Thanks, Bob. I should have explained that this was not my line -- I just wanted to pass the info along to those who wanted it. Have scanned it and will send to those who are interested. It does tell about his Rev. War service, land grants, and pension application, etc. Peggy > Peggy, This John is the son of either Robert or Ishmael Rains, Can't > remember which but somewhere I have read about it and probably still have > that information some where. He was called Capt. John and came to Randolph > with his father. He served in the War from Randolph then returned to > Virginia where he married and then went to Tennessee. He never established > his own residence in Randolph so you will probably find no information from > there. Bob > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Wayne & Peggy Horton <wphor@ccape.net> > To: <RAINS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 9:10 PM > Subject: [RAINS] JOHN RAINS, b. August 2, 1759, VA., d. January 28, 1835, > Bledsoe Co., TN. > > > > > I have a copy of an article from TENNESSEE GENEALOGY AND HISTORY, Vol. > 2, No. 2, on John RAINS, b. August 2, 1759, near Fredericksburg, VA.,

Newman Rains, son of John R. and Kezia Rains, was born about 1754 in Cameron Parish, Fairfax Co., Va. He was mentioned in his father's will in 1754 in Fairfax Co. This will mentions Newman and Baley as sons by his wife, Kezia. Anthony and John Rains were mentioned, but their mother's name was not given. Kezia was expecting a child when this will was written. Newman and his mother, Kezia, were in Bedford Co., Va. as early as 1792, when Newman Reins' boundary line was mentioned in a will of Cornelius Dabney, dated May 23, 1792. One of the witnesses was Keziah Reins. I am trying to determine the maiden name of Keziah Reins/Rains. Some say she was a Dabney, and since she witnessed the will of Cornelius Dabney in Bedford Co., I am looking into this possibility. Do any of you out there have any information on this Reins/Rains/Dabney connection? Eva Alford

Peggy, This John is the son of either Robert or Ishmael Rains, Can't remember which but somewhere I have read about it and probably still have that information some where. He was called Capt. John and came to Randolph with his father. He served in the War from Randolph then returned to Virginia where he married and then went to Tennessee. He never established his own residence in Randolph so you will probably find no information from there. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: Wayne & Peggy Horton <wphor@ccape.net> To: <RAINS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 9:10 PM Subject: [RAINS] JOHN RAINS, b. August 2, 1759, VA., d. January 28, 1835, Bledsoe Co., TN. > Does this connect with anyone's RAINS family? > > I have a copy of an article from TENNESSEE GENEALOGY AND HISTORY, Vol. 2, No. > 2, on John RAINS, b. August 2, 1759, near Fredericksburg, VA., that states he > moved to Randolph County, NC, while still a boy, then returned to Virginia > married, moved to Sevier Coutny, TN, where he lived for 22 years, then moved to > Overton County, and then to Bledsoe County, TN; that his wife was Letitia RAINS, > and son Samuel S. RAINS. Also there is mention of a Dorothy Adaline BRITT, b. > February 6, 1824, who is not identified. > > If this is your line, let me know. > > Peggy > > > > > > ==== RAINS Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog >

Johanna when and where was your Bailey born? Dolores ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Now David Fanning, now just bare with me a minute, was an American Loyalist and Guerrilla fighter born in Beech Swamp, Amelia Co.,Virgina abt. 1755. After being robbed by some men calling Themselves Patriots (Whigs), Fanning joined the Loyalist side in the American Revolution in 1775 and gathered a small band of guerillas for "hit and run" expeditions against the Patriots of NC. He gained a reputation for extreme cruelty. In July 1781 he was made a colonel of milita by the British in NC. next p.4 . But now must go to bed as my wife has me redoing this house. Correction: Supervising redoing the house. Vergil Raines Baxter60@aol.com

John Rains,b.1759, lived in Randolph Co.,NC for a period of time. His kin to the rest of the Rains is not known by me. Yes, he returned to Virgina and married Letitia_____. Some say she was Indian. John and Letitia then proceeded to populate abt. 1/2 of Tenn. and then filled up Arkansas. This John was very prolific or at least by those who claim kin to him. I do not know , at hand, all the names of his children. I will not have to look it up because your E-mail is fixing to fill up. The Verg

The NC geographic, ethnic, economics, social, religious, and political difference produced an enduring east-west sectionalism. The government was dominated by the east, and the backcounty inhabitants suffered from excessive taxes, dishonest officials, and exorbitant fees. The " Regulators " was born in backcounty NC, yes Randolph Co., to regulate the evils of Gonernment. Now doesn't that set you up for the " Rest of the Story " page 3 next

