If it is possible to block whoever "ITSSales" is from EVER posing on this list again I would support it. We do not need that gutter language nor mentality and questionable stability and attitude. It is simply not productive. Sue has introduced a plethora of new information to the site and should be greatly appreciated. Jim Queen -----Original Message----- From: queen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:queen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of queen-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 12:02 PM To: queen@rootsweb.com Subject: QUEEN Digest, Vol 2, Issue 98 When replying to a digest post, quote only the specific text to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. TO VIEW PREVIOUS EMAILS BY SUBJECT, GO TO THE THREADED ARCHIVES AT http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/listowners TO VIEW PREVIOUS EMAILS BY DATES AND SUBJECT GO TO THE SEARCHABLE ARCHIVES AT http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/listowners > http://webpages.charter.net/rlqueen/DNA/queenmarker.htm > > http://www.familytreedna.com/public/queenDNA/ Today's Topics: 1. Re: The name Queen (Don Queen) 2. Re: Queen (ITS SALES) 3. Re: Queen (Don Queen) 4. FW: Queen (ITS SALES) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 08:21:01 -0700 From: "Don Queen" <don.queen@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [QUEEN] The name Queen To: "ITS SALES" <sales@its-limited.co.uk> Cc: Queen@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <7d7cd5f00707060821y4f13ca4bh944dcd109e996c4d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi Sharon and all. I remember a great line that answers your question. "In the Colonies it was neither fashionable nor desirable to be a Scot" The Royalists who dominated Colonial Society brought with them from England their utter distain for any Scottish, hence the disappearance of many Mc's and Mac's. Regarding your Irish heritage remember, "an Irishman is only a Scot who learned to swim" The best research that discusses the name change was that of Myles Philbeck in 1997 published in the BGSOTC (does anyone recall what that stands for ?) His 13 page treatise on the Queen family is the only solid indication of the name change, but alas, it remains little more than a great theory. Don Queen On 7/6/07, ITS SALES <sales@its-limited.co.uk> wrote: > > > Hi Sue, > > I am fairly new to this list so please bear with me. > > I read your email with great interest. > > I find it fasinating that you have proof that the name QUEEN or MCQUEEN or > MACQUEEN is not british I cannot wait to see your paperwork, which I > presume > is forthcoming to the list. > > Where did your CHARLES QUEEN and wife come from? > > I am presuming another part of Europe and would be very interested to find > out where. You do realise that British means Scots, English, Irish or > Welsh. I myself am a Scot and personally find it quite patronising to be > called British. > > It is impossible for the Queen family to come from one human being. I > understand why you have to look so much, I have to too. And found things > I > did not really want to know but that is history. No DNA or any other > study > will find out everything. > > I am a Queen through my mother and as far as I have gone back it is QUEEN > from Ireland. > > Can you tell me if the native Americans were called queen as I just don't > understand where the name has derived from. > > Sharon > When replying to a digest post, quote only the specific text to which you > are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, > remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the > message subject to which you are replying. > > > TO VIEW PREVIOUS EMAILS BY SUBJECT, GO TO THE THREADED ARCHIVES AT > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/listowners > > TO VIEW PREVIOUS EMAILS BY DATES AND SUBJECT GO TO THE SEARCHABLE ARCHIVES > AT http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/listowners > > > http://webpages.charter.net/rlqueen/DNA/queenmarker.htm > > > > http://www.familytreedna.com/public/queenDNA/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > QUEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- 13614 Lake Wildwood Dr Penn Valley, Ca. 95946 530-432-9520 Cell 530-277-7372 ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 16:37:35 +0100 From: "ITS SALES" <sales@its-limited.co.uk> Subject: Re: [QUEEN] Queen To: <msbaldwin43@aol.com> Cc: Queen@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <20070706153900.17324@be.che.vodafone> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi There, Thought I would let everybody know what nice correspondence you get on this list. As you can see this was not put on list. I object strongly to it. What is your nationality Sue? Are you Irish or American Irish or Canadian Irish or Scots Irish or something else. Or are you American Well lets just say you probably have the intelligence of George Bush, I am not BRITISH I am SCOTTISH my Grandparents are Irish. Does that mean I am SCOTS IRISH or just SCOTTISH. I am RC and grew up in the West of Scotland (not that long ago I only left Scotland in 1998) my children are a mixture of SCOTTISH and ENGLISH. I grew up with the hatred of Celtic and Ranger The Orange Walk every July and the Hibs walk. I am so glad that sue belongs to the HIBERNIAN MOVEMENT just like others belong to the ORANGE LODGE it just proves what a bigoted movement they really are!! Sue obviously has no understanding of history or she would not be such a bigot. I did not refer to the Republic of Ireland as being British, but in Ulster both Catholic And Prodestant and any other religions have to have a British Passport. I am SCOTTISH but have to have a British passport. Please Sue send us all your paperwork. I do not intend to look up the internet if you have proof of your stupid theories then post them otherwise shut the fuck up. As for fighting Talk, talk about something you know something about not something you might have read somewhere My email is sales@its-limited.co.uk If you every get out of your 17th Century American History, and actually get an education please feel free to contact me. _____ From: msbaldwin43@aol.com [mailto:msbaldwin43@aol.com] Sent: 06 July 2007 15:48 To: sales@its-limited.co.uk Subject: Queen Don't tell people in the Irish Republic they are British. Those are fighting words. I belong to a group and am chairperson for our Lady Hibernians for "The Freedom for all of Ireland" Sorry, but I feel very strongly about the British invasion of Ireland and the brutality placed upon them. My paper work is actually from the Scotish web pages. You will see the McQueens listed on their records. The following web sites for Scotland list a number of Mc and MacQueens. I know that the dates are later than our first Queens arrived here. However, there are some researchers links that may be useful Sue <http://www.fifefhs.org/Records/newburghac.htm> Your Wills <http://www.fifefhs.org/Records/newburghac.htm> & Testament Search Returns You <http://www.fifefhs.org/Records/newburghac.htm> searched for: Surname: "McQueen"; Use Soundex; Forename: ""; Year From: 1513; Year To: 1700; Court / Commissariot: "Inverness Commissary Court"; Order By: "None"; Page <http://www.fifefhs.org/Records/newburghac.htm> 1 (Free) 2 (Free) 3 (Free) of 3 (63 records) <http://www.fifefhs.org/Records/newburghac.htm> No Surname Forename Date Description Type Court Reference 51 McQueen Swein 09/08/1676 of Morclune TD Inverness Commissary Court CC11/1/3 52 McLeane Lauchlane 17/02/1669 lawful son to Alexander McLean of Wester Lynebulg TD Inverness Commissary Court CC11/1/2 53 McQueine Cristane 30/10/1669 spouse to Finlay McClay in Pitmean TD Inverness Commissary Court CC11/1/2 54 McQueine Marie 07/09/1666 spouse to Andrew McPhersone of Wester Rait TD Inverness Commissary Court CC11/1/2 55 McQuian Donald 26/06/1677 in Rindowy, and Janet Donill vic Phaill, his spouse TD Inverness Commissary Court CC11/1/3 56 McQuian John 10/05/1676 tenant in Drumreoch TT Inverness Commissary Court CC11/1/3 57 McQueen Elspet 31/07/1678 spouse to James McCay