This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: futurrn Surnames: Queen Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.queen/474.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hey there, I am very new to this site, but My dad was C.B. Queen, and he had a brother named Jack, but I dont know where he is or lived or his birth date...just figured if he was my uncle, I could find out more for you..... I am working on finding all my dads family that are alive and researching all of those that aren't. My dad's dads' name was John Avery Queen and his Mothers name was Laura Jane Phillips. Daddy said they grew up in Gastonia, and My dad was born in 1930. hope you find what you want. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

My sentiments exactly. Too often Ancestry asks you to "contribute" to their web sites, then they turn around and sell the data. -----Original Message----- From: queen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:queen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lee Lamar Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 10:55 AM To: 'Scott D Kendall'; Queen@rootsweb.com; mcguinn@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [QUEEN] Ancestry.com Partners with Sorenson Genomics RE:McQueen DNA Study Scott, I take a dim view when it comes to Ancestry.com. It seems to me they are in it simply for the money. Does anyone else feel as I do. Lee L. -----Original Message----- From: queen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:queen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Scott D Kendall Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 9:58 AM To: Queen@rootsweb.com; mcguinn@rootsweb.com Subject: [QUEEN] Ancestry.com Partners with Sorenson Genomics RE: McQueen DNA Study Hello Everyone, For those of you who transferred your results to the McQueen DNA Study. I just received this email from the laboratory conducting our DNA study. For those of you participating in the DNA study, I would like to know your opinion on the new partnership with Ancestry.com and the inclusion of our study. At this time, I do not have a recommendation. I would like to contact Relative Genetics to ask more questions and have other concerns addressed. Please post to the list or email me privately at skendall@kc.rr.com. Thanks Scott Dear Relative Genetics Valued Customer, Relative Genetics is pleased to announce an exciting new partnership with Ancestry.com, by way of our parent company, Sorenson Genomics. This new partnership will combine Ancestry.com's unrivaled collection of online family trees and historical documents with Sorenson Genomics' precision ancestral DNA testing. The powerful combination of these three major pillars of family history research - historical records, DNA and family trees - will revolutionize family history and add meaningful tools to assist you in your family history research. Ancestry.com currently has more than 14 million users and the world's largest collection of online family trees. In the coming months, Ancestry.com will release technology that captures DNA test results and integrates them with the historical documents already in their online family trees. This integration paired with the ability to collaborate with the Ancestry.com community gives you the ability to add branches to your family tree in one vast, ever-expanding online location. DNA testing and select genetic genealogy services formerly provided by Relative Genetics will soon be offered exclusively through Ancestry.com. At that time, your Relative Genetics information will migrate to Ancestry.com. Before this happens, you will receive an e-mail with more details regarding this transition. We are excited about the unprecedented possibilities this combination of historical records, DNA and family trees will provide for your family history research. For more information about the benefits of this exclusive partnership and to view our FAQs, please visit Relative Genetics News. Should you have any further questions, please e-mail Relative Genetics at info@relativegenetics.com or contact a member of the Relative Genetics customer support team at 1-800-956-9362. If you would like to completely exclude your DNA test results, contact information and surname project data from transferring to Ancestry.com, please contact Relative Genetics prior to July 15, 2007. 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Scott, I take a dim view when it comes to Ancestry.com. It seems to me they are in it simply for the money. Does anyone else feel as I do. Lee L. -----Original Message----- From: queen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:queen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Scott D Kendall Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 9:58 AM To: Queen@rootsweb.com; mcguinn@rootsweb.com Subject: [QUEEN] Ancestry.com Partners with Sorenson Genomics RE: McQueen DNA Study Hello Everyone, For those of you who transferred your results to the McQueen DNA Study. I just received this email from the laboratory conducting our DNA study. For those of you participating in the DNA study, I would like to know your opinion on the new partnership with Ancestry.com and the inclusion of our study. At this time, I do not have a recommendation. I would like to contact Relative Genetics to ask more questions and have other concerns addressed. Please post to the list or email me privately at skendall@kc.rr.com. Thanks Scott Dear Relative Genetics