Anyone claim the R. Queen and the S. Queen of the 1810 Montgomery County, NC census? It seems that Teddy was claiming the R. Queen as Reuben. But, I don't recall any takers for the S. Queen. Samuel (who married Dicy) was in Buncombe, I believe. You guessed it, I am now publicly claiming the S. Queen of 1810 Montgomery County as the Samuel of 1820 and 1830 Haywood. The challenge is to prove or disprove. Quick Review: Joseph and Samuel Queen were x door neighbors in 1830 Haywood. Samuel was alone (on census) in Haywood in 1820. R. and S(amuel?) Queen were x door neighbors in 1810 Montgomery (one of the four sons of Samuel died between 1810 Montgomery and 1820 Haywood). Anyone have nothing to do and wish to take a shot at this? Gene

Hi all, The 1828 boundary line for Haywood/Macon County is still the challenge...but too big to conquer in one fell swoop. Assumptions concerning the line from the TN/NC line to the Tuckaseegee are as follows: Line begins on the NC/TN state line at or near Luftee Gap between Deep Creek and the Oconalufty River. Then South along the Thomas Ridge with Deep Creek to the West in Macon County (as indicated by Deep Creek listing on 1850 census for that county). To the East of the line is Quallatown (renamed from Indiantown in 1839 in honor of an Indian woman named Qualla, or Polly) with the Indians listed on Haywood County census of 1840. This would require that the line meet the Tuckasegee somewhere between Bryson City and Ela, NC. Since Deep Creek was clearly mentioned in the reference by Corbitt, the following reference must apply to another creek (with a different name today) "the head waters of Newton's Mill Creek; thence down the said creek to Tuckaseega River". This essentially leaves two creeks as my prime candidates: Coopers Creek and Galbraith Creek. The head of Coopers Creek is near Newton Bald, thus must be a candidate due to the Newton name. However, since high elevations are prominent in the description of the line, it is questionable if the line came down off Thomas Ridge at this point. After re-thinking a number of times and with additional research, Galbraith Creek appears to me at this time to be the most likely candidate since the Thomas Ridge ends in this area and this creek flows into the Tuckasegee. In any event, the Tuckasegee in the general area of Ela clearly appears to me to be the point at which the line reached the river. I hope to research some land transactions in Haywood next week to help support or reject this opinion. I have been known to change my position in the face of new evidence or a re-thinking of old evidence : ) If anyone has any legal or historical document which pinpoints part or all of the line, it will certainly be welcomed. Corbitt's description is simply too vague to plot with any precision (especially with the loss of the identity of Newton's Mill Creek). Thanks, Gene

----- Original Message ----- From: Becky Clark <bclark@pe.net> To: <NCSCOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 8:57 AM Subject: [NCSCOTS] Cemetery > Handcopied by my grandmother from an old McDougald Bible of the Moore > Co., NC area regarding St. Andrews Presbyterian Church in that area: > > "About the year 1857, David Gaster, Daniel McGilvary, William > McDougald, James McBride were leaders in organizing a Sunday School in a > little school house about midway between Lemon Springs and Swann Station > and it was in this little school house that Rev. John L. McIver held > services for severeal years ..." > "An infant daughter of John and Eliza Jane Nicholson, who died July > 14, 1870, was the first person buried in the cemetery. The following > day, James McBride Shaw, nine months old, son of Dougald C. and > Christian McBride Shaw, was buried. Rev. James McQueen was buried there, > having died Feb. 16, 1892. He is the only minister buried in this > cemetery. > "Charter members of St. Andrews were Lydia Marshburn, Mrs. Medi Ann > Jordon, Mary McIver. > "Those coming from Barbecue were John McDougald, William McDougald > and wife, Catherine McDougald, and Margaret McDougald. > "The following have been elected to the office of ruling elder: > William McDougald, John McDougald, Dougald Johnson, W.J. McDougald and > others. > "Elected to office of deacon, Dougald Johnson, Dougald C. Cameron > and others. > "St. Andrews was transfered from Fayetteville Presbytery to Orange, > along with a number of other churches. There is much more written in > Montreat History of St. Andrew's Church." > > I have more details on the church but thought the names might help > someone out there. > > Becky Clark > > > ==== NCSCOTS Mailing List ==== > Reminder: the Smartlist software will remove you from the mailing list > if your mailbox becomes full and messages bounce. Unsubscribe before > leaving on vacation. > > > ============================== > Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. > RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >

Too much missed sleep lately, I suppose; but part of a previous msg I posted doesn't make much sense now that I've looked at it more closely. Anyway, I did pick up more data from library which may interest someone. "Free Inhabitants in Deep Creek in the County of Macon", NC on 9-10-1850 included: Ebenezer Newton, age 71, born (unintelligible), but 2 houses away Solomon Newton, age 39, born in Rutherford. Now, back up to 1830, first census year for new Macon County. 1830 Macon, pg 6: Ebenezer Newton, age 50<60 with female, age 40<50; and 8 younger persons in household 1840 Macon, pg 156: Ebnezer (?) Newton, age 60<70 with female50<60; and 2 younger persons in household. 1850 Macon, pg 344 repeat: Ebenezer Newton, age 71 Eleanor, age 69 Wonder if this man had a grist mill in Macon County? Wonder if he came from Rutherford and had one there? The revelation which startled me was that the Deep Creek and Indian Creek areas above Bryson City were in Macon County after it's formation from Haywood. Please don't ask me where I thought Macon was between 1828-1851, because it certainly wasn't there. Whew! Gene

Found these QUEENs in Lincoln Co. NC Civil War muster rolls. Anyone have further information regarding these men? BERRY QUEEN PRIVATE THIRTY FOURTH REGIMENT COMPANY E ENLISTED MARCH 31, 1861 KILLED MAY 5, 1864 WILDERNESS JAMES QUEEN PRIVATE FIFTY SECOND REGIMENT COMPANY H ENLISTED MARCH 25, 1862 WOUNDED JOSHUA QUEEN PRIVATE THIRTY FOURTH REGIMENT COMPANY E ENLISTED AUGUST 31, 1816 WOUNDED RICHMOND DIED WASHINGTON QUEEN PRIVATE THIRTY FOURTH REGIMENT COMPANY E ENLISTED AUGUST 31, 1861 DIED DECEMBER 4, 1861 Thanks, Charlton Queen

Hi, Will the Cherokee Indian specialists please give some assistance here. Above Bryson City, NC is Deep Creek which is fed from further up the mountain by Indian Creek which has as it's point of origin the area of Thomas Ridge, I believe. The Cherokee Indian, Tsali, hid out in the Deep Creek/Indian Creek area I believe, during the 1838 Indian removal nightmare. Can anyone give a bit of history of these two creeks? I wonder if Newton's Mill Creek may have been renamed to Indian Creek after the 1838 era. Any and all help appreciated. Gene

Hi all, Okay gang, I went to the library at lunch and pulled out the 1850 Macon County, NC microfilm and started looking for township listings. The reader was somewhat broken, so I had to turn my head sideways to read the darn thing; but it was well worth it. I saw "Deep Creek" listed on pgs 342B-346B. After I got up off the floor and regained my composure, I started reading the names: Ute Hyatt, Asaph Sherril, John Sherrill, Ebenezer Newton, Abraham Wiggins....most names which seem to "fit" with my folks up Deep Creek and Indian Creek above present day Bryson City. If that's "my" Deep Creek, then it was in Haywood until 1828, Macon till 1851, then Jackson County until current day Swain County was formed. Some of these folks didn't move that much; the counties "moved". So far, so good; still must flat out nail that boundary line using known landmarks. Again, James Hardin has come through...this time with proper terminology concerning streams. So.... As I'm going "up" the main channel of the (Tuckasegee River), away from Bryson City and towards the Tuckasegee's point of origin, I'll pass Webster, Wayehutta Creek, Cullowhee, East Laport AND Cany (Caney) Fork Creek. I'll go to the "first main fork (of the Tuckasegee) above the mouth of the Cany Fork". This large fork would be at the town of Tuckasegee. I'll stop there for now. (Lord willing, I'll stand on the banks of the river this week-end.) Therefore...land lying South, SouthWest of the Tuckasegee River between Bryson City and Cullowhee..even to the town of Tuckasegee were in MACON County between 1828-1851???. (Yep, I'd still like assurances that I'm correct, or not.) Therefore, Joseph Queen, who was in Haywood County in 1830 in the general area of Caney Fork, (with dad Wm Queen, Sr....and maybe Samuel of 1776-1780), crossed over the Tuckasegee into Macon County from Haywood by the time of their court appearance in 1832. They may not have moved more than 500 feet, but possibly 1/2 mile or so into the Cullowhee Creek/Bryson Branch (at Speedwell) area where Samuel's probable son, James H. Queen of 1808 (who had married Isabella Bryson in 1829 in Haywood) now lived. James H and Isabella apparently the young couple of the 1830 Macon census. By 1835, Samuel's son, Alfred Queen of 1810 is voting and getting land up in Scotts Creek area of Haywood County where his Aunt (?) Mary Hemphill lives. Joseph Queen is voting in Macon County, where his dad dies, and my Samuel is moving/has moved out on his way to....GA? where Joseph will soon follow, now that his dad is dead? BTW folks, don't believe any of this unless you wish. I'm still plotting and scheming and not ready to cast anything in concrete. But, I'll welcome your input. Gene

