Hi all, I have had, and still do have, a great deal on my plate, so I apologize for throwing in only tidbits, but you never know... According to my cousin, Connie Barnes Southard, her QUEEN documentation goes back to the 1700's, with their migration to NC from the Columbia, SC area. I eventually (gasp!) intend to share what I have with her in hopes of discovering any apparent discrepancies and potential leads. Until then, perhaps kind soul out there can shed light on this as well. I guess my question at this time would be is/was there a Burke County anywhere near the Columbia, SC area? John W. QUEEN, Jr. --> Sim M. QUEEN --> Martha Ella QUEEN Arvey --> Lois Arvey Phillips --> Gayle Phillips Cantrell John W. QUEEN, Jr. --> Sim M. QUEEN --> Mary Jane QUEEN Burnett --> Bana Burnett Barnes --> Connie Barnes Southard Very best regards, Gayle Cantrell gpcantrell@home.com P.S. Mandy, was Martha 38 or 28 on the 1850 census? Thanks! "It is hard when looking at the pasts of other people to understand the fine points of their lives. It is difficult to know the exact shadings of dates which were never written down and to know the intricacies of events which we have not lived through ourselves but only viewed from the distances of time and space." No Great Mischief © 1999 by Alistair MacLeod, 1st American Edition 2000, W.W. Norton & Company Ltd. -----Original Message----- From: MndyQn@aol.com [mailto:MndyQn@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 9:35 AM To: QUEEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [QUEEN] John Queen Hi, Got some questions about John William Queen, Sr and Jr. These are from census: 1860 (jw, sr would be 86-91{if living}think he died btw 1851-1860; jw, jr would be 44) Queen, John W (jr) Macon Co NC: John W. Queen 43M b. Burke Co., NC, Martha 37F b. Burke Co., NC, Mira E. 14F, Butler Thomas 12M, Adda A 10F, Sarah E. 7F, William M. 4M and "unnamed" 5/12, all born Macon Co., NC. 1850 (jw,sr would be 76-81; jw, jr would be 34) Queen, John (jr) Macon NC; 34, Martha 38, Lucy 8, Elvira 5, Butler 4, Brunetta 3/12, John 76 b Mont Co 1840 (jw,sr would be 66-71; jw, jr married this yr (Oct) would be 24) (jw jr's first child b. 1842 Macon Co) Queen, John, Macon NC Aged 60-70 yrs Est birth 1770-1780 +1 M 20-30 (john, jr) Quinn, J. W. , Macon NC Aged 30-40 yrs Est birth 1800-1810 +1 M 16-20 Question: If John Wm Jr married in OCT of 1840 and he's still in John W Sr's hh who is this J W Quinn in Macon Co? Queen or Quinn? Does anyone have the rest of this census? 1830 (jw sr would be 56-61; jw jr would be 14) Queen, John Burke NC Queen, John Macon NC 1m 10-15, 1m 20-30, 1f 20-30 Queen, John Lincoln NC Quean, John Rowan NC Queen, John Haywood NC (20-30) Question: Does anyone have a copy of the JW sr in burke Co? Reiley stated that this JW sr was in Burke Co on Cove Creek. Who are all these other John's? JW jr would still be at home being 14. 1820 (jw sr would be 46-51; jw jr would be 4) Queen, John Burke NC 1 M +45, 1 M 10-16, 1 M 0-10, 1 F +45, 2 F 16-26, 3 F 0-10 1810 (jw sr would be 36-41) Queen, John Rowan NC 26-45 M, 16-26 F (not jw sr? he would have children, see 1810 & 1820) Queen, John Montgomery NC Queen, John Martin NC Question: Where was John William Sr in 1810? Who are these other Johns? Reiley places JW sr in Rutherford Co in 1806,1808,1809 (deeds, etc) 1800 (jw sr would be 26-31, mar abt. 1793-1795?) Queen, John Ruth. NC 1m -10, 1m 16-26, 2f -10, 1f 16-26 1790 (jw sr would be 16-21 at home w/parents) Queen, Henson Mont. Co NC 02-02-03 Just trying to get all my ducks in a row :) Mandy ______________________________