yeah...I got that...now the question is...why did I think he did...??? Knowing me, I felt he died before will time...hmmm... this file is OOOld. -----Original Message----- From: ragan-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ragan-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of james garrett Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 8:43 AM To: ragan-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RAGAN-ROOTS] Maryellen M'ellen Joseph Rgn-3 (Francis-2) only had the son Joseph Jr-4 according to his will. He did not have a son John as you implied. JW Garrett --------------------------------------------------- > From: mellenpatch5@cinci.rr.com > To: ragan-roots@rootsweb.com > Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 14:56:08 -0500 > Subject: Re: [RAGAN-ROOTS] Maryellen > > I don't believe John/Eliz. of JAmes/Joan ever left Charles Co MD, or any of > his left either. I think the Chapman chick married a Mathew, son of > John/Eliz2, James/Joan1 and the Mathew dead 1716 Stafford is Mathew2, > James/Joan1. I believe the Margaret, Jane, ( ?) I'm missing one...) in > Stafford belong either to this Mathew, or to Charles, of James,/Joan. I > think the Charles having kids in Stafford after 1731 is third generation. he > is a grandson of JAmes/Joan via Charles Sr. there are no St Paul's records > before 1716. Unless you can find me a Charles in MD or VA before 1716...he's > dead. There is none in MD. John has MAthew pop up in all the Chapman > stuff... then we have a later Wm and a John in nearby CAroline...I think > these are sons of MAthew, ...James1, John2, Mathew3 Mathew4 ( and John 4). > In fact, I think the 1752 sale is a grandson selling back to an uncle before > going.... where???? Do we have any loose MAthew's popping up after 1752? > > When John Wood III dies, we see 4 half sibs around the deathbed...two of > them male. This was in 1740.There is no guarantee that 4 half sibs was the > total # of kids John Regan had. There just happened to be 4 of them hanging > around the Wood death bed. The youngest of them could be absolutely no > younger than 13. The oldest could be no older than 25. Old enough to be off > on his own. So there may be a John here. However, this mythical 25 year old > would be 33 in 1748 when we need a John Sr and John Jr to witness the > Thompson deed in Surry. If we assume the John Jr and the John Sr are father > and son...which is not always true, then they cannot be the son and grandson > of John/Eliz2, James/Joan1... there isn't time for the younger to be older > than 13 and he could not have witnessed anything. Sigh. I don't like any of > the known men. What do we know of John the son of Joseph Sr??? Bro of Joseph > Jr...uncle to John, Ralph, Richard....How old would he be? Old enough to > have a son of age? > > Then there's Dan'l1, Francis2, Francis3, Joseph...do we have any kidlets for > him? He's about 15 estimated years older than John/Bell. What do we know of > his father ( Francis3, Francis2, Dan'l1)? Why do I have this Joseph's mother > and grandmother both listed as Jane????? Yeesh! If this Joseph had a brother > John we'd be rolling! > > John b. 1705 son of Francis2, Dan'l1 is my favorite candidate for > everything. I just like the cut of his jib. I hate to give him a son out of > whole cloth, but it's doable. I'd like to know mare about the sons we do > have... > > Just a thought I have been meaning to put out there.... Don't get carried > away by the Dan'ls in the line of Francis of Bute/Warren NC. Daniel was the > signature name for the Pegrams...and the Rgns married Pegrams like Cracker > Jack prizes.... Dan'l Pegram held the purse strings...so everybody had a > Dan'l. > > I do realize that in all logical likelihood, we are going to have to accept > the Dan'l of Surry VA and the James/Joan of Charles MD as one related > entity....but then the Daniel's of Isle of Wight have to come into the fold > also...they aren't going away. And Yeah...maybe, if we can drop the mythic > trash about Teigh Reigh and his kingship of Ireland...we may find connection > here also. Ya ever notice how every family Indian was a chief, and every > shamrock hugger was a king....LOL, M'ellen Horrigan > > -----Original Message----- > From: ragan-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:ragan-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of james garrett > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 1:41 PM > To: ragan-roots@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [RAGAN-ROOTS] Maryellen > > > Is it possible that John-3 (Francis-2) b. by 1705 of Surry VA who had sons > Wm-4, Benj-4, and Jesse-4 could have also had a son John b. by 1727 who md > Ann Bell? Is all of Johns-3 sons accounted for...only Wm, Benj, Jesse or > could there be others? > > I still think Joseph/Mary Rgn of Bute NC could be the Joseph-4 s/o > Francis-3. > Could have Francis-3 have had other sons other than Joseph-4... perhaps John > Sr b. by 1706? > > John-2 (James/Joan) /Elizabeth X Wood would have had children b. 1714-1729. > It's unlikely John b. by 1706 could be a son. > > JW Garrett > > > > for Ragan-Roots archives go to > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=ragan-roots > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > RAGAN-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > for Ragan-Roots archives go to > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=ragan-roots > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to RAGAN-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message for Ragan-Roots archives go to http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=ragan-roots ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to RAGAN-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message