Brenda, I have that a John Jr is the father of Jason, Owen & Jesse. And since he is a "Jr" his father was likely John Sr of Orange/Caswell NC. Howver, I dont believe they are the John & John Jr of Somerset MD as John Jr had a son Nathan b. 1749. Both John Sr & Jr died in MD, so they cannot be the Johns of NC. I believe there was another Nathaniel & faher John Jr, but not of Somerset MD. -----Original Message----- From: Brenda Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 7:10 PM To: ragan-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RAGAN-ROOTS] Fw: Re: Ragan, McIntosh I'm new at this and getting soooooooo confused. Just who is the father of Nathan, Owen and Jesse Ragan who moved to Dickson Co TN? Best, Brenda -----Original Message----- From: ragan-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ragan-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Maryellen Horrigan Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 7:03 PM To: ragan-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RAGAN-ROOTS] Fw: Re: Ragan, McIntosh Yup, we have that Joseph Jr had a John who, if he had an uncle John by grandfather Joseph Sr... he would be John Jr. to his uncle. This John, son of Joseph Jr had a son John, but he wasn't born until 1774, so he didn't sign. John Riggan /Ann Bell could have been the Sr John to any of the young pups. He did not have a son John. Francis and Jane of VA had a son John who died in 1767, so he didn't sign. But this John is supposed to be the father of a William who died in 1813. William is said to have married Sarah Ann Warren. They had a son John born in 1767. That would be too young to have signed. Jesse, brother to William is also credited with a John, but he was born too late. John and Ann Bell have a grandson John via son Jacob, but he was born the year of the petition. There are some very young Johns through the John of Francis and Jane, but too young for our purposes. If the combination of John Sr and Jr is not found in some combination of John/Bell or Joseph Jr's John and a younger man, then we should look to VA and or MD for another family. MCH -----Original Message----- From: ragan-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ragan-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of James Ragon Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 4:58 PM To: ragan-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RAGAN-ROOTS] Fw: Re: Ragan, McIntosh The Caswell Co., NC, website under the "History" states that in 1771, 300 men signed a petition to setoff Caswell Co. from Orange Co., NC. Among those 300 men are the names of John Ragon Sen' and John Ragon Jur'. The copy of the transcription I have the names are not alphabetized but, ,the surnames of family members are listed as a group. The two Ragons are listed together. These may not father and son as I understand that it was common practice if two men were of the same name the older would also be listed as "Senior, and the younger as "Junior. James H. Ragon Maryellen Horrigan wrote: > > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to RAGAN-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to RAGAN-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to RAGAN-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message