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    1. RE: [QUEEN] how do we know?
    2. Don
    3. Thank you Vicky, What a find for my family. It's a rare treat to look back into the lives of our ancestors. Imagine the life style that these objects dictate. Thanks very much for finding this and sharing it with me. My gggrandfather Jamison signed many of the documents because he learned to read and write. He was the founder of the Baptist Church in Burke County and a Justice of the County Court. Do you have copies of the actual documents? I'd love to have a copy for my files. Can you mail it to me ? Don Queen 13614 Lake Wildwood Drive Penn Valley, Ca. 95946 Just let me know what I owe you. Don --- Vicky <vhutch@lebanon.total-web.net> wrote: > I have had a copy of James Queen's will, > however just today, I received a > copies of the probate records for James Queen. > > Here's what it indicates: (Spelling as in > document) > Rutherford County, NC Record Of Estates, Volume > B, Pages 548-550 - A list of > the sale of the personal property of estate of > James Queen decd and held the > 31st day of July, 1845 - Purchasers: Alfred > Jones, Wm W. Jones, John Crow, > Jno Taylor, W H Taylor, Jamison Queen, James > Jonson, Elizabeth Jonson, > Robert Jamson, Hampton Queen, Widow, W.A. > Queen, H.H. Houser, A.J. Queen, > B.G. Grayson, Thomas Painger, John Hix, A.H. > Sims, J. Queen, John Queen, > Levi Towry, John Pealton? - The statement of > the invory is true to the best > of my knowledge the vouch is that come in to > our hands due the state of the > deceased is as follows: 1 note on Thomas Paine > for $10.00 supposed to be > good. Note on Wm W Jones, H H Houser for > $20.00 also supposed to be good. > One Judgement against Henson Jonson for seventy > dollars and 45 cents due > first day of May 1844 insolvent. We as the > Executors of James Queen decd > certify that within list of property sold by us > and also to the vouchers > that is due the said estate just and true to > the best of our knowledge > giving under our hands and seal the 4th day of > August 1845 - Signed by > Jamison Queen, Jas H. Hale > > Rutherford County, NC Record Of Estates, Volume > B, Pages 551 - All there is > will to widow one negro woman one man one clock > one chest one trunk three > beds and steds and furniture two tables one > cupboard two sets of plates one > set of teacups some other small articles one > loom one looking glass eight > chairs three washing towels two fat kits? one > picklin tub four pails three > pots two ovens one skillet one galson? one tin > bucket nine crocks ten > bushels of wheat one pair of fire dogs one > boushel of salt eight spoons one > set of knives and forks two big wheel one flax > wheel one keal one set of > shoemakers nine head of hogs eight jugs two > flesh forks one lable one fire > shovel one candle stick four stare one coffee > mill one meal sifter and seive > two basons three dishes three plows two hoes > one matick one scuthe and > cradle two axes one pair of gears one paif of > sheep shears two smothing > irons one cow and calf one side saddle nine > pint cups two quarts cups one > tea kittle two pot racks three pair of hooks > two sides of leather one iron > wedge two bibles one clay bank horse bridle and > saddle will to Hampton > Queen - We as the executors of James Queen decd > do certify this inventory is > true estate of the property that was willed to > the widow in the last will > and testament of the said decd and also that > was will to his son Hampton > this the 4th day of August 1845 - Signed by > Jamison Queen, Jas H. Hale > > Rutherford County, NC Record Of Estates, Volume > B, Page 715 - Joseph Taylor, > P Whisnant, and Thomas Jefferson Esqrs were > appointed a commissioners to > settle with the Exe of James Queen decd > therefore ordered that they make a > report in writing to the next term of this > court > > Rutherford County, NC Record Of Estates, Volume > B, Page 724-725 - In > persuance of an order of Court directed to the > unassigned as commissioners > to settle with James H. Hall and Jemerson Queen > Executors of Jas Queen Dect > make the following report: We find the account > of sale bill to be $634.42. > 1 note on W.W. Jones and H.H. Houser $20.00 due > the 9th of June 1845 > Interest $2.00; We find the whole amount of the > estate to be $654.42. And > we further find vouchers to the following > amounts: Book Account of W. > Fortune $3.58; Book Account of Thos Payne > $2.00; Joseph Taylor $5.02; James > McFarland $6.00; Edward Upton $.75; John M > Grayson $4.69; W. Fortune & Summy > $.50; Clerks Receipt $1.50; Sheriffs Receipt > $3.81; Paid J H Jones Bill > $3.45; Wm Hunt's note $15.90; Summey & Fortune > $11.42; Ballance Due J H Hall > $19.31; J Queens Account $6.23; J.H. Jones Note > $13.88; Interest on Note > $.60; Commissions allowed executors 5 percent > $32.72; Commissioners Charge > $6.00; Clerks fee for recording settlement > $1.60 - We find the amount of > vouchers to be one hundred and thirty nine > dollars and sixty cents deducted > from the estate leaves in the hands of the > Executors five hundred and > fourteen dollars and eighty two cents for > distribution - Dated 02/16/1847 > > Vicky H. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Don [mailto:djq1234@yahoo.com] > Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 11:49 AM > To: QUEEN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [QUEEN] how do we know? > > > Hi Reiley and Gang, > James Q was my gggggrandfather. Most of what I > know comes from the "Heritage of Swain County" > written by Mazie. > She lists James as a son of William Lewis Q, > marrying Sarah Jones, no date or place. I list > him as born abt. 1777 in Wilkes Co. Ga. based > on > the research of Dwight Radford of Genealogical > Research Services in Salt Lake. ( It appears > that > his research is based mostly on Mazies > writings) > I have James will (no mention of parents) > James married Sarah in 1802 in Rutherford Co. > NC > and died on Marc 22, 1845 in Rutherford. > I have a census record of James in 1820 in > Rutherford which shows his wife as Sarah Hall > ?, > I also have a note listing Sarahs last name as > Ferguson. > Don Queen > --- Reiley Kidd <radcrk@home.com> wrote: > > I have in my notes that James Queen, son of > > William Lewis Queen, Sr., > > married a Sarah Jones. I didn't include the > > source, and am hoping that > > someone out there has primary evidence that > > a) James is indeed the son of WL Q, Sr., and > > b) that this marriage took place (including > > when and where). > > > > Thanks, > > Reiley Kidd > > Seattle > > > > > > > > ==== QUEEN Mailing List ==== > > GenConnect at Rootsweb > > > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Queen > > > > > ==== QUEEN Mailing List ==== > RootsWeb Threaded Mailing List archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > >

    07/07/2000 07:06:16
    1. RE: [QUEEN] how do we know?
    2. Vicky
    3. I have had a copy of James Queen's will, however just today, I received a copies of the probate records for James Queen. Here's what it indicates: (Spelling as in document) Rutherford County, NC Record Of Estates, Volume B, Pages 548-550 - A list of the sale of the personal property of estate of James Queen decd and held the 31st day of July, 1845 - Purchasers: Alfred Jones, Wm W. Jones, John Crow, Jno Taylor, W H Taylor, Jamison Queen, James Jonson, Elizabeth Jonson, Robert Jamson, Hampton Queen, Widow, W.A. Queen, H.H. Houser, A.J. Queen, B.G. Grayson, Thomas Painger, John Hix, A.H. Sims, J. Queen, John Queen, Levi Towry, John Pealton? - The statement of the invory is true to the best of my knowledge the vouch is that come in to our hands due the state of the deceased is as follows: 1 note on Thomas Paine for $10.00 supposed to be good. Note on Wm W Jones, H H Houser for $20.00 also supposed to be good. One Judgement against Henson Jonson for seventy dollars and 45 cents due first day of May 1844 insolvent. We as the Executors of James Queen decd certify that within list of property sold by us and also to the vouchers that is due the said estate just and true to the best of our knowledge giving under our hands and seal the 4th day of August 1845 - Signed by Jamison Queen, Jas H. Hale Rutherford County, NC Record Of Estates, Volume B, Pages 551 - All there is will to widow one negro woman one man one clock one chest one trunk three beds and steds and furniture two tables one cupboard two sets of plates one set of teacups some other small articles one loom one looking glass eight chairs three washing towels two fat kits? one picklin tub four pails three pots two ovens one skillet one galson? one tin bucket nine crocks ten bushels of wheat one pair of fire dogs one boushel of salt eight spoons one set of knives and forks two big wheel one flax wheel one keal one set of shoemakers nine head of hogs eight jugs two flesh forks one lable one fire shovel one candle stick four stare one coffee mill one meal sifter and seive two basons three dishes three plows two hoes one matick one scuthe and cradle two axes one pair of gears one paif of sheep shears two smothing irons one cow and calf one side saddle nine pint cups two quarts cups one tea kittle two pot racks three pair of hooks two sides of leather one iron wedge two bibles one clay bank horse bridle and saddle will to Hampton Queen - We as the executors of James Queen decd do certify this inventory is true estate of the property that was willed to the widow in the last will and testament of the said decd and also that was will to his son Hampton this the 4th day of August 1845 - Signed by Jamison Queen, Jas H. Hale Rutherford County, NC Record Of Estates, Volume B, Page 715 - Joseph Taylor, P Whisnant, and Thomas Jefferson Esqrs were appointed a commissioners to settle with the Exe of James Queen decd therefore ordered that they make a report in writing to the next term of this court Rutherford County, NC Record Of Estates, Volume B, Page 724-725 - In persuance of an order of Court directed to the unassigned as commissioners to settle with James H. Hall and Jemerson Queen Executors of Jas Queen Dect make the following report: We find the account of sale bill to be $634.42. 1 note on W.W. Jones and H.H. Houser $20.00 due the 9th of June 1845 Interest $2.00; We find the whole amount of the estate to be $654.42. And we further find vouchers to the following amounts: Book Account of W. Fortune $3.58; Book Account of Thos Payne $2.00; Joseph Taylor $5.02; James McFarland $6.00; Edward Upton $.75; John M Grayson $4.69; W. Fortune & Summy $.50; Clerks Receipt $1.50; Sheriffs Receipt $3.81; Paid J H Jones Bill $3.45; Wm Hunt's note $15.90; Summey & Fortune $11.42; Ballance Due J H Hall $19.31; J Queens Account $6.23; J.H. Jones Note $13.88; Interest on Note $.60; Commissions allowed executors 5 percent $32.72; Commissioners Charge $6.00; Clerks fee for recording settlement $1.60 - We find the amount of vouchers to be one hundred and thirty nine dollars and sixty cents deducted from the estate leaves in the hands of the Executors five hundred and fourteen dollars and eighty two cents for distribution - Dated 02/16/1847 Vicky H. -----Original Message----- From: Don [mailto:djq1234@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 11:49 AM To: QUEEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [QUEEN] how do we know? Hi Reiley and Gang, James Q was my gggggrandfather. Most of what I know comes from the "Heritage of Swain County" written by Mazie. She lists James as a son of William Lewis Q, marrying Sarah Jones, no date or place. I list him as born abt. 1777 in Wilkes Co. Ga. based on the research of Dwight Radford of Genealogical Research Services in Salt Lake. ( It appears that his research is based mostly on Mazies writings) I have James will (no mention of parents) James married Sarah in 1802 in Rutherford Co. NC and died on Marc 22, 1845 in Rutherford. I have a census record of James in 1820 in Rutherford which shows his wife as Sarah Hall ?, I also have a note listing Sarahs last name as Ferguson. Don Queen --- Reiley Kidd <radcrk@home.com> wrote: > I have in my notes that James Queen, son of > William Lewis Queen, Sr., > married a Sarah Jones. I didn't include the > source, and am hoping that > someone out there has primary evidence that > a) James is indeed the son of WL Q, Sr., and > b) that this marriage took place (including > when and where). > > Thanks, > Reiley Kidd > Seattle > > > > ==== QUEEN Mailing List ==== > GenConnect at Rootsweb > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Queen > ==== QUEEN Mailing List ==== RootsWeb Threaded Mailing List archives http://archiver.rootsweb.com/

    07/07/2000 06:16:21
    1. Re: [QUEEN] how do we know?
    2. Don
    3. Hi Reiley and Gang, James Q was my gggggrandfather. Most of what I know comes from the "Heritage of Swain County" written by Mazie. She lists James as a son of William Lewis Q, marrying Sarah Jones, no date or place. I list him as born abt. 1777 in Wilkes Co. Ga. based on the research of Dwight Radford of Genealogical Research Services in Salt Lake. ( It appears that his research is based mostly on Mazies writings) I have James will (no mention of parents) James married Sarah in 1802 in Rutherford Co. NC and died on Marc 22, 1845 in Rutherford. I have a census record of James in 1820 in Rutherford which shows his wife as Sarah Hall ?, I also have a note listing Sarahs last name as Ferguson. Don Queen --- Reiley Kidd <radcrk@home.com> wrote: > I have in my notes that James Queen, son of > William Lewis Queen, Sr., > married a Sarah Jones. I didn't include the > source, and am hoping that > someone out there has primary evidence that > a) James is indeed the son of WL Q, Sr., and > b) that this marriage took place (including > when and where). > > Thanks, > Reiley Kidd > Seattle > > > > ==== QUEEN Mailing List ==== > GenConnect at Rootsweb > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Queen >

    07/07/2000 10:48:40
    1. [QUEEN] how do we know?
    2. Reiley Kidd
    3. I have in my notes that James Queen, son of William Lewis Queen, Sr., married a Sarah Jones. I didn't include the source, and am hoping that someone out there has primary evidence that a) James is indeed the son of WL Q, Sr., and b) that this marriage took place (including when and where). Thanks, Reiley Kidd Seattle

