1. Another "19" on 520 in the group to begin to really raise the question of which came first - the 19 or 20.....and/or do the 19/20's all come from old William. Could there be a brother to old William involved here? Opinion is wide open. 2. My focus on kits 31268 and 72192 with 19's and the 11 on 565; but one with the 15 on 464c. .....a. These two donors are first cousins. We already know that the 19 came from Alfred...and perhaps originated earlier. .....b. The 11 on 565 would have been passed down from their most recent common ancestor, George Wilson Queen of 1883. However, we do not know if it originated with him or with John R. Queen of 1854, son of Alfred. ....c. The 15 on 464c originated with the donor, or with his dad, born in 1904. We'll know the answer when his brother's kit 63451 is ready next month. 3. Evidence suggests that Alfred of 1810 had only one mutation, the 19 on 520. Comments welcomed. Gene