Hi all, Thanks to info from James Hardin, I am working to identify in a useful manner the Haywood/Macon boundary of 1828-1851. If everyone else on the list already knows the answer....great. How about nailing it for me. Further info from James suggests, to me anyway, that at least I'm on the correct continent, country and state. Thanks, James. Gene

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Hi all, A week or so ago I posted info regarding the G. P. Stout historical maps available from Carolina Maps by Mail. Well, I ordered the one which appeared to be the most promising for my current activities and it arrived today. I was expecting to be disappointed and I was. A very overly priced map and of less benefit to me than my existing Quadrangle maps. Hope others are more pleased if they order. Lack thereof: Solid or dotted lines on a piece of paper indicating county boundaries don't tell me diddle-squat. Neither does verbiage with outdated or weak reference points. I'm really trying to determine the 1828 Macon County, NC boundary lines with special emphasis on the Haywood/Macon boundary line. Can anyone help with this verbiage (comments/questions in parens are mine)? ...Beginning on the Tennessee line, on the extreme height of the Great Smoky Mountain; (This would be Clingman's Dome?) Thence along the main summit of a ridge that divides the waters of the Oconaluftee River from those of Deep Creek, (This would be NE of Clingman's Dome down Thomas Ridge to Newton Bald?) to the head waters of Newton's Mill Creek; (today one of these two creeks: Indian Creek or Coopers Creek. Which one?) thence down the said creek to Tuckaseega River; (Down Indian Creek to Deep Creek to Tuckasegee at Bryson OR down Coopers Creek to Tuckasegee at Ela, east of Bryson City. Which one?) thence up the main channel of the river to the first main fork above the mouth of the Cany Fork of said river; (Follow Tuckasegee through Whittier, Wilmot, Webster; past Wayehutta Creek on the left or North, past Cullowhee, past East Laport, past Caney Fork Creek, to the community/town of Tuckasegee? Also, tell me again which way the Tuckasegee flows...from Bryson City to East Laport...or East Laport to Bryson City? Okay, I stop here without any further guessing.) thence along the ridge dividing the forks of said river to the top of the main blue ridge, which divides the eastern from the western waters..... ................... Can anyone help me out with this before I go any further and end up in China? How much of the above is correct and where did I go astray? "Up the channel" seems to clash with my understanding of "down" the Tuckasegee. Help and Corrections please. Thanks, Gene

