Greg, As you mentioned, what we read in books or find on the Web should only be used as clues (taken with a grain of salt). The same goes with the IGI (International Genealogical Index) and our RAGAN-ROOTS database. All of this data comes as the result of research done by others, some of which may be *very* questionable. This is what we have in our database on the lineage you mentioned (As always I'm open to any additions, deletions corrections): ========= 1 Johan Philip EMERT Birth: 1716, Leipzig, Germany Death: 28 May 1762, Berks, Pennsylvania Spouse: Maria Catharina KAMM Birth: ca 23 Dec 1713 Father: Caspar KAMM Mother: Anna Catherina FRANCK Children: Leonard Frederick (1754-1829) Daniel George W. Jacob Elizabeth 1.1 Leonard EMERT 1.2 Frederick EMERT Birth: 11 Oct 1754, Berks, Pennsylvania Death: 7 Jan 1829, Emerts Cove, Sevier, Tennessee Pennsylvania private Continental Line; Revolutionary War. Buried in Emert's Cove Cemetery. Spouse: Barbara Ann NEIDIG Birth: 6 May 1755 Death: 7 Jul 1842 Father: Daniel NEIDIG Mother: Margaretha _?_ Marr: 1772 Children: Barbara Ann Mary "Polly" Catherine Mary Elizabeth Phillip (1782-1821) Margaret Louisa Frederick E. (1790-1871) Daniel 1.2.1 Barbara Ann EMERT 1.2.2 Mary "Polly" EMERT 1.2.3 Catherine EMERT 1.2.4 Mary EMERT 1.2.5 Elizabeth EMERT 1.2.6 Phillip EMMERT Birth: 17 Oct 1782, Virginia Death: 23 Jul 1821, Copeland Creek, Sevier Co., TN Burial: Emert Cove Cem., Pittman Center, TN. Spouse: Elizabeth REAGAN Birth: 4 Nov 1785, Caswell Co., NC Death: ca 1838, Middle Creek Community, Sevier Co., TN Father: Timothy RAGAN (ca1750-~1825) Mother: Elizabeth TRIGG (1760-ca1825) Marr: 1808, Sevier Co., TN. Children: Barbara (1809->1870) Frederick Sanders Catherine Ragan Daniel W. Rhoda Nancy Sarah Trigg (1819-1896) 1.2.6.1 Barbara EMMERT Birth: 6 Jun 1809, Sevier Co., TN Death: aft 1870 Spouse: John Nelson RAINWATER Birth: 1798, North Carolina Death: 20 Oct 1867, Ray Co., MO. Children: Enoch Fowler (1828-1861) Alexander Martin (1829-1890) 1.2.6.1.1 Enoch Fowler RAINWATER Birth: 17 Jun 1828, Sevier Co., TN Death: 6 Oct 1861, Ray Co., MO. Spouse: Catherine REMLEY Birth: 1837 Death: 1915 Children: Mary Jane (1854-1910) 1.2.6.1.1.1a Mary Jane RAINWATER* Birth: 1854 Death: 1910 Spouse: Jeremiah CLARK Birth: 1850 Death: 1893 Children: Edward Freeman (1870-) Barbara Ann (1872-) Elizabeth Catherine (1874-) Mary Jane Other spouses William H. RUPE 1.2.6.1.1.1a.1 Edward Freeman CLARK Birth: 1870 1.2.6.1.1.1a.2 Barbara Ann CLARK Birth: 1872 1.2.6.1.1.1a.3 Elizabeth Catherine CLARK Birth: 1874 1.2.6.1.1.1a.4 Mary Jane CLARK 1.2.6.1.1.1b Mary Jane RAINWATER* (See above) Spouse: William H. RUPE Birth: 1851 Death: 1938 Children: Elzie Antonio (1896-1959) Other spouses Jeremiah CLARK 1.2.6.1.1.1b.1 Elzie Antonio RUPE Birth: 1896 Death: 1959 Spouse: Naomi Juanita KEIRNS Birth: 1914 Death: 1975 Children: Richard Dean Imogene Bernice (1937-) Mary Elizabeth (1938-) Bud (1949-) 1.2.6.1.1.1b.1.1 Richard Dean RUPE 