    07/06/2000 09:56:41
    1. [QUEEN] Vernon S. Queen and Denzil Harrison Queen
    2. pelikan2
    3. Looking for information on these two Queen brothers: 1) Vernon (Vern) S. Queen, b. c. 1882, Iowa d. abt 1944, possibly British Columbia, Canada 2) Denzil Harrison Queen, b. abt 1890, Iowa d. abt 1937, Texas (?Dallas area) There are two other brothers: Oren(Ora) and Glendon (Glen) and a sister Roxie in this family. All of these stayed in Iowa. If anyone has any information on either of these persons, I would appreciate hearing from you. thanks, kathy

    07/05/2000 08:47:36
    1. [QUEEN] Reiley's Post
    2. O Eugene Queen
    3. Hi Reiley and all, I appreciate all the analysis I can get....so a great thanks to Reiley. A continuing challenge is to find Samuel of 1776-1780 on an 1810 and 1800 census (or other document) since it appears that he was a pa between 1795-1804. And, of course, to find him and his children after 1830. Hoping, but not expecting, luck in Habersham. Interesting, to me anyway, Caney Fork "development". Have been trying to find info on Michael Long of 1830 Haywood census...3 houses from Joseph and Samuel Queen. Visited my 86 year old Aunt Flora Long yesterday and was sketching out the Caney Fork area and plotting houses of the 1930's era. Lights finally started flashing as she spoke of Uncle George Long's aunt Nancy Middleton, etc. Uncle George CAME from the Caney Fork area. So, this evening at the library, chased back to his grandpa, George Marion Long, age 37 on 1880 Jackson County, Caney Fork census. Wonder if I can chase "grandpa Long" back to the Michael Long on the 1830 census??? Oh well. Gene

    07/05/2000 08:37:17
    1. Re: [QUEEN] William Lewis, Sr....Children - Haywood Co., NC
    2. Reiley Kidd
    3. I am belatedly replying to Gene's note, regarding whether the Samuel Queen living next to Joseph H. Queen could be his brother, and a son of WL Queen, Sr. I don't think so, at least assuming that I know who WL Sr.'s 4 sons, listed on the 1790 Rutherford Co. NC federal census are. Same for the 5 males in WL, Sr.'s household in 1800. So I'll add this to the mix. (By the way, there's LOTS of room for naming WL's daughters, and I'll take a stab at that later). I postulate that the four young males (presumably WL's sons) in WL Sr.'s household in 1790 were: Meredith Queen, b. abt 1775 William Lewis Queen, Jr. b. abt 1776 James Queen, b. abt 1777, and Moses Queen b. abt 1781. [I don't know now but believe that this is from Maisie Queen Young] Joseph H. Queen was b. abt 1794, and thus not listed on the 1790 census, but is definitely WL's son, identified as such both in WL's pension application, and in Joseph's pursuit of that application after WL Sr. died. By 1800's census in Rutherford Co., WL's household contains one M 0-9 (this would be Joseph H.), no males 10-15, and 3 16-25. Meredith, the eldest son, is married now, and named in his own household nearby, with two young daughters and a wife (Jane Newton Queen). Although I show WL Jr. as marrying by 1797 (no source, so could be wrong, or a bad guess), he's NOT listed on the census, and may still be living in his father's household. James and Moses presumably are the others in this group. If the above is true, there is no 'room' here for Samuel to be WL's son. Sadly there's no room for my George here either, destroying another hope for both Gene and me. THIS ALL HINGES ON JAMES AND MOSES REALLY BEING W.L. SR.'S SONS - DOES ANYONE HAVE STRONG EVIDENCE TO PROVE THIS FOR EITHER OF THEM? Thanks, Reiley Kidd ----- Original Message ----- From: O Eugene Queen <EQueen@lexcominc.net> To: <QUEEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2000 11:54 AM Subject: [QUEEN] William Lewis, Sr....Children - Haywood Co., NC > Hi all, > > I've never been bashful about turning left when everyone else turns > right or going down a road where others choose not to trod. But, y'all > know that. So, what's new? I also know how to get back on the trail > with others, when evidence points me in that direction. > > Recent evidence now leads me to the same conclusion others reached years > ago; that the Joseph Queen of the 1830 Haywood County, NC census was > probably the younger man in the household...and the older man was > probably William Lewis Queen, Sr. I have absolutely no clue regarding > the identification of the older woman. > > The evidence known to me seems to suggest that Joseph Queen came to > Haywood County (date unknown) and by the 1830 census was living beside > Samuel Queen (not Dicey's husband). Perhaps these two Queens were > living in or near the Wayehutta Creek area, just "outside" the Caney > Fork area; and on the Haywood County side of the Tuckesegee River. By > 1832 Joseph appears to have moved, with his dad, across the Tuckesegee > River into Macon County where, on October 8, 1832, Wm Queen, Sr. > appeared in Macon County Court and applied for a pension. > > Further, it appears probable that he was the same Joseph Queen who's > name appears in the "Culliwhee Election Precinct" of Macon County in > 1835. More research will prove, I hope, that the Cullowhee Creek (and > Bryson Branch near Speedwell which feeds into it) areas were included in > that precinct. > > It is believed that this is the Joseph Queen whose name next appears on > the 1840 Census of Habersham County, GA. A Samuel Queen's name also > appears on that census. Old news? Okay. > > Next, what about the Samuel Queen who was in Haywood at least by Jan > 1820, was on the 1820 census and on the 1830 census with Joseph Queen > (and probably Wm. Sr.) living next door? This Samuel has largely been > ignored by researchers, including one who at last report refused to > acknowledge his existence. Since, from my perspective, his existence no > longer poses a "threat" to any research concerning Joseph and Wm. Lewis > Queen, Sr., perhaps we can bring him out of the closet, consider various > possibilities and open some new doors for some who are at "brick walls" > with their line. > > Was this Samuel a brother to Joseph and a son of Wm. Queen, Sr.? I do > not know. Did this Samuel provide support and housing for his brother, > Joseph, and father in 1830? Again, I do not know. But, I cannot > mentally accept a theory which suggests that it was an accident that > Joseph and Wm. were next-door neighbors to Samuel in 1830....and > apparently some distance from Caney Fork and Johns Creek. > > I would also like to re-visit the question of the identity of the > parties in the 1816 Haywood County marriage: Timothey Queen to Mary Ann > State (or Slate?) on 12-4-1816 with a Saml. x Queen as bondsman. > > Why should anyone but me be interested in this Samuel Queen (b. ca > 1776-1780)? Because he had lots of children, with only two tentatively > identified. Further, we know that he was the only Queen male on the > 1820 Haywood census. He was one of the first Queens in Haywood County. > > The 1820 census lists the following: > Samuel Queen > Male, 26<44 (Samuel, the birth year has been narrowed to 1776-1780) > Female, 26<44 (Probably wife of Samuel) > .........................(Possibly other child or children between 1798 > - 1803) > Female 16<25 (Unidentified, born ca 1795-1804) > Male 16<18 (Unidentified, born ca 1802-1804) > Female 10<15 (Unidentified born ca 1805-1810) > Male 10<15 (Probably James H. Queen of 1808 who married Isabella > Bryson) > Male 10<15 (Probably Alfred of 1810 who married Mary Ann) > Male <10 (Unidentified, born ca 1810-1820) > Female <10 > Female <10 > Female <10 > Female <10 > > Who were these unidentified Queens? Next: More Queens Into Haywood > > Gene > > > > ==== QUEEN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from Queen-L: > Send an email to Queen-L-request@rootsweb.com with the word unsubscribe > in the body of the letter. Same for D list. Just substitute the D for the L. > >

