewhere that will fill in the blanks. Moses Bible record is on film # 1697574-item 24.It's only 2 pages long. Glidie -----Original Message----- From: Ross Cameron <ross.cameron@arch2.nara.gov> To: RAINWATER-L@rootsweb.com <RAINWATER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, June 17, 1999 6:25 AM Subject: Re: [RAINWATER-L] Major Charles C. Rainwater, CSA >Susan, > >Major Charles Cicero Rainwater and Sarah Hannah Fowler Rainwater had no children. He was a first cousin of my g-g-grandmother, Lucinda Caroline (Rainwater) Leabo. Early in my research, I thought his father, Moses Fowler Rainwater (a relative of Sarah's family) was my Lucinda's father also, but turned out to be her uncle. I have several items on C. C. and Sarah. I wonder if the sketch at Duke is the same as the one at the Missouri Historical Society in St. Louis (see below). C. C. was a prominent businessman in St. Louis and also a leader in the Confederate Veterans organizations. I also have recently received copies of records on them which were donated by Fowler relatives to the Western Historical Manuscript Collection at the University of Missouri -- Rolla which I have not yet added to the list below. > >Charles Cicero Rainwater [1838-1902] > - obituary, "Maj. Rainwater Dead" in St. Louis Daily Globe-Democrat, 11 November 1902, p. > - obituary, "Major Rainwater's Death Was Sudden" in The [St. Louis] Republic, > 11 November 1902, p. > - application for membership in Society of Sons of the Revolution (SR) > - biographical sketch and noted, Walter B. Stevens, The Fourth City, 1764-1909, > volume I, pp. 146, 447; volume II, pp. 757-758 > - medical certificate to retire from Confederate States Army, 17 February 1864 > - correspondence, 1885-1899, Records of the Bureau of Indian Affairs (RG 75), National > Archives, Washington, D.C. > - biographical sketch of John W. Fowler, Goodspeed's History of Cole, Moniteau, Morgan, > Benton, Miller, Maries, and Osage Counties, Missouri, 1889, p. 708-709 > >Sarah Hannah (Fowler) Rainwater [1839-1937] > - biographical sketch, manuscript in Missouri Historical Society, St. Louis, Mo. > - noted, Walter B. Stevens, The Fourth City, 1764-1909, vol. I, p. 1048 > - biographical sketch of John W. Fowler, Goodspeed's History of Cole, Moniteau, Morgan, > Benton, Miller, Maries, and Osage Counties, Missouri, 1889, p. 708-709 > >Maybe I can send them a copy of what I have and see if it is different from their memoir. I expect that it is the same, but may not be. > >Ross Cameron > >>>> "Susan Chance-Rainwater" <scr@ncc.com> 06/16/99 11:05PM >>> > >I don't know if anyone on the mailing list is a descendant of Major Charles C. >Rainwater, CSA Ordinance & Artillary officer. If there is a descendant about, >you might be interested in the manuscript of Mrs. Charles C. Rainwater, his >widow, which is held by Duke University Special Collections. > >http://scriptorium.lib.duke.edu/ > >It is a mere $8.00 to get a copy. > >Most of the document is a Civil War memoir. The genealogical info follows: > >Mrs. Rainwater's father was Samuel Fowler of Maryland, who resettled in >Cole Camp, Renton Co., MO. His daughter, whose first name is never given, >married Charles C. Rainwater of Ray Co., MO in Sept 1858. She says that >her husband's parents "were of Carolina and Tennessee stock". > >The remainder is the story of her Civil War experiences. > >Best, >scr > >_____________________________________ > >http://www.ncc.com/humans/scr/index.html >http://www.chronography.com/index.html >_____________________________________ > > > >==== RAINWATER Mailing List ==== >Many subscribers to this list specialize in certain States >and Counties. If you need information, post the specific >location you need and ask for assistance. > > ! >! > ! >! > ! >! > > > >==== RAINWATER Mailing List ==== >If you have a suggestion how this list can better serve you, >send suggestions to the listowner: >schimmel@northlink.com >