You know we all like to find our ancesters, but have you every wondered just how or what our forefathers hadto face polictically. Nc came under the rule of a Royal Governor in 1729. Government improved and settlers started to pour into the colony. Between 1730 & 1775 the frontier was pushed westward to the Blue Ridge. The Rains we know,the 1750's,came to NC abt. 1763,according to my figures,Anthony at a later date, thus we lived in the true back country. End of p. 1 The Verg

Mary if I knew Williams father, Then I would know who my 5-ggf was. Boy when that day comes everbody on this computer will know abt. it. However, I am not sure William and Lawrence are bros. could be cousins, We know that William was a Lt. for his " Majesties" Loyal Militia & Co. in RW. Had I told you that? Can't find where Lawrence was. He ,I guess was a Quaker, but A lot of Quakers fought in the RW on both sides. Ever other Randolph Co.Rains was in the RW on one side or the other, But no, not Lawrence or Ishmael. The Verg

Is this the Bailey b 1786 SC moved to Tn died 1854 who married Sarah Mallard 19 Mar 1850 Lincoln TN? either way, I'd like to hear about any Baily Rains. Melva Joanann440@aol.com wrote: > Have quite a lot of information on Bailey Rains - Franklin & Lincoln County, > TN - he died in 1850's. Be glad to share if connection is right. Joan - Ohio > > ==== RAINS Mailing List ==== > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

Does this connect with anyone's RAINS family? I have a copy of an article from TENNESSEE GENEALOGY AND HISTORY, Vol. 2, No. 2, on John RAINS, b. August 2, 1759, near Fredericksburg, VA., that states he moved to Randolph County, NC, while still a boy, then returned to Virginia married, moved to Sevier Coutny, TN, where he lived for 22 years, then moved to Overton County, and then to Bledsoe County, TN; that his wife was Letitia RAINS, and son Samuel S. RAINS. Also there is mention of a Dorothy Adaline BRITT, b. February 6, 1824, who is not identified. If this is your line, let me know. Peggy

Looking at your notes on marriages, are there marriage records for Walker co? Dolores W RAINESSUTTON wrote: > Sinthia Raines was born ca 1854 in walker co ala > she was the dau of James Raines and his second wife Susan? > She Supposley married Robert Williams after 1870 in walker co > Does anyone know anymore about her? Thanks dolores > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > ==== RAINS Mailing List ==== > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query!

Dolores, one of your earlier notes said Aseneth married before 1860 so how did Phoebe get Newton in 1864? Dolores W RAINESSUTTON wrote: > James was born 1856 in walker co Ala > He was the son of Hiram Raines and his first wife Phebe A. > on the 1870 census of walker co he was newly married to Lottie? > where were they after 1870 > he had 2 brothers > George born 1858 and Newton born 1864 > also had 1 half bro and 1 half sister Hiram H. born 1872 and Mary J. > born 1875 > Thanks Dolores > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > ==== RAINS Mailing List ==== > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library

Are there any land records or death records for Walker AL that didn't get destroyed in the war? That would help. melva Dolores W RAINESSUTTON wrote: > on the 1840 census of Walker co ala it shows Robert Raines bt 50-60[he > was born 1786 in S.C.] as Head of Household-single -living in household > was male bt 70-80- female bt 60-70 . these were probably his parents > they died by 1850 what was their names? > His Brother James born1793] lived next door. > any clue Appreciated Dolores > > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > ==== RAINS Mailing List ==== > > ============================== > Add as many as 10 Good Years To Your Life > If you know how to reduce these risks. > http://www.thirdage.com/health/wecare/hearthealth/index.html

Well "The Verg", (G) How about their dad? Don't tell me you know who Williams dad was, and haven't told me yet!?!?!? Mary ************************************************************************ "The Verg" wrote................. >O-yes William 1790 and 1780 were Randolph Co. How abt. there Dad? The Verg > > > > >==== RAINS Mailing List ==== > > > >============================== >Add as many as 10 Good Years To Your Life >If you know how to reduce these risks. >http://www.thirdage.com/health/wecare/hearthealth/index.html > >

O-yes William 1790 and 1780 were Randolph Co. How abt. there Dad? The Verg

Mary, did not mean to stear you wrong. The Randolph Co. that most of the Rains were in was called other counties at one time. Example is that Orange Co. include Rand. at one time. Rains married into Chatham Co. & etc. When you are doing research what you are looking for may have actually been in Orange Co. I say the Raines were in or came to the area of Rand. in 1762/63. Others say 1772/73. All I meant was do not limit yourself checked Counties around Rand. Does this make any since. The Verg