in Tornagaven TT Inverness Commissary Court CC11/1/3 58 MacEwne Agnes 05/09/1630 neyn Ewir McEwne, spouse to Donald McConochie TD Inverness Commissary Court CC11/1/1 59 MacEwne Finlay 13/10/1630 in Standing Stanes, parish of Inverness TD Inverness Commissary Court CC11/1/1 60 MacQueyne Williame 22/03/1631 in Hurlarnst TT Inverness Commissary Court CC11/1/1 61 MacQueine Suein 22/01/1633 in Roybeg, parish of Moy TT Inverness Commissary Court CC11/1/1 62 McQueban Donald 15/10/1631 in Gask, parish of Dunlichity TD Inverness Commissary Court CC11/1/1 63 MacQueyn Donald 22/11/1630 parson of Pettie TD Inverness Commissary Court CC11/1/1 Click here for normal version <http://www.fifefhs.org/Records/newburghac.htm> <http://www.fifefhs.org/Records/newburghac.htm> <http://www.fifefhs.org/Records/newburghac.htm> <http://www.fifefhs.org/Records/newburghac.htm> http://www.fifefhs.org/Records/newburghac.htm McQUEEN, Ann, b c 1780, Dunfermline, Fife - <mailto:%20Carol-Martin%20Woolongong-NSW-Australia> "email Carol Martin details <http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/scot/Fife/ft/fife.contacts6MN.htm#Carol.Ma rtin .07.ABBF3M.28De97> McQUEEN Daniel m Ann Baillie b 1757; son John b 1770 Newburgh - James McQueen <mailto:jmcqC4th@aol.com> - details <http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/scot/Fife/ft/fife.contacts6Mc.htm#James.Mc Quee n.04Aug2005> McQUEEN, Isabella Russel b 1817, Flisk, Fife - Keith Clark <mailto:%20Keith-Clark%20Hallett-Cove-South-Australia> "email Keith Clark - details <http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/scot/Fife/ft/fife.contacts2D.htm#Keith.Cla rk.0 3.CCM.17.fe.98> - QUERY <http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/scot/Fife/ft/fife.queries1.html#McQUEEN.CL ARK. 17fe98> McQUEEN William m SYME Elizabeth 1830 Falkland, Fife - James McQueen <mailto:jmcqC4th@aol.com> - details <http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/scot/Fife/ft/fife.contacts6Mc.htm#James.Mc Quee n.04Aug2005> McQUEEN William; Farm Servant, Flisk, Fife, m Christian Coventry 1797, Newburgh, Fife. Children Agness McQueen 1806, Issobella Russell <mailto:%20Keith-Clark%20Hallett-Cove-South-Australia> "email Keith Clark details <http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/scot/Fife/ft/fife.contacts2D.htm#Keith.Cla rk.0 3.CCM.17.fe.98> - QUERY <http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/scot/Fife/ft/fife.queries1.html#McQUEEN.CL ARK. 17fe98> MacQueen; Killean Kilchenzie area; 1800-1864; Judith; judith@well-com.net.au <mailto:judith@well-com.net.au?Subject=Argyllshire%20Surname%20List> McQueen; Jura and Luing; 1775+; Louise; lasmith@skylinc.net <mailto:lasmith@skylinc.net?Subject=Argyllshire%20Surname%20List> MacQueen; Killarow,Bowmore; 1820; Joe; joe.russell@btinternet.com <mailto:joe.russell@btinternet.com?Subject=Argyllshire%20Surname%20List> McQueen; Jura; c1800 and all; Pat; mccabe@istar.ca <mailto:mccabe@istar.ca?Subject=Argyllshire%20Surname%20List> McQueen; Easdale Oban; c.1800+; Cathie; Clava44@aol.com <mailto:Clava44@aol.com?Subject=Argyllshire%20Surname%20List> McQueen; Any; 1800 +; Thelma; thawkes@ciaccess.com <mailto:thawkes@ciaccess.com?Subject=Argyllshire%20Surname%20List> McQueen; Islay; Pre 1850; Sue; genealgal2@execulink.com <mailto:genealgal2@execulink.com?Subject=Argyllshire%20Surname%20List> The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments: Shortcut to: http://members.aol.com/sloinne/Argyll/listmacLtoZ.htm I am presuming another part of Europe and would be very interested to find out where. You do realise that British means Scots, English, Irish or Welsh. I myself am a Scot and personally find it quite patronising to be called British. <http://presence.webmail.aol.com/IM/?sn=msbaldwin43&locale=en-us&pd=0> Sue -----Original Message----- From: ITS SALES <sales@its-limited.co.uk> To: Queen@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 9:20 am Subject: [QUEEN] The name Queen Hi Sue, I am fairly new to this list so please bear with me. I read your email with great interest. I find it fasinating