Dear Vergil: I didn't mean to throw you a curve with Elizabeth and Lucy Raines. Actually I thoughtI might find some other members of this family. I have been tracing for almost five years and have found nothing regarding Elizabeth and Lucy Raines and I don't think I have ever asked for info on them in query form. Thanks for the info on Hartwell. If you would kindly give me the names of his siblings I would be most apreciative. Thanks, Vivienne (Vivipoet@aol.com)