Glidie - I have info on Robert Allen Rainwater and descendants. I'll try to get it posted in the next day or so. Bliss

Hi all, got the message from Jo Mills. Malinda is the daughter of Mastin Crawford Rainwater and his wife Martha Jane McCarter. Mastin is the son of James and Catherine (McCall) Rainwater. Mastin Crawford was bn 18 Jun 1822 in Jefferson Co.,Tn He md Martha Jane 20 Jan 1844 (by Vineyard Brimer,jp) He died 25 Nov 1863 in Crawford Co.,Ark. Martha Jane was the d/o Jeremy McCarter and ?(don't know yet) Martha was bn 10 Jun 1824 and died 19 Mar 1881 in Crawford Co.,Ark. Their ch; Andrew-age 3 1850 (not on 1860) Louisa Catherine-age 14 1860 Malinda-age 10 1860 James S-age 7 1860 Margaret E-age 5 1860 Thomas H.E.-age 3 1860 Nancy E-age 2 1860 Robert Allen-bn 24 Jul 1861-md 1st-23 Feb 1879 Kathryn Wyatt-5 ch she d abt 1898/99. He md 2nd Mrs Melissa (Weaver) Mizer 6 Apr 1902 -6 ch. Robert died 8 Mar 1953 in Sapulpa,Creek,Okla and all three are buried in Stroud Cem;Stroud,Lincoln,Okla. I have more back on James and Catherine's descendants,but nothing down to present day. Do you have anything on Jacob and Malinda? Glidie Glidie