that you have proof that the name QUEEN or MCQUEEN or MACQUEEN is not british I cannot wait to see your paperwork, which I presume is forthcoming to the list. Where did your CHARLES QUEEN and wife come from? I am presuming another part of Europe and would be very interested to find out where. You do realise that British means Scots, English, Irish or Welsh. I myself am a Scot and personally find it quite patronising to be called British. It is impossible for the Queen family to come from one human being. I understand why you have to look so much, I have to too. And found things I did not really want to know but that is history. No DNA or any other study will find out everything. I am a Queen through my mother and as far as I have gone back it is QUEEN from Ireland. Can you tell me if the native Americans were called queen as I just don't understand where the name has derived from. Sharon When replying to a digest post, quote only the specific text to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. TO VIEW PREVIOUS EMAILS BY SUBJECT, GO TO THE THREADED ARCHIVES AT http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/listowners TO VIEW PREVIOUS EMAILS BY DATES AND SUBJECT GO TO THE SEARCHABLE ARCHIVES AT http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/listowners > http://webpages.charter.net/rlqueen/DNA/queenmarker.htm > > http://www.familytreedna.com/public/queenDNA/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message <http://presence.webmail.aol.com/IM/?sn=msbaldwin43&locale=en-us&pd=0> Sue _____ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000437> AOL.com. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 08:45:07 -0700 From: "Don Queen" <don.queen@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [QUEEN] Queen To: "ITS SALES" <sales@its-limited.co.uk> Cc: Queen@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <7d7cd5f00707060845h5d5d2371m6de5af54023eebe3@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Please keep your opinions and your language to your self and stay off of our list. Don Queen On 7/6/07, ITS SALES <sales@its-limited.co.uk> wrote: > > > Hi There, > > Thought I would let everybody know what nice correspondence you get on > this > list. > > As you can see this was not put on list. > > I object strongly to it. What is your nationality Sue? Are you Irish or > American Irish or Canadian Irish or Scots Irish or something else. Or are > you American > Well lets just say you probably have the intelligence of George Bush, > > I am not BRITISH I am SCOTTISH my Grandparents are Irish. Does that mean > I > am SCOTS IRISH or just SCOTTISH. > > I am RC and grew up in the West of Scotland (not that long ago I only left > Scotland in 1998) my children are a mixture of SCOTTISH and ENGLISH. I > grew > up with the hatred of Celtic and Ranger > The Orange Walk every July and the Hibs walk. > > I am so glad that sue belongs to the HIBERNIAN MOVEMENT just like others > belong to the ORANGE LODGE it just proves what a bigoted movement they > really are!! > > Sue obviously has no understanding of history or she would not be such a > bigot. I did not refer to the Republic of Ireland as being British, but > in > Ulster both Catholic > And Prodestant and any other religions have to have a British Passport. I > am SCOTTISH but have to have a British passport. > > Please Sue send us all your paperwork. I do not intend to look up the > internet if you have proof of your stupid theories then post them > otherwise > shut the fuck up. > > As for fighting Talk, talk about something you know something about not > something you might have read somewhere > > My email is sales@its-limited.co.uk > > If you every get out of your 17th Century American History, and actually > get > an education please feel free to contact me. > _____ > > > > From: msbaldwin43@aol.com [mailto:msbaldwin43@aol.com] > Sent: 06 July 2007 15:48 > To: sales@its-limited.co.uk > Subject: Queen > > Don't tell people in the Irish Republic they are British. Those are > fighting > words. I belong to a group