Found these RAINWATER's listed at this site. Has an excellent search engine. Typed in Rainwater and the following names pulled up. Hope it might help someone. The address is: http://www.insolwwb.net/~egerdes/ 45th Arkansas Calvary These men were enlisted in Lawrence Co, Powhatan or New Hope Church RAINWATER, MARION, PVT - CO F - age 24, born AL RAINWATER, RILEY, CPL - CO F - age 19, born AL RAINWATER, T., PVT - CO C - age 22, born AL RAINWATER, WILLIAM L. Co C, 34th Ark Inf, CSA  Confederate Cemetery, Fayetteville, AR 45TH ARKANSAS CAVALRY REGIMENTAL HEADQUARTERS FIELD AND STAFF OFFICERS, ETAL RAINWATER, WILLIAM PVT AGE 36 Born TN Enr in Independence Co, AR Those members of the 45th Ark Cavalry Regt who enrolled in Independence County are as follows: RAINWATER, JAMES H. Pvt - Co E, Age 23 Born TN

Susan, Major Charles Cicero Rainwater and Sarah Hannah Fowler Rainwater had no children. He was a first cousin of my g-g-grandmother, Lucinda Caroline (Rainwater) Leabo. Early in my research, I thought his father, Moses Fowler Rainwater (a relative of Sarah's family) was my Lucinda's father also, but turned out to be her uncle. I have several items on C. C. and Sarah. I wonder if the sketch at Duke is the same as the one at the Missouri Historical Society in St. Louis (see below). C. C. was a prominent businessman in St. Louis and also a leader in the Confederate Veterans organizations. I also have recently received copies of records on them which were donated by Fowler relatives to the Western Historical Manuscript Collection at the University of Missouri -- Rolla which I have not yet added to the list below. Charles Cicero Rainwater [1838-1902] - obituary, "Maj. Rainwater Dead" in St. Louis Daily Globe-Democrat, 11 November 1902, p. - obituary, "Major Rainwater's Death Was Sudden" in The [St. Louis] Republic, 11 November 1902, p. - application for membership in Society of Sons of the Revolution (SR) - biographical sketch and noted, Walter B. Stevens, The Fourth City, 1764-1909, volume I, pp. 146, 447; volume II, pp. 757-758 - medical certificate to retire from Confederate States Army, 17 February 1864 - correspondence, 1885-1899, Records of the Bureau of Indian Affairs (RG 75), National Archives, Washington, D.C. - biographical sketch of John W. Fowler, Goodspeed's History of Cole, Moniteau, Morgan, Benton, Miller, Maries, and Osage Counties, Missouri, 1889, p. 708-709 Sarah Hannah (Fowler) Rainwater [1839-1937] - biographical sketch, manuscript in Missouri Historical Society, St. Louis, Mo. - noted, Walter B. Stevens, The Fourth City, 1764-1909, vol. I, p. 1048 - biographical sketch of John W. Fowler, Goodspeed's History of Cole, Moniteau, Morgan, Benton, Miller, Maries, and Osage Counties, Missouri, 1889, p. 708-709 Maybe I can send them a copy of what I have and see if it is different from their memoir. I expect that it is the same, but may not be. Ross Cameron >>> "Susan Chance-Rainwater" <scr@ncc.com> 06/16/99 11:05PM >>> I don't know if anyone on the mailing list is a descendant of Major Charles C. Rainwater, CSA Ordinance & Artillary officer. If there is a descendant about, you might be interested in the manuscript of Mrs. Charles C. Rainwater, his widow, which is held by Duke University Special Collections. http://scriptorium.lib.duke.edu/ It is a mere $8.00 to get a copy. Most of the document is a Civil War memoir. The genealogical info follows: Mrs. Rainwater's father was Samuel Fowler of Maryland, who resettled in Cole Camp, Renton Co., MO. His daughter, whose first name is never given, married Charles C. Rainwater of Ray Co., MO in Sept 1858. She says that her husband's parents "were of Carolina and Tennessee stock". The remainder is the story of her Civil War experiences. Best, scr _____________________________________ http://www.ncc.com/humans/scr/index.html http://www.chronography.com/index.html _____________________________________ ==== RAINWATER Mailing List ==== Many subscribers to this list specialize in certain States and Counties. If you need information, post the specific location you need and ask for assistance. ! ! ! ! ! !

