Hi Carol and all, Very much appreciate Carol's response to the Macon Co observations. Two points of clarification/confusion? 1. Who was that William age 20<30 on 1830 Macon census? I neither agree nor disagree with assumptions as to the father of this William. What intrigues me most is that Samuel Patton Queen was reportedly born on 12-16-1833 in MACON Co. This is a key time frame for some Queen activity associated with a number of Queens. Other assumptions concerning William are these possibilities: Samuel Queen (age 70 on 1850 Rabun Co., GA census) m. Nancy ...son Hugh Queen (b. 1808-1811 NC) m. 1st Elizabeth H. Woodall ........dau Martha J. Queen (b. 1835 GA) ........son John W. Queen (b. 1838 GA) ...son William Queen (b. 1800-1803 m. 5-6-1824 Burke) m. Mary Ann Patton ........son Samuel Patton Queen (b. 12-16-1833 Macon) Please note that neither the link of Samuel Patton to this William nor the link of this William to Samuel are necessarily absolute. Neither can I forget that this Samuel aged 70 in 1850 Rabun fits the age of the Samuel who was in 1840 Habersham, Ga and 1830 Haywood Co., NC. Makes that Hugh, above, most interesting in light of Gayle's post of a Hugh in Macon in 1832/33 on land adjoining Josiah Jones. 2. The identity of the James Queen on 1830 Macon is fairly solid, although I'm always in the market for and digging for more evidence. The Cullowhee and Bryson Branch area of Macon were the early stomping grounds for James and Isabella Bryson Queen. Their first child and only daughter, (another Martha J.! ,my Alfred's first dau was also Martha J.!), was buried in the Cullowhee Baptist Church cemetery in 1848. A son of Samuel (b. ca 1776-1780) drops from the census listing of 1830 Haywood (probably on the Haywood Co side of the Cullowhee area) while a James Queen of the "proper" age appears in Macon County census of 1830 where his wife's folks lived. He had married on 10-17-1829. A few years later, on 2-3-1833, Mary Queen, a daughter of Samuel, marries Wm B. Morgan in Macon County. In the early 1830's William L. Queen shows up in Macon, reportedly living with son, Joseph (who was listed on 1830 Haywood census). It certainly appears to me that there was a gathering of the Queen clan in the Cullowhee/Webster area in the early 1830's for some reason. Another group of the folks were gathering in the Caney Fork area in the 1820's and early 1830's while Mary Queen Hemphill was in the Scotts Creek area. There's always room for doubt when dealing with circumstantial evidence; but for now, I'd take it to the bank that this James Queen was the man who married Isabella Bryson and that his father was the Samuel Queen of 1776-1780. I'm not asking others to accept it, only consider it. Thanks, Gene