Skip, If you get this message and it pertains only to the first 12 markers, I would discount the message unless the person shares the Queen surname or a variant. If you go look at the YDNA matches for the first 12 markers, you will probably notice that there are lots of perfect matches with people who do not share your surname. You will also notice that by the time the 25 or 37 markers matches are shown, almost all of the non-shared surname people have dropped by the wayside. I would only put stock in the 12 marker test matches for only people who share the same or similar surname, or in those cases where there is a suspicion that for other reasons, a person with a different surname should match - which is the case with the Chauncey Poor descendants. So, 12 markers are a pretty good indicator when you have a perfect or almost perfect match and you share the same or similar surname that you share a common ancestor in the genealogical time frame. Otherwise, I would discount it. At the 25 or 37 marker level, if that same individual shows up and has a different surname but is still a close match, then you have a strong basis for investigating the relationship that it implies. At this stage in the Queen DNA study, the 12 marker test is really just a screening and classifying device, and for the relationships we are trying to uncover, it really is inadequate to answer the questions we are after. I would encourage all participants to be at the 25 marker level, if not the 37 - depending on the circumstances and knowledge of relationships in your lineage. Of course, I always go and take a look at the YDNA match page to see who is showing up, there may be other clues there that are worth investigating. Rolla http://webpages.charter.net/rlqueen/DNA/queenmarker.htm http://webpages.charter.net/rlqueen/DNA/queenmarker-x.htm http://www.familytreedna.com/public/queenDNA/ http://webpages.charter.net/rlqueen -------Original Message------- From: Skip Queen Date: 10/22/05 20:22:27 To: [email protected] Subject: [QUEEN] Question I received the following: "An exact match has been found between you and another person in the Family Tree DNA database. You and the other person match in all loci. If you share the same surname or variant, this means that there is a 99.9% likelihood that you share a common ancestor in a genealogical time frame. If you match another person without the same surname or variant, you still probably share a common ancestor, but this ancestor most likely lived in the time before surnames were adopted. The link below will take you to your Family Tree DNA Login. From there, click on the "Y-DNA Matches" tab to see a list of your matches. Newer matches will be at the top of the list. Additional emails will be sent to you as we find new matches between you and your "genetic cousins."" http://www.familytreedna.com/ftLogin.a Is this worth following up? I had the "short" DNA test run - is that enough to match someone with a 99.9% likeihood? -- Skip Queen Viruses? Spyware? Not me! I use Linux!! Linspire - The world's easiest desktop Linux! ==== QUEEN Mailing List ==== Visit my homepage: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegaleire/ QUEEN YDNA PROJECT http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=X96855&special=True http://www.ysearch.org/ ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.361 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/146 - Release Date: 10/21/2005