I don't know if anyone on the mailing list is a descendant of Major Charles C. Rainwater, CSA Ordinance & Artillary officer. If there is a descendant about, you might be interested in the manuscript of Mrs. Charles C. Rainwater, his widow, which is held by Duke University Special Collections. http://scriptorium.lib.duke.edu/ It is a mere $8.00 to get a copy. Most of the document is a Civil War memoir. The genealogical info follows: Mrs. Rainwater's father was Samuel Fowler of Maryland, who resettled in Cole Camp, Renton Co., MO. His daughter, whose first name is never given, married Charles C. Rainwater of Ray Co., MO in Sept 1858. She says that her husband's parents "were of Carolina and Tennessee stock". The remainder is the story of her Civil War experiences. Best, scr _____________________________________ http://www.ncc.com/humans/scr/index.html http://www.chronography.com/index.html _____________________________________

Hi all, sorry if any of you are on more than one of the maillist addressed but have seen these names on one or more several times so am posting to all. Yesterday I was busy researching in Indiana State Library online and noted the following Kentucky names that I have seen here before and thought that someone might be interested. All families are found in Daviess County and in the Township noted (to narrow any search you might make). Elmore Township: Joseph B Van Meter 57 yrs Farmer Born VA Jane W. 58 NC Nathaniel Van Meter 25 Farmer IN Jane Van Meter 21 IN Emmet 3 IN Thomas 1 IN James Van Meter 40 Farmer KY Elizabeth 31 IN (5 Children ages 11, 9, 7, 6, 1 ) IN Madison Twship John Van Meter 33 Farmer IN Dorina Van Meter 28 KY Elmore Twship Isaac Gadberry 32 Farmer IN (Family) John Gadberry 41 Farmer NC Deliah Gadberry 43 KY Elizabeth Gadberry 62 NC William Gadberry 35 Farmer KY Nancy Gadberry 27 IN Reeve Twnship Benjamin Prater 21 Farmer KY Henry Prater 13 KY (Living with John Chandler Family age 27 Farmer KY) James Hardin 44 KY Ellen Hardin 43 KY Ellin Hardin 13 KY Nancy Hardin 10 IN Hope this helps someone with their research! Hal, an Ohioan living in sunny Northern California.

Hi, I am repeating my question from a month ago. I am looking for any information at all on Tom Rainwater probably from Oklahoma. He had a daughter named Marie Therese Rainwater (or Mary Jane Rainwater) who married Paul Donley. Paul Donley was born Jan 9, 1889, and died in March 1965. He is listed in the SSDI as last known address being in Phoenix, Arizona. If anyone can help me with these people, I would appreciate it. I appreciate all the info from the mailing list, but until I can get beyond these names, I do not know which direction to go next. Thank you. Cindy _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

The film # at the FHC is 0896565 and is 613 pgs long.The index to the book is on film # 0908530 item 5. The surname index was prepared by Jane Prather Potter for the Tip O' Texas Genealogical Society (Harlingen,Tx) in 1983. Glidie -----Original Message----- From: Susan Chance-Rainwater <scr@ncc.com> To: RAINWATER-L@rootsweb.com <RAINWATER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, June 11, 1999 11:46 AM Subject: Re: FW: [RAINWATER-L] Rev. James Rainwater Spartanburgh SC >On Fri, 11 Jun 1999 12:33:50 -0500, BETTY L. CAPPS wrote: > >> I have no need to go to the library after all. I just pulled this from my e-mail >files and it will tell you what you want to know. Perhaps, if you wish to see the >book you might order it through interlibrary loan. > >>This article was taken from >>"HISTORY OF THE BAPTIST DENOMINATION IN GEORGIA" with Biographical >>Compendium and Portrait Gallery of Baptist Ministers and Other Georgia >>Baptists, and compiled for the Christian Index and Published by Jas. P. >>Harrison & Co., Printers and Publishers, 1881, Atlanta, GA. The article is >>listed verbatim: JAMES RAINWATER: This venerable father in Israel . . . > > >This is the very one! Thanks so much for the help! >Susan > >_____________________________________ > >http://www.ncc.com/humans/scr/index.html >http://www.chronography.com/index.html >_____________________________________ > > > >==== RAINWATER Mailing List ==== >Approximately 3 people are subscribing/unsubscribing from this >list each week. Periodically submit your family queries to >reach new subscribers. >

On Fri, 11 Jun 1999 12:33:50 -0500, BETTY L. CAPPS wrote: > I have no need to go to the library after all. I just pulled this from my e-mail files and it will tell you what you want to know. Perhaps, if you wish to see the book you might order it through interlibrary loan. >This article was taken from >"HISTORY OF THE BAPTIST DENOMINATION IN GEORGIA" with Biographical >Compendium and Portrait Gallery of Baptist Ministers and Other Georgia >Baptists, and compiled for the Christian Index and Published by Jas. P. >Harrison & Co., Printers and Publishers, 1881, Atlanta, GA. The article is >listed verbatim: JAMES RAINWATER: This venerable father in Israel . . . This is the very one! Thanks so much for the help! Susan _____________________________________ http://www.ncc.com/humans/scr/index.html http://www.chronography.com/index.html _____________________________________

