Jen, There were no children mentioned nor did I ever see any Raines or Raine connected to him. Vergil Raines Baxter60@aol.com

Is there any mention of Roland's children?

Vergil, You are right about Rootsweb not allowing attachments, but please, send it to my personal address masdal@graceba.net OK? I would love to have the will! Mary -----Original Message----- From: baxter60@aol.com <baxter60@aol.com> To: RAINS-L@rootsweb.com <RAINS-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, May 07, 2001 12:32 AM Subject: [RAINS] William Again >Mary, I can't remember if I told you this, but the Robert Rains who died in >1829( 0r thats when he wrote his will) had A William mentioned as a son in >his will. Now you want a copy. It is a copy of original and hard to read. I >will try to attached to an E-mail. Some onementioned that rootsweb would not >allow attachments--Is that right. Vergil > > > > >==== RAINS Mailing List ==== > > > >============================== >Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history >learning and how-to articles on the Internet. >http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library

Mary, I can't remember if I told you this, but the Robert Rains who died in 1829( 0r thats when he wrote his will) had A William mentioned as a son in his will. Now you want a copy. It is a copy of original and hard to read. I will try to attached to an E-mail. Some onementioned that rootsweb would not allow attachments--Is that right. Vergil

Mary, Here is another William Rains ,b.9/2/1793 d.1/24/1864. He was born in Randolph Co. These are the dates that I had been looking for, but is another William. There was another William on 1790 cenus. Don't know if this will help, but here 'tis. This came out of one of those thick Quaker Books discussing Quakers of NC.Vergil Raines Baxter60@aol.com

Someone was asking about Roland, I can't remember who, and this is what I found in notes. From " Seventeenth Century Colonial Ancesters" Roland Raines( c 1600-42) Va. m.--- also Raine Landowner. I do not know why but I have written " Accomack Co. " beside my notes. Vergil Raines Baxter60

Caroline, Liddy Rains , b.2/10/1815, the daugther of Lawrence Wesley Rains, b.1790, was discharged from Quakers in 1834. This is the only proof I could ever find that put us with the Quakers during this time period. Vergil Raines my GF added the (e). Baxter60@aol.com

So-o-o-o, Does anybody know who this William is?? I am very interested. Cleve, do you know when this Henry Jr. and this William was born? Thanks for any information. Mary masdal@graceba.net **************************************************************************** ************* Rains researcher, Gary Raines, made a statement several years ago that Henry Rains, Sr. of Caroline Co. had another son, William. However William was not mentioned in the will. The pension application of William Rains, R-8561, reportedly identifies William as a brother to Henry Rains, Jr. of Hardin Co., Kentucky, born in Caroline Co., Va. I have not seen this pension application myself.

Caroline, Lawrence , my 4g-gf , could have been A Quaker. I have looked at ever source that was available to me. He diffently had some Quaker qualities and seemed to follow Quakers to Ohio. At the time he left NC many Quakers were leaving; however, other people were leaving too. I searched ever Quaker information in NC and in Ohio but never found his name. I found where one of his decendants was removed from the Church for marrying out of the Church. I will have to look that up. He did not fight in the RW nor did he ever own any slaves. Have you ever read the book " And The Rain(e)s Came ", it is very good and also tends to think as I. What line are you from? I went to Lawrence Wesley, to Nathan, to Issac, to Warren, to Vergil Raines and me also Vergil Raines. Sorry I could not give a better answer. Vergil Raines Baxter@aol.com Let me heard from you cous.