Virgil, here is all I have on my Rains Here us Ballenger Rains death cert. Bell Co.KY Bal Raines(they called him Uncle Bal, he spoke with a accent, which was French.) He was born Oct. 15, 1865, he was 60 yrs. 10mos. and 3 ds. old. He died on Aug. 18, 1926. Parents: Joseph Raines and Elizabeth Raines(or Rains) Charles Rains was the informant. He is buried at Hensley Chapel. Gibson Bro's handled the Funeral. Ballenger Rains and Peggy Marsee: Children: Sarah Rains, b. 1829 Redin S. Rains, b. 1830 Josiah S. Rains, b.May 29, 1836; d. May 6, 1911 Green P. Rains, b. 1850, Ky. m. Nancy A. Smith Martha A. Rains, b. 1850, Ky; d. June 17, 1926 Bell Co. buried in Colson Cem. Middlesboro. Nancy L. Rains, b. 1852, Ky.; d. Nov. 9, 1853, Knox Co. Ky. Wilkerson Rains, b. Dec. 6, 1852, Know Co. Ky; d. Dec 16, 1854, Knox Co. Ky. William H. Rains, b. Dec. 6, 1852, Knox Co. Ky. Charles B. Rains, b. April 12, 1855, Knox Co. Ky. d. July 9, 1923, Bell Co. Ky/ buried Hensley cemetery. Redin S. Rains b. 1830. He married Elizabeth Jane Jones Oct. 11, 1864 in Knox Co. Ky. She was the daughter of Joel Wiley Jones and Sarah Turner. Children: Martha Emily Rains, b. 1864; m. Robert Mullins Sarah Rains, b. 1865; m. Henry Moore Joel Milton Rains, b. Nov. 1865, Bell Co., d. July 13 1936 in Bell Co. buried Hensley Chapel. m. 1st. Josephine Marsee m. 2nd. Malinda Owens (don't believe this to be accurate) William Rains, b. 1875 Cyntha Adaline Rains, b. Nov. 6, 1879, twin of Elizabeth; d. Oct. 10, 1936, Bell Co. Buried Hensley Cem. M. David H. Doyle on June 25, 1904, in Bell Co. Eliza Rains, b. 1879 m. David Brooks Thomas Franklin Rains(or Thomas Hiram Rains, b. Sept. 6, 1880, Bell Co. d. June 23, 1954 Bell Co. Margaret Rains. This is all I know hopes this helps. Let me know if anyone out there can add any information to the above list. Love to meet new cousins. dee

continue to send anything you think might be helpful! My Rains is Charlotte who married a George Washington Graves ca 1800. She was born ca 1785. Must not have belonged to the Quaker Rains as she supposedly received a slave from her father. Renea Burkholder grburk@usit.net TNGenWeb Decatur Co., TN http://www.netease.net/decatur/ TNGenWeb Perry Co., TN http://www.netease.net/perry/ ----- Original Message ----- From: <baxter60@aol.com> To: <RAINS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2001 8:30 PM Subject: [RAINS] Early Rain(e)s of Virgina > Does anyone need the material I'm sending? If not I will stop. Just thought > it might give someone a lead. After all abt. 80% of the Raines in US started > in Virgina. We were there before old George was even a thought in his Dad's > mine.( Washington that is ) Ha! > Vergil Raines Baxter60@aol.com > > > > ==== RAINS Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > >

Yes, I know it wasn't always Rand. Co. BUT, what do you mean "don't get hung up on Rand. Co.?" I don't understand how that would change my research between the William of 1790 and the William of 1800. Hit me over the head with it, OK Vergil? LOL!! Mary -----Original Message----- From: baxter60@aol.com <baxter60@aol.com> To: RAINS-L@rootsweb.com <RAINS-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, April 15, 2001 8:24 PM Subject: Re: [RAINS] >Mary do not get hung up in Randolph Co. Remember it went under other names >until 1779. I wish I could get with you and show you my 10 yrs. of notes. >Wrote it all down in a book one time, but never published, couldn't anyway as >I always needed to add more stuff. I do wish I could get all of it out. Just >so some people would have the info., O-well one of these days. > > > > >==== RAINS Mailing List ==== > > > >============================== >Add as many as 10 Good Years To Your Life >If you know how to reduce these risks. >http://www.thirdage.com/health/wecare/hearthealth/index.html > >