Hi Melva, You are definitely right on when you say that these guys really got around!! Regarding Gallant Rains descendants visiting the John Rains in So. CA, I recently learned that Gallant Rains' son John Rains had a son John (by his first wife Eliza/Louisa Pettyjohn) who died in So. CA in 1922 at a veterans' home. I have a copy of his pension file which names his brother George W. Rains (by John Rains' second wife Sarah Jane Plummer) as his next of kin. Anyway, thought it might be possible that this could be the John Rains that the Sonoma County Rains visited on an annual basis rather than the Rancho Cucamunga John Rains who died rather early on, if my memory serves me correctly. Sue Thompson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melva Wheelwright" <melvaw@sonic.net> To: <RAINS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 11:38 PM Subject: [RAINS] Re:They Get Around > As to Rains getting around, one group came (we think) from KY > to MO, formed a wagon train and went to CA (Gallant Rains) > where instead of digging for gold, they created farms right here > where I live in Sonoma County CA. One of this man's relations-- > probably his brother--we don't know--started Rancho Cukamonga > in Southern CA and from what locales tell me, they used to visit > each other once a year. These folks really got around! > Melva Wheelwright >

Sue, As I recall from your aunt here, she claimed that it was Gallant who went to visit in So. Cali. Would that be the right time period for the John in the vets home? Melva Sue Thompson wrote: > Hi Melva, > You are definitely right on when you say that these guys really got around!! > > Regarding Gallant Rains descendants visiting the John Rains in So. CA, I > recently learned that Gallant Rains' son John Rains had a son John (by his > first wife Eliza/Louisa Pettyjohn) who died in So. CA in 1922 at a veterans' > home. I have a copy of his pension file which names his brother George W. > Rains (by John Rains' second wife Sarah Jane Plummer) as his next of kin. > Anyway, thought it might be possible that this could be the John Rains that > the Sonoma County Rains visited on an annual basis rather than the Rancho > Cucamunga John Rains who died rather early on, if my memory serves me > correctly. > > Sue Thompson > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Melva Wheelwright" <melvaw@sonic.net> > To: <RAINS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 11:38 PM > Subject: [RAINS] Re:They Get Around > > > As to Rains getting around, one group came (we think) from KY > > to MO, formed a wagon train and went to CA (Gallant Rains) > > where instead of digging for gold, they created farms right here > > where I live in Sonoma County CA. One of this man's relations-- > > probably his brother--we don't know--started Rancho Cukamonga > > in Southern CA and from what locales tell me, they used to visit > > each other once a year. These folks really got around! > > Melva Wheelwright > > > > ==== RAINS Mailing List ==== > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

Melva, No, the time wouldn't be right for Gallant to visit his grandson John in So. CA. Gallant died in 1883, and John Rains didn't go to the vets' home there until after 1900. The thing that's made me wonder about the Gallant Rains and Cucamonga John Rains connection is that that John Rains was murdered in 1862...only a couple of years after Gallant came to Sonoma County. And that John Rains was 25 years younger than Gallant (he died when he was 33 years old according to historical accounts), a few years younger than Gallant's son John. I'd love to find a connection that could be documented, though, because it would certainly add color to my family tree!! Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melva Wheelwright" <melvaw@sonic.net> To: <RAINS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 10:04 AM Subject: Re: [RAINS] Re:They Get Around > Sue, > As I recall from your aunt here, she claimed that it was > Gallant who went to visit in So. Cali. Would that be the > right time period for the John in the vets home? > Melva > > Sue Thompson wrote: > > > Hi Melva, > > You are definitely right on when you say that these guys really got around!! > > > > Regarding Gallant Rains descendants visiting the John Rains in So. CA, I > > recently learned that Gallant Rains' son John Rains had a son John (by his > > first wife Eliza/Louisa Pettyjohn) who died in So. CA in 1922 at a veterans' > > home. I have a copy of his pension file which names his brother George W. > > Rains (by John Rains' second wife Sarah Jane Plummer) as his next of kin. > > Anyway, thought it might be possible that this could be the John Rains that > > the Sonoma County Rains visited on an annual basis rather than the Rancho > > Cucamunga John Rains who died rather early on, if my memory serves me > > correctly. > > > > Sue Thompson > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Melva Wheelwright" <melvaw@sonic.net> > > To: <RAINS-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 11:38 PM > > Subject: [RAINS] Re:They Get Around > > > > > As to Rains getting around, one group came (we think) from KY > > > to MO, formed a wagon train and went to CA (Gallant Rains) > > > where instead of digging for gold, they created farms right here > > > where I live in Sonoma County CA. One of this man's relations-- > > > probably his brother--we don't know--started Rancho Cukamonga > > > in Southern CA and from what locales tell me, they used to visit > > > each other once a year. These folks really got around! > > > Melva Wheelwright > > > > > > > ==== RAINS Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > > > ==== RAINS Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! >

Ask Betty and Lenore about this story. It should be good! Melva Sue Thompson wrote: > Melva, > No, the time wouldn't be right for Gallant to visit his grandson John in So. > CA. Gallant died in 1883, and John Rains didn't go to the vets' home there > until after 1900. The thing that's made me wonder about the Gallant Rains > and Cucamonga John Rains connection is that that John Rains was murdered in > 1862...only a couple of years after Gallant came to Sonoma County. And that > John Rains was 25 years younger than Gallant (he died when he was 33 years > old according to historical accounts), a few years younger than Gallant's > son John. I'd love to find a connection that could be documented, though, > because it would certainly add color to my family tree!! > > Sue > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Melva Wheelwright" <melvaw@sonic.net> > To: <RAINS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 10:04 AM > Subject: Re: [RAINS] Re:They Get Around > > > Sue, > > As I recall from your aunt here, she claimed that it was > > Gallant who went to visit in So. Cali. Would that be the > > right time period for the John in the vets home? > > Melva > > > > Sue Thompson wrote: > > > > > Hi Melva, > > > You are definitely right on when you say that these guys really got > around!! > > > > > > Regarding Gallant Rains descendants visiting the John Rains in So. CA, I > > > recently learned that Gallant Rains' son John Rains had a son John (by > his > > > first wife Eliza/Louisa Pettyjohn) who died in So. CA in 1922 at a > veterans' > > > home. I have a copy of his pension file which names his brother George > W. > > > Rains (by John Rains' second wife Sarah Jane Plummer) as his next of > kin. > > > Anyway, thought it might be possible that this could be the John Rains > that > > > the Sonoma County Rains visited on an annual basis rather than the > Rancho > > > Cucamunga John Rains who died rather early on, if my memory serves me > > > correctly. > > > > > > Sue Thompson > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Melva Wheelwright" <melvaw@sonic.net> > > > To: <RAINS-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 11:38 PM > > > Subject: [RAINS] Re:They Get Around > > > > > > > As to Rains getting around, one group came (we think) from KY > > > > to MO, formed a wagon train and went to CA (Gallant Rains) > > > > where instead of digging for gold, they created farms right here > > > > where I live in Sonoma County CA. One of this man's relations-- > > > > probably his brother--we don't know--started Rancho Cukamonga > > > > in Southern CA and from what locales tell me, they used to visit > > > > each other once a year. These folks really got around! > > > > Melva Wheelwright > > > > > > > > > > ==== RAINS Mailing List ==== > > > > > > ============================== > > > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > > > > > > ==== RAINS Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > > > > ==== RAINS Mailing List ==== > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com