Thank you for that quick response. I have researched the Graham/Raines and their William would be way too young for mine. My William would have been born 1760-62. I also think my William was in So. Carolina at some point because his son John presumably went to So. Carolina, married Margaret Dula b. abt. 1785 in So. Carolina and brought her to N.C. This data was sent to me by the research librarian in R.C.N.C. I'm sure her family was known before by William. I would presume that my William would NOT be at home in the 1790 census anyway. He had at least 2 if not 3 children of his own by then, John, Lewellen and Susanah. Patsy(Martha, my ancestor) was born in 1795 and Mary (Polly) 1797. In 1800 all his children were born, this I know. I am not joking when I say I cannot find any connection to any of the Randolph Co. Raines. I still think I am on the right track. John died in R.C.N.C.1845, Lewellen died before John in Tenn. I think, (per Merlva Wheelwright)as his children were heirs of John. Susannah and Polly as far as I know, stayed in N.C.? My ancestor, Patsey Raines b. 1795 married my great grandfather, Henry Leonard in 1810. several of their children were born in N.C. and in 1829 they migrated to Indiana and in 1849 migrated again to Iowa. I have searched and searched for William's death date to no avail. Both he and their mother were deceased in 1845 as they was not mentioned in Johns estate settlement. I have all those papers from R.C. John died intestate (without issue) so there was quite a stir among the relatives to aquire all thay could!! Later Mary masdal@graceba.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "rraines" <rraines@prodigy.net> To: <RAINS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2001 11:32 AM Subject: Re: [RAINS] Finallly back on line > Mary, > George Rains, born about 1750/53 who married Rosannah Graham had the > following family. Joab born 8/12/1770, Asahel born 5/5/1772 then between > this date and before the 1790 census they had the following Children: > George, Hannah, James, William, John, and Robert. There were seven sons and > one daughter listed on the census of 1790 so all had to be born prior to > that. Would this William fit your need. This family I lost for a few years > after 1800 census but found all of these children inherited from Richard > Graham in 1805/6 on deeds in book 11 page 198 and 11 pages 255 and 256. The > first was listed in 1805 and the later in about six months in 1806. These > people as a family started leaving R.C. N.C. at this time and some were in > S.C., Tenn., and Ohio. Some of their children went on to IN. and Texas. If > this looks helpful I could probably help a little more. > Bob > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mary Stephenson <masdal@graceba.net> > To: <RAINS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2001 5:40 AM > Subject: Re: [RAINS] Finallly back on line > > > > I know my William is in N.C. later on, but he had to come from somewhere. > > It is well noted that the Wynne family and that particular Raines family > > eased off down into N.C. > > They kept on buying land further down on each move. > > I can find no connection what-so-ever with any of the Raines that were in > > R.C.N.C. at that time. I have been researching the libraries and the LDS > > library here and we have high hopes that we have finally made the > > connection. I will know more Monday when I go back to the LDS library > with > > further data. I have a person who is a long standing church member there > > and well aquainted with all the data helping me and she also thinks with > > what they have and what I have that we will make the connection. She said > > she is willing to bet HER genealogy on it. > > If you have more on the Raines/Wynne's than are in the genealogy books and > > what is available at the LDS library, then sure, I want all the data I can > > conjure up. You know us Raines folks.. we never have enough information > to > > suit us. > > In the past 6 weeks while I was off-line, I went over all the data I have > > collected on my Raines for the last 27 years, and found there is > absolutely, > > no information to connect my William Raines to any of the R.C.N.C. that > came > > out of Caroline Co., Va. That is when I widened my search to other > counties > > in Va. and especially into Surry and Albermarle Cos. > > Angelica Wynne married William Raines(he has no birthdate) and they > produced > > William Raines b. June 25, 1739. He married Jane Green and they produced > > (who I think is my) William Raines b. Feb. 10, 1762. > > As to right now, we cannot go back further, but hopefully can pick up on > > these families soon and find where they all scattered to. > > All comments welcome! > > Mary masdal@graceba.net > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <baxter60@aol.com> > > To: <RAINS-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 10:44 PM > > Subject: Re: [RAINS] Finallly back on line > > > > > > > No you are searching the wrong place in Virginia. You're William is the > > one > > > in NC. You do have you're dates about right, I believe. There were > several > > > Williams in RCNC but they are hard to date. Now if you insist, I can > send > > > what I have on the William who married into Wynne family; however, this > > > family has been researched pretty well. Let me know, Vergil Raines > > > > > > > > ==== RAINS Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > > > > > > ==== RAINS Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB >