Bob found someone else who you might want to contact pekunkel@arn.net descends from Martin van Buren . what is your Raines linage. i have mine back to the birth date of 1793 but cant seem to go back any further mine is Dolores Raines Sutton 1938 Okla Robert Colombus Raines 1893-1977[my Dad]Ark-Mo-Okla John Allen Raines 1854-1930 Ala-Ark -Mo- okla William Bailey Raines 1819-1880s Ala-Ark-Mo. James Raines 1793 -1870s S.C.-Ala James showed up in Lawrence Co ala in 1818 where he married Milla Barton then moved to walker co ala and remained there the rest of his life. he had a bro Robert who moved where ever he did. i THINK he also had a bro. William who was in Lawrence co in 1818 also but havent proven this. have not proven who their parents were more later Dolores Raines Sutton ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.