The 1790 and 1800 Rutherford Co., NC census records give William Lewis Queen as having 9 children on the 1790, 12 on the 1800 counting Meredith who marries in 1797. There are 3 in 1810 one male and 2 females and appears wife has died these are the ages to be the 3 born after 1790 census. On the 1820 Rutherford census William Lewis Queen is living one household apart from "Blind John Jones" and there is evidence that these families had a very close relationship. Old William Queen was not in Rutherford for the 1790 Census, He signs papers in Randolph Co., NC giving son William in Rutherford County, NC power of attorney. He returns on the 1800 Census with one male and one female age 45 and above. Old William dies between 1800 census and July 1801 when Stephen Hogue, Administrator of estate of William Queen deceased returns inventory. There are children unaccounted for???? Who has all twelve accounted for??? Where is there a document that gives any evidence that William Lewis Queens wife was Margaret, think it has been pretty much decided that there is no documented evidence of her surname being Meredith. There is no definitive proof that Olive Vine's last name was Queen, or that she was the daughter of William Lewis Queen. However, there is strong circumstantial evidence that leads to that conclusion. Just because the name Olive Vine doesn't appear in someone's "file" as a daughter of William Lewis Queen does not necessarily mean that she is not his daughter. The census records indicate that there were at least twelve children of William Lewis Queen, some of whom have not been fully accounted for. There is very little documentation as to the existence of all children of William Lewis Queen. On the 1790 Rutherford Co., NC census William Queen has 1 male under 16, 4 males over 16, and 6 females. He is the only person with the "Queen" surname in Rutherford County. By 1800, William has 1-Male under 10; 3-Males (16-26); 1-Male over 45; 2-Females (under 10); 3-Female (10-16); 2-Female (16-26); 1-Female (26-45). This census documentation confirms that William Lewis Queen had at least 12 children. Olive Vine Queen would conform to the number of females listed on these two census. Additionally, on the 1820 Rutherford Co., NC census, Page 390, William Queen is shown living one household away from Olive Vine's father in law, "Blind John Jones." The name "Olive, Olive Vine, and Olivina runs through out the Queen and Jones family lines. Edward Jones sister, Ursula, who married James H. Queen, known son of William Lewis Queen, named a daughter Olive Vine. William Lewis Queen, Jr. and Samuel Queen also named daughters "Olive Vine." Mary Ann Queen, who married Robert Hemphill, named a daughter "Olive Vine Hemphill." Rebecca Queen, who married Robert Jones, son of "Blind John Jones", named a daughter "Olivine." The Olive name is unusual for that time and even today, not like the obligatory Sarah, Mary and Elizabeth that filled every family line. 1850 US Census, Haywood Co., NC; Page 191: Edward Jones with wife Ollif Vine age 61. (Some one at some time read the name as Wines and that just keeps going and going) Dennis Wilson President Hamilton County Tennessee Genealogical Society Chattanooga, TN _http://www.hctgs.org/_ (http://www.hctgs.org/)

I need to update my tree to include Olive, but I'm baffled asto where to put her. Your email shows that Olive Vines father-in-law was Blind John Jones. Tell me more if you can. Does any of the documentation mention Olives mother or her husband? I show an Olive Vine married to Carter Ross, but that wasn't until 1832. And who are all these unidentified children of William Lewis. ? Help ! Don ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 10:34 AM Subject: [QUEEN] Reply to William Lewis Queen Sr. > The 1790 and 1800 Rutherford Co., NC census records give William Lewis > Queen > as having 9 children on the 1790, 12 on the 1800 counting Meredith who > marries in 1797. There are 3 in 1810 one male and 2 females and appears > wife has > died these are the ages to be the 3 born after 1790 census. On the 1820 > Rutherford census William Lewis Queen is living one household apart from > "Blind > John Jones" and there is evidence that these families had a very close > relationship. > > Old William Queen was not in Rutherford for the 1790 Census, He signs > papers > in Randolph Co., NC giving son William in Rutherford County, NC power of > attorney. He returns on the 1800 Census with one male and one female age > 45 and > above. Old William dies between 1800 census and July 1801 when Stephen > Hogue, Administrator of estate of William Queen deceased returns > inventory. > > There are children unaccounted for???? Who has all twelve accounted > for??? > > > Where is there a document that gives any evidence that William Lewis > Queens > wife was Margaret, think it has been pretty much decided that there is no > documented evidence of her surname being Meredith. > > > > There is no definitive proof that Olive Vine's last name was Queen, or > that > she was the daughter of William Lewis Queen. However, there is strong > circumstantial evidence that leads to that conclusion. Just because the > name Olive > Vine doesn't appear in someone's "file" as a daughter of William Lewis > Queen > does not necessarily mean that she is not his daughter. The census > records > indicate that there were at least twelve children of William Lewis Queen, > some > of whom have not been fully accounted for. > > There is very little documentation as to the existence of all children of > William Lewis Queen. On the 1790 Rutherford Co., NC census William Queen > has 1 > male under 16, 4 males over 16, and 6 females. He is the only person with > the > "Queen" surname in Rutherford County. By 1800, William has 1-Male under > 10; > 3-Males (16-26); 1-Male over 45; 2-Females (under 10); 3-Female (10-16); > 2-Female (16-26); 1-Female (26-45). This census documentation confirms > that > William Lewis Queen had at least 12 children. Olive Vine Queen would > conform to > the number of females listed on these two census. Additionally, on the > 1820 > Rutherford Co., NC census, Page 390, William Queen is shown living one > household > away from Olive Vine's father in law, "Blind John Jones." > > The name "Olive, Olive Vine, and Olivina runs through out the Queen and > Jones family lines. Edward Jones sister, Ursula, who married James H. > Queen, > known son of William Lewis Queen, named a daughter Olive Vine. William > Lewis > Queen, Jr. and Samuel Queen also named daughters "Olive Vine." Mary Ann > Queen, > who married Robert Hemphill, named a daughter "Olive Vine Hemphill." > Rebecca > Queen, who married Robert Jones, son of "Blind John Jones", named a > daughter > "Olivine." > > The Olive name is unusual for that time and even today, not like the > obligatory Sarah, Mary and Elizabeth that filled every family line. > > 1850 US Census, Haywood Co., NC; Page 191: > Edward Jones with wife Ollif Vine age 61. > (Some one at some time read the name as Wines and that just keeps going > and > going) > > > Dennis Wilson > President > Hamilton County Tennessee Genealogical Society > Chattanooga, TN > _http://www.hctgs.org/_ (http://www.hctgs.org/) > > > ==== QUEEN Mailing List ==== > Visit my homepage: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegaleire/ > QUEEN YDNA PROJECT > http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=X96855&special=True > http://www.ysearch.org/ > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.2 - Release Date: 5/2/2005 >