1.2.6.1.1.1b.1.2 Imogene Bernice RUPE Birth: 1937 1.2.6.1.1.1b.1.3 Mary Elizabeth RUPE Birth: 1938 1.2.6.1.1.1b.1.4 Bud RUPE Birth: 1949 1.2.6.1.2 Alexander Martin RAINWATER Birth: 1829 Death: 6 Aug 1890, Albany, Oregon Spouse: Sarah Elizabeth EMMETT Birth: Dec 1833, Sevier Co., TN Death: 27 Jul 1905, Albany, Oregon Children: John Reddin (1853-1926) 1.2.6.1.2.1 John Reddin RAINWATER Birth: 1853, Albany, Oregon Death: 1926, Albany, Benton Co., OR Spouse: Lucy Mae SNELL Birth: 1863 Death: 1921, Albany, Benton Co., OR Children: Andrew Alice Mae Myren Russell (1910-1991) Raymond Reddin (1917-) Fred 1.2.6.1.2.1.1 Andrew RAINWATER Spouse: Nellie HALL 1.2.6.1.2.1.2 Alice Mae RAINWATER 1.2.6.1.2.1.3 Myren Russell RAINWATER Birth: 1910 Death: 1991 Spouse: Cecelia Madonna ROBINSON Children: Jackie LeRoy (1936-) Danny Douglas (1945-) 1.2.6.1.2.1.3.1 Jackie LeRoy RAINWATER Birth: 1936 1.2.6.1.2.1.3.2 Danny Douglas RAINWATER Birth: Nov 1945 Spouse: Star Eugenia PETERSON Children: Diana Jeantte (1967-) Russel Linn (1971-) Jordan Michael (1982-) Wendell Ryan (1984-) 1.2.6.1.2.1.3.2.1 Diana Jeantte RAINWATER Birth: 1967 1.2.6.1.2.1.3.2.2 Russel Linn RAINWATER Birth: 1971 1.2.6.1.2.1.3.2.3 Jordan Michael RAINWATER Birth: 1982 1.2.6.1.2.1.3.2.4 Wendell Ryan RAINWATER Birth: 1984 1.2.6.1.2.1.4 Raymond Reddin RAINWATER Birth: 25 Mar 1917, Albany, OR Spouse: Pauline Grace HOLDSCLAW Birth: 22 Feb 1922 Death: 1989, Newport, OR Children: Raymond Elmer (1956-) Niesa Nell (1960-) 1.2.6.1.2.1.4.1 Raymond Elmer RAINWATER Birth: 19 Oct 1956 Children: Joan (1982-) Pauline (1984-) 1.2.6.1.2.1.4.1.1 Joan RAINWATER Birth: 28 Feb 1982 1.2.6.1.2.1.4.1.2 Pauline RAINWATER Birth: 19 Mar 1984 1.2.6.1.2.1.4.2 Niesa Nell RAINWATER Birth: 29 Feb 1960, Newport, OR Spouse: Rodney Gustive SCHIEWE Birth: 11 Jul 1959 Children: Allen Wayne (1980-) Robert Gustave (1988-) 1.2.6.1.2.1.4.2.1 Allen Wayne STEVENSON Birth: 9 Dec 1980 1.2.6.1.2.1.4.2.2 Robert Gustave SCHIEWE Birth: 15 Mar 1988 1.2.6.1.2.1.5 Fred RAINWATER Spouse: Virtue _?_ 1.2.6.2 Frederick Sanders EMMERT 1.2.6.3 Catherine Ragan EMMERT 1.2.6.4 Daniel W. EMMERT 1.2.6.5 Rhoda EMMERT 1.2.6.6 Nancy EMMERT 1.2.6.7 Sarah Trigg EMMERT Birth: 17 Apr 1819, Sevier Co., TN. Death: 8 Dec 1896, Sevier Co., TN Spouse: William H. Billy TROTTER Dr. Birth: 26 Jul 1814, Sevier Co., TN. Death: 14 Sep 1887, Sevier Co., TN. Father: William TROTTER (1747-) Mother: Asa WHITE (1782-1852) Marr: 23 Nov 1837, Sevier Co., TN. Children: John Andrew Elizabeth Emmett Isaac Alexander Maria Caroline Mitchell McCown Ashley Wynn Melinda Caldona Newton Edmondson Lewis Stevens Adeline Minerva Mary Angeline Stewart Erastus 1.2.6.7.1 John Andrew TROTTER 1.2.6.7.2 Elizabeth Emmett TROTTER 1.2.6.7.3 Isaac Alexander TROTTER 1.2.6.7.4 Maria Caroline TROTTER 1.2.6.7.5 Mitchell McCown TROTTER 1.2.6.7.6 Ashley Wynn TROTTER 1.2.6.7.7 Melinda Caldona TROTTER 1.2.6.7.8 Newton Edmondson TROTTER 1.2.6.7.9 Lewis Stevens TROTTER 1.2.6.7.10 Adeline Minerva TROTTER 