    07/05/2000 04:36:03
    1. [QUEEN] Fwd: {not a subscriber} Jacob Melvin Queen bn 1887 Indiana
    2. --part1_2b.7efbf3b.2694a114_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_2b.7efbf3b.2694a114_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <listadmin-bounces@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-st04.mail.aol.com (rly-st04.mail.aol.com [172.18.149.19]) by air-yd04.mail.aol.com (v75.18) with ESMTP; Tue, 04 Jul 2000 16:55:13 -0400 Received: from rly-zd02.mx.aol.com (rly-zd02.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.226]) by rly-st04.mail.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/AOL-5.0.0) with ESMTP id QAA12756 for <mndyqn@aol.com>; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 16:50:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lists6.rootsweb.com (lists6.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.125]) by rly-zd02.mx.aol.com (v75.18) with ESMTP; Tue, 04 Jul 2000 16:50:40 2000 Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists6.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e64KoZ304308 for QUEEN-admin@lists6.rootsweb.com; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 13:50:35 -0700 Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 13:50:35 -0700 X-From_: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com Tue Jul 4 13:50:34 2000 Received: from newmail.rootsweb.com (newmail.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.103]) by lists6.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e64KoYM04214 for <QUEEN-L@lists6.rootsweb.com>; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 13:50:34 -0700 Received: from cgi.rootsweb.com (IDENT:root@cgi.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.54]) by newmail.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e64KoYn19301 for <QUEEN-L@rootsweb.com>; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 13:50:34 -0700 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by cgi.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e64K5AZ07675; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 13:05:10 -0700 Old-Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 13:05:10 -0700 Message-Id: <200007042005.e64K5AZ07675@cgi.rootsweb.com> X-Authentication-Warning: cgi.rootsweb.com: nobody set sender to gc-gateway@rootsweb.com using -f To: QUEEN-L@rootsweb.com From: Lindsay <lins@casco.net> Sender: lins@casco.net X-Diagnostic: Not on the accept list Subject: {not a subscriber} Jacob Melvin Queen bn 1887 Indiana X-Envelope-To: QUEEN-L X-Mailer: Unknown Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Posted on: Queen Queries Board URL: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Queen?read=53 Surname: QUEEN ------------------------- I have a Jacob Melvin Queen born 1887 in Daviees County Indiana to James Queen and Sarah Andis. In early 1900's he moved to Oklahoma with Sara. I think he married and had a son but not sure. Someone told me that I they thought he died in Texas not sure of that either. If you have any information please contact me - Thanks lins@casco.net --part1_2b.7efbf3b.2694a114_boundary--

    07/05/2000 04:32:52
    1. [QUEEN] Fwd: New Queen Queries Post
    2. --part1_20.83011b8.2694a061_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_20.83011b8.2694a061_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <elaine@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-ye01.mx.aol.com (rly-ye01.mail.aol.com [172.18.151.198]) by air-ye01.mx.aol.com (v75.18) with ESMTP; Tue, 04 Jul 2000 16:05:33 -0400 Received: from cgi.rootsweb.com (cgi.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.54]) by rly-ye01.mx.aol.com (v75.18) with ESMTP; Tue, 04 Jul 2000 16:05:14 -0400 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by cgi.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e64K5AC07670; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 13:05:10 -0700 Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 13:05:10 -0700 Message-Id: <200007042005.e64K5AC07670@cgi.rootsweb.com> X-Authentication-Warning: cgi.rootsweb.com: nobody set sender to elaine@rootsweb.com using -f To: MndyQn@aol.com From: genconnect@genconnect.rootsweb.com Subject: New Queen Queries Post X-Mailer: Unknown Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Queen Queries A new message, "Jacob Melvin Queen bn 1887 Indiana," was posted by Lindsay on Tue, 04 Jul 2000 Surname: QUEEN --- NAME: Lindsay EMAIL: lins@casco.net DATE: Jul 04 2000 URL: http:// QRYTEXT: I have a Jacob Melvin Queen born 1887 in Daviees County Indiana to James Queen and Sarah Andis. In early 1900's he moved to Oklahoma with Sara. I think he married and had a son but not sure. Someone told me that I they thought he died in Texas not sure of that either. If you have any information please contact me - Thanks lins@casco.net . This is an automatically-generated notice. <http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Queen?admin> --part1_20.83011b8.2694a061_boundary--

    07/05/2000 04:29:53
    1. RE: [QUEEN] The Queen Women
    2. Vicky
    3. My mistake. This has always confused me, as if it is true that she was 100 in 1850, the Ruth Upton listed could not have been the daughter of Henson Queen. However, Henson does mention a daughter Ruth Upton in his will and it is possible that the family decided she was so old that they would just state she was 100 instead of 90. Does the book provide any information on the Hamby she had married previously? Vicky H. -----Original Message----- From: betty knight [mailto:bettyknight@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2000 5:25 PM To: vhutch@lebanon.total-web.net; QUEEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [QUEEN] The Queen Women Hello Vicky and all: According to book by Shirley Adair's, "Benjamin Bracket of the Carolinas", Ruth Queen Hambee(Hamby)(c1760 SC - 1850c) m. 20 Aug 1789 to Thomas Upton (1762 - Dec 1733). Her father is given as Henson and Sarah Queen. William Queen and John Queen are listed as her brothers. Marr. Bond 0000136445, Bondsmen: Wm. Monroe, Wm. Queen. Witness Isaac Whiteside. Thomas Upton's will (1833) names wife Ruth Upton Rutherford Co., NC will abstract #855. and Happy 4th of July, Betty B. Knight >From: "Vicky" <vhutch@lebanon.total-web.net> >In an effort to tie up some loose ends, I attempted to track down all the >women who were are married into the Queen line. > >Best Find First!! >There is a Ruth Upton (possibly wife of Thomas Upton and daughter of Wm >Queen) living in 1850 Macon County, NC - Dwelling 488 and her AGE is shown >as 100 > >Catherine Queen - married James Ridley on 04/28/1831 in Rutherford - Living >1850 Macon County Dwelling No. 719 > >Elizabeth Queen - married George Gibson on 10/25/1838 in Lincoln Cty - >Living 1850 Lincoln Cty Dwelling no. 368 (possible daughter of Catherine >Queen) > >Jane Queen (possible dtr of Henson Queen) - married Henry Johnston - Living >1850 Rutherford Cty Dwelling No. 1764 > >Margaret Queen - Married Adam Jarrell on 09/26/1846 Lincoln Cty - Living >1850 Rutherford Cty Dwelling 1663 > >Margaret Queen - Married John Roberts on 03/09/1813 in Rutherford - Living >1850 Cleveland Dwelling 716 > >Margaret Queen - Married John McFarland on 04/14/1791 Rutherford - Living >1850 Rutherford Dwelling 1732 > >Sarah Jones - Married James Queen - Living 1850 Rutherford Dwelling 840 > >Nancy Queen - Married Andrew Hampton Sims on 03/01/1831 Rutherford - Living >1850 Rutherford Dwelling 868 > >Olive Queen - Married Ross Carter on 12/26/1832 - Living 1850 Haywood >Dwelling 1010 > >Rebecca Queen - Married Kindred Reeves on 10/07/1845 in Haywood - Living >1850 Haywood Dwelling 988 > >Sarah Queen - Married Posey Morgan on 11/17/1846 in Rutherford - Living >1850 >Rutherford Dwelling 706 > >Sarah E. Queen - Married Jasper N. Holland on 02/14/1846 in Lincoln - >Living >1850 Gaston Dwelling 423 > >Virginia 'Jane' Queen - Married Joshua Hall on 11/05/1807 in Rutherford - >Living 1850 Macon Dwelling 833 > >Lucinda Queen - Married Wm J Parker on 10/11/1839 Haywood - Living 1850 >Haywood Dwelling 792 > > > >Vicky Hutchings >www.tnheritage.com > > > >==== QUEEN Mailing List ==== >GenConnect at Rootsweb >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Queen > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

