Linda, et al : It is a long time between 1786 [Reuben's birth] and 2005 or, more specifically ca. 1925 [Nolan's birthdate?]. Lots of time to figure out the mutations and when they occurred. Katy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Menikos" <[email protected]> To: "Katy McMillen" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 5:01 AM Subject: Re: [QUEEN] Why Reuben kin to Samuel > Katy, > > I thought Gene had ruled out Samuel being Reuben's dad by the DNA. Am I > mistaken here? > > Linda > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Katy McMillen" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 6:19 PM > Subject: [QUEEN] Why Reuben kin to Samuel > > >> Thanks Luann-"Lee" is a girl, dau. of Edmond Queen, not a son. >> Corrected. >> Samuel Queen, probably 6th son of "Old William" and Margaret Queen, > born 1759, died 1842, He married Dicey [Laodicia?] Rolls on 2/21/1783. > Possible child?, second child, second son: >> Reuben Queen (b. 1786?NC--ca. 1863TX) >> >> 1)Reuben named his first son "Samuel"; second son for father-in-law > [Mary Catherine Butler's father:] "Elias Butler Queen". Then, Elias B. > Queen > named his first son "Samuel", born circa 1843 [a year after his > Grandfather > ? Samuel died in NC]. Elias in Arkansas, Carroll Co.. >> 2)Reuben's supposed sister married Sam R. Carson. Our Aunt Lee > Queen McGarrey said:"We are kin to Kit >> [Christopher] Carson.." {Noted trapper and Western trailsman.] >> 3)Supposed younger brother William B. Queen 1796-1887: >> Reuben and assumed brother "William Queen" are both in 1840 Arkansas > Census: Prairie Township, Carroll Co.--William Queen on page 44; Reuben on > page 98 with families. >> 4)Reuben, having moved (1848) his "stock raising" operation to > Williamson Co, TX, relinquishes it to sons Sam & Elias B. in the 1850's > and > moves to "Lampasas Co." TX . Land in what became Mills Co. just east of > the > Colorado River. Mary Catherine (Butler), Reuben's wife dies in mid to > late > 50's/ he lives close to youngest dau. Margaret.Reuben dies[best estimate > 1863]in TX. >> 5)Elias Butler Queen names 3rd sons [twins] William L. and John, born > in 1853. John lives only one month. Wm.L. is Robert Lee Queen's oldest > full-brother. [KSM: I consider the naming of Wm and John as a "marker" > going back to Elias B's and Reuben's ancestry]. >> 6) "William Queen", by himself, in Elias B.'s household [1870 or > 1880/ census, Williamson Co. TX] [KSM: Was William ill? Obviously, by > age, he's the one from ARK. >> Now, to skip to supposed younger brother of >> Reuben: Samuel and Dicey Queen's 6th? son -- >> 7) John R. Queen 1803 NC--1883 NC [?] who md. Mary Coward. 8+ > children: a. Mary Magdalene 1854--1911; b.H.D.R.Queen b.1859; c. Samuel > J. > 1861-1924; d.Thos. Hampton Queen 1863--, e. Jasper Lee 1865-1956; f. > Lawny > Jane 1868; g.Edith C. 1870; h. Reuben R. Queen* 1871 Jackson Co. NC--1906 > NC > [he had son Reuben R. Queen, Jr.1906--1907]. [*KSM: named for "Uncle > Reuben" who had died in Texas, ca. 1863?]. OK? Katy >> >> >> ==== QUEEN Mailing List ==== >> Visit Reiley Kidd's homepg to view Queen information >> compiled and catagorized by first name: >> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Bluffs/2864/ >> QUEEN YDNA PROJECT >> http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=X96855&special=True >> http://www.ysearch.org/ >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 267.4.0 - Release Date: 6/1/2005 > >