In a message dated 5/10/99 3:55:54 AM, [email protected] writes: >I was reading through some old e-mail messages and ran across this one >from you. I too have some ancedotal "two-brothers" stories floating around >in my > >family. > > > >As I have heard the story passed down, two brothers came over from Ireland > >and got into a squabble. In fact, they got so mad at each other that one > >changed his name by either dropping or adding an "e" to his name just to > >spite the other one. Further, the story goes, one of the brothers went >west > >and other one went south. > > > >FYI - My branch of Ragans intermarried with the Carters in Virginia. Anna > >Carter Ragan (Kansas City, MO) is my GGGGdmthr. I am told these Carters > >were related to Robert E. Lee and also former President Jimmy Carter. > > > >If anyone has any good info on this Virginia relationship, give me a shout. > > > >Ron Ragan > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 8:54 PM > >Subject: Two RAGAN brothers and RAGAN-ROOTS Archives > > > > > >> Hello RAGAN Rooters! > >> > >> I've had quite a bit of *very* positive responses to the several emails >I > >sent > >> last evening. So I though I'd share some more tonight. One thing I'd > >like to > >> share with you are some RAGAN/RAGON/REAGAN (...etc.) Web Pages. I'll >send > >a > >> complete list in my next email. If you have a RAGAN Web Page you'd like > >to > >> have included in our records let me know. > >> > >> The first one is the location of our RAGAN-ROOTS archives. You'll find >a > >> *bunch* of information here. It can be found at: > >> > >> http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >> > >> Once you arrive there you'll need to type in "ragan-roots" and hit the > >search > >> button. That will take you to a place where you can search all our > >messages > >> for the past two years. Try typing in Reason or Suzy or Susan or John >or > >> Weldon or Philip or Pennsylvania or .... whatever it is you're looking > >for. > >> > >> Also no one has responded yet to my comment on the 'Two RAGAN Brothers'. > >Well > >> I was looking through our archives tonight and found a msg I sent back >in > >> March of '97. (That was before we moved the list to RootsWeb.) I copied > >the > >> msg and you'll find it reprinted below. It has quite a bit more than >what > >I > >> sent last night. So how about it --- has anyone heard on these two > >brothers > >> from their parents or grandparents or ... ?? > >> > >> > >> From: <[email protected]> > >> To: "Ragan/Reagan/Regan Genealogy discussion list" > >> <[email protected]> > >> Subject: The 2 RAGAN Brothers > >> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 22:49:13 -0500 (EST) > >> Errors-to: <[email protected]> > >> Reply-to: [email protected] > >> Sender: [email protected] > >> X-listname: <[email protected]> > >> X-Mailer: Mercury MTS (Bindery) v1.31 > >> > >> Hello Everyone, > >> > >> I'd like to know if anyone else has heard this story. It's about how >the > >> RAGAN/REAGANs came over here from Ireland. When I was a kid my father > >told > >> me a story that had been passed down to him (from his father I suppose). > >It > >> goes like this: There were two RAGAN brothers that came here from > >Ireland. > >> Before coming over their name was "O'RAGAN". After arriving they dropped > >> the "O" from the name so it became "RAGAN". After arriving one of the > >> brothers went south and the other went west. Now has anybody else heard > >that > >> or any similar story? In my research I've come across the story in > >several > >> different places. > >> > >> Now here's an exerpt from a book titled "A Quaker Headmaster, The Life >and > >> Times of Chester L. Reagan" by John H. Hobart. I recently found this >book > >> advertised on the Internet and bought it. On page 12 I found this > >paragraph: > >> > >> We do know that two REAGAN brothers sailed from Northern Ireland with >a > >> group of Quakers, and their destination was North Carolina. Jehu REAGAN, > >> Chester REAGAN's father, claimed that he was a fifth-generation Friend > >> (NOTE-the word Friend, capitalized, is interchangable with Quaker); this > >> certainly does suggest that the family had embraced the faith in Northern > >> Ireland before they left that land. The date of this sailing was probably > >> around 1750, or even a few years earlier. > >> > >> Then on page 13 I found this paragraph: > >> > >> One of the two original REAGAN brothers who immigrated from Northern > >Ireland > >> was named Thomas, and we know that he, with his wife Rachel, was among >the > >> Southern Quakers who emigrated to Ohio well before the close of the > >> eighteenth century. We know also that they had a son named Reason and > >that > >> Reason married a young Quakeress named Mary SPRAY. Reason and Mary had > >> several children, one of whom, born in 1818, was named John. He also > >married > >> a young Quakeress, Charity HAWKINS. John and Charity had seven children, > >the > >> fifth one, Jehu, born near Wilmington, Ohio, in 1853, was Chester REAGAN's > >> father. > >> > >> The story goes on to tell that John & Charity moved to Marion