    07/04/2000 04:08:34
    1. RE: [QUEEN] Catherine Queen Jones
    2. Vicky
    3. Could it be?? 1850 Union Cty, GA - Dwelling No. 114 Josiah Jones, age 60, born NC Nancy, age 50, born NC Dickerson, age 21, born NC Margaret, age 18, born NC Nancy, age 15, born NC Huldah, age 8, born NC -----Original Message----- From: O Eugene Queen [mailto:EQueen@lexcominc.net] Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2000 9:21 AM To: QUEEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [QUEEN] Catherine Queen Jones Somewhere it is written, "ask and ye shall receive". I am aware that I do lots of asking; but hopefully I give a bit as well. Here's another round. I'm interested in info regarding the Josiah Jones who lived xdoor to James Queen, pg 16 Macon Co, NC 1830 census. This James was possibly/probably the James H. Queen b. 1808 who married Isabella Bryson. Further, James of 1808 was probably the son of Samuel Queen of 1776-80 who appears on the 1820 and 1830 Haywood County census. Further, this Samuel could well have been a son of William Lewis Queen, Sr. Now.... It has been reported that Wm Sr. had a daughter, Catherine (b. ca 1774 m. 2-13-1806 in Rutherford) m. to Josiah Jones. On the 1820 Rutherford census, a Josiah Jones lived 4 houses from Wm. Queen, SR. I've seen no other data posted concerning Josiah and Catherine Queen Jones (other than someone has a 1772 date for Catherine and another has a Catherine Queen b. 1842 in Holmes Co., MS m. Josiah Jones). I'm seeking more info for reasons obvious in the above paragraph. Here's what I have taken from marriage and census records. I do not know if it is the same man or if it is Catherine. I've converted age ranges to YOB ranges: 1806-2-13 Josiah Jones m. Catherine Queen in Rutherford Co., NC 1810 Have not located. 1820 Rutherford Co., NC, pg 390 Josiah Jones M (b. 1775-1794) F (b. 1775-1794) M (b. 1804-1810) F (b. 1804-1810) M (b. 1810-1820) F (b. 1810-1820) F (b. 1810-1820) 1830 Macon Co., NC, pg 16 Josiah Jones M (b. 1780-1790) F (b. 1780-1790) F (b. 1810-1815) M (b. 1815-1820) M (b. 1815-1820) F (b. 1815-1820) M (b. 1820-1825) 1840 Where are they? Did they also go to Habersham Co, GA? I've ordered the microfilm to review. Index reflect Queen on 137, 148; Jones on 139, 141, 153. 1850 Where are they? Habersham index reflects Queen on 239A; Jones on 240B, then more on 256B and following. Can anyone shed any light on the Catherine Queen/Josiah Jones family? Names of any of the children? Critique of the above census data is welcomed. Gene ==== QUEEN Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from Queen-L: Send an email to Queen-L-request@rootsweb.com with the word unsubscribe in the body of the letter. Same for D list. Just substitute the D for the L.