Hi all, Anyone researching the Caney Fork Queens....including the Joseph Queen and Samuel Queen of 1830 Haywood NC census...may be interested in this piece of data obtained from a kind researcher on another list: Identifications > Clemans Hooper (b. ca 1770) Clemmons Hooper was brother to Absalom and was also known as Boonie Hooper. He lived in Tennessee (Cocke County) from about 1815 (perhaps as early as 1810) to about 1835, when he returned to NC. You might be interested to learn that Clemmons gave testimony for the pension application of Samuel Queen. I am going to try to squeeze in a copy of the signature of Clemmons for the next issue of the Hooper Compass. > William Hooper (b. ca 1806) m. Nancy Son of Absalom Hooper, William was born 2 May 1806; d. 31 Oct 1893, married 22 June 1826 to Nancy Bryson. > Thomas Hopper (Hooper?) (b. ca 1755-1774) Buncombe Co., NC 1800 census. The Thomas Hopper of the 1800 Buncombe census may be a duplicate of the Thomas Hooper enumerated near Absalom Hooper in SC in 1800 (Absalom himself appears on both the Greenville and Pendleton listings - he had property nearly straddling the boundary). NO Thomas Hooper is on the 1810 Buncombe, nor in SC. However, the widow Hannah (Alexander) Hooper/Hopper was on the 1810 Buncombe, with a huge household of sons born between 1800 and 1810. Hannah d. 1 May 1871 in the household of her son-in-law Solomon Carter. Carter descendants do identify the husband of Hannah as a Thomas Hopper/Hooper. ............................... The Samuel referred to by Anne is apparently the Samuel who married Dicey, not my Samuel of ca 1776-80. However, my Alfred, probable son of "my" Samuel, sold out and headed to Cocke County, TN about 4 years after "Boonie" Hooper returned from Cocke County and lived amongst the Queens! I wonder? Still searching under haystacks and anywhere else there might be a needle, or the eye of a needle. Gene

I am trying to solve a mystery concerning my great-great-great-grandmother, Miriam Rowland, daughter of Thomas Rowland and Mildred McCoy Lewis, born in Rutherford County, NC, 1780, and died in White County, GA, 1845. She married Ransom Powell in 1797, and he predeceased her. I do not know when he died, but he is listed in Rutherford County tax records of 1820. The mystery is this. Her father died in Greenville District, SC in 1836, and in his will he named all of his children. Miriam, his eldest child, is listed as Mira Queen, and this would indicate that Ransom had died and Miriam had remarried. (Mira could well be a nickname for Miriam.) Miriam turned up in Habersham County, GA, where she had married children, and was an executrix for the estate of her son, Thomas A. Powell, in 1842. Her name at that time is given as Miriam Powell. She died in 1845, and her tombstone in Mt. Pleasant Methodist Church Cemetery, White County, GA gives her name as Miriam Powell, "daughter of Thomas Rowland". Thomas was long dead, and no mention is made of a husband. There were Queens in Rutherford County, NC and in Habersham County, GA. Does anyone know of one who married a widow (divorcee?) Miriam Rowland Powell? Why wouldn't she use the name of her second husband, if she had one? I am completely baffled. Can anyone help me? Lily Mullinax

Windsor, Susie Lillian: Hartville, MO; died at Mt. Vernon Hospital on Jun 21, 1972 at 4:10 p.m.; occupation: baby sitter; born Sep 5, 1913 in Illinois; d/o George Queen and Martha Denore; w/o Bill Windsor; 1 daughter Patricia Gully of Springfield, MO; 3 brothers Raymond Allman of Canton, IL, Richard Allman of Lewistown, IL and George Queen of Prairie City, IL; 4 sisters Mrs. Helen Turner of Quincy, IL, Mrs. Margaret Lowe of Silvis, IL, Mrs. Dorothy Hoerner of Illinois and Maxine Anck of Arizona; 10 grandchildren; 1 great-grandchild. Burial Steele Memorial Cemetery. "Where there is no vision, the people perish" Proverbs:29:18 <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> QUEENSCASTLE BRANCHES AND BOUGHS http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegaleire Homepage/Donegal, Ireland, Poland & Russia Information http://www.geocities.com/postalq Home of Donegal, Ireland Information Site Also Poland & Russia

Hi guys, I posted an address for Harbin/Queen marriage info. Unfortunately, I didn't realize that there was no "escape" link from the website, so no way to tell where it was from. I went to the GenWeb archives search engine at this address http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ussearch.htm And searched for Queen in Maryland. That's where that link came up. carol "Where there is no vision, the people perish" Proverbs:29:18 <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> QUEENSCASTLE BRANCHES AND BOUGHS http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegaleire Homepage/Donegal, Ireland, Poland & Russia Information http://www.geocities.com/postalq Home of Donegal, Ireland Information Site Also Poland & Russia