Valued Customer, Relative Genetics is pleased to announce an exciting new partnership with Ancestry.com, by way of our parent company, Sorenson Genomics. This new partnership will combine Ancestry.com's unrivaled collection of online family trees and historical documents with Sorenson Genomics' precision ancestral DNA testing. The powerful combination of these three major pillars of family history research - historical records, DNA and family trees - will revolutionize family history and add meaningful tools to assist you in your family history research. Ancestry.com currently has more than 14 million users and the world's largest collection of online family trees. In the coming months, Ancestry.com will release technology that captures DNA test results and integrates them with the historical documents already in their online family trees. This integration paired with the ability to collaborate with the Ancestry.com community gives you the ability to add branches to your family tree in one vast, ever-expanding online location. DNA testing and select genetic genealogy services formerly provided by Relative Genetics will soon be offered exclusively through Ancestry.com. At that time, your Relative Genetics information will migrate to Ancestry.com. Before this happens, you will receive an e-mail with more details regarding this transition. We are excited about the unprecedented possibilities this combination of historical records, DNA and family trees will provide for your family history research. For more information about the benefits of this exclusive partnership and to view our FAQs, please visit Relative Genetics News. Should you have any further questions, please e-mail Relative Genetics at info@relativegenetics.com or contact a member of the Relative Genetics customer support team at 1-800-956-9362. If you would like to completely exclude your DNA test results, contact information and surname project data from transferring to Ancestry.com, please contact Relative Genetics prior to July 15, 2007. Oh behalf of Relative Genetics, it has been our sincere pleasure to work with you, and we thank you for your support.  Best regards, The Relative Genetics Team When replying to a digest post, quote only the specific text to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. TO VIEW PREVIOUS EMAILS BY SUBJECT, GO TO THE THREADED ARCHIVES AT http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/listowners TO VIEW PREVIOUS EMAILS BY DATES AND SUBJECT GO TO THE SEARCHABLE ARCHIVES AT http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/listowners > http://webpages.charter.net/rlqueen/DNA/queenmarker.htm > > http://www.familytreedna.com/public/queenDNA/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Everyone, For those of you who transferred your results to the McQueen DNA Study. I just received this email from the laboratory conducting our DNA study. For those of you participating in the DNA study, I would like to know your opinion on the new partnership with Ancestry.com and the inclusion of our study. At this time, I do not have a recommendation. I would like to contact Relative Genetics to ask more questions and have other concerns addressed. Please post to the list or email me privately at skendall@kc.rr.com. Thanks Scott Dear Relative Genetics Valued Customer, Relative Genetics is pleased to announce an exciting new partnership with Ancestry.com, by way of our parent company, Sorenson Genomics. This new partnership will combine Ancestry.com's unrivaled collection of online family trees and historical documents with Sorenson Genomics' precision ancestral DNA testing. The powerful combination of these three major pillars of family history research - historical records, DNA and family trees - will revolutionize family history and add meaningful tools to assist you in your family history research. Ancestry.com currently has more than 14 million users and the world's largest collection of online family trees. In the coming months, Ancestry.com will release technology that captures DNA test results and integrates them with the historical documents already in their online family trees. This integration paired with the ability to collaborate with the Ancestry.com community gives you the ability to add branches to your family tree in one vast, ever-expanding online location. DNA testing and select genetic genealogy services formerly provided by Relative Genetics will soon be offered exclusively through Ancestry.com. At that time, your Relative Genetics information will migrate to Ancestry.com. Before this happens, you will receive an e-mail with more details regarding this transition. We are excited about the unprecedented possibilities this combination of historical records, DNA and family trees will provide for your family history research. For more information about the benefits of this exclusive partnership and to view our FAQs, please visit Relative Genetics News. Should you have any further questions, please e-mail Relative Genetics at info@relativegenetics.com or contact a member of the Relative Genetics customer support team at 1-800-956-9362. If you would like to completely exclude your DNA test results, contact information and surname project data from transferring to Ancestry.com, please contact Relative Genetics prior to July 15, 2007. Oh behalf of Relative Genetics, it has been our sincere pleasure to work with you, and we thank you for your support.  Best regards, The Relative Genetics Team