    07/04/2000 02:59:42
    1. RE: [QUEEN] The Queen Women
    2. betty knight
    3. Vicky, The book doesn't mention any further info for Hambee/Hamby first husband of Ruth Queen. Shirley Adair author of the book is descended from the Upton/Bracketts. She may have further details. Her e-mail is Shirley@Adair.net I know she is currently doing a revision to the book. Queen researching is confusing to me also. If Ruth is d/o of Henson Queen then this would be Henson born c1740's, correct? I think I remember seeing somewhere that Ruth Upton died in Macon Co, NC but maybe incorrect. But if Ruth were born in c1760s could this not be her in 1850,(give or not a few). Felix Brackett is aligned in the book as being possible son of Benjamin and Elizabeth Upton Brackett. Felix moved to Habersham, Co, GA with Queens, Joseph, Hugh and Samuel living nearby. Felix married ?Jane Asynthia/Sena/Cynthia Queen. I use Jane as part of her name because in the 1850 census of Habersham she is listed as Jane but all other years as Asinthe/Ascenitha and was born between 1809-12NC according to which census you are reading. Which Queen family does she belong to? Becomes very confusing with Uptons/Queens/Bracketts. Then, Felix's daughter, Elizabeth marries Meriday Queen and lives in Union Co, GA. And of course, my Mary Queen, unidentified, born c1824NC marries Thomas Brackett of Rutherford Co, NC; and they move to Union CO, GA in mid 1840's. I don't know where they were married. So two more QUEEN women to add to the adoption list. I am sure one day these puzzles will fit. Take care, Betty >From: "Vicky" <vhutch@lebanon.total-web.net> > >My mistake. This has always confused me, as if it is true that she was 100 >in 1850, the Ruth Upton listed could not have been the daughter of Henson >Queen. > >However, Henson does mention a daughter Ruth Upton in his will and it is >possible that the family decided she was so old that they would just state >she was 100 instead of 90. > >Does the book provide any information on the Hamby she had married >previously? > >Vicky H. > >-----Original Message----- >From: betty knight [mailto:bettyknight@hotmail.com] >Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2000 5:25 PM >To: vhutch@lebanon.total-web.net; QUEEN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [QUEEN] The Queen Women > > >Hello Vicky and all: > >According to book by Shirley Adair's, "Benjamin Bracket of the Carolinas", >Ruth Queen Hambee(Hamby)(c1760 SC - 1850c) m. 20 Aug 1789 to Thomas Upton >(1762 - Dec 1733). Her father is given as Henson and Sarah Queen. William >Queen and John Queen are listed as her brothers. > Marr. Bond 0000136445, Bondsmen: Wm. Monroe, Wm. Queen. Witness Isaac >Whiteside. Thomas Upton's will (1833) names wife Ruth Upton Rutherford Co., >NC will abstract #855. > >and Happy 4th of July, >Betty B. Knight > > >From: "Vicky" <vhutch@lebanon.total-web.net> > >In an effort to tie up some loose ends, I attempted to track down all the > >women who were are married into the Queen line. > > > >Best Find First!! > >There is a Ruth Upton (possibly wife of Thomas Upton and daughter of Wm > >Queen) living in 1850 Macon County, NC - Dwelling 488 and her AGE is >shown > >as 100 > > > >Catherine Queen - married James Ridley on 04/28/1831 in Rutherford - >Living > >1850 Macon County Dwelling No. 719 > > > >Elizabeth Queen - married George Gibson on 10/25/1838 in Lincoln Cty - > >Living 1850 Lincoln Cty Dwelling no. 368 (possible daughter of Catherine > >Queen) > > > >Jane Queen (possible dtr of Henson Queen) - married Henry Johnston - >Living > >1850 Rutherford Cty Dwelling No. 1764 > > > >Margaret Queen - Married Adam Jarrell on 09/26/1846 Lincoln Cty - Living > >1850 Rutherford Cty Dwelling 1663 > > > >Margaret Queen - Married John Roberts on 03/09/1813 in Rutherford - >Living > >1850 Cleveland Dwelling 716 > > > >Margaret Queen - Married John McFarland on 04/14/1791 Rutherford - Living > >1850 Rutherford Dwelling 1732 > > > >Sarah Jones - Married James Queen - Living 1850 Rutherford Dwelling 840 > > > >Nancy Queen - Married Andrew Hampton Sims on 03/01/1831 Rutherford - >Living > >1850 Rutherford Dwelling 868 > > > >Olive Queen - Married Ross Carter on 12/26/1832 - Living 1850 Haywood > >Dwelling 1010 > > > >Rebecca Queen - Married Kindred Reeves on 10/07/1845 in Haywood - Living > >1850 Haywood Dwelling 988 > > > >Sarah Queen - Married Posey Morgan on 11/17/1846 in Rutherford - Living > >1850 > >Rutherford Dwelling 706 > > > >Sarah E. Queen - Married Jasper N. Holland on 02/14/1846 in Lincoln - > >Living > >1850 Gaston Dwelling 423 > > > >Virginia 'Jane' Queen - Married Joshua Hall on 11/05/1807 in Rutherford - > >Living 1850 Macon Dwelling 833 > > > >Lucinda Queen - Married Wm J Parker on 10/11/1839 Haywood - Living 1850 > >Haywood Dwelling 792 > > > > > > > >Vicky Hutchings > >www.tnheritage.com > > > > > > > >==== QUEEN Mailing List ==== > >GenConnect at Rootsweb > >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Queen > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > >==== QUEEN Mailing List ==== >QUEEN (Q500) at ROOTSWEB >http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/q/u/QUEEN/ > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

    07/04/2000 02:49:45
    1. [QUEEN] The Queen Women
    2. Vicky
    3. In an effort to tie up some loose ends, I attempted to track down all the women who were are married into the Queen line. Best Find First!! There is a Ruth Upton (possibly wife of Thomas Upton and daughter of Wm Queen) living in 1850 Macon County, NC - Dwelling 488 and her AGE is shown as 100 Catherine Queen - married James Ridley on 04/28/1831 in Rutherford - Living 1850 Macon County Dwelling No. 719 Elizabeth Queen - married George Gibson on 10/25/1838 in Lincoln Cty - Living 1850 Lincoln Cty Dwelling no. 368 (possible daughter of Catherine Queen) Jane Queen (possible dtr of Henson Queen) - married Henry Johnston - Living 1850 Rutherford Cty Dwelling No. 1764 Margaret Queen - Married Adam Jarrell on 09/26/1846 Lincoln Cty - Living 1850 Rutherford Cty Dwelling 1663 Margaret Queen - Married John Roberts on 03/09/1813 in Rutherford - Living 1850 Cleveland Dwelling 716 Margaret Queen - Married John McFarland on 04/14/1791 Rutherford - Living 1850 Rutherford Dwelling 1732 Sarah Jones - Married James Queen - Living 1850 Rutherford Dwelling 840 Nancy Queen - Married Andrew Hampton Sims on 03/01/1831 Rutherford - Living 1850 Rutherford Dwelling 868 Olive Queen - Married Ross Carter on 12/26/1832 - Living 1850 Haywood Dwelling 1010 Rebecca Queen - Married Kindred Reeves on 10/07/1845 in Haywood - Living 1850 Haywood Dwelling 988 Sarah Queen - Married Posey Morgan on 11/17/1846 in Rutherford - Living 1850 Rutherford Dwelling 706 Sarah E. Queen - Married Jasper N. Holland on 02/14/1846 in Lincoln - Living 1850 Gaston Dwelling 423 Virginia 'Jane' Queen - Married Joshua Hall on 11/05/1807 in Rutherford - Living 1850 Macon Dwelling 833 Lucinda Queen - Married Wm J Parker on 10/11/1839 Haywood - Living 1850 Haywood Dwelling 792 Vicky Hutchings www.tnheritage.com

    07/04/2000 02:24:14
    1. RE: [QUEEN] RACKLEY-QUEEN
    2. Vicky
    3. One other observation on this line. Mason Rackley (also spelled Ratley in some records) married Sallie Queen on 01/02/1842 in Union County, GA. By 1850, the census indicates that Mason's wife is named Celia, however, there is a Matlock Queen who was 10 living in the household. I am making the great leap of faith at this point to say that Mason married Sally, a widow of a Queen, and that she apparently died prior to 1850. How's that for speculation!! Vicky H -----Original Message----- From: Carol Rackley [mailto:faded_genes@iwon.com] Sent: Monday, July 03, 2000 11:33 PM To: QUEEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [QUEEN] RACKLEY-QUEEN I have found mention of a Celia or Cellia QUEEN who married a Mason RACKLEY. The only dates I have is the fact that they had a son Stephen who was born 1856. This line is supposed to have been Native American, but don't know if that was the RACKLEY or QUEEN blood. I do know that at one point there was a single RACKLEY family in Cherokee County, NC and there are several QUEEN lines there. Carol ........................................................ iWon.com http://www.iwon.com why wouldn't you? ........................................................ ==== QUEEN Mailing List ==== GenConnect at Rootsweb http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Queen