I am a 3rd great granddaughter of Lawrence Rains of Randolph Nc, I have seen information that he was a quaker. Do you know if there is anyplace that I could find Quaker records in which he is mentioned? Caroline baxter60@aol.com wrote: > Cleve, you are right on all counts. The thing that I'm going to do in looking > for Lawrence,b.1751/52, and Ishmael,b.1749, father is look for a different > spelling for Rain(e)s. I've always disallowed Rainy,Rainey, and Raney. But > we now know that a John, Robert and William Rainey were in Orange Co. in the > 1700's. As I've given up finding there father in Caroline Co., I am going to > look in a different direction. Lawrence and Ishmael are not necessarily the > brothers to Anthony,b.1757 or John,b.1759. Eleven years is enough time > looking for my 5g-gf spelled Rains. I now believe that the Rains,Reines & > etc of Randolph Co. are all even related. O-well Vergil Raines > Baxter@aol.com > > ==== RAINS Mailing List ==== > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

Cleve, Katherine Buck's book totally does not include John Rains the Loyalist of Randolph Co. Vergil

Cleve, you are right on all counts. The thing that I'm going to do in looking for Lawrence,b.1751/52, and Ishmael,b.1749, father is look for a different spelling for Rain(e)s. I've always disallowed Rainy,Rainey, and Raney. But we now know that a John, Robert and William Rainey were in Orange Co. in the 1700's. As I've given up finding there father in Caroline Co., I am going to look in a different direction. Lawrence and Ishmael are not necessarily the brothers to Anthony,b.1757 or John,b.1759. Eleven years is enough time looking for my 5g-gf spelled Rains. I now believe that the Rains,Reines & etc of Randolph Co. are all even related. O-well Vergil Raines Baxter@aol.com

Please excuse my out of sequence responses. My comments are coming several days late because of a busy work week, and I am responding to several different posts to the list. << Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 15:51 EDT From: Duckobx159@aol.com To: RAINS-L@rootsweb.com Vergil, here is more: I quote [from Katherine Buck's book]: "There were 3 early John Rains in North Carolina. The John Rains who served in the Cont. Line during the Rev. War received Land Grant No. 5 in 1782, for 640 acres on Brown Creek on Cumberland River. By 1790, he was gone from North Carolina. It appears he later settled in West Virginia. . . " >> The above quote has only a little bit of truth in it and it is misleading. The Capt. John Rains who received a preemption grant No. 5 on Brown's Creek was in NC, but it was the part of NC that became Tennessee in 1796. His land was centered where the Tennessee State Fairgrounds are located in Nashville Tennessee. Capt. John Rains, the Longhunter, was not in the Continental Line and he never fought against the British. He was a legendary Indian fighter and fought against the Indians who were sometimes being paid and supplied arms by both the British and the Spanish. During the Rev. War era, the men who fought in battles such as these were not considered Rev. War veterans, but they are today considered Rev. War veterans by the DAR. This Capt. John Rains was the son of John Rains and Barbara Goulden, who in 1735 settled near Brookes Run in what later became southeastern Culpeper Co. I suspect came from Caroline Co. Capt. John Rains lived out his days in Nashville dying at the ripe old age of 91 years on March 26, 1834, probably at his home on top of the hill at Rains Avenue. There is a historical marker where his home once stood. Off the top of my head, there was a John Rains in West Virginia, and again, off the top of my head, he was probably descended from the Rainses who were early settlers in Rockingham Co., Virginia. Melva Wheelwright is the expert on these Rainses. Eva, you did not fail in attaching John R. Ranes' will. RootsWeb tries to not allow attachments and you are not supposed send or be able to send attachments to any RootsWeb list. If this could be done, the viruses could be sent through posts to the list. I am confused by someone's statement that the existence of Anthony and John Ranes in John R. Ranes' Fairfax Co., Va. will tends to suggest that the Anthony and John who arrived in Randolph Co., NC in 1772 may not have in fact been brothers. I may have missed a post. Is there any evidence that any of the four sons of John R. Ranes of Fairfax, Anthony, John, Newman and Baley migrated to North Carolina? I posted a copy of the will of Henry Rains, [Sr.], the large landholder of Caroline Co., to this list several months ago. It does clarify that the brothers who migrated from Caroline Co., Va. to Randolph Co., NC were not the children of Henry Rains. Henry's will was dated December 27, 1766 and was probated on February 12, 1767 in Caroline County. The key portion of the will is as follows: ". . . equally divided between all my children viz: my sons John Rains, Henry Rains, Ambros Rains, & Ignatious Rains & my daughters Oliviah Pearce, Mary Duval, & Cordeliah Perry & their heirs for ever. Rains researcher, Gary Raines, made a statement several years ago that Henry Rains, Sr. of Caroline Co. had another son, William. However William was not mentioned in the will. The pension application of William Rains, R-8561, reportedly identifies William as a brother to Henry Rains, Jr. of Hardin Co., Kentucky, born in Caroline Co., Va. I have not seen this pension application myself. The earliest Rains that I have been able to find in the area that later became Caroline Co. was a mysterious John Reins in 1707 who lived in the vicinity of Goldenvale Creek in northern Caroline County a few miles south of the Spotsylvania border. (Goldenvale Creek is the modern spelling, but it was "originally" written as Goulden Vale Creek in 1665.) Henry Rains, Sr.'s first land purchase was in what became Caroline Co. was in 1716. Henry Rains, Sr. also lived near Goulden Vale Creek. This John Reins would seem to have been old enough to have been either an older brother or the father of Henry Rains, Sr. The circumstantial evidence of proximity in a sparsely settled place is not clear proof of a kinship, but I think it is likely that they were related. Cleve Weathers Nashville