"Hello again Cousins!" Sticking my neck out on this one, so if any of you can shoot this theory down, PLEASE do so! Might any of you happen to know who Sarah JOHNSTON, b abt 1747, MA, dau. of Daniel and Susannah (BIXBY) JOHNSTON of Essex Co., MA, might have married? Or know whether either Daniel JOHNSON or his wife, Susannah BIXBY, may have left wills or probate records? Or as I have found previously in other situations, might anyone have a death record for Sarah that would preclude her as having been the wife of Deacon Ebezezer GRAY of Pelham, MA? As Deacon Ebenezer GRAY and his wife Sarah JOHNSTON of Pelham, MA, did name their only "known to me" son, Daniel Johnston GRAY, I am inclined to think that I'm on the right track. Ebenezer and Sarah were married 12 Feb 1767, Pelham, MA, or at least there is a recorded marriage record for them there. Might there also be one in Haverill, MA, where Daniel and Susannah (BIXBY) GRAY are believed to have resided, as I have found more than one marriage in MA doubly recorded, once where the bride's family lived, and again where the groom's family lived, if both not from the same community. I believe extra weight may be added to this budding theory due to the dau., Sarah JOHNSTON, of Daniel and Susannah (BIXBY) JOHNSTON, also having had a sister named Lydia. This, since I am working to try to establish the ancestry of Lydia Queen GRAY, who m. Aaron GOULD, 1781, in Pelham, MA, I do find to be somewhat enticing to my curiosity to say the least! Might anyone know as to whether Daniel JOHNSTON, who reportedly d 8 Mar 1794, Haverill, Essex Co., MA, might have left a will or other probate record naming his surviving children, or might his wife have done so, as she reportedly died 16 Jan 1779, also in Haverill? I am wondering if Sarah JOHNSTON, wife of Ebenezer GRAY, may have had a bequest left to her or her, existing heirs, and due to that fact, Deacon Ebenezer failed to include dau. Lydia Queen GRAY's name in his will? So many questions and so few answers at this time, especially for this northwest Missouri resident whose family has so many New England ancestors still to be identified. Any and all help and assistance on this one will be most appreciated! I believe all the descendant researchers who are working on the family and descendants of Aaron and Lydia Queen (GRAY) GOULD of WV, will accord anyone who helps to break through this impasse on the ancestry of Lydia, with respect and admiration, as I surely will, as we have been stymied on this question for well over a century now, in so far as I am aware! Thank you so very much "Cousins!" for either helping to establish any of this to be fact , or in showing it to be total fancy, regardless of the outcome! TTYL Craig "Always looking for Cousins!"

Hi all, I found a mention of a marriage of Maria Harbin & Thomas Queen at the following website. http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetch2?/u1/data/md+index+5096262853+F Seems I remember someone asking about this. Carol "Where there is no vision, the people perish" Proverbs:29:18 <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> QUEENSCASTLE BRANCHES AND BOUGHS http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegaleire Homepage/Donegal, Ireland, Poland & Russia Information http://www.geocities.com/postalq Home of Donegal, Ireland Information Site Also Poland & Russia

For Don and all, Answer - yes! And to prove that comment, I offer the following: Biggerstaff, Noah - Sgt. Company B, 54th NC Inf. d. 10/20/64. buried in grave #342 at Camp Chase, Columbus, Ohio. Info above from: Register of Confederate Soldiers & Sailors Who Died in Federal Prisons & Military Hospitals in the North. Copyright 1984 by Frances Ingmire and Carolyn Ericson, Published by Ingmire Publications, St. Louis, MO., p. 60. The material was compiled from records from the War Department and published in 1912. I have the book and it has been a most valuable instrument for edification on the Civil War participants from the South. Regards, Jerry Dyer

