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    1. [QUEEN] Re: DNA studies
    2. Gloria
    3. Hello Skip, Thanks for responding. I did not expect anyone to do so since I have not been able to make a connection to anyone even after following the old list for many years. Here is a list of names associated with both my brick wall William Queen (father of Wm Queen born 1841) and North Carolina. Some of the names came from the professional genealogist (aka pro gen) in response to her client, my father's uncle Eli Queen. Others came from uncle Eli's notes... Lucy BOY (or BAY), Montgomery Queen of NYC, a Captain Douglas, and the surname SANDIFER. A widow lady named Mrs. Thomas Clingman Queen wrote to uncle Eli (I assume back in the '50s) implying that the letter was coming as a result of contact by his pro gen and saying that her husband was definitely related to his Queens. The names she listed in that letter are&hellip; William Queen 1715-1802 NC, William Lewis Queen 1749 VA &ndash; 1836 NC (Rev War soldier), William Lewis Queen, Jr. born 1774 GA and died in NC, James Smith Queen born 1834 NC and died in NC and, one more... William Haynes Queen born 1847 NC and died 1907 NC. No indication was given as to on what she based this possible connection. The pro gen was convinced our Queens were descended from a Charles Queen, Jr. apparent progenitor of the Gnatty Creek Queens and first generation American. His parents came here from England and while here Charles Jr. was born and then they all returned to England. When of age Charles Jr. came back (c. 1770) and settled on &ldquo;the old homestead on Gnatty Creek&rdquo;. The pro gen was, however, unable to locate supporting documentation during the time she had been hired and paid and I have seen nothing to indicate Eli hired her for an extended period of time. She sent him photocopy of a few pages from the Stephen Post Queen book. They show the part about where Charles came from. Not too many years ago I attained a copy of said book that had been scanned to disk and made available to public by a gentleman named George W. Rupp, whose mother was a Queen. In it I have never found any solid yea or nay as to a connection with my Queens. Hope this helps you. Of course I am eager to break down my brick wall. The DNA results of my cousin Roger were at one time on a spreadsheet that my memory wants to say was administered by Rolla for &ldquo;this&rdquo; mailing list. Since that mailing list was destroyed, broken down, whatever Rootsweb did, and this one is a restructured list I am assuming that the DNA info was lost. I cannot recall of which group those results have Roger and me in. I downloaded it and have it somewhere but no clue as to where to start looking for it. Looks like everyone will have to start all over again. As daunting as that sounds, though, I can see it being very helpful to everyone because most of us have probably come up with more info that better directs us on the list. In recent years I have been suspecting that my brick wall might not have been of the male Queen bloodline after all. That maybe he was illegitimate and his mother was a Queen, or some such scenario. Anyway, sorry this is so long. Again, thanks.Gloria Queen b: 1948 so I&rsquo;m no spring chicken, and would sure like to get the mystery solved in my lifetime. :o) ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Skip Queen <skipqueen@gmail.com> To: queen@rootsweb.com Subject: [QUEEN] Re: DNA studies Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2018 19:18:09 -0400 Do you know which person in the Gnatty Creek group he traces to? Skip Queen On Sat, Sep 1, 2018, 02:23 Gloria <gloriah4@juno.com> wrote: > RollaHas indeed been a long time since seeing action. I had a male first > cousin (Roger) take the Y-DNA 111 marker at FTDNA. I am the researcher for > my line of Queens. My father, and our grandfather, great grandfather, and > great-great grandfather were all named William H Queen. I have the line > traced back to Brooklyn NY in 1841 when my great grand was born. Family > story was that his father, my great-great grand, was from NC (possibly SC). > Back in the early 1950's my uncle hired a pro genealogist who determined > that he might have been of the Gnatty Creek line. He is my brick wall so I > know very little about him. Don't know how much help I can be to anyone, > but you are welcome to my cousin's test results and whatever other info I > have. I don't know how to interpret them. Long time ago Roger's test result > was put on a spreadsheet but was so long ago all info was on a different > computer and I can't recall much about it. Sure good to see the List come > alive again. Gloria Queen > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: Rolla Queen <rq77tarheel@gmail.com> > To: Queen@rootsweb.com > Subject: [QUEEN] DNA studies > Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2018 20:03:19 -0700 > > Since it has been a while that there has been any discussion, I am > wondering how many list members have gone on to do atDNA testing at any of > the testing companies? > > Rolla > > _______________________________________________ > When replying to a digest post, quote only the specific text to which you > are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. 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    09/02/2018 08:34:48
    1. [QUEEN] Re: DNA studies
    2. Rolla Queen