Susan, I have seen this before.  There is some detail about this in book on Rev Richard Phillips who married Delilah Rainwater by Eloise Groover Lovell. Should be in the GA Archives.  This is from something printed in the 1880s detailing the most prominent Baptist ministers during the first 40 years of the Southern Baptist Church.  It appeared in several of the annual minutes of the Hightower Association and the Chattahoochee Association and evenually in the BAPTIST LEADER. Mrs Lovell (now deceased) gives a good account of this in a chapter of her book and more can be found at the library at Mercer University in Macon, GA/  Believe both Job and James Rainwater were mentioned.  Of course, there were two James who were preachers of some renown.  JAMES AND JAMES E. RAINWATER.  James E. was the brother of my ggg- gf, GABRIEL RAINWATER.  They were the sons of LEVI RAINWATER. Hope I have been of some help. Don Pruitt > > I have an old photocopy, made about 25 or 30 years n Pruitt >=20 > I have an old photocopy, made about 25 or 30 years=20

I have an old photocopy, made about 25 or 30 years ago from my husband's grandfather's files. It is a profile of James Rainwater (the preacher) and the page header says "Biographical Sketches of Prominent Baptists". There is no other information about the book or publication on the page. Can anyone tell me the title of the book, author or editor, and publication date? Most appreciated. scr _____________________________________ http://www.ncc.com/humans/scr/index.html http://www.chronography.com/index.html _____________________________________

If anyone has any information about this document, please let us all know. Thanks, Eunice << "Biographical Sketches of Prominent Baptists". >>

-----Original Message----- From: Glidie R. Mobley <grm@castlenet.com> To: RH128212@aol.com <RH128212@aol.com> Date: Friday, June 04, 1999 8:09 PM Subject: Re: [RAINWATER-L] NC/SC Rainwaters >Molton Rainwater was bn Jul 1885- Marlboro Co.,SC. He was >the son of John R and Sarah (Isabella) Rainwater. On the 1920 >census for Richmond Co,NC he is listed with wife "Dora" and >7 children. John R. was bn Sep 1850, the son of James and >Laura (Turner) Rainwater. This group seemed to do back and >forth from NC to SC, alternating census years. I census they'd >be in SC; the next in NC. I have names and addresses of several >people doing research on this line. I believe the father of James >is Joshua but haven't proven it yet. >Glidie (Rainwater) Mobley > >-----Original Message----- >From: RH128212@aol.com <RH128212@aol.com> >To: RAINWATER-L@rootsweb.com <RAINWATER-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Friday, June 04, 1999 1:21 PM >Subject: [RAINWATER-L] NC/SC Rainwaters > > >> Looking for information on MOLTON RAINWATER b circa 1880's in >>Rockingham ,NC m VERA GARRIS in either NC/SC . >>. >> Father of MOLTON RAINWATER was JOHN RAINWATER >> Most of descendants of known descendants of this RAINWATER line now >live >>in the ROCKINGHAM,NC(Richmond County) or in areas in and around Cheraw ><SC. >>Also many live in the Charlotte,NC area. >>Looking for info on the parents of JOHN W? RAINWATER ,as well as MOLTON >>RAINWATER. >>RH NCarolina >> >> >>==== RAINWATER Mailing List ==== >>If you want to get off the list send the one-word message: >> UNSUBSCRIBE to: >>rainwater-L-request@rootsweb.com. It's all automatic. >> >

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Looking for information on MOLTON RAINWATER b circa 1880's in Rockingham ,NC m VERA GARRIS in either NC/SC . . Father of MOLTON RAINWATER was JOHN RAINWATER Most of descendants of known descendants of this RAINWATER line now live in the ROCKINGHAM,NC(Richmond County) or in areas in and around Cheraw <SC. Also many live in the Charlotte,NC area. Looking for info on the parents of JOHN W? RAINWATER ,as well as MOLTON RAINWATER. RH NCarolina