    07/04/2000 02:09:54
    1. RE: [QUEEN] Catherine Queen Jones
    2. Vicky
    3. My records indicate her name was Nancy Catherine Queen? Does anyone have any idea where I came up with this info? (Just what happens when you don't take the time to document because you tell yourself you will remember - HA, Another SENIOR MOMENT) Vicky -----Original Message----- From: O Eugene Queen [mailto:EQueen@lexcominc.net] Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2000 9:21 AM To: QUEEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [QUEEN] Catherine Queen Jones Somewhere it is written, "ask and ye shall receive". I am aware that I do lots of asking; but hopefully I give a bit as well. Here's another round. I'm interested in info regarding the Josiah Jones who lived xdoor to James Queen, pg 16 Macon Co, NC 1830 census. This James was possibly/probably the James H. Queen b. 1808 who married Isabella Bryson. Further, James of 1808 was probably the son of Samuel Queen of 1776-80 who appears on the 1820 and 1830 Haywood County census. Further, this Samuel could well have been a son of William Lewis Queen, Sr. Now.... It has been reported that Wm Sr. had a daughter, Catherine (b. ca 1774 m. 2-13-1806 in Rutherford) m. to Josiah Jones. On the 1820 Rutherford census, a Josiah Jones lived 4 houses from Wm. Queen, SR. I've seen no other data posted concerning Josiah and Catherine Queen Jones (other than someone has a 1772 date for Catherine and another has a Catherine Queen b. 1842 in Holmes Co., MS m. Josiah Jones). I'm seeking more info for reasons obvious in the above paragraph. Here's what I have taken from marriage and census records. I do not know if it is the same man or if it is Catherine. I've converted age ranges to YOB ranges: 1806-2-13 Josiah Jones m. Catherine Queen in Rutherford Co., NC 1810 Have not located. 1820 Rutherford Co., NC, pg 390 Josiah Jones M (b. 1775-1794) F (b. 1775-1794) M (b. 1804-1810) F (b. 1804-1810) M (b. 1810-1820) F (b. 1810-1820) F (b. 1810-1820) 1830 Macon Co., NC, pg 16 Josiah Jones M (b. 1780-1790) F (b. 1780-1790) F (b. 1810-1815) M (b. 1815-1820) M (b. 1815-1820) F (b. 1815-1820) M (b. 1820-1825) 1840 Where are they? Did they also go to Habersham Co, GA? I've ordered the microfilm to review. Index reflect Queen on 137, 148; Jones on 139, 141, 153. 1850 Where are they? Habersham index reflects Queen on 239A; Jones on 240B, then more on 256B and following. Can anyone shed any light on the Catherine Queen/Josiah Jones family? Names of any of the children? Critique of the above census data is welcomed. Gene ==== QUEEN Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from Queen-L: Send an email to Queen-L-request@rootsweb.com with the word unsubscribe in the body of the letter. Same for D list. Just substitute the D for the L.

    07/04/2000 01:33:49
    1. Re: [QUEEN] Vicki's Joe Queen
    2. Vicki
    3. I've never researched Joe A. Queen. Anyone else? Vicki ----- Original Message ----- From: "O Eugene Queen" <EQueen@lexcominc.net> To: <QUEEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2000 12:10 PM Subject: [QUEEN] Vicki's Joe Queen > Hi Vicki and all, > > Thanks on the info regarding unknown middle name for Joseph H. Queen. > Apparently I picked up the questionable middle name from some post on > the list. Will refrain from using it...unless my memory slips....and > it's going fast : ) > > Also, appreciate your confirmation that the date was correct for Wm. C. > Out of order listing is certainly a possibility. (Everyone but Vicki > ignore this: But, another possibility is that J. A. Queen was 32, not > 22. Has J. A. Queen's DOB been confirmed?) > > Thank you for your "long" post. Never too long for me. > > Gene > > > ==== QUEEN Mailing List ==== > Queen info pg. Message boards, family crest info, > other Queen links, etc. > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Bluffs/5932/queen.html >

    07/04/2000 11:26:37
    1. [QUEEN] Vicki's Joe Queen
    2. O Eugene Queen
    3. Hi Vicki and all, Thanks on the info regarding unknown middle name for Joseph H. Queen. Apparently I picked up the questionable middle name from some post on the list. Will refrain from using it...unless my memory slips....and it's going fast : ) Also, appreciate your confirmation that the date was correct for Wm. C. Out of order listing is certainly a possibility. (Everyone but Vicki ignore this: But, another possibility is that J. A. Queen was 32, not 22. Has J. A. Queen's DOB been confirmed?) Thank you for your "long" post. Never too long for me. Gene

    07/04/2000 11:10:32
    1. Re: [QUEEN] Joseph Queen of 1794
    2. Vicki
    3. First: Gene, have you ever seen anything that said Joseph's middle name was Henson? I'm really curious about that. I've always figured it was, but have never recorded it that way because I've never seen it on any document. The following is the information I took from an old sheet of paper that my great-uncle wrote out from notes that had been taken from my greatgrandmother, Katie Colley House, who died in 1960 at 100 years old. Jan 1972 Joe Queen Ursula Queen (Irish descent) sons daughters Creighton Polly Edd Artie Joe Olive Vine and then it goes on to Olive Vine Queen marrying Daniel Colley. I'm not saying that this list is 100% correct, but it came from someone that knew them all. And it does match the census records...........i.e. that they only had 6 children. My greatgrandmother, Katie (Susan Katherine) was still living with her parents, Daniel and Olive Queen Colley in 1880, according to the census. (DeKalb Co. GA) Joseph H. Queen was also living with them. This is the last census he appears on. Joseph H. Queen and Ursula were living in Habersham Co. GA with his son, Wm. C. Queen in 1870. I've got a copy of that census: 1870 Census of Habersham Co. GA PO: Clarksville, GA Wm. C. Queen 49 Farming Real Estate: $500 Personl Prop: $287 POB NC (looks like GA was marked out) Melissa A. Queen 44 Keeping house POB: GA Josephine Queen 15 at home POB: GA Charles F. Queen 12 farm hand POB: GA Geo S. Queen (say this person is F.......whoops! I had always thought it was George S.........a mistake?) 9 POB: GA E. Jane 6 POB: GA Jos. H. Queen 73 farm hand? POB: NC Ursula Queen 75 POB: NC That's the last census Ursula Queen appears on. She must have died and then Joseph H. went to live with his daughter, Olive Colley in DeKalb Co. GA. (Her tombstone says Ollie Colley) BTW, Gene that wouldn't be an error on the 1850 census as Wm. C. was 49 in 1870, making him born in 1821. Just got them out of order maybe. On some of the Wm. Lewis Queen, Sr. pension papers, I found where one was signed by a Isaac Craton. I'm assuming now, this is where the "Creighton" name came from. A relative? Now, I guess I need to figure out is the Geo S. being F. is an error or "she" really was a female. Anyone have a Georgia or something like that in your files? Even though Joseph H. Queen married Ursula Jones and his brother, James married Sarah Jones, Maizie says in a letter to me, that she didn't know if Ursula and Sarah were related as there were so many Jones. But this Sarah wasn't mentioned in John Jones' will, leading me to believe they were not sisters. Another curious thing: Children of Joseph H. and Ursula: Joseph A. b. 1828 and then in1837 Artie E. Queen comes along. A big spread! And after seeing The Patriot last night, it got me curious about what happened to the land (287 acres, I think) that Wm. L. Queen, Sr. received in Wilkes Co. GA for his service in the Revolution? Anyone have any records about that? Sorry this is so long! Vicki ----- Original Message ----- From: "O Eugene Queen" <EQueen@lexcominc.net> To: <QUEEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 03, 2000 7:23 PM Subject: [QUEEN] Joseph Queen of 1794 > Info from census reports which may pertain to Joseph Henson Queen b. ca > 1794: > > 1820 Census....Anyone know where this Joseph was and have the census > reference for him, wife, and female child <5 ? > > Carol posted info from a 2-16-1824 Will of John Jones in which he > referred to his daughter, Usley Queen. Will was recorded 7-1825 on pg > 40.....what county??? > > Pg 364 of 1830 Haywood Co, NC census: > Joseph Queen > M 80<90 (Assume dad, Wm. Lewis Queen, Sr.) > F 70<80 (Unknown) > M 30<40 (Joseph) > F 30<40 (wife, ) > F 10<15 > M 5<10 > F 5<10 > M <5 > M <5 > > > Pg 137 of 1840 Habersham, GA census: > Joseph Queen > M 40<50 > F 40<50 > M 15<20 > F 15<20 > M 10<15 > M 10<15 > M 5<10 > F <5 > > Pg 22 of 1850 Habersham Co, GA census: > Joseph Queen, 56, M, NC > Usely Queen, 56, f, NC > J. A. Queen, 22, m, NC > C. C. Queen, 29, m, NC > A. E. Queen, 13, f, NC > > I don't understand the listing of C.C. Queen, age 29, following the > listing of J. A. Queen, age 22. Was this a typo? > > > ==== QUEEN Mailing List ==== > GenConnect Family Association: Queen > Surname Index > http://surhelp-bin.rootsweb.com/surindx.pl?site=88QUEEN >

