Hi does any one know any thing about a Richard Queen that had a Daughter that married a Thomas Atha/athy/athey/athee, her name was Elinor and was born about 1732 in Prince George Co., Va.. If you do will you share some information with me she is one of my husbands gggggrandmother. Thank you Patty Greer. ----- Original Message ----- From: Carol Queen <postalq@grnco.net> To: <QUEEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2000 12:58 PM Subject: [QUEEN] Possible migration explanation > Hi all, > I read the following on a GenConnect board. Thought it might be > interesting. It's a little long, but has some insights into possible > migrations from and to NC. It's on the Kent Co., DEL. GenConnect board. > carol > REV. JOHN NEWTON b 1732 BAPTIST MISSIONARY TO THE CAROLINAS > > > > In preparation for writing SC BAPTISTS and MATERIALS TOWARD A HISTORY OF THE > BAPTISTS "of the several Provinces," Morgan Edwards took a tour in 1772 and > wrote in notebooks on the spot in his travels. He penned: Rev. John Newton > was born August 7, 1732 in Kent County, Pennsylvania and was baptized in > 1752 by Rev. Isaac Potts in Southampton County, Virginia. In preparing this > bio, Submitter went to the list of PA counties ready to click on > "Kent"...but there was no present-day Kent Co., PA. As do all good > researchers in the twenty-first century, Submitter then posted a query to > the "I don't know what county to look in" PA post. Joan (joan@rootsweb.com) > promptly responded: "I am willing to bet that the reference is to the > present Kent County, Delaware! Kent County is the middle county of Delaware. > Delaware's three counties were referred to as the 'three lower counties' of > PA until the Revolution." So that is why you readers interested in Kent > County, Delaware are reading about Rev. John Newton. [The Rev. John Newton > who wrote the hymn "Amazing Grace" was a contemporary of this Rev. John > Newton, but not the same person. The hymnwriter lived in England 1725-1807.] > > Morgan Edwards sometimes wrote two different entries at two different times. > As stated above, he indicated that Rev. John Newton was baptized by Rev. > Isaac Potts in Southampton County, Virginia in 1752. In another place he > wrote: "Baptized by Rev. Joshua Potts about the year 1752." Submitter does > not know if Rev. Potts' given name was Isaac or Joshua, or if Isaac and > Joshua were the same person. Edwards seems to give parenting credit to > Newton's parents in saying that he was "bred a churchman" (George W. > Paschal, HISTORY OF NC BAPTISTS Vol.I 1663-1805, published 1930 by NC > Baptist State Convention, p. 390). > > The Sandy Creek Baptist Association [a group of Baptist churches, of like > faith and order, voluntarily affiliating for fellowship] was organized in > 1758. According to Semple (HISTORY OF VA BAPTISTS), Black River Baptist > Church sent delegates [Baptists call them messengers]. This church, > according to Paschal, "seems to have been situated somewhere on Black River > in the present county of Duplin [NC] and was probably in some way connected > with the [Baptist] church on Bull Tail, which is a creek emptying into Black > River" (p. 322). The Bull Tail (Wells' Chapel) Baptist Church was pastored > by Rev. Samuel Newton [not the same Rev. Samuel Newton of SC who pastored > the Bush River Baptist Church and died in 1771] who died during the > Revolutionary war. [Submitter does not know if Rev. Samuel Newton and Rev. > John Newton, both Baptist pastors in present-day Duplin County, NC, were > related.] On March 7, 1757, Rev. John Newton was ordained as pastor of Black > River Baptist Church "and probably served it in that capacity until his > departure for South Carolina in 1765" (Paschal, p. 322). > > Before he was ordained, but perhaps after he was licensed to preach [a > licentiate], John Newton stopped one day at the home of Philip Mulky (who > lived with his wife near Roanoke in Halifax County, NC) and read to him from > the fifty-third chapter of Isaiah in the Bible. The year was 1756. Now for > the rest of the story, an account based upon Morgan Edwards' manuscript > history of the SC Baptists, who (when writing about Fairforest Baptist > Church) wrote a biographical sketch of Rev. Philip Mulky with the following > account of his conversion: One night as he went out of a house where he had > been playing the fiddle at a dancing frolic he saw (as he thought) the Devil > grinning at him with fiery eyes; upon which he swooned away. [Edwards did > not say if it were the Devil or Mulky who swooned away.] When he came to > himself, he was in the greatest terror thinking the Devil would be permitted > to take him bodily by way of example to the company he had been with. > However, he mounted his horse and as he rid home, he fancied that the trees > struck at him, and the stars frowned at it. In this terror he continued > about three weeks, reforming but not able to sleep much and wasting in flesh > and strength. After this he was tempted to believe that he never could be > saved until he had been faithful to his old master, the Devil, for