    3. Hi Gloria, That is a lot to sort through - and there seems to be some mixing of apples and oranges from different Queen branches - so I suspect the professional genealogist fell into some of the same traps as we have - trying to merge the various Queen lineages creating artificial connections. Have you or other family done an autosomal DNA test? I would say this about your summary. You stated that a "widow lady named Mrs. Thomas Clingman Queen wrote to uncle Eli (I assume back in the '50s) implying that the letter was coming as a result of contact by his pro gen and saying that her husband was definitely related to his Queens." I am not sure about Thomas Clingman Queen, but there is certainly at least one Thomas Clingman Anderson that are connected to my Queen lines. It is such an unusual name, that there may be some merit in exploring further. Rolla. On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 7:36 PM Gloria <gloriah4@juno.com> wrote: > Hello Skip, Thanks for responding. I did not expect anyone to do so since > I have not been able to make a connection to anyone even after following > the old list for many years. Here is a list of names associated with both > my brick wall William Queen (father of Wm Queen born 1841) and North > Carolina. Some of the names came from the professional genealogist (aka pro > gen) in response to her client, my father's uncle Eli Queen. Others came > from uncle Eli's notes... Lucy BOY (or BAY), Montgomery Queen of NYC, a > Captain Douglas, and the surname SANDIFER. A widow lady named Mrs. Thomas > Clingman Queen wrote to uncle Eli (I assume back in the '50s) implying that > the letter was coming as a result of contact by his pro gen and saying that > her husband was definitely related to his Queens. The names she listed in > that letter are&hellip; William Queen 1715-1802 NC, William Lewis Queen > 1749 VA &ndash; 1836 NC (Rev War soldier), William Lewis Queen, Jr. born > 1774 GA and died in NC, James Smith Quee > n born 1834 NC and died in NC and, one more... William Haynes Queen born > 1847 NC and died 1907 NC. No indication was given as to on what she based > this possible connection. The pro gen was convinced our Queens were > descended from a Charles Queen, Jr. apparent progenitor of the Gnatty Creek > Queens and first generation American. His parents came here from England > and while here Charles Jr. was born and then they all returned to England. > When of age Charles Jr. came back (c. 1770) and settled on &ldquo;the old > homestead on Gnatty Creek&rdquo;. The pro gen was, however, unable to > locate supporting documentation during the time she had been hired and paid > and I have seen nothing to indicate Eli hired her for an extended period of > time. She sent him photocopy of a few pages from the Stephen Post Queen > book. They show the part about where Charles came from. Not too many years > ago I attained a copy of said book that had been scanned to disk and made > available to public by a gentleman named > George W. Rupp, whose mother was a Queen. In it I have never found any > solid yea or nay as to a connection with my Queens. Hope this helps you. Of > course I am eager to break down my brick wall. The DNA results of my cousin > Roger were at one time on a spreadsheet that my memory wants to say was > administered by Rolla for &ldquo;this&rdquo; mailing list. Since that > mailing list was destroyed, broken down, whatever Rootsweb did, and this > one is a restructured list I am assuming that the DNA info was lost. I > cannot recall of which group those results have Roger and me in. I > downloaded it and have it somewhere but no clue as to where to start > looking for it. Looks like everyone will have to start all over again. As > daunting as that sounds, though, I can see it being very helpful to > everyone because most of us have probably come up with more info that > better directs us on the list. In recent years I have been suspecting that > my brick wall might not have been of the male Queen bloodline af > ter all. That maybe he was illegitimate and his mother was a Queen, or > some such scenario. Anyway, sorry this is so long. Again, thanks.Gloria > Queen b: 1948 so I&rsquo;m no spring chicken, and would sure like to get > the mystery solved in my lifetime. :o) > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: Skip Queen <skipqueen@gmail.com> > To: queen@rootsweb.com > Subject: [QUEEN] Re: DNA studies > Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2018 19:18:09 -0400 > > Do you know which person in the Gnatty > Creek group he traces to? > Skip Queen > > On Sat, Sep 1, 2018, 02:23 Gloria <gloriah4@juno.com> wrote: > > > RollaHas indeed been a long time since seeing action. I had a male first > > cousin (Roger) take the Y-DNA 111 marker at FTDNA. I am the researcher > for > > my line of Queens. My father, and our grandfather, great grandfather, and > > great-great grandfather were all named William H Queen. I have the line > > traced back to Brooklyn NY in 1841 when my great grand was born. Family > > story was that his father, my great-great grand, was from NC (possibly > SC). > > Back in the early 1950's my uncle hired a pro genealogist who determined > > that he might have been of the Gnatty Creek line. He is my brick wall so > I > > know very little about him. Don't know how much help I can be to anyone, > > but you are welcome to my cousin's test results and whatever other info I > > have. I don't know how to interpret them. Long time ago Roger's test > result > > was put on a spreadsheet but was so long ago all info was on a different > > computer and I can't recall much about it. Sure good to see the List come > > alive again. Gloria Queen > > > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > > From: Rolla Queen <rq77tarheel@gmail.com> > > To: Queen@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [QUEEN] DNA studies > > Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2018 20:03:19 -0700 > > > > Since it has been a while that there has been any discussion, I am > > wondering how many list members have gone on to do atDNA testing at any > of > > the testing companies? > > > > Rolla > > > > _______________________________________________ > > When replying to a digest post, quote only the specific text to which you > > are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. 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    09/02/2018 09:07:40
    1. [QUEEN] Re: DNA studies
    2. Rolla Queen
    3. Gloria I stand corrected. Not such an unusual name. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wikipedia.org_wiki_Thomas-5FLanier-5FClingman&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=veMNSM8NHyaH8avSZqD699JJycRwX3NhPwzCEUoW2p8&m=jeHz0dwwBEIbAC4Zg-c921kOR2kdBA-MYMHu7srCnL8&s=384acutuqkwAUdmyYlWf8Q2YFde0ssoywbZlSjQ_ZtA&e= I saw on ancestry that there is a Thomas Clingman Queen in the Haywood County area. Not my Queens, though. I think these would be Old William descendants. Rolla On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 7:36 PM Gloria <gloriah4@juno.com> wrote: > Hello Skip, Thanks for responding. I did not expect anyone to do so since > I have not been able to make a connection to anyone even after following > the old list for many years. Here is a list of names associated with both > my brick wall William Queen (father of Wm Queen born 1841) and North > Carolina. Some of the names came from the professional genealogist (aka pro > gen) in response to her client, my father's uncle Eli Queen. Others came > from uncle Eli's notes... Lucy BOY (or BAY), Montgomery Queen of NYC, a > Captain Douglas, and the surname SANDIFER. A widow lady named Mrs. Thomas > Clingman Queen wrote to uncle Eli (I assume back in the '50s) implying that > the letter was coming as a result of contact by his pro gen and saying that > her husband was definitely related to his Queens. The names she listed in > that letter are&hellip; William Queen 1715-1802 NC, William Lewis Queen > 1749 VA &ndash; 1836 NC (Rev War soldier), William Lewis Queen, Jr. born > 1774 GA and died in NC, James Smith Quee > n born 1834 NC and died in NC and, one more... William Haynes Queen born > 1847 NC and died 1907 NC. No indication was given as to on what she based > this possible connection. The pro gen was convinced our Queens were > descended from a Charles Queen, Jr. apparent progenitor of the Gnatty Creek > Queens and first generation American. His parents came here from England > and while here Charles Jr. was born and then they all returned to England. > When of age Charles Jr. came back (c. 1770) and settled on &ldquo;the old > homestead on Gnatty Creek&rdquo;. The pro gen was, however, unable to > locate supporting documentation during the time she had been hired and paid > and I have seen nothing to indicate Eli hired her for an extended period of > time. She sent him photocopy of a few pages from the Stephen Post Queen > book. They show the part about where Charles came from. Not too many years > ago I attained a copy of said book that had been scanned to disk and made > available to public by a gentleman named > George W. Rupp, whose mother was a Queen. In it I have never found any > solid yea or nay as to a connection with my Queens. Hope this helps you. Of > course I am eager to break down my brick wall. The DNA results of my cousin > Roger were at one time on a spreadsheet that my memory wants to say was > administered by Rolla for &ldquo;this&rdquo; mailing list. Since that > mailing list was destroyed, broken down, whatever Rootsweb did, and this > one is a restructured list I am assuming that the DNA info was lost. I > cannot recall of which group those results have Roger and me in. I > downloaded it and have it somewhere but no clue as to where to start > looking for it. Looks like everyone will have to start all over again. As > daunting as that sounds, though, I can see it being very helpful to > everyone because most of us have probably come up with more info that > better directs us on the list. In recent years I have been suspecting that > my brick wall might not have been of the male Queen bloodline af > ter all. That maybe he was illegitimate and his mother was a Queen, or > some such scenario. Anyway, sorry this is so long. Again, thanks.Gloria > Queen b: 1948 so I&rsquo;m no spring chicken, and would sure like to get > the mystery solved in my lifetime. :o) > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: Skip Queen <skipqueen@gmail.com> > To: queen@rootsweb.com > Subject: [QUEEN] Re: DNA studies > Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2018 19:18:09 -0400 > > Do you know which person in the Gnatty > Creek group he traces to? > Skip Queen > > On Sat, Sep 1, 2018, 02:23 Gloria <gloriah4@juno.com> wrote: > > > RollaHas indeed been a long time since seeing action. I had a male first > > cousin (Roger) take the Y-DNA 111 marker at FTDNA. I am the researcher > for > > my line of Queens. My father, and our grandfather, great grandfather, and > > great-great grandfather were all named William H Queen. I have the line > > traced back to Brooklyn NY in 1841 when my great grand was born. Family > > story was that his father, my great-great grand, was from NC (possibly > SC). > > Back in the early 1950's my uncle hired a pro genealogist who determined > > that he might have been of the Gnatty Creek line. He is my brick wall so > I > > know very little about him. Don't know how much help I can be to anyone, > > but you are welcome to my cousin's test results and whatever other info I > > have. I don't know how to interpret them. Long time ago Roger's test > result > > was put on a spreadsheet but was so long ago all info was on a different > > computer and I can't recall much about it. Sure good to see the List come > > alive again. Gloria Queen > > > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > > From: Rolla Queen <rq77tarheel@gmail.com> > > To: Queen@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [QUEEN] DNA studies > > Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2018 20:03:19 -0700 > > > > Since it has been a while that there has been any discussion, I am > > wondering how many list members have gone on to do atDNA testing at any > of > > the testing companies? > > > > Rolla > > > > _______________________________________________ > > When replying to a digest post, quote only the specific text to which you > > are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. 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