Carrie QUEEN Clark's daughter, Ethel CLARK, married William Bowers PHILLIPS (4/11/1888-8/4/1947). Williams' parents were George PHILLIPS and Mary HUGHES. George's father, James Bennett PHILLIPS, is my 2nd Great Grandfather. Are there any Ethel CLARK descendants out there looking back up their PHILLIPS tree? If so, PLEASE CONTACT ME! Gayle Phillips Cantrell gpcantrell@home.com Descendants of George Washington Phillips Generation No. 1 1. GEORGE WASHINGTON3 PHILLIPS (JAMES BENNET2, JOHN1) was born 1857 in ,,Carter Co., Tennessee. He married MARY E. HUGHES. She was born 1868 in Burnsville, Yancey, NC. Children of GEORGE PHILLIPS and MARY HUGHES are: i. WILLIAM BOWERS4 PHILLIPS, b. April 11, 1888, Burnsville, Yancey, NC; d. August 04, 1948, Alarka, Swain, NC; m. ETHEL CLARK. More About WILLIAM BOWERS PHILLIPS: Burial: DeHart Cemetery, Bryson City, Swain, NC Cause of Death: Cerebral hemmorhage due to hypertension ii. WILLIAM RILEY PHILLIPS, b. September 06, 1894, Burnsville, Yancey, NC. Notes for WILLIAM RILEY PHILLIPS: Attendant at birth: Lotta McCurry (deceased), Burnsville, NC. Abstract of Evidence: 1. Marriage Record, 2. Personal affidavit of older brother, 3. U.S. Navy Enlistment record. 3/15/1943 Source: Delayed Certificate of Birth Registration, Yancy County, NC, #104

Perhaps old news to most, but came across these Queen males who were born in GA per 1910 Jackson County, Qualla census: Samuel Queen, age 60, born GA 2nd marriage: Jane, age 45, born in NC, married 16 yr James W (or H) Queen, age 56, born GA 2nd marriage: Tilda J., age 60, born in NC, married 21 yr Gene

Hi all, Just thought I'd throw this in the Goins/Queen melting pot. James Campbell Queen b. 1819 Georgia?/TN had a sister Elizabeth Ann b. July 4,1820 in Mississippi. She married Thompson Morgan. They named their second child James Goins Morgan. I don't know a whole lot about this family, except that they were in Wayne Co., Tn and before that they were in Franklin Co., TN. Which, by the way, is where one of the 1774 John Queens is found on the 1820 census. Carol "Where there is no vision, the people perish" Proverbs:29:18 *************************************************************************** QUEENSCASTLE BRANCHES AND BOUGHS http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegaleire Homepage/Donegal, Ireland, Poland & Russia Information http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Estates/6587 Home of Donegal, Ireland Information Site Also Poland & Russia

Hi all, Have had a wonderful conversation with another kind lady who descends by marriage or blood from Isaac Queen (b. ca 1806-1809). She is working to determine the "original" source of the statement regarding George and Betsey Queen as being Isaac's parents. Therefore, I shall defer to her...and will eagerly await her findings. This may be a repeat, but I understand that there is some opinion that the George Queen (Quin) of pg 503 Rutherford is the one who married Mrs. Betsey Queen. Is anyone working the other George Queen of 1830 Rutherford, about the same age? Thanks. Gene

At 07:33 PM 3/16/00 -0500, O Eugene Queen wrote: >[snip] >from. Has someone found a record of marriage of a Charles Queen and >Patsy Goins? Anything with a Charles and Patsy? I'd Just in case there's anything to these marriages, Goins is one of the "typical" Melungeon surnames. See Melungeon-L and BlackDutch-L, both of which are also Rootsweb lists. Elizabeth Whitaker ELWHITAKER@ftc-i.net

Have just had a pleasant conversation with Mrs. Deward Queen, author of the article in the 1989 Fannin Co., GA book relating to ancestors/descendants of Isaac Queen who was reported as the son of a George Queen. She received her info, regarding ancestors of Isaac, from Morris who received it from a cousin in Atlanta. I'm working to contact that cousin. Since the article was prepared long before the Internet had taken off as it has, we should be able to get to the source. At least that's what I'm shooting for. Will advise of the results. Gene