and am chairperson for our Lady Hibernians for > "The Freedom for all of Ireland" Sorry, but I feel very strongly about the > British invasion of Ireland and the brutality placed upon them. My paper > work is actually from the Scotish web pages. You will see the McQueens > listed on their records. > The following web sites for Scotland list a number of Mc and MacQueens. I > know that the dates are later than our first Queens arrived here. However, > there are some researchers links that may be useful Sue > <http://www.fifefhs.org/Records/newburghac.htm> > > > > > Your Wills <http://www.fifefhs.org/Records/newburghac.htm> & Testament > Search Returns > > You <http://www.fifefhs.org/Records/newburghac.htm> searched for: > Surname: > "McQueen"; Use Soundex; Forename: ""; Year From: 1513; Year To: 1700; > Court > / Commissariot: "Inverness Commissary Court"; Order By: "None"; > Page <http://www.fifefhs.org/Records/newburghac.htm> 1 (Free) 2 > (Free) > 3 (Free) of 3 (63 records) > <http://www.fifefhs.org/Records/newburghac.htm> > > > No > Surname > Forename > Date > Description > Type > Court > Reference > > 51 > McQueen > Swein > 09/08/1676 > of Morclune > TD > Inverness Commissary Court > CC11/1/3 > > 52 > McLeane > Lauchlane > 17/02/1669 > lawful son to Alexander McLean of Wester Lynebulg > TD > Inverness Commissary Court > CC11/1/2 > > 53 > McQueine > Cristane > 30/10/1669 > spouse to Finlay McClay in Pitmean > TD > Inverness Commissary Court > CC11/1/2 > > 54 > McQueine > Marie > 07/09/1666 > spouse to Andrew McPhersone of Wester Rait > TD > Inverness Commissary Court > CC11/1/2 > > 55 > McQuian > Donald > 26/06/1677 > in Rindowy, and Janet Donill vic Phaill, his spouse > TD > Inverness Commissary Court > CC11/1/3 > > 56 > McQuian > John > 10/05/1676 > tenant in Drumreoch > TT > Inverness Commissary Court > CC11/1/3 > > 57 > McQueen > Elspet > 31/07/1678 > spouse to James McCay in Tornagaven > TT > Inverness Commissary Court > CC11/1/3 > > 58 > MacEwne > Agnes > 05/09/1630 > neyn Ewir McEwne, spouse to Donald McConochie > TD > Inverness Commissary Court > CC11/1/1 > > 59 > MacEwne > Finlay > 13/10/1630 > in Standing Stanes, parish of Inverness > TD > Inverness Commissary Court > CC11/1/1 > > 60 > MacQueyne > Williame > 22/03/1631 > in Hurlarnst > TT > Inverness Commissary Court > CC11/1/1 > > 61 > MacQueine > Suein > 22/01/1633 > in Roybeg, parish of Moy > TT > Inverness Commissary Court > CC11/1/1 > > 62 > McQueban > Donald > 15/10/1631 > in Gask, parish of Dunlichity > TD > Inverness Commissary Court > CC11/1/1 > > 63 > MacQueyn > Donald > 22/11/1630 > parson of Pettie > TD > Inverness Commissary Court > CC11/1/1 > Click here for normal version > <http://www.fifefhs.org/Records/newburghac.htm> > <http://www.fifefhs.org/Records/newburghac.htm> > <http://www.fifefhs.org/Records/newburghac.htm> > <http://www.fifefhs.org/Records/newburghac.htm> > http://www.fifefhs.org/Records/newburghac.htm > > McQUEEN, Ann, b c 1780, Dunfermline, Fife - > <mailto:%20Carol-Martin%20Woolongong-NSW-Australia> "email Carol Martin > details > < > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/scot/Fife/ft/fife.contacts6MN.htm#Carol.Mar tin > .07.ABBF3M.28De97> > McQUEEN Daniel m Ann Baillie b 1757; son John b 1770 Newburgh - James > McQueen <mailto:jmcqC4th@aol.com> - details > < > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/scot/Fife/ft/fife.contacts6Mc.htm#James.McQ uee > n.04Aug2005> > McQUEEN, Isabella Russel b 1817, Flisk, Fife - Keith Clark > <mailto:%20Keith-Clark%20Hallett-Cove-South-Australia> "email Keith Clark > - > details > < > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/scot/Fife/ft/fife.contacts2D.htm#Keith.Clar k.0 > 3.CCM.17.fe.98> - QUERY > < > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/scot/Fife/ft/fife.queries1.html#McQUEEN.CLA RK > . > 17fe98> > McQUEEN William m SYME Elizabeth 1830 Falkland, Fife - James McQueen > <mailto:jmcqC4th@aol.com> - details > < > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/scot/Fife/ft/fife.contacts6Mc.htm#James.McQ uee > n.04Aug2005> > McQUEEN