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With considerable help from several people, particularly Susan Chance-Rainwater, here is the second take on the Miles Rainwaters of the world. I am restricting the list to people born before 1900. There are four people born around 1800 who named sons Miles Rainwater: Miles Rainwater (1787-1826), James Rainwater the blacksmith, James Rainwater the preacher, and William Rainwater (1774-1825). Admitting the unlikelihood that both Jameses had the same father, I separated out the preacher in my first list. Dan Bruce, however, thinks, with some reason, that the preacher, rather than the blacksmith, was the brother of the first Miles. I still think the reverse, particularly because Miles's estate contained some unusual blacksmith-related items for a preacher to have (Miles also was a minister, and James the preacher followed him in his church). Another reason is that the church records say that Miles was followed in the church by his cousin, not his brother. However, the same records gave Miles the wrong wife, so what can we believe? My biggest error in the first list was trying to make William (1774-1825) the brother of Miles and of James the blacksmith, by hoping that his birth year of 1774 was in error. The reason for trying to make them siblings is that it would be nice if all the Miles Rainwaters descended from James Rainwater (c.1770-c.1835) and his wife Nancy Miles (c.1775-c.1847), as Nancy's last name appears to be the ultimate source of this first name. There were NO people named Miles in the Rainwater family prior to the marriage of James with Nancy Miles. However, I already had Zebulon Miles Rainwater, son of James the preacher, left over, so that design was flawed from the start. William Rainwater, as it turns out, is the son of James and Catherine Anne (Regan) Rainwater and presumably the brother of James (husband of Nancy Miles). At worst, one line of Mileses was named after an uncle-nephew relationship rather than father-son. Consequently, in this second take I am giving separate numbers to each of these four Miles progenitors. Their sons would be designated by a number and a letter (1a), the next generation by a number, a letter, and a number (1a1), and so on. There are three isolated Miles Rainwaters. (1) Robert-William-James-Milas W. (1816-1895)-Miles Murphey. It is clear that this Miles drew his name from his father Milas and presumably had nothing to do with the Nancy Miles source. I am not sure of the accuracy of this line back to Robert. (2) Robert-John-John-John-William-Wilkes Berrywine-Miles Avery (1864-1925). This man occurs later, and the source of his name may be from distant cousins and ultimately Nancy Miles, or from an entirely unrelated source. Again, he does not seem to have relevance to the Nancy Miles source. (3) The Stewart Co., TN, census of 1860 lists a John H. Rainwater (b. NC c. 1804), wife Frances (Bird), and son Miles Rainwater (b. c. 1846). I do not yet know where these people fit in, but it is possible that they are descendants of one of the four progenitors. Here then are the four men and their Miles descendants. I include everyone with the name Miles. Men with other names are included when that had a descendant named Miles. Again, I solicit comments, corrections, and additions. 1. Miles Rainwater (1787-1826) m. Nancy Edwards (1788-1855) 1a. Miles Rainwater (1815-1890) m. Sarah Edwards 1b. Silas Mercer Rainwater (1825-1902) m. Mary Jane Hindman 1b1. Miles Rainwater (1857-1911) m. Sarah Frances Allen 2. James Rainwater the blacksmith ( - ) m. Apposley Cunningham 2a. Miles Rainwater (1816- ) m. 2a1. Miles M. Rainwter (1858- ) m. 2b. Eber Rainwater ( - ) m. 2b1. James Daniel Rainwater ( - ) m. 2b1a. Miles Frank Rainwater (1894- ) m. 3. William Rainwater (1774-1825) m. Martha Hodges 3a. Miles Rainwater (1818-1884) m. Frances Chaney 3b. William Howard Rainwater (1813-c.1889) m. Minerva Ann Rayeborn 3b1. John Raleigh Rainwater (1841-c.1910) m. (1) Genetta Thomas, (2) Rhoda Ann Cole 3b1a. Miles Eber Rainwater (1863-1941) m. Laura Almina Frazier 3b2. Miles Rainwater (1843-1927) m. (1) Permelia Emily Cain, (2) Elizabeth Warner 3c. Bartholomew Rainwater (1894-1889) m. Nancy McLaughlin 3c1. Miles Rainwater (1836-c.1914) m. Cornelia E. 3c2. Josiah Wilson Rainwater (1843-1934) m. Elizabeth Jane Weddle 3c2a. Miles Rainwater (1876-1956) m. Ollie Frances Cooper 4. James Rainwater the preacher ( - ) m. 4a. Zebulon Miles Rainwater (c.1823- ) m. One interesting point is the presence of the name Eber in the lines of both James the blacksmith (his son 2b. Eber) and William (his great-grandson 3b1a. Miles Ever). Does anyone know where this unusual name comes from? Joseph B. Lambert Department of Chemistry Northwestern University 2145 Sheridan Road Evanston, IL 60208-3113 Telephone 847-491-5437 Fax 847-491-7713 E-mail lambert@casbah.acns.nwu.edu or jlambert@nwu.edu Webpage http://www.chem.nwu.edu/~lambert/ (best with Netscape 3.0 or higher)