Hi Joe, Sorry I've been so long answering,but have been really,really busy. Our daughter,Pam, in SL is expecting twins and the Dr put her on cmplete bed rest,so we brought our 3 year old grand-son down here with us for 3 weeks. After we took him back,it was almost the 4th of Jul. On the evening of the 4th we drove into Price (30 miles away) to watch the fireworks at the fairgrounds. when we returned home, we found that our 13 year old Collie had fallen down stairs. We worked with her for almost all week because she couldn't keep her balance and had to be carried up and down stairs, she wouldn't eat and kept getting weaker.We had almost decided to have her put to sleep, but decided to try one more time. We took her to the vet again, and he gave her a shot of steroids and put her on a pill for her appetite, and she's slowly improving. She still gets dizzy and falls down if she tries to shake her head but I think she's going to make it. At least a little longer,anyway. As far as I can tell, I think you've got the Miles' correct. As for who Benjamin's father is-a lot of people would like to know. However,I think he was a son of John but not Susannah as his mother.I'll have to go back through my file on John and also Benjamin's and see if there's a clue any where. Will let you know. Glidie -----Original Message----- From: Joseph B. Lambert <lambert@casbah.acns.nwu.edu> To: grm@castlenet.com <grm@castlenet.com> Date: Saturday, July 03, 1999 11:29 AM >Glidie-- > >Here is the corrected list of Miles. I still need to know how Benjamin >fits in. I stuck that group at the bottom. > > Joe > > >> The following is a list of all the men named Miles Rainwater who were born >>before 1900. They all go back to four people born around 1800 who named >>sons Miles Rainwater: Miles Rainwater (1787-1826), James Rainwater the >>blacksmith, >>James Rainwater the preacher, and William Rainwater (1774-1825). Admitting >>the unlikelihood that both Jameses had the same father, I separated out the >>preacher in my first list. Dan Bruce, however, thinks, with some reason, >>that the preacher, rather than the blacksmith, was the brother of the first >>Miles. I still think the reverse, particularly because Miles's estate >>contained some unusual >>blacksmith-related items for a preacher to have (Miles also was a >minister, and >>James the preacher followed him in his church). Another reason is that the >>church records say that Miles was followed in the church by his cousin, not >>his brother. However, the same records gave Miles the wrong wife, so what >>can we believe? >> >> It would be nice if all the Miles Rainwaters descended from James >>Rainwater (c.1770-c.1835) and his wife Nancy Miles (c.1775-c.1847), as >>Nancy's last name appears to be the ultimate source of this first name. >>There were NO people named Miles in the Rainwater family prior to the >>marriage of James with Nancy Miles. However, both the James Rainwaters >>named sons Miles, and we have concluded that they were not brothers. At >>worst, one line of Mileses was named after an uncle-nephew relationship >>rather than father-son. Consequently, I am giving separate numbers to each >>of these four Miles progenitors. Their sons are designated by a number and >>a letter (1a), the next generation by a number, a letter, and a number >>(1a1), and so on. >> >> There are three isolated Miles Rainwaters. (1) Robert-William-James >>(1790-1871, m. Catherine McCall)-Milas W. (1816-1895, m. (1) Martha >>Profitt, (2) Elizabeth Dicky)-Miles Murphy (1864-1891, m. Hannay Rebecca >>Dandridge McAndrew). It is clear that this Miles drew his name from his >>father Milas and presumably had nothing to do with the Nancy Miles source. >>I am not sure of the accuracy of this line back to Robert. (2) >>Robert-John-John-John-William-Wilkes Berrywine-Miles Avery (1864-1925). >>This man occurs later, and the source of his name may be from distant >>cousins and ultimately Nancy Miles, or from an entirely unrelated source. >>Again, he does not seem to have relevance to the Nancy Miles source. >>Moreover, the name may be in error, as he is listed as Millidge A. >>Rainwater on the 1870 census but Miles in 1880. The name Miles may thus >>have been an elision or nickname. (3) The Stewart Co., TN, census of 1860 >>lists a John H. Rainwater (b. NC c.1804), wife Frances (Bird). Although >>some people list a son Miles Rainwater (b. c. 1846 for this couple, the >>name apparently is in error, as Wiley C.Rainwater, not Miles, was the son. >>We can disregard this group. >> >> Here then are the four men and their Miles descendants. I include >>everyone with the name Miles. Men with other names are included when they >>had a descendant named Miles. Again, I solicit comments, corrections, and >>additions. >> >> >>1. Miles Rainwater (1787-1826) m. Nancy Edwards (1788-1855) >> >>1a. Miles Rainwater (1815-1890) m. (1) Hannah Hindman, (2) Sarah Frances >>Edwards >> >>1b. Silas Mercer Rainwater (1825-1902) m. Mary Jane Hindman >> >>1b1. Miles Rainwater (1857-1911) m. Sarah Frances Allen >> >>2. James Rainwater the blacksmith ( - ) m. Apposley Cunningham >> >>2a. Miles Rainwater (1818-1903) m. (1) Mary Blanchett, (2) Sarah Elizabeth >>Simmons, (3) Sabra Amanda Jane Smith >> >>2a1. Miles M. Rainwater (1862- ) m. Mollie >> >>2b. Eber Rainwater ( - ) m. Sarah Elizabeth Eskew >> >>2b1. Miles Eber Rainwater ( - ) m. Laura Almina Frazier >> >>2b2. James Daniel Rainwater ( - ) m. Lucinda Johnson >> >>2b2a. Miles Franklin Rainwater (1894-1907) m. >> >>3. William Rainwater (1774-1825) m. Martha Hodges >> >>3a. Miles Rainwater (1818-1884) m. Frances Chaney >> >>3b. William Howard Rainwater (1813-c.1889) m. Minerva Ann Rayborn >> >>3b1. John Raleigh Rainwater (1841-c.1910) m. (1) Genetta Thomas, (2) Rhoda >>Ann Cole >> >>3b1a. Miles Evan Rainwater (1863-1941) m. Harriett Elizabeth Davidson >> >>3b2. Miles Rainwater (1843-1927) m. (1) Permelia Emily Cain, (2) Elizabeth >>Warner or Waters, (3) Rebecca Reed or Davis >> >>3c. Bartholomew Rainwater (1894-1889) m. Nancy McLaughlin >> >>3c1. Miles Rainwater (1836-c.1914) m. Cornelia E. >> >>3c2. Josiah Wilson Rainwater (1843-1934) m. Elizabeth Jane Weddle >> >>3c2a. Miles Rainwater (1876-1956) m. Ollie Frances Cooper >> >>4. James Rainwater the preacher (1795-1871) m. Mary Mason >> >>4a. Zebulon Miles Rainwater (c.1823-1857) m. Lillian Thompson >> >>Benjamin Rainwater m. Sarah Williams >>a. Elias Rainwater m. Diana Bearden >>a1. Miles Benjamin Rainwater (1857-1930) >>a2. Edmon E. Rainwater m. (1) ?, (2) Sarah Virginia Poteete >>a2a. Miles M. Rainwater (1895- ) >> > >Joseph B. Lambert >Department of Chemistry >Northwestern University >2145 Sheridan Road >Evanston, IL 60208-3113 >Telephone 847-491-5437 >Fax 847-491-7713 >E-mail lambert@casbah.acns.nwu.edu > or jlambert@nwu.edu >Webpage http://www.chem.nwu.edu/~lambert/ > (best with Netscape 3.0 or higher) >