County, >IN > >in > >> 1855. I've been looking closely at a couple Reason/Rezin RAGAN/REAGAN > >men. > >> One was born in Anne Arundel, MD in 1720 and died in Federick Co., VA >in > >> 1777. One of his sons named Rezin was born in Federick Co., VA in 1750 > >and > >> died in 1800. I don't yet know where he died, but I suspect it may have > >been > >> Fayette Co., PA. I can find a Rezin RAGAN in that county in the 1790 > >census, > >> but he isn't there in 1800. I suspect this may be the same person. >I > >also > >> suspect that his youngest son may be William RAGAN, my 3g-grandfather. > If > >> anyone on this list could help me confirm this I would *really* appreciate > >> it. > >> > >> Another researcher, Donald REAGAN has the following paragraph in the > >opening > >> pages of his book "The Book of RAGAN/REAGAN": > >> > >> So, it seems our family, O'Raigan, came to America for political >and > >> religious freedom. Family traditions state that there were five brothers > >of > >> one O'Raigan family in Ireland who planned to migrate to America after >the > >> defeat to Cromwell's army. But only two managed to reach to America. > One > >> settled in Maryland/Pennsylvania area and the other settled in > >Virginia/North > >> Carolina area. It is also stated that both families in > >Maryland/Pennsylvania > >> and Virginia/North Carolina dropped the "O" after its arrival here. > >> > >> So there you have the story of the two RAGAN/REAGAN brothers. I also > >spoke > >> with a lady named Linda GREENE. She wrote a book called "Town Crier: >The > >> Descendants of Timothy & Elizabeth RAGAN/REAGAN". And Linda told me >the > >same > >> story ... hmmm. I figure there must be something to it since I keep > >hearing > >> it from so many different sources. Has anyone else heard a similar story? > >> If so please post it to this list. We'd all like to hear it. > >> > >> While I'm rambling on I'd like to mention a web page that Donald REAGAN > >has > >> set up. It covers his oldest known ancestor, Timothy RAGAN/REAGAN. >The > >URL > >> is: > >> > >> http://members.aol.com/ReaganBear/index3.html > >> or: > >> ReaganBear's Home > >> Page 2 > >> > >> One more thing ... last year I purchased a "Census Index" on the > >> RAGAN/REAGAN/REGAN surname. It's a computerized index so I can do a > >search > >> with my word processor. I runs from the 1790's (and before) up through > >the > >> 1870's. If you have an ancestor's name (head of household) you'd like >me > >to > >> look for just ask. Just provide the name, census year, and State. I > >should > >> be able to give you the census page number where you can find them. >That > >> should make your search easier. I also have a marriage index for our > >> surname. Let me give you an example of what you can get from this index. > >As > >> I mentioned I've been looking at the the name Reason/Rezin RAGAN/REAGAN. > >> Saearching through the index I found the following: > >> > >> ------------------------- Marriage Extract --------------------------- > >> Warren OH REAGAN Reason SPRAY Mary 19 Apr 1818 > >> > >> Union SC REAGEN Reason SPRAY Mary 9 Apr 1818 > >> > >> (I have no idea why this couple show up in 2 different places on 2 > >different > >> dates, but they do.) > >> > >> ------------------------- Census Extract ------------------------------ > >> Clinton Co. IN 1830 REAGAN Reason 058 > >> Clinton Co. IN 1860 REAGAN Reason Jackson Twp. 020 > >> Marion Co. IN 1860 REAGAN Reason Decatur Twp 724 > >> Marion Co. IN 1860 REAGAN Reson Wayne Twp. 693 > >> Morgan Co. IN 1840 RAGEN Reason 122 > >> Hamilton Co. OH 1810 RAGAN Reason Cincinnati > >> Hamilton Co. OH 1817 RAGAN Reason Cincinnati > >> Hamilton Co. OH 1820 REGIN Reason Cincinnati 1 116 > >> Hamilton Co. OH 1840 REAGIN Reason** Cincinnati 5th Wa 177 > >> Hamilton Co. OH 1850 REAGAN Reason Cincinnatti 8th W 762 > >> Hamilton Co. OH 1850 REGEN Reason Cincinnati 8th Wa 655 > >> Hamilton Co. OH 1880 REGAN Reason Cincinnati Ward 1 382A > >> Warren Co. OH 1809 RAGAN Reason Wayne Twp 025 TX > >> Warren Co. OH 1830 RAGEN Reason Wayne Twp 267 > >> Fayette Co. PA 1790 REAGAN Reason Bullskin Twp 104 > >> Edgefield Co. SC 1800 RAGAN Reason 91 21102-02101-00 > >> Newberry Dist. Co. SC 1810 RAGAN Reason 122 > >> Giles Co. TN 1850 REAGIN Reason 3rd District 324 > >> ----------------------------------------------------- > >> (The number on the right is the Census page number.) > >> > >> I'm really curious about the name "Reason/Rezin". I wonder where it >comes > >> from. I wonder if it might be a maiden name from Ireland. Perhaps there > >was > >> an "O'Rezin" somewhere back there. > >> > >> That's all I have for now RAGAN/REAGAN fans. Everyone keep in touch, >and > >> thanks again for joining the group. > >> > >> Michael W. RAGAN > >> 118 Main Street <-Work > >> 103 Spring Street <-Home > >> Stevenson, AL 35772 > >> 205-437-8282 <-Work > >> 205-437-8651 <-Home > >> ([email protected]) > >> ==== RAGAN-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > >> You can search the RAGAN-ROOTS archives: > >> http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >> then type in: ragan-roots