William; Farm Servant, Flisk, Fife, m Christian Coventry 1797, > Newburgh, Fife. Children Agness McQueen 1806, Issobella Russell > <mailto:%20Keith-Clark%20Hallett-Cove-South-Australia> "email Keith Clark > details > < > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/scot/Fife/ft/fife.contacts2D.htm#Keith.Clar k.0 > 3.CCM.17.fe.98> - QUERY > < > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/scot/Fife/ft/fife.queries1.html#McQUEEN.CLA RK > . > 17fe98> > MacQueen; Killean Kilchenzie area; 1800-1864; Judith; > judith@well-com.net.au > <mailto:judith@well-com.net.au?Subject=Argyllshire%20Surname%20List> > McQueen; Jura and Luing; 1775+; Louise; lasmith@skylinc.net > <mailto:lasmith@skylinc.net?Subject=Argyllshire%20Surname%20List> > MacQueen; Killarow,Bowmore; 1820; Joe; joe.russell@btinternet.com > <mailto:joe.russell@btinternet.com?Subject=Argyllshire%20Surname%20List> > McQueen; Jura; c1800 and all; Pat; mccabe@istar.ca > <mailto:mccabe@istar.ca?Subject=Argyllshire%20Surname%20List> > McQueen; Easdale Oban; c.1800+; Cathie; Clava44@aol.com > <mailto:Clava44@aol.com?Subject=Argyllshire%20Surname%20List> > McQueen; Any; 1800 +; Thelma; thawkes@ciaccess.com > <mailto:thawkes@ciaccess.com?Subject=Argyllshire%20Surname%20List> > McQueen; Islay; Pre 1850; Sue; genealgal2@execulink.com > <mailto:genealgal2@execulink.com?Subject=Argyllshire%20Surname%20List> > The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link > attachments: > Shortcut to: http://members.aol.com/sloinne/Argyll/listmacLtoZ.htm > > > I am presuming another part of Europe and would be very interested to find > out where. You do realise that British means Scots, English, Irish or > Welsh. I myself am a Scot and personally find it quite patronising to be > called British. > > <http://presence.webmail.aol.com/IM/?sn=msbaldwin43&locale=en-us&pd=0 > > Sue > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ITS SALES <sales@its-limited.co.uk> > To: Queen@rootsweb.com > Sent: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 9:20 am > Subject: [QUEEN] The name Queen > > Hi Sue, > > I am fairly new to this list so please bear with me. > > I read your email with great interest. > > I find it fasinating that you have proof that the name QUEEN or MCQUEEN or > MACQUEEN is not british I cannot wait to see your paperwork, which I > presume > is forthcoming to the list. > > Where did your CHARLES QUEEN and wife come from? > > I am presuming another part of Europe and would be very interested to find > out where. You do realise that British means Scots, English, Irish or > Welsh. I myself am a Scot and personally find it quite patronising to be > called British. > > It is impossible for the Queen family to come from one human being. I > understand why you have to look so much, I have to too. And found things > I > did not really want to know but that is history. No DNA or any other > study > will find out everything. > > I am a Queen through my mother and as far as I have gone back it is QUEEN > from Ireland. > > Can you tell me if the native Americans were called queen as I just don't > understand where the name has derived from. > > Sharon > When replying to a digest post, quote only the specific text to which you > are > replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, remember > to > > change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message > subject > to which you are replying. > > > TO VIEW PREVIOUS EMAILS BY SUBJECT, GO TO THE THREADED ARCHIVES AT > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/listowners > > TO VIEW PREVIOUS EMAILS BY DATES AND SUBJECT GO TO THE SEARCHABLE ARCHIVES > AT > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/listowners > > > http://webpages.charter.net/rlqueen/DNA/queenmarker.htm > > > > http://www.familytreedna.com/public/queenDNA/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > QUEEN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > <http://presence.webmail.aol.com/IM/?sn=msbaldwin43&locale=en-us&pd=0 > > Sue > _____ > > AOL now offers free email to everyone. 