Hi Julie and maillist members. Don't have any data William Franklin Rainwater born MO. I do have a Benjamin Franklin Rainwater, born 5 Nov 1874 in Camden Co., MO. WFR married Evie Munday. He is buried Park Lawn Cemetery, Kansas City, MO. I have no other infomation as to this family but it may be a start. Suggest looking for Death Certificate/Probate Record/Marriage records etc. Everton Publications says Camden Co has records from 1902 after Court House burned. County was form from Benton and Pulaski co's in 1841. Good luck! Hal, from Northern California!

Sorry folks! For some reason, I am not able to get the message posted into the email regarding Mary Jane and Enoch Rainwater. I have sent an SOS message to Bob, I suppose I am doing something that Rootsweb does not like. For those of you who would like to view the posting, it is in my guestbook on my webpage. Just click the icon that states "Read my Guestbook." Sorry once again! Looking like a fool! Lisa <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/nrainh20/index.html">Our Ancestor Quilt</A>

Another non-subscriber message. When list members answer any of these messages, I would be helpful if the general list was giving a CC of your answer. Thanks. Bob Schimmel, Listowner ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date sent: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 22:30:53 -0700 (PDT) From: JwlsnGms@aol.com To: rainwater-L@rootsweb.com To whom it may concern: My name is Julie Ann Swidwinski and my grandfater is Dewey Eugene Rainwater. I have tried desperately to find information about my grandfather's side of the family only to have gone as far as his parents. I know that his parent's names are Franklin William Rainwater and Carrie Ann Wheeler and that those two got married in 1920 on September 5 in Missouri. Somehow my grandfather ended up here in Michigan but that is all that I know. If you know of any information about them please help me. Sincerely, Julie Ann Swidwinski Jwlsngms@aol.com

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>From a non-subscriber. Please reply directly to him at laddie@gateway.net Thanks! Lisa <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/nrainh20/index.html">Our Ancestor Quilt</A> Hi! My trip to the library at Talladega wasn't very successful, however I am sending you the information I have and if you can put any of it together, I would greatly appreciate it, if you would let me know. My great grandparents were John D and Rebecca Rainwater, they are buried at Pole Bridge Cemetery in Clay Co. Al Their daughter, Florence Rebecca, married my grandfather, Joel Bose Prickett, they are buried at Bethlehem Cemetery in Clay co Al. Also in Pole Bridge Cemetery are the names, J. A. Rainwater 5 May 1874 - 1 Apr 1898, H.A. Rainwater, 20 May 1870 - 26 June 1891, Marshal Rainwater, 10 Oct 1890 -1 Sept 1901, he was the son of H A and L E (Davis) Rainwater & stepson of F B Monroe. Buried in Liberty Cemetery Clay County is Lilian Rainwater 8 Sept 1897 - 5 Feb 1914 ( J E and Mary A on her tombstone). Mary A 10 May 1873 - 16 Aug 1903 (wife of J E). In Lineville Cemetery Clay Co Al is Cynthia Taylor Rainwater 17 Aug - 3 June 1940. I haven't been able to find out how all of these tie together, but I am still searching. Ken

Sorry! Let's try this again!!! Here is another entry from my guestbook. If anyone has any information, Please reply directly to this person! Thanks! Lisa <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/nrainh20/index.html">Our Ancestor Quilt</A> FROM: Christine Klug email:cgenie1@aol.com I am trying to figure out how the Rainwater line ties into my Lassiter/Mathis/Matthews lineage. If you know of anyone who may have that information please email me. I believe that this line may be tied together before 1800. You have a really nice website!!!!! I enjoyed it!!!