Walker, Homer A. Historical court records of Washington, District of columbia Washington, D. C.: unknown, 1955, 1442 pgs. Pg 726 Marriage Records of Washington D.C. Eleanor M. to Richard T. Queen 11-4-1816

sorry, but I hit send prematurely. Anonymous Author Washington, city and capital Washington, D.C.: G.P.O., 1937, 1167 pgs. Pg 194-195 Written history of the Roman Catholic Church in this locality begins with the ministry of Father John Carroll, later first bishop of the Diocese of Baltimore, considered the founder of the Catholic Church in America. After the Revolution, the devoted parishioners to whom he had ministered at a tiny chapel at his mother's home in Forest Glen, established for him the Church of St. John' the Evangelist at Rock Creek, abour one-half mile from his family home. Anothershrine of Colonial days was Queen's Chapel in Langdon, D.C., bequeathed to Bishop Carroll by Richard Queen. Out of this latter chapel developed the present Church of St. Francis De Sales, located at Twenty-ninth Street and Rhode Island Avenue NE.

R. S. Bassler Washington, past and present: a history New York: Lewis Historical Pub. Co., 1932, 2818 pgs. pg. 538 Although the lands in and around Washington were granted to the various proprietors about 1665, it was not until about sixty years thereafter that the population of the region was large enough to warrant the formation of churches. Land was donated for Rock Creek Church in 1720, and there was sufficient ground around the church for the cemetery, which has received the dead for over two hundred years. Richard Queen also provided land for a Roman Catholic chapel near Langdon, and burials were no doubt made thereat in due time. Bryan, W. B. A history of the national capital: from its formation through the period of the adoption or the Organic Act New York: Macmillan, 1916, 1421 pgs. pg 84 The Jesuits continued their missionary labors in Maryland, and among other centres had an establishment at Port Tobacco, some thrity miles south of Washington, and it is supposed that priests from that place visited the Catholic families in and about the District and in private houses performed the offices of the church. The house of Ann Young, and when afterwards occupied by her son, Notley Young, on G Street, S. W., according to tradition was often the scene of religious services, as was that of Richard Queen, erected about 1722, in the northeastern section of the District, where Langdon is situated and where afterwards Queen's Chapel was built.

Any old-timers on the list ever go out to the barn and move rectangular hay bales around to make tunnels/caves to play in as a kid? As a teenager or adult, any listmate ever pick the bales of hay or straw from the ground and load them onto a truck or wagon? Good. Now, the real question...for a reason...what were the approximate dimensions of the rectangular bales? If you have hay in the barn, okay to go measure some bales then answer the question. Yes, I preferred to work in the wheat field loading wheat straw bales rather than the hay field loading hay bales. Any idea why? Thanks, Gene

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jameshardin57 Surnames: Queen Smith Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.queen/934.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looked at the US Census for Bubcombe County 1900-1930, There are several Heads of Household in Buncombe County in this period named "William Smith." None of them have a wife named "Elmeda." (Three of the Heads of Household were in Black Mountain in 1900, 1910 & 1930 with wives Nannie(1900, 1910), Ellen (1910)& Elvina (1930)). If you have additional information on William & Elmeda (Queen) Smith, please post it, Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Andrew Roy History of lower Scioto Valley, Ohio: together with sketches of its cities, villages and townships, educational, religious, civil, military, and political history, portraits of prominent persons, and biographies of representative citizens. Chicago: Inter-state Pub. Co., 1884, 911 pgs. Pg. 379 Amaziah Bennet, son of Benjamin and Mary Bennett, was born Aug. 27, 1823, in Scioto County, Ohio, where he was reared and educated in the common schools. He hasn of farmer, and now has 111 acres of well-improved land, which is underlaid with a vein of iron ore from two to six feet thick, of the best quality yet found in the county. March 5, 1846, Mr. Bennett married Sarah, daughter of William Queen. To them have been born eight children—Emily, born Aug. 10, 1848; Samuel Aug. 14, 1850; Cyrus, Aug 12, 1852; William Tracy, Oct. 27, 1854; Alice Nov. 9, 1856; Jacob, April 1, 1860; John Q., March 4, 1863; Warren R., Aug. 7, 1866

This Wm. Queen was b. abt 1793 in Burke Co. NC: Wells, Emma Middleton, The history of Roane County, Tennessee, 1801-1870 Chattanooga, Tenn.: Printed by the Lookout Pub. Co., 1927, 318 pgs. Pg. 33 THE HISTORY OF ROANED COUNTY WAR OF 1812 It was an eventful day, when the young Lieut. Uriah Allison marched through the town of Kingston with his fifers and drummer boy. He had been appointed 2nd Lieut. Of the 8th U.S. Inf. March 15, 1812, had reported at Knoxville by an order signed by Capt. John A. Rogers and had been instructed by Edmund P. Gaines, Lt. Col., U.S. Infty., to make all necessary provisions for recruits. The men and boys gathered about the fifers and drummer in front of the Court House, while the women and children watched in the background with excitement. Bright new U.S. dollars lay upon the head of the drum, every man who stepped up and took a dollar became a volunteer in the War of 1812. (Among the list of recruits was:) William Queen age 19, 5 ft. 10 in. born Burk Co. N.C. and John Henderson age 19, 5 ft. 9 in. born in Burk Co. N. C. They were each paid $16 per month. They enlisted on July 24, 1812.

Found this record today. Hope this is new to some of you all. Newman, Harry Wright Charles County gentry: a genealogical history of six emigrants, Thomas Dent, John Dent, Richard Edelen, John Hanson. George Newman, Humphrey Warren, all scions of armorial families of old England who settled in Charles County, Maryland, and their descendants showing migrations to the South and West Washington D.C.: The author, 1940, 335 pgs. Pg. 144 His (Richard Edelen? previous page not scanned legibly) will was dated June 26, 1772, and admitted to probate in Charles County on October 13, 1775, by oaths of Jezreel Penn, Joseph Shaw, and Thomas Evans. … The will was exhibited in court by his widow and executrix on October 13, 1775, with Benjamin Jameson and William Leigh as her bondsmen. She died within a short time, consequently the administration of the estate was granted to the sureties. They executed a bond on January 2, 1777, when Thomas Semmes and Thomas Jameson became sureties. The will of Catherine Edelen, the widow, was proved in Princes Georges County on June 12, 1776. She devised her son Henry “New Design”, but in the event that he died without Isssue then to her daughters Teresa and then to Alcey. Sarah received “Pinner”. John Digges, Widow Martindale, and Widow Buchanan were remembered with minor bequests. The residue of the estate was bequeathed to her daughters—Teresa, Alcey, and Sarah—with “brother” Benjamin Jameson as their guardian. The executors so named were Benjamin Jameson and Walter Pye. Pg. 145 Letters of administration were issued on May 8 1779, to Benjamin Jameson, with his bond fixed at £3000 by William Queen and Henry Joshua Jameson. Walter Pye, the other executor, refused to act. The inventory was returned on March 14, 1780, with William Queen and Margaret Matthews signing as next of kin. The inventory of the personal estate of Joseph Edelen was returned on June 3, 1777, by Benjamin Jameson and William Queen as administrators d.b.n The appraisement was €1580/1/6, and was agreed to by Bennet Neale and Edward Edelen who signed as the next of kin, and by Thomas Smoot, the Youngest, and Henry Barnes as the greatest creditors. ……….(further down page) The finals accounts on the estate of Joseph Edelen were rendered on November 24, 1778, and June 4, 1770, by Benjamin Jameson and William Queen as the executors and showed a balance of £2338/5/4 to be distributed according to the will. Pg. 146 Samuel Edelen, also a bachelor, died testate in 1778. He devised his sisters Teresa, Sally, and Alicy the use and profits from the lands bought by their father from Thomas Smoot and Thomas Wheeler. The residue of the estate was to be divided among his brother Joseph and three sisters. The inventory was recorded on November 23, 1779, and appraised at £169/16/--. Walter Jameson was the executor, and William Queen and Benjamin Jameson signed as the kinsmen.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: redrun1 Surnames: Queen, Smith Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.queen/934/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm looking for information on Elmeda Queen 18??-1929 married William Smith and had 10 children. She is burried at Black Mountain, NC. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Greetings all, I have been advised that there is, indeed, an old stone that is inscribed "James C. Queen born 1805 and died 1885...also on the stone it reads James Father of Moses". This link of Moses J. Queen back to James C. Queen certainly appears to be "cast in stone". Now if we can just find the proof from James C. to "old Moses". Work is progressing to obtain YDNA samples to "push" the 18 mutation as far up this tree as possible. Rolla failed to convince me earlier that the 18s on the one "Reuben" sample and the one "old Moses" sample could realistically be anything but a random mutation. But, after pondering the possibilities, it seems that we should try harder with YDNA on these 18s. Rolla may very well be right on the money. So, I'm trying to shake the bushes without coming across as offensive or challenging - difficult task for me. Apologies are certainly offered as I screw up in the search for answers. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: "O Eugene Queen" <EQueen@lexcominc.net> To: "QResearchers" <QUEEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 9:11 PM Subject: [QUEEN] Pleasant Grove Cemetery, Union Co. GA > Anyone live near Blairsville, Ga who could do a bit of cemetery > investigation? > > There is a relatively new stone there that reads "James Father of Mose > Queen". See link below. > > Link: > > http://www.cemeterysurveysinc.com/?p=134167 > > Since Moses J. Queen was born in 1828 and died in 1893 it's apparent that > this stone was not erected in 1893 at the death of Mose. We believe that > James died about 1885. > > What I'm looking for is an OLD stone and the inscription from that stone - > as well as any surrounding Queen stones. > > I understand that the Pleasant Grove Baptist Cemetery is on Old 76 Blue > Ridge Hwy between Blairsville and Blue Ridge, GA. > > Thanks, > > Gene > When replying to a digest post, quote only the specific text to which you > are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, > remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the > message subject to which you are replying. > > > TO VIEW PREVIOUS EMAILS BY SUBJECT, GO TO THE THREADED ARCHIVES AT > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/listowners > > TO VIEW PREVIOUS EMAILS BY DATES AND SUBJECT GO TO THE SEARCHABLE ARCHIVES > AT http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/listowners > >> http://webpages.charter.net/rlqueen/DNA/queenmarker.htm >> >> http://www.familytreedna.com/public/queenDNA/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > QUEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Gene, I concur that the information referenced in your message is accurate to the best of my knowledge. Of course, my purported beliefs concerning this subject is a matter of some debate depending on the differing levels of proof required to claim an established relationship in some circles. ----- Original Message ----- From: "O. Eugene Queen" <EQueen@lexcominc.net> To: "QResearchers" <QUEEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 6:27 PM Subject: [QUEEN] Moses and Charlton Queen > Come in, Charlton. > > Seeking confirmation or denial that your James William Queen (1855) was a > son of James Queen (1835 Burke) who was a son of James C. Queen (1805) > purported son of Moses of 1770-80). > > Thanks, > > Gene > When replying to a digest post, quote only the specific text to which you > are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, > remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the > message subject to which you are replying. > > > TO VIEW PREVIOUS EMAILS BY SUBJECT, GO TO THE THREADED ARCHIVES AT > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/listowners > > TO VIEW PREVIOUS EMAILS BY DATES AND SUBJECT GO TO THE SEARCHABLE ARCHIVES > AT http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/listowners > >> http://webpages.charter.net/rlqueen/DNA/queenmarker.htm >> >> http://www.familytreedna.com/public/queenDNA/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > QUEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Anyone live near Blairsville, Ga who could do a bit of cemetery investigation? There is a relatively new stone there that reads "James Father of Mose Queen". See link below. Link: http://www.cemeterysurveysinc.com/?p=134167 Since Moses J. Queen was born in 1828 and died in 1893 it's apparent that this stone was not erected in 1893 at the death of Mose. We believe that James died about 1885. What I'm looking for is an OLD stone and the inscription from that stone - as well as any surrounding Queen stones. I understand that the Pleasant Grove Baptist Cemetery is on Old 76 Blue Ridge Hwy between Blairsville and Blue Ridge, GA. Thanks, Gene

Come in, Charlton. Seeking confirmation or denial that your James William Queen (1855) was a son of James Queen (1835 Burke) who was a son of James C. Queen (1805) purported son of Moses of 1770-80). Thanks, Gene

Tinkering just a bit this afternoon with Moses data. Someone shows him as a son of Wm. L. Queen, Sr of 1749 and that he, Moses, was born in Wilkes Co., Ga. I will certainly appreciate any data or clues to support this possibility. First NC record of which I'm aware is the sale of 100 acres of Rutherford County land on Coxes Creek from Wm. L. Queen, Sr. on 4-18-1809 to Moses Queen. (Okay, here's a clue.) On 7-16-1810 Moses sold the Rutherford County land to Michael Hufstiller. The 1810, 1820, 1830 and 1840 Burke County, NC census lists Moses. 1840 Burke also lists a Jas Quinn with 4 sons (?) and 2 daus(?) in household. The age fits for a James C. Queen. All help on Moses appreciated. Thanks, Gene

Of course we must never forget that the DNA sample is of the donor, not necessarily the ancestor. So, if grandpa got out of the mountains of N. C. and went to Texas for a visit??? Yep, sure would like to know if there is a 19 or 20 on that sample. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: "O Eugene Queen" <EQueen@lexcominc.net> To: "QResearchers" <QUEEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 4:44 PM Subject: [QUEEN] Mutation 18 on 576 > Rebuttal for Rolla: > > How do you propose to fit the 18 on 576 into the Alfred Queen of 1810 > lineage? > > The 18 in Alfred's lineage was started with my grandfather, William Monroe > Queen, b. 1877. > > It did not exist with his father, James Henry Queen of 1847; nor his great > grandfather, Alfred Queen of 1810. > > Your shot.... > > Gene > When replying to a digest post, quote only the specific text to which you > are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, > remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the > message subject to which you are replying. > > > TO VIEW PREVIOUS EMAILS BY SUBJECT, GO TO THE THREADED ARCHIVES AT > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/listowners > > TO VIEW PREVIOUS EMAILS BY DATES AND SUBJECT GO TO THE SEARCHABLE ARCHIVES > AT http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/listowners > >> http://webpages.charter.net/rlqueen/DNA/queenmarker.htm >> >> http://www.familytreedna.com/public/queenDNA/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > QUEEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Your observation: Kit 26040 is a different matter. Once we accept that 26040 and 25569 have James C. Queen as the most distant confirmed ancestor, then there is no way that Reubin and Moses could have had a Pa with the 18, then one of the grandsons end up with the 17 (don't go on about parallel mutations). It is just not consistent. I would argue that for 26040, we need to confirm the documentary record back to the most distant confirmed ancestor, and would be willing to argue that at some point things aren't so confirmed, and maybe one of these sponsors is playing with a speculative deck. My response... The donor of 26040 is not willing to confirm a lineage to James C. Queen. More research is needed on this lineage. Thus, my tentative exclusion of this kit from the James C. Queen/old Moses Queen lineage. Gene