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Hi all, Except for a summary of facts and opinions which have led me to conclude a sibling and parental relationship for Alfred Queen of 1810, do I have unkept promises with anyone on QUEEN-L? Have I promised any data which hasn't been provided? If so, please advise. I have promised myself and my wife that I will truly clean up my room. Thus an additional file cabinet is on the way. In addition, I shall be complying with my plan to summarize miscellaneous Queen data by family and reduce the amount of paper which continues to bury me and the wife's cat. Thunder, Lightning and Max (the dogs) are outside, so they are free from the danger of an untimely demise should a stack of paper fall. The Queen of my primary research is Alfred Queen of 1810. As always, I am prepared to share specific information concerning him or the descendants of one of his 13 known children with anyone with ties or a real interest in the line. James H. Queen of 1808 (who married Isabella Bryson) appears to be his brother, and I have a fair amount of documented data concerning this family and descendants. Samuel Queen of ca 1776 (Haywood Co., NC census of 1820 and 1830) appears to have been the father of Alfred and James. QUEEN-L has been a real blessing to many and I hope to see it remain active. You can bet that I will pop in from time-to-time with questions (!) and, perhaps, some new data or new analysis of old data. My best to all! Gene

If...I understand correctly: 1. Reiley's George Queen (Quin) married Nancy Newton Goins (widow of Daniel Goins). 2. A Charles Queen married a Patsy Goins. Carol suggests that Patsy is a nickname for "Martha". A Martha someone married Charles Queen of the 1850 Cleveland County census. Using only that census, one would calculate Isaac Queen's year of birth as 1829. Thus, we would have a Charles Queen and Patsy Goins with a son, Isaac, born in 1829. However, later census reports for this Charles and Martha suggest a different birth year for this Isaac. The 1900 census reports a birth month and year of 11-1823 for this Isaac (spelled Isack or similar on the census). The 1823 seems to fit with the required(?) age of 21 for Isaac to have signed the petition in about 1844-45 which Reiley mentions. Therefore, is this the same Charles, Martha (Patsy) and Isaac...simply with confusion regarding Isaac's birth year? I'm still interested in learning where the name "Patsy Goins" came from. Has someone found a record of marriage of a Charles Queen and Patsy Goins? Anything with a Charles and Patsy? I'd appreciate info regarding the source, the reference. Please! Now, the obvious question; anyone know of a relationship between Daniel Goins and Patsy (Martha?) Goins? Thanks, Gene

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------BA8938AE9D4C3A59E7B49635 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Forwarded in event any Queen researcher interested in Patton. Gene --------------BA8938AE9D4C3A59E7B49635 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: <PATTON-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from DIRECTORY-DAEMON by InfoAve.Net (PMDF V5.1-12 #23426) id <01JN2DQBX3UO94HFAE@InfoAve.Net>; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 14:56:01 EST Received: from smtp01.infoave.net ("port 1135"@[165.166.0.26]) by InfoAve.Net (PMDF V5.1-12 #23426) with ESMTP id <01JN2DQ2PFNI94HRUK@InfoAve.Net>; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 14:55:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from bl-14.rootsweb.com ("port 2623"@[209.85.6.30]) by SMTP00.InfoAve.Net (PMDF V5.1-12 #23426) with ESMTP id <01JN2DPZX8J8935IVA@SMTP00.InfoAve.Net>; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 14:55:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-14.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA07425; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 11:54:46 -0800 (PST) Resent-date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 11:54:46 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 11:53:12 -0800 Resent-from: PATTON-L@rootsweb.com From: Jess B Coleman <jbcoleman@juno.com> Subject: Isaac PATTON-Tenn. and Texas Resent-sender: PATTON-L-request@rootsweb.com To: PATTON-L@rootsweb.com Resent-message-id: <e4sY-C.A.dyB.Eq-z4@bl-14.rootsweb.com> Message-id: <20000315.115314.-996889.2.jbcoleman@juno.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Juno 4.0.5 Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Old-To: Patton-L@rootsweb.com Old-Cc: jbcoleman@juno.com X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1,3,5,7,9,11,13,15-16,18,20,22-26 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 X-Mailing-List: <PATTON-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/1092 X-Loop: PATTON-L@rootsweb.com X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Trying to find proof that the parents of Isaac Patton were Isaac Patton, Sr. and Augusta Foster. Isaac, Jr. b. Feb. 14, 1777 in York District, S. C. and d. Oct. 6, 1862 in Maury Co., Tenn. His marriage is interesting in that family bible records say that he married a cousin, Ann Patton. He says in his autobiography "I married a distant cousin of my own name"--but never gives her name. Williamson Co., Tenn. records show that on the same day that he married Ann Patton he also married Phoebe Thomas in 1801. Children, who all moved to Texas, are Alexander d. young; Eliza m. George Washington Barnett; Rebecca m. William Lockridge; John Works m Malinda Pickens; Mary Ann m. Dossey Atkinson-my line; and Margaret m. Jesse B. Atkinson. His father d. in Revolutionary War and left his mother with six little boys--she went to Kentucky with her bother-in-law, Jacob Patton. He tells his whole history in his autobiography without ever mentioning a name. Sincerely, Leslie S. Coleman at jbcoleman@juno.com --------------BA8938AE9D4C3A59E7B49635--

