I have wondered abt. Robert and Marry but can absolutely make no Connection to my Rains group. I need a Robert and a Mary badly. They would tie in like a glove to my group. Vergil Raines Baxter60@aol.com Me I'm a NC Rains and Caroline Co., VA. . Problem is I do not know who in VA.

Dolores, it is strange that my father's mother's people came from Edgefield Co., SC and my wife's people also came from there. Actually all my people from every side all lived within 150 miles of each other at the same time. Strange world. My biggest shock came when I discovered that some of my Rains were Loyalist in the RW. even worse( He! He! ) my ggf was as blue as you can get in the Civ. War. So here I am in Texas with Loyalist and Yankee running through my veins. O I love it. Vergil

Dolores, the Robert in this will is my 4-ggf's brother. My 4-ggf, Lawrence Rains,b.1751/52, also for sure had a bro. named Ishmael. He left a will stating Lawrence as a bro. and he also discussed Robert in his will although never calling him a bro. it was a case where Robert was a " jurat ". There was George,Lawrence,Ishmael,John and Robert all being in Randolph Co.,NC at the same time. I can not prove that they were all bros. Actually I do not think so, probably some were cousins. At any rate I can't find there father or fathers. Some claim that a Henry Rains was there father but no proof. The Robert Rains in SC was not part of my group. However he did come out of NC. I wil keep looking for some of your Rains. Vergil Raines Baxter60@aol.com

Liz, In Randolph Do., N.C. in Deed book 11 page 198 and book 11 pages 255 and 256 you will find all of George's children named and it shows what they received. Neither the father or mother are mentioned in these deed. George had gone to Warren Co., TN. and it is believed but not proven that the mother had died. Joab was born 8/12/1770 and Asahel 5/5/1772. All of these children were born before 1790 census, because George on the 1790 census had seven Sons and one daughter. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: <TuchieP@aol.com> To: <RAINS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 11:27 AM Subject: [RAINS] Re: [RAINS/Graham connection > Thanks for sharing your information, Robert, I did not have Asahel's and > James' parents at all nor the rest of their children. This will be a help to > look further on this branch of the family. I really appreciate it. What are > these deeds you mentioned? Do they list the children as heirs or something > like that? > Liz > > > ==== RAINS Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >

Thanks for sharing your information, Robert, I did not have Asahel's and James' parents at all nor the rest of their children. This will be a help to look further on this branch of the family. I really appreciate it. What are these deeds you mentioned? Do they list the children as heirs or something like that? Liz

Sorry -- think a cloud passed over my brain when sending this -- did not mean to send to list. Peggy Wayne & Peggy Horton wrote: > Forgive the delay in thanking you for suggesting ----- > > baxter60@aol.com wrote: > > > Peggy you need to cotact DRains5055 . He is of the Rains family you speak > > of. In fact he is the most knowledgable I know of on your group starting > > with Henry Rains Esq. of Johnston Co., NC. > > > > ==== RAINS Mailing List ==== > > > >

Forgive the delay in thanking you for suggesting I contact DRains5055. I appreciate your taking the time to write and have contacted him. Thanks again, Peggy baxter60@aol.com wrote: > Peggy you need to cotact DRains5055 . He is of the Rains family you speak > of. In fact he is the most knowledgable I know of on your group starting > with Henry Rains Esq. of Johnston Co., NC. > > ==== RAINS Mailing List ==== > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

Liz, Hope it will be alright to call you this as it is the way you signed your note. I would like to introduce you to a little more of your family. Some will debate this but it is true as they were on their grandfathers will. Actually it was not a will but it was two deeds given just as a will in the settlement of property. Their grandparents in this case was Richard and Asnath Graham. I have been unable to prove the Rains grandparents. Father: George Rains Mother: Rosannah Graham Children: Joab Rains Asahel Rains George Rains Hanna (Rains) Woodward James Rains William Rains John Rains Robert Rains Hope this will be of help to you. ----- Original Message ----- From: <TuchieP@aol.com> To: <RAINS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [RAINS] another Robert Rains in Warren Co TN > Hi Cousins, > Seems there are several of us that descend from James and Sarah Jackson > Rains. I do not have James' siblings otherthan Asahel nor their parents. I > have no proof that Levinia and Katy Duncan were sisters and daughters of Joe > and Nellie Duncan . Do any of you? I haven't worked on the Rains' lines in > quite a while and need to get my folder out and refresh my memory. > Liz > > > ==== RAINS Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB >

Virgil Thanks for the info on James born 1793 where can i find Roberts will and where did Robert Die? any help appreciated. this is the first clue i have ever recieved on who James;s father was Thanks Dolores ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

James Raines was born 1793 in South Carolina. was in Lawrence co Ala in 1818 and was in Walker co ala by 1830 and died there in 1871. he had at least 1 bro.Robert born 1786[never married] that came to ala with him. James 1st married Milla Barton,dau of Moses and FAnnie Barton. there children were[born bt 1819-1841]; William Bailey married Elizabeth Kennymore[kennamor] Hiram married 1st Phebe? 2nd Aseneth Abbott James married Sarah Best Allen married Lucinda Robbins[died in civil war] Francis married Byrd Cole Rebecca married Isiah Williams Massa married James Mullins Margaret Ann married Wm. washington Abbott Milla[nothing found after 1850] who did she marry? Milla[wife of James] died in 1843 and he married Susan??[what was her maiden name?] they had 4 children Lucinda married Wm. Best Sylvania married John Newton Pate Sinthia married Robert Williams John[nothing found on him after 1860] James died 1871 in Walker co . where was Susan in 1880? all the sons served in the civil war [found their records] all the children except William Bailey and Massa appear to have stayed in and around Walker co. any additional info appreciated Thanks Dolores ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Virgil, I got the will, all of it. Thanks a million. dee baxter60@aol.com wrote: > Now did you get all of the will . I try to type it as I have it . Let me know > Vergil Raines > > ==== RAINS Mailing List ==== > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com

Also would you know anything about R S Rains aka Reddin S Rains Bell Co. Ky. He and Ballinger disappears about 1870 and can't locate them anywhere. Appreciate any help. dee baxter60@aol.com wrote: > James ,b.1793, his father was Robert Rains who died in 1794. His son John was > the older of the two bros. This according to my records which is Robert's > will. Vergil Raines > > ==== RAINS Mailing List ==== > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog

Virgil, would you please send me a copy of Robert's will too. Do you have a scanner? If not, my snail mail is: D. Earnest 6495 Freemont St. North Port, FL 34287 email: deesnest@peganet.net Thanks dee baxter60@aol.com wrote: > James ,b.1793, his father was Robert Rains who died in 1794. His son John was > the older of the two bros. This according to my records which is Robert's > will. Vergil Raines > > ==== RAINS Mailing List ==== > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog

Now did you get all of the will . I try to type it as I have it . Let me know Vergil Raines

State of North Carolina Randolph County) Novenber Term 1794 The Execution of the above will ----was duly proved in Open Court by Henry GARNER and Jacob GREGG & ordered to be Recorded Teste J Harper

and Testament and Trustees for my wife and children. I(n) witness whereof I heretofore set my hand and seal this Sixteenth day of September in the year of Our Lord one thousand Seven hundred &Ninty four. his Bobert(X) Rains Seal Teste Henry Garner Jacob Gregg his Ambroes(X) Rains. A true Copy Teste J. Harper

Item I desire that my eldest son John have my black horse. Item I desire that my son James have my black colt. Item I desire that my daugther mary have five Shillings. as for the rest of my property I desire it be divided amongst the rest of my children and I constitute John Wilson and Isaac Arlidge to be my executyersof my last will

asmy worldly Estate, I will and possitively order, First that all my debts be paid then i leave all my land and moveables Estate to my Dearly beloved wife during her widowhood or natural life to raise my small children upon but if she re marrys again or should Decease I desire my lands Should be Equally divided among my sons.

Will of Robert Rains Randolph County Will Book 2 page 6 ---dated 16th September 1794; probated November Term, 1794 Copy of Robert Rains Last Will & Testament in the name of God amen. I Robert Rains of the County of Randolph beingthro the aboundant Marcey and goodness of God tho weak in body yet of asound and perfect understanding and memory do Constitute this my last will and Testament and desire it may be reserved by all as Such. first I most humbly bequeath my Soul to God my maker and Desire my burial may be decent without pomp or State.

Ok Dolores I am going to try to type it. I am a slow typist. It may take abt. three E-mails as aol tends to cut me off.