1.2.6.7.11 Mary Angeline TROTTER 1.2.6.7.12 Stewart Erastus TROTTER 1.2.7 Margaret EMERT 1.2.8 Louisa EMERT 1.2.9 Frederick E. EMMERT Jr. Birth: 12 Jan 1790, Greene Co., NC. Death: 10 Apr 1871, Townsend, Blount, TN. Burial: Townsend, Blount, TN. Spouse: Celia Drusilla RAGAN Birth: 15 Feb 1792, Caswell Co., NC Death: 29 Aug 1869, Tuckaleeche, Blount Co., TN Father: Timothy RAGAN (ca1750-~1825) Mother: Elizabeth TRIGG (1760-ca1825) Marr: 5 Nov 1812, Sevier Co., TN. Children: Daniel H. Philip R. Abijah W. Barbara John N. Elizabeth Trigg Mary C. Caleb S. Rhoda A. Frederick Styres Catherine (1827-1827) 1.2.9.1 Daniel H. EMMERT 1.2.9.2 Philip R. EMMERT 1.2.9.3 Abijah W. EMMERT 1.2.9.4 Barbara EMMERT 1.2.9.5 John N. EMMERT 1.2.9.6 Elizabeth Trigg EMMERT 1.2.9.7 Mary C. EMMERT 1.2.9.8 Caleb S. EMMERT 1.2.9.9 Rhoda A. EMMERT 1.2.9.10 Frederick Styres EMMERT 1.2.9.11 Catherine EMMERT Birth: 17 Dec 1827, Blount Co., TN. Death: 17 Dec 1827, Blount Co., TN. 1.2.10 Daniel EMERT 1.3 Daniel EMERT 1.4 George W. EMERT 1.5 Jacob EMERT 1.6 Elizabeth EMERT Michael W. RAGAN (Perplexed as usual) 118 Main St Stevenson, AL 35772 (256) 437-8651/8282 [email protected] ================ Three Types of People -------------------- This world is divided into 3 types of people. The people who can count and the people who can't. ================ ================ In a message dated 10/5/99 05:20:13 PM, [email protected] writes: >Dear Cousins, > >Can anyone explain the following Reagan problem? > >According to Donald B. Reagan, THE BOOK OF REGAN/REAGAN, the maternal >grandmother of Daniel Emmett Reagan is Barbara Ann Emmert (Emert). She >was >the dau. of Johan Friedrich (Frederick) Emmert and Anne Barbara (Barbara > >Ann) Neidig. John Friedrich Emmert is the son of Johan Philip Emmert and > >Maria Catharina Kamm. Maria Catharina Kamm is the dau. of Caspar Kamm >and >Anna Catharina Franck. Barbara Ann Neidig is the dau. of Daniel Neidig >and >Anna Margaretha ___. > >However, according to the International Genealogical Index at >http://www.familysearch.org >Barbara Ann Emert is the dau. of Frederick Emert and Barbara Nigtish >(Knight). Frederick Emert is the son of John George Emert and Eva Maria > >Graff. Barbara Nigtish is the dau. of Nicholas Knight and Mary Rosena. > >Maybe Neidig and Nigtish are the same name (maybe not). But Daniel and >Anna >Margaretha Neidig does not seem to be the same married couple as Nicholas > >Knight (Nigtish) and Mary Rosena. And was the mother of Johan Frederick > >Emert named Maria Catherina Kamm or Eva Maria Graff? > >We all, of course, realize that what we read in books or on the web are > >really only clues to follow until we have copies of the actual historical > >documentation, and this case again proves the need to use primary sources. > >But can someone throw some light upon this apparent discrepancy? And not > >guesses, but facts. > >Perplexed (again), > >Greg McIntosh >[email protected] >Only the Husband of a Reagan