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Also, > remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the > message subject to which you are replying. > > > TO VIEW PREVIOUS EMAILS BY SUBJECT, GO TO THE THREADED ARCHIVES AT > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/listowners > > TO VIEW PREVIOUS EMAILS BY DATES AND SUBJECT GO TO THE SEARCHABLE ARCHIVES > AT http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/listowners > > > http://webpages.charter.net/rlqueen/DNA/queenmarker.htm > > > > http://www.familytreedna.com/public/queenDNA/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > QUEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- 13614 Lake Wildwood Dr Penn Valley, Ca. 95946 530-432-9520 Cell 530-277-7372 ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 17:00:37 +0100 From: "ITS SALES" <sales@its-limited.co.uk> Subject: [QUEEN] FW: Queen To: <Queen@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <20070706160142.25824@be.che.vodafone> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" _____ From: msbaldwin43@aol.com [mailto:msbaldwin43@aol.com] Sent: 06 July 2007 15:48 To: sales@its-limited.co.uk Subject: Queen Don't tell people in the Irish Republic they are British. Those are fighting words. I belong to a group and am chairperson for our Lady Hibernians for "The Freedom for all of Ireland" Sorry, but I feel very strongly about the British invasion of Ireland and the brutality placed upon them. My paper work is actually from the Scotish web pages. You will see the McQueens listed on their records. The following web sites for Scotland list a number of Mc and MacQueens. I know that the dates are later than our first Queens arrived here. However, there are some researchers links that may be useful Sue <http://www.fifefhs.org/Records/newburghac.htm> Your Wills <http://www.fifefhs.org/Records/newburghac.htm> & Testament Search Returns You <http://www.fifefhs.org/Records/newburghac.htm> searched for: Surname: "McQueen"; Use Soundex; Forename: ""; Year From: 1513; Year To: 1700; Court / Commissariot: "Inverness Commissary Court"; Order By: "None"; Page <http://www.fifefhs.org/Records/newburghac.htm> 1 (Free) 2 (Free) 3 (Free) of 3 (63 records) <http://www.fifefhs.org/Records/newburghac.htm> No Surname Forename Date Description Type Court Reference 51 McQueen Swein 09/08/1676 of Morclune TD Inverness Commissary Court CC11/1/3 52 McLeane Lauchlane 17/02/1669 lawful son to Alexander McLean of Wester Lynebulg TD Inverness Commissary Court CC11/1/2 53 McQueine Cristane 30/10/1669 spouse to Finlay McClay in Pitmean TD Inverness Commissary Court CC11/1/2 54 McQueine Marie 07/09/1666 spouse to Andrew McPhersone of Wester Rait TD Inverness Commissary Court CC11/1/2 55 McQuian Donald 26/06/1677 in Rindowy, and Janet Donill vic Phaill, his spouse TD Inverness Commissary Court CC11/1/3 56 McQuian John 10/05/1676 tenant in Drumreoch TT Inverness Commissary Court CC11/1/3 57 McQueen Elspet 31/07/1678 spouse to James McCay in Tornagaven TT Inverness Commissary Court CC11/1/3 58 MacEwne Agnes 05/09/1630 neyn Ewir McEwne, spouse to Donald McConochie TD Inverness Commissary Court CC11/1/1 59 MacEwne Finlay 13/10/1630 in Standing Stanes, parish of Inverness TD Inverness Commissary Court CC11/1/1 60 MacQueyne Williame 22/03/1631 in Hurlarnst TT Inverness Commissary Court CC11/1/1 61 MacQueine Suein 22/01/1633 in Roybeg, parish of Moy TT Inverness Commissary Court CC11/1/1 62 McQueban Donald 15/10/1631 in Gask, parish of Dunlichity TD Inverness Commissary Court CC11/1/1 63 MacQueyn Donald 22/11/1630 parson of Pettie TD Inverness Commissary Court CC11/1/1 Click here for normal version <http://www.fifefhs.org/Records/newburghac.htm> <http://www.fifefhs.org/Records/newburghac.htm> <http://www.fifefhs.org/Records/newburghac.htm> <http://www.fifefhs.org/Records/newburghac.htm> http://www.fifefhs.org/Records/newburghac.htm McQUEEN, Ann, b c 1780, Dunfermline, Fife - <mailto:%20Carol-Martin%20Woolongong-NSW-Australia> "email Carol Martin details <http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/scot/Fife/ft/fife.contacts6MN.htm#Carol.Ma rtin .07.ABBF3M.28De97> McQUEEN Daniel m Ann Baillie b 1757; son John b 1770 Newburgh - James McQueen <mailto:jmcqC4th@aol.com> - details <http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/scot/Fife/ft/fife.contacts6Mc.htm#James.Mc Quee n.04Aug2005> McQUEEN, Isabella Russel b 1817, Flisk, Fife - Keith Clark <mailto:%20Keith-Clark%20Hallett-Cove-South-Australia> "email Keith Clark - details <http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/scot/Fife/ft/fife.contacts2D.htm#Keith.Cla rk.0 3.CCM.17.fe.98> - QUERY <http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/scot/Fife/ft/fife.queries1.html#McQUEEN.CL ARK. 17fe98> McQUEEN William m SYME Elizabeth 1830 Falkland, Fife - James McQueen <mailto:jmcqC4th@aol.com> - details <http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/scot/Fife/ft/fife.contacts6Mc.htm#James.Mc Quee n.04Aug2005> McQUEEN William; Farm Servant, Flisk, Fife, m Christian Coventry 1797, Newburgh, Fife. Children Agness McQueen 1806, Issobella Russell <mailto:%20Keith-Clark%20Hallett-Cove-South-Australia> "email Keith Clark details <http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/scot/Fife/ft/fife.contacts2D.htm#Keith.Cla rk.0 3.CCM.17.fe.98> - QUERY <http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/scot/Fife/ft/fife.queries1.html#McQUEEN.CL ARK. 17fe98> MacQueen; Killean Kilchenzie area; 1800-1864; Judith; judith@well-com.net.au <mailto:judith@well-com.net.au?Subject=Argyllshire%20Surname%20List> McQueen; Jura and Luing; 1775+; Louise; lasmith@skylinc.net <mailto:lasmith@skylinc.net?Subject=Argyllshire%20Surname%20List> MacQueen; Killarow,Bowmore; 1820; Joe; joe.russell@btinternet.com <mailto:joe.russell@btinternet.com?Subject=Argyllshire%20Surname%20List> McQueen; Jura; c1800 and all; Pat; mccabe@istar.ca <mailto:mccabe@istar.ca?Subject=Argyllshire%20Surname%20List> McQueen; Easdale Oban; c.1800+; Cathie; Clava44@aol.com <mailto:Clava44@aol.com?Subject=Argyllshire%20Surname%20List> McQueen; Any; 1800 +; Thelma; thawkes@ciaccess.com <mailto:thawkes@ciaccess.com?Subject=Argyllshire%20Surname%20List> McQueen; Islay; Pre 1850; Sue; genealgal2@execulink.com <mailto:genealgal2@execulink.com?Subject=Argyllshire%20Surname%20List> The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments: Shortcut to: http://members.aol.com/sloinne/Argyll/listmacLtoZ.htm I am presuming another part of Europe and would be very interested to find out where. You do realise that British means Scots, English, Irish or Welsh. I myself am a Scot and personally find it quite patronising to be called British. <http://presence.webmail.aol.com/IM/?sn=msbaldwin43&locale=en-us&pd=0> Sue -----Original Message----- From: ITS SALES <sales@its-limited.co.uk> To: Queen@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 9:20 am Subject: [QUEEN] The name Queen Hi Sue, I am fairly new to this list so please bear with me. I read your email with great interest. I find it fasinating that you have proof that the name QUEEN or MCQUEEN or MACQUEEN is not british I cannot wait to see your paperwork, which I presume is forthcoming to the list. Where did your CHARLES QUEEN and wife come from? I am presuming another part of Europe and would be very interested to find out where. You do realise that British means Scots, English, Irish or Welsh. I myself am a Scot and personally find it quite patronising to be called British. It is impossible for the Queen family to come from one human being. I understand why you have to look so much, I have to too. And found things I did not really want to know but that is history. No DNA or any other study will find out everything. I am a Queen through my mother and as far as I have gone back it is QUEEN from Ireland. Can you tell me if the native Americans were called queen as I just don't understand where the name has derived from. Sharon When replying to a digest post, quote only the specific text to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. 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