Since my husband's family was from Rains County, Texas, and he still has a farm there, we subscribe to the RAINS COUNTY LEADER, the local newspaper in Emory, Tx. In this week's issue, there is an article and a picture of EMORY RAINS, b. May 2, 1800, TN; d. March 3, 1878, TX., which his descendants may find interesting. The newspaper is on the Internet and you can reach the site by clicking on: http://www.rainscountyleader.com/leader/sections/lookback.html If that doesn't take you directly to the page, click on: http://www.rainscountyleader.com/ and then click on "Looking Back" on the upper left side. The picture in the newspaper is larger than the one on the newspaper site -- if anyone has a problem reaching the site and lets me know, I will see if the newspaper picture scans clear enough to send. "Copy and paste" may do better, though. Peggy Horton PS. Emory RAINS is not in my line.

<A HREF="http://www.sonic.net/~melvaw/RAINTREE.HTM">Rains Family Tree Synopsis</A> Has everybody seen this site. I see that Melva's Rains Research Group has contributed to it. Eva

Hi "The Verg"!! Hi, I am the one looking for the death date of William. I changed over fron ala.net to graceba.net last weekend and my message telling everyone that did not go through. Anyway, yes, I am awaiting and anxiously watching for someone to bring William up in the conversation. That is why I wanted all these wills, so I can go over them with a fine tooth comb and filter out all I can. Eva, thank you for the help! Dee, I recieved 5 emails from you. I don't know why (8?) didn't make it. Thanks to all of you for taking time to help me. I truly appreciate you all! Keep this going! Its g-r-r-e-a-t!!! Mary masdal@graceba.net (Where's William?) -----Original Message----- From: baxter60@aol.com <baxter60@aol.com> To: RAINS-L@rootsweb.com <RAINS-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, May 03, 2001 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [RAINS] Raines descendants >Eva, there is someone out there looking for William. I'm looking for his date >of death. Baxter60 > > > > >==== RAINS Mailing List ==== > > > >============================== >Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

There are too many William and John Raines/Ranes, etc., here in Va. where I live that they get very confusing. Right at the present, I don't have any answers for you, Vergil. Eva

If you can't click on the highlight, try this: http://members.aol.com/FloCox/Raines.html

Renea, Charlotte was 0ne of Nine. I do not know her date of birth. Aaron,her bro. b. 11/5/1797 , John,her bro. b. 4/18/1792. I do not have the date of the rest. Whatelse do you need? I'm awaiting an answer from Sue and then maybe I can answer both at sametime. Vergil Raines Baxter60@aol.com