hitherto > he had been faithful to neither; and he began to serve the Devil faithfully. > Meantime a stranger came to his house whose name is John Newton (now a > minister), and read Isaiah 33d Chapter [elsewhere he wrote that it was the > fifty-third chapter], three verses, which put him in the mind of seeking > salvation. Newton goes away...he [Mulky] follows afar off from an > apprehension that as soon as he lost sight of him fire would come as when > Lot left Sodom. Shortly afterwards Mulky [sometimes written Mulkey] found > peace, and seemingly under Newton's direction went to Sandy Creek where he > was baptized on December 25, 1756 at the age of 24. Philip Mulky was > ordained on the month of October, 1757, and became pastor of Deep River > Baptist Church. He later planted churches in the wilderness of South > Carolina [Fair Forest Baptist Church, lively and zealous] and was one of the > most successful and active of the early Separate [Baptist] preachers, > according to Paschal (pp. 293-294, 386). > > "While the Baptists from the parts of NC to the north of Sandy Creek went to > TN, those from Little River and the southeastern parts of the Province went > rather to SC when they despaired of being protected in their rights by the > Government of North Carolina" (Paschal, p. 385). Morgan Edwards seems "not > to have visited this section of the Province" [present-day Duplin County, > NC] during his tour in 1772. "It is probable that before Morgan Edward's > tour in 1772 the [Baptist] church at Black River [where Rev. John Newton > became pastor in 1757] has been brought to extinction by the removal of its > members to other provinces to escape the unjust taxation and extortions of > officers under Tryon's administration. Such migrations had reduced the once > large Great Cohara [Baptist] church to eight members, and doubtless greatly > depleted all the churches of this section" (Paschal, p. 323). Morgan Edwards > did later write a biographical sketch of Rev. John Newton, after he was > ordained again in SC, and stated that he "had preached many years before in > NC where his labors had been much blest" (Paschal, p. 390). > > Rev. John Newton went to South Carolina in 1765. Resulting from the > preaching of Rev. Philip Mulky, in whose conversion he was instrumental, and > Rev. Daniel Marshall who preached in SC from age 55 to 65 [then to GA with > unabated missionary zeal and with never failing success], converts in the > Congaree area were organized into the Congaree Baptist Church on November > 30, 1766. Joseph Reese, whom Mulky had baptized, was ordained pastor by > Elders Oliver Hart and Evan Pugh, and with him as colleague Rev. John Newton > in 1768. Under the enthusiastic ministry of Mr. Reese, the Congaree Baptist > Church in five years had four branches [in other words, had mothered four > new churches]. As Hart and Pugh were Regular Baptists and not Separates, > trouble arose in consequence of their ordaining Reese and Newton (Paschal, > p. 390). Regarding Rev. Newton, Paschal also stated: "Both he and Reese got > into trouble because they had accepted this ordination at the hands of two > Particular Baptist ministers, Rev. Oilver Hart and Rev. Evan Pugh, and were > silenced by the Sandy Creek [Baptist] Association" (p. 322). Morgan Edwards > states that Rev. Reese and Rev. Newton "were both injured by the Sandy Creek > Association in NC [with which the Congaree Baptist Church had connections] > for their receiving ordination from the Regular Baptists" (Paschal, p. 390). > According to Morgan Edwards, "Mr. Reese made acknowledgement and was > restored to their favor and his ordination confirmed; Mr. Newton thought he > had done what was right and would make no acknowledgement. The Assn. > claiming authority to govern the churches directed Mr. Reese and the church > to silence Mr. Newton. This was accordingly done while he was in the midst > of a useful and successful work" (Paschal, p. 390). > > Twenty years later, after formation of the Bethel Baptist Association > [parent of Broad River, Saluda, and Edgefield Baptist Associations] in 1789, > the "little differences between Separates and Regulars were upon the > initiative of the Bethel Association adjusted, and the distinction of > Separate and Regular fell into disuse, as it was already falling into disuse > in North Carolina" (Paschal, p. 393). > > Those "little differences" proved too much for Rev. Newton, however. Paschal > reports: "Both Mr. Reese and the church were afterwards convinced they were > wrong in obeying the mandate of the Assn. and restored Mr. Newton; but he > never fully engaged in ministerial work afterward" (p. 390). > > "Where there is no vision, the people perish" Proverbs:29:18 > > *************************************************************************** > QUEENSCASTLE BRANCHES AND BOUGHS > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegaleire > Homepage/Donegal, Ireland, Poland & Russia Information > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Estates/6587 > Home of Donegal, Ireland Information Site > Also Poland & Russia