Oops, It was too late last night when I read the post concerning Patsy Goins and I goofed big time. Sorry! The post reads "There was an Isaac born in 1829 to Charles Queen and Patsy Goins in NC". Does anyone show a Charles Queen and Patsy Goins? Thanks, Gene

Finished reviewing the microfilm of above census and sad to report no clues regarding possible fellow traveller of Isaac Queen. I did photocopy a number of pages before and after Isaac in the event these names turn up elsewhere. Also some other names which may be of interest. Will post additional details concerning following names if there is a specific request: Abraham Hix, age 70<80; pg 211 Moses Carson, Jr., age 40<50; pg 218 Moses W. Carson, age 50<60; pg 218 John M. Crawford, age 60<70; pg 218 Joseph Ball, age 50<60; pg 222 Polly Flinn, age 20<30; pg 222 Jacob Phillips, age 40<50; pg 226 John Phillips, age 50<60; pg 229 Isaac Queen, age 30<40; pg 249 (complete data already posted to list) William Hicky, age 60<70; pg 250 John Phillips, age 40<50; pg 252 Thomas H. Hunt, age 20<30; pg 252 Samuel Hunt, age 50<60; pg 252 Gene

Hi all, 1. Still looking for ANY piece of documentation that there was an Isaac Queen of 1829 who married a Patsy Goins. If there was such a man, then any and all info regarding them will be appreciated. 2. Still seeking ANY documentation...or reasoning...which some suggest links Isaac Queen (b. ca 1806-1809 and married Ruth Hunt) to a George Queen or a Betsey Queen. For the record, I don't know of anyone who "claims" the George Queen of pg 467 Rutherford Co., NC 1830 census (Reiley's George is believed to be the George Quin (Queen) of pg 503 Rutherford). The George Queen of 1830 is within 2-4 houses of the following neighbors: Richard Queen, age 50<60; Charles Queen, age 20<30 and William Queen, age 20<30. Thanks, Gene

Hi Diane Carney and all, No apology needed for this old fellow. I VERY much appreciate the info you post to this list. I descend from an Alfred Queen (b. 1809/1810) of Haywood County, NC. I believe that his dad was Samuel Queen (b. ca 1776) who spent some time in Haywood in the 1820's and 1830's, if not earlier, and that Alfred's brother was James H. Queen of 1808 who married Isabella. I'm just chasing other Queens around the mountains of NC, TN and GA to see if I can find a gg Uncle or Aunt who will claim me. Thanks for all the posts, and please keep 'em coming. If we can't help ourselves, perhaps we can help others. Gene

Hi folks, Visited my "second home", the library, this evening viewing microfilm in an attempt to tie a ribbon around this Isaac Queen. My summary, including some assumptions:: Isaac Queen (b. 11-1823) Isaac Queen (b. 11-1823) m. Lucinda Towery (b. 9-1827). Isaac was apparently born in Cleveland Co., NC, the son of a Charles Queen (b. ca 1805) and Martha (b. ca 1809). As of the 1900 McDowell County, NC census, Isaac and Lucinda had been married for 49 years which suggests their year of marriage as ca 1851. Lucinda was the mother of 11 children with 8 living at the date of the 1900 census. Isaac's name appears on the 1850 Cleveland County census in the household of his parents, then on the 1860 Cleveland census with his wife and 4 children; then in the Higgins Township of McDowell County on the 1870, 1880 and 1900 census. According to Reiley Kidd's webpage, Isaac joined with others in (1844-45?) in signing a petition to the General Assembly of North Carolina, urging the formation of a new county, Sevier County, from parts of Cleveland, Rutherford, Burke, Catawba and Lincoln Counties. Not dated, this petition was filed (perhaps incorrectly) with other records from the 1844-1845 Session of the General Assembly. The idea was never accepted or enacted. (Reference: as stated.) Isaac owned real estate valued at $40 while in Cleveland County in 1860, then $300 in the Higgins Township of McDowell County as of the enumeration of the 1870 census on July 2, 1870. Isaac was a farmer. At the time of the 1900 McDowell County census, Isaac and his wife, Lucinda, were living in the Higgins Township with their unmarried son, Dock P. Queen. Also in the household was their daughter, Alice P. Pagatt (sp?) and granddaughter, George Ethel Pagatt (sp?) born in 1894. Information from "Roger" at an aol e-mail address in February 2000 indicates that Isaac died in 1901 in McDowell County. Isaac and Lucinda's known children, noted from census records and information from Roger, and using some assumptions, were as follows: John A. Queen (b. ca 1852) Thomas Lawson Queen (b. ca 1855) Joseph Thomas Queen (b. ca 1855)* Martha Elizabeth Queen (b. ca 1857)* Margaret Catharine Queen (b. ca 1864)* William (Dock?) Queen (b. 4-1866)* Susan Eliza Queen (b. ca 1867)* Sophrona C. Queen (b. ca 1869)* Alice Petima Queen (b. 10-1871)* m. Mr. Pagatt (sp?) ....dau George Ethel (sp)(b. 11-1894) References: * indicates one name appeared on a census record. 1850 Cleveland Co., NC census 1860 Cleveland Co. census, pgs 736 & 737 (Isaac listed as Queene) 1870 McDowell Co. census, pg 613, family 59 1880 McDowell Co. census, pg 460, family 30 1900 McDowell Co. census, pg and family numbers scribbled over and unreadable, but in Higgins Township with neighbors Suttles and Stacy. Reiley Kidd's webpage as noted. Roger at AOL as noted.