    07/04/2000 09:51:13
    1. Re: [QUEEN] The Queen Women
    2. betty knight
    3. Hello Vicky and all: According to book by Shirley Adair's, "Benjamin Bracket of the Carolinas", Ruth Queen Hambee(Hamby)(c1760 SC - 1850c) m. 20 Aug 1789 to Thomas Upton (1762 - Dec 1733). Her father is given as Henson and Sarah Queen. William Queen and John Queen are listed as her brothers. Marr. Bond 0000136445, Bondsmen: Wm. Monroe, Wm. Queen. Witness Isaac Whiteside. Thomas Upton's will (1833) names wife Ruth Upton Rutherford Co., NC will abstract #855. and Happy 4th of July, Betty B. Knight >From: "Vicky" <vhutch@lebanon.total-web.net> >In an effort to tie up some loose ends, I attempted to track down all the >women who were are married into the Queen line. > >Best Find First!! >There is a Ruth Upton (possibly wife of Thomas Upton and daughter of Wm >Queen) living in 1850 Macon County, NC - Dwelling 488 and her AGE is shown >as 100 > >Catherine Queen - married James Ridley on 04/28/1831 in Rutherford - Living >1850 Macon County Dwelling No. 719 > >Elizabeth Queen - married George Gibson on 10/25/1838 in Lincoln Cty - >Living 1850 Lincoln Cty Dwelling no. 368 (possible daughter of Catherine >Queen) > >Jane Queen (possible dtr of Henson Queen) - married Henry Johnston - Living >1850 Rutherford Cty Dwelling No. 1764 > >Margaret Queen - Married Adam Jarrell on 09/26/1846 Lincoln Cty - Living >1850 Rutherford Cty Dwelling 1663 > >Margaret Queen - Married John Roberts on 03/09/1813 in Rutherford - Living >1850 Cleveland Dwelling 716 > >Margaret Queen - Married John McFarland on 04/14/1791 Rutherford - Living >1850 Rutherford Dwelling 1732 > >Sarah Jones - Married James Queen - Living 1850 Rutherford Dwelling 840 > >Nancy Queen - Married Andrew Hampton Sims on 03/01/1831 Rutherford - Living >1850 Rutherford Dwelling 868 > >Olive Queen - Married Ross Carter on 12/26/1832 - Living 1850 Haywood >Dwelling 1010 > >Rebecca Queen - Married Kindred Reeves on 10/07/1845 in Haywood - Living >1850 Haywood Dwelling 988 > >Sarah Queen - Married Posey Morgan on 11/17/1846 in Rutherford - Living >1850 >Rutherford Dwelling 706 > >Sarah E. Queen - Married Jasper N. Holland on 02/14/1846 in Lincoln - >Living >1850 Gaston Dwelling 423 > >Virginia 'Jane' Queen - Married Joshua Hall on 11/05/1807 in Rutherford - >Living 1850 Macon Dwelling 833 > >Lucinda Queen - Married Wm J Parker on 10/11/1839 Haywood - Living 1850 >Haywood Dwelling 792 > > > >Vicky Hutchings >www.tnheritage.com > > > >==== QUEEN Mailing List ==== >GenConnect at Rootsweb >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Queen > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

    07/04/2000 09:24:53
    1. [QUEEN] Catherine Queen Jones
    2. O Eugene Queen
    3. Somewhere it is written, "ask and ye shall receive". I am aware that I do lots of asking; but hopefully I give a bit as well. Here's another round. I'm interested in info regarding the Josiah Jones who lived xdoor to James Queen, pg 16 Macon Co, NC 1830 census. This James was possibly/probably the James H. Queen b. 1808 who married Isabella Bryson. Further, James of 1808 was probably the son of Samuel Queen of 1776-80 who appears on the 1820 and 1830 Haywood County census. Further, this Samuel could well have been a son of William Lewis Queen, Sr. Now.... It has been reported that Wm Sr. had a daughter, Catherine (b. ca 1774 m. 2-13-1806 in Rutherford) m. to Josiah Jones. On the 1820 Rutherford census, a Josiah Jones lived 4 houses from Wm. Queen, SR. I've seen no other data posted concerning Josiah and Catherine Queen Jones (other than someone has a 1772 date for Catherine and another has a Catherine Queen b. 1842 in Holmes Co., MS m. Josiah Jones). I'm seeking more info for reasons obvious in the above paragraph. Here's what I have taken from marriage and census records. I do not know if it is the same man or if it is Catherine. I've converted age ranges to YOB ranges: 1806-2-13 Josiah Jones m. Catherine Queen in Rutherford Co., NC 1810 Have not located. 1820 Rutherford Co., NC, pg 390 Josiah Jones M (b. 1775-1794) F (b. 1775-1794) M (b. 1804-1810) F (b. 1804-1810) M (b. 1810-1820) F (b. 1810-1820) F (b. 1810-1820) 1830 Macon Co., NC, pg 16 Josiah Jones M (b. 1780-1790) F (b. 1780-1790) F (b. 1810-1815) M (b. 1815-1820) M (b. 1815-1820) F (b. 1815-1820) M (b. 1820-1825) 1840 Where are they? Did they also go to Habersham Co, GA? I've ordered the microfilm to review. Index reflect Queen on 137, 148; Jones on 139, 141, 153. 1850 Where are they? Habersham index reflects Queen on 239A; Jones on 240B, then more on 256B and following. Can anyone shed any light on the Catherine Queen/Josiah Jones family? Names of any of the children? Critique of the above census data is welcomed. Gene

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