For some reason, I received this msg from Rolla, but not Queen-L with tag line to Rolla's updated chart, thus am forwarding to list. Please forgive if it's a duplicate. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rolla Queen" <rolla.queen@charter.net> To: "'O Eugene Queen'" <EQueen@lexcominc.net>; "'QResearchers'" <QUEEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 2:40 PM Subject: RE: [QUEEN] 9-4-1 Queen > Reports of my death are premature, Queen-L was heard to say! > > Don't know about the rest of you, but I have been busy. I have also got a > stack of research to go through, and now re-go through based on the > results > that just came back, and are now posted on the webpage. > > I thought I had sent a message to this effect, but I realize now that it > did > not go to the entire list. There probably has been a lot of off-list > discussion that should be done on the list so that everyone can weigh in - > so it is important to realize when you hit the reply button, that you > probably need to hit the Reply-All button to make sure that the Queen-L > list > sees the response. > > Anyway, new results are posted on the webspreadsheet. The results now > allow > us to change the status of Group 2 (Samuel Queen) to CONFIRMED - at least > at > the 12 marker level - based on a perfect 12 marker match. This match for > Group 2 has implications for the research into the origins of Francis > Queen > (Group 3), since that group (me) has been chasing some old and new > theories > that kept open the possibility that our line may have tied back into the > Samuel Queen line - but the tie has always been problematic since there is > another DNA participant whose ancestry also tied into that line, and our > DNA > did not match. Consequently, the results for the current participant were > sure to take one or the other of us in some new directions. As it stands, > looks like Old Francis is still looking to break that brick wall. > > However, we also know that results at the 12 marker level can be very > fickle, so I strongly encourage the two DNA participants on the Group 2 > line > to upgrade to the 37 marker test. It will prove confirming and > informational > for both participant's research. > > I will let Gene and other's more knowledgeable about these lines weigh in, > as I was only beginning to explore these lines as a result of following > new > theories on Francis Queen's origins. > > For those curious, there has been a theory floating around for a while, > and > there is a lot of circumstantial evidence to support it, that Francis > Queen > may have been descended from the Washington/Maryland Queens, and for the > most part some of the descendants of that line are chronicled well in the > genealogies of Charles Jerningham Queen. The theory was given some weight > in > the sense that it turns out that there was a large migration of > Marylanders > in the latter half of the 1700s that settled specifically in the Brushy > Mountain area of North Carolina (where Francis Queen is first found in > 1778) > and, indeed, many of the other lines making up my ancestry can be traced. > > With the current DNA results, it appears that Francis can make no claim to > direct ancestry from the Samuel Queen line. It is possible that Francis > Queen may have come from that area and perhaps heritage, but there can be > almost no doubt now that a male Queen from that line is responsible for > our > DNA. We can pilfer through all the possibilities, but other than the > circumstantial connection to the Marylanders and the Brushy Mountains, we > have no evidence to prove or make any specific claims. We are back at > square > one, in some ways. So, we are keeping all avenues of research open, but > the > DNA question itself seems to be resolved. > > I encourage the two participants in Group 2 to link up and help each > other. > > Now I will point out that I am still waiting for direct male lineage > information from several DNA participants to place on the expanded > webpage. > I believe that providing this information will open up areas in research > and > help make sense of the DNA. > > So once again, I ask for all participants, regardless of Group or number > of > matches to send along that information. > > Gene is right, when you can't help yourself, you may be sitting on some > nice > tidbit that may help someone else. The list provides that work space to > toss > out ideas and get them shot down! Everyone should be a moving target - > only > way that the strong ideas survive and get passed on to the next > generation! > > Rolla