Appreciate Rolla's response. Scot Kendall, please join in. Great minds, or weak minds, a mixture of minds, and never minds sometimes come together. Rolla has presented an idea that continues to interest me. "4) Test prices are dropping and testing panels are expanding. It would be good to urge all the testing companies to offer reasonable priced testing to bridge the gaps between FTDNA and Relative Genetics for instance." "... we don't want to end up with tests so far removed that we have a BETA/VHS crisis in the ancestry testing area." Our listowner has been very tolerant of some discussions that have not been exactly "on topic", but it may be asking too much tolerance of the listowner and rootsweb to get into deep "on-list" discussions regarding specific labs and costs. However, I'd very much like to take a hard look at what some other company offers in the way of markers as compared to the other. I'm specifically interested in any particular marker that appears to point the way as the 19 and 20 has for us. Is there a specific marker available that may open a door for us? I'm recommending/requesting that Scott and Rolla go off-list with me and let's beat this thing around. Let's look at the results of the Queen Project and the MacQueen (etc) Project and look for clues that could help each group. A limited number of cross-testing with the two labs may yield some positive results. We may even be able to develop a cross-testing plan for a number of samples and negotiate with the labs BEFORE agreeing to a darn thing with them. This would require additional samples from the selected donors; but hopefully, that would not be difficult with the living donors. Queen-L folks, be forewarned. As one voice, I would not plan to flood Queen-L with minute details of discussions; but we would advise the list of our recommendations and action plans. Rolla and Scott, let's ROLL! We're burning daylight. I ain't gettin any younger. 64 today! Gene