Hi group! Here is another entry from my guestbook. If anyone has any information, Please reply directly to this person! Thanks! Lisa <> FROM: Christine Klug email:cgenie1@aol.com

Hi, I was looking through my photos and ran across one of a Jennie Rainwater, in 1918, maybe in Sallisaw, OK, I'm not sure as there isn't a location written on the back. It is a photo of my granny, Leila Eskew, her sister Rowena, and brother Elbert, and 3 friends. Elbert Eskew has a tag on his jacket, to go to WW1, so they may be at the train station. The other 3 are Eva Taylor, Jennie Rainwater and Frank Stempson. All appear to be in their teens, though it says Elbert was 20. I assume Jennie was a cousin, but don't know who's family she belongs to. If someone has Jennie, or the others in their family, I will be happy to send a copy of the photo. Yours, Suzi Ryder dsryder@lava.net dsryder@lava.net

This is a really great site!! I have started looking for my roots. I am from the Rainwater line. My Grandfather was Oliver Franklin Rainwater. He married Nellie Towell who was born in Ripley County, MO. He had brothers named: Bryant, Arthur, Larkin & Burdett. He had two sisters: Clara & Minnie. I believe that his father's name was Fisher and his mother's name was Anna Butler. (Info from a great lady named Glidie!) Glidie also mentioned that Fisher's father was John P. If you have any info on my line, I would love to hear from you! Thank you! FROM: Cendy Hensley Nelson jnels41@msn.com

Galen Weddle and Sally Rainwater are my great great grandparents. FROM: Gerald Loswe gm1965@aol.com

When I was stationed in Germany Rainwater was considered a translation of the German name Ragginwasser. (I don't know if the spelling is right.) My father, Franklin William Rainwater, was born in Arkansas, but lived in north eastern Missouri. Worked as a sharecropper and on the railroad. He married my mother, Carrie Ann Wheeler, in Bragg City, Missouri, September 5, 1920. Would like to learn more about my ancestors. FROM: Dewet Eugene Rainwater drainw122@aol.com

I am a descendant of the Rainwater(s) who came from Jefferson Co., TN to Marion Co., TN and then to Wayne Co., MO. To my knowledge, the first Rainwater(s) in Wayne Co., MO were Vincent (born c. 1792)and his wife Margaret, two of their daughters Cyntha & Elizabeth and a son Francis Asbury Rainwater (born c. 1829). Francis married Sarah Ann Moore, 18 Oct 1845 in Jefferson Co., TN. Their children, Aaron V., Mary, Meyra "Jane" & Rufus were born in Marion Co., TN between 1848 & 1852. Christopher, William, Henry C., George Washington & Thomas B. were born in Wayne Co., MO between 1855 and 1865. ANY information concerning this family would be much appreciated. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- FROM: Brenda Louise Rainwater Garner brenran@ldd.net

Fellow Researchers, Hi! I have had several Rainwater inquiries to my guestbook the past few days. I am forwarding them on over to this list, so the next few emails are postings to my guestbook from those people. Hopefully, someone can help these people out! Happy Hunting! Lisa Rainwater <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/nrainh20/index.html">Our Ancestor Quilt</A>

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Message from a non-subscriber******************************** From: darain@prodigy.net Name: Dan Allen Rainwate: From: Fayetteville, Ga. Have roots from the Rev James Rainwater. Also have relatives living in what was old Campbell County. Also know Brocks and Eskews. Would like to see what you have on Rev James Rainwaters decedent line. Thank You. Dan Rainwater

Hello- I am researching an ancestor (who is a Rainwater according to family tradition) who married John Lewallen (b. 1811 in North Carolina). She is supposed to be the sister of Matthew Rainwater (m. Mahalia “Hallie” Jane Snapp). Since I can't find out anything on my ancestor, I thought maybe I could back into some information. So, I am trying Matthew. Matthew and Hallie had several children who married Lewallens. Can anyone tell me anything about these Lewallens? They are: Moses Alexander Lewallen, m. Margaret Elizabeth Rainwater 10/25/1856. Columbus Lewellen, m. Mary Evaline Rainwater James B. Lewellen, m. Susan Adeline Rainwater 10/6/1881 Thanks for any help. Eunice