> Hi Gene and all, > > Looks like an apology is in order to you all, I believe I was a little too > eager to get all my documents transcribed and assigned. Add to this a raging > allergy flair up topped off with several days of being on anti-histamine > medication ..... combine with an admitted 'much too quick' check of my > database index ..... and the first Wylie Queen to pop up on my computer screen > got my vote! OK, enough for the excuses here ..... I have now relegated this > Wiley to the status of 'unrelated individual' until further documentation of > his ancestry is located. Thank you Gene for pointing out other possible > identities. > > Again, I apologize for my short comings in posting this to the QUEEN-L without > better documentation. On next trip to Union Co., I will check the Lunacy > Records to see if anything further can be found on this individual and > hopefully get him properly assigned. In the meantime, if anyone knows of a > Wiley/Wylie/Willey Queen who mysteriously disappeared from known records > around the mid 1890's, let me know! > > Special apology to you Gene, did not mean to cast aspersions onto your family > line. I promise to do better in future ..... or at least while I'm still under > the influence of mind altering medications such as anti-histamines!:-) > > Now, let me just state, hopefully without miring myself in the muck again, > that I also found an affidavit alleging insanity for a John Queen. The > affidavit was made by N.A. Jenkins and dated May 27, 1896. I wonder, ..... > could this N.A. Jenkins be "Nathan Jenkins", son-in-law of James C. Queen .... > brother-in-law to a John Queen? Which of the many John Queen's listed in Union > County could this be .... and did he suffer the same fate as Wylie? ..... an > extended stay in Milledgeville! > > Stay tuned .... will let you all know if any further information is located on > either of the above. > > Diane > > Eugene Queen wrote: > > > Hi Diane, > > > > Just wondering..... > > > > Reasoning for conclusion that the Wylie Queen who married Mae Pulliam > > was the one adjudged a pauper and lunatic at approx age 28?? Was this > > the same man who was later a grocer, Justice of Peace and Mayor of Fry, > > Ga.? > > > > Or.. was this Isaac W. Queen, Sr. at about age 85? or Isaac W. Queen, > > Jr. at about age 47? > > > > Gene > > >

Ok gang, I was going to wait until this evening to dig in my files; but here's where I was going, so I'll toss it out to the group.... As I recall, and one of our members seems to have confirmed it, apparently there was another Isaac Queen born in the early 1800's...perhaps about 1818. If true, and anyone wishes to toss their data to the list, I will welcome it. In any event, I'll try to do some more digging this evening. I have summarized the Isaac Queen of 1806-1809 data from Diane Carney, others and my own research...and now I want to do the same for the other Isaac Queen. My file is in WP format, but can be converted to MSWord if anyone wishes it. Gene

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------F2B381FD73C495C99656B3AE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Forwarded to Queen-L per request of Betty Knight. --------------F2B381FD73C495C99656B3AE Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: <bettyknight@hotmail.com> Received: from DIRECTORY-DAEMON by InfoAve.Net (PMDF V5.1-12 #23426) id <01JN1J9JEJIO94HAJB@InfoAve.Net> for EQUEEN@InfoAve.Net; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 00:23:27 EST Received: from smtp01.infoave.net ("port 1404"@[165.166.0.26]) by InfoAve.Net (PMDF V5.1-12 #23426) with ESMTP id <01JN1J9H4XF69BXEIS@InfoAve.Net> for EQueen@lexcominc.net; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 00:23:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from hotmail.com ("port 2088"@[216.32.181.69]) by SMTP00.InfoAve.Net (PMDF V5.1-12 #23426) with SMTP id <01JN1J9AFPC490RBQZ@SMTP00.InfoAve.Net> for EQueen@lexcominc.net; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 00:23:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 84041 invoked by uid 0); Wed, 15 Mar 2000 05:22:37 +0000 Received: from 152.163.206.186 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 21:22:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 21:22:37 -0800 (PST) From: betty knight <bettyknight@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [QUEEN] Bracket/Queen To: EQueen@lexcominc.net Message-id: <20000315052237.84040.qmail@hotmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Originating-IP: [152.163.206.186] X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Gene, Keep tinkering. Now, that I see the age of the Thomas Brackett in the 1830 census, I can identify him as son of Thomas Brackett b. 1775, and brother of Morgan Brackett, meaning he is the uncle of my Thomas Brackett b. c1825. According to the ages of the children in the household of George and James Queen, each had a female that could fit my Mary Queen, bc1824. Once, I had thought that she was a candidate for the d/o James Queen, I believe. I think he had a son named Jeremiah, and Mary named a son Jeremiah.(Mr. Dyer, help me here) But, I see that she also has daughters, Nancy and a Margaret, which would fit into the George naming pattern. I also, see Hunts and Towerys in the census. Three of my Thomas Brackett's siblings married into the Hunt family. Also, Mary Brackett b 1825, married Issac Towery; and Rosanna Brackett b. 1830 m. George Towery(don't know if it is the same George ref. in census). Both Rosanna and Mary are d/o of John Brackett, who is another of Morgan Brackett brothers, making them both aunts of my Thomas Brackett who m. Mary Queen. This is the closest that I have gotten to finding Mary Queen. All thoughts would be very appreciated. Stevie Powell if you are reading this, I know you can identify the Hunts. Thanks, Betty >From: O Eugene Queen <EQueen@lexcominc.net> >To: QUEEN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [QUEEN] Bracket/Queen >Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 23:13:09 -0500 >Hi all, > >I'm tinkering with the Quin names/families on pg 503 Rutherford Co., NC >census. George Quin and Peggy Quin were neighbors; then about 6 houses >away was a Thomas Bracket; then about 8 houses away were Sarah Hunt, >George Towry, then Catharine Hunt; then 5 houses and James Quin then >Merody Quin as neighbors. > >Checking my "saved" mail, I found these notes: > >Mary (Polly) Queen (b. 1824 m. abt 1845 d. 1903 Union Co GA) m. Thomas >Brackett. Both from Rutherford Co. NC. (Moved to Union Co, GA in mid >1840's per Betty Knight. Don't know if married in NC or in GA.) >..Mary C. Brackett (b. ca 1847) >..David W. Brackett (b. 1848) >..Matilda Jane Brackett (b. 1849) >..Nancy C. Brackett (b. 1850) >..Sarah Margaret Brackett (b. 8-10-1851) >..Others....omitted > >.........So, 1. I guess my first question regards Thomas Brackett. >(This Thomas "Bracket" on 1830 Haywood was age 20<30, 2 males <5, >female 20<30, female <5.) Q: Does this Thomas fit in some way with >"your" Thomas? > >2. Details of the 1830 Rutherford pg 503 Quin folk (anything ring a >bell?): >George Quin >M 20<30 >F 30<40 >M 15<20 >F 15<20 >M 10<15 >M 5<10 >M 5<10 >M <5 >F<5 >F<5 > >Next door: >Peggy Quin >F 40<50 >F 15<20 >F 15<20 >M 5<10 > >22 houses away: >James Quin >M 20<30 >F 20<30 >F 5<10 >M <5 >F <5 >F <5 > >next door to James: >Merody Quin >M 50<60 >F 50<60 >M 20<30 >F 20<30 >F 10<15 > >Comments, anyone? > >Gene > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------F2B381FD73C495C99656B3AE--

Last call before bed: What's the scoop on Charles Queen and Patsy Goins? Have been advised that they had a son, Isaac Queen, born in 1829 in NC. Is this the same Charles Queen who was on the 1850 Cleveland Co., NC census with wife Martha and son, Isaac - age 21, plus other children? Gene