I just had one of those rare moments that puts a face on all the names and numbers that we toss back & forth everyday. Nancy Queen Wiley noticed my recent posting and sent me the following concerning my great grandfather; > > A related Civil War Story told to P. G. Queen > (my dad) and Pinkney Gaither Queen. > John Henderson Queen was called "Hence". He married a civil war buddy's widow, Margaret McElrath Biggerstaff. He was asked by his buddy when his friend was dying to take > care of her and his girls. Hence did so and > raised a large family of his own > in addition to his step daughters. > > On a Burke Co. Sept 1870 Census > > It shows John H. age 26 > Margaret age 32 > Children: > Mary Biggerstaff 13 > Ida Biggerstaff 11 > Julia Biggerstaff 9 > Joseph Queen 3 > I knew that Noah Biggerstaff was Margaret McElraths first husband and that he died in 1864, but I never imagined the connection with my ggrandfather. For years I have wondered why John Henderson's name does not appear anywhere in the records of Point Lookout ( a notorious Union prison). I have the record from Point Lookout showing that he took the oath there after the war, but no other mention. Well, since he was with Noah Biggerstaff when Noah died, "Hence" must have also been at Camp Chase Prison(wherever that was) I know I'm a hopeless romantic, but picture Noah dying in the arms of his buddy Hence and Noah asking Hence to promise to look after his wife and young girls. Well, Hence kept his promise. After walking home to NC from MD, he married Margaret and took in her daughters. Their first born was Joseph Jackson Queen, my grandfather. Don Queen, aging but happy.

At 02:32 AM 7/8/00 -0400, someone wrote: >Direct Descendants of Lydia Gray & Aaron Gould > 1 Lydia Gray b: June 03, 1759 MD, Andover d: February 05, 1830 in WV, >Upshur Co., French Creek > "Hello again Cousins!" Have been looking at Aaron GOULD and Lydia GRAY for almost twenty- four years now, and don't believe anyone can prove me wrong on this! Have seen this written up incorrectly in so many places, am hoping to get this out so that anyone who either happens to share descent through this family, or has a research interest in same, might not have to waste their research time chasing incorrect information. Please do check the records and see what you find! I have come across absolutely nothing whatsoever to put Lydia GRAY in Maryland at any time! I attribute the doubly erroneous citation for her birth as having been Andover, Maryland, to someone inadvertently hitting the "D" instead of an "A", when meaning to type the abbreviation for Massachusetts. But Andover, Massachusetts, for the birth place of Lydia Queen GRAY, wife of Aaron GOULD, is still INCORRECT! There is a birth record in Andover, Massachusetts, dated 3 Jun 1759, for a Lydia GOULD, dau. of Thomas and Lydia GRAY, but if you also check the death records for Andover, Massachusetts, you will find, Lydia GRAY, died 26 Jan 1786, dau. of Thomas and Lydia GRAY, and therefore definitely cannot be our Lydia Queen GRAY, wife of Aaron GOULD. The Andover, Massachusetts, birth place for Lydia GRAY, wife of Aaron GOULD, was submitted by someone to the I.G.I. many years ago, but is still just as incorrect today for our Lydia Queen GRAY as it was when originally submitted to the I.G.I. all that time ago. The only place I know of to date, that we have found the name "Queen" associated with our Lydia GRAY, is in the will of her husband, Aaron GOULD. Might any one of you know of any other occurrence listing her name as Lydia Queen GRAY in any other primary source record? I have failed to locate, and know of no one else who has been able to locate a birth record for our Lydia Queen GRAY. The records of the French Creek Presbyterian Church attribute her as having been a sister of Mrs. Jenny Jane PEEBLES, and a birth record does exist for Jenny Jane GRAY, b 19 Jun 1771, Pelham, MA, dau. of Deacon Ebenezer and Sarah (JOHNSTON) GRAY. Aaron GOULD and Lydia GRAY were married, 29 May 1781, Pelham, MA, while her sister, Jenny Jane GRAY, and Pattrick PEEBLES were married 19 Jul 1801, Pelham, MA. The only complication, if someone might wish to view it as such, is that Deacon Ebenezer GRAY m. Sarah JOHNSTON, 12 Feb 1767, and with Lydia Queen GRAY being their dau., she would only have been about fourteen years of age at the time of her marriage. No one that I have come across at any time has yet attributed Deacon Ebenezer GRAY as having been married prior to his marriage to Sarah JOHNSTON, but he was twenty-four years old when he married Sarah, so that possibility does exist. Might any one of you know of a previous marriage for Deacon Ebenezer GRAY? I have looked for the surname "QUEEN" in the records for Pelham, and have found very, very little of any consequence whatsoever as yet. To date, the only mention of that surname that I've come across among the Pelham, MA, records is as follows: Pelham, MA, Town Meeting, 15 Feb 1763: "Matthew GRAY was allowed five shillings and four pence for 'warning Curtis CLEMENS & his wife' out of the town". John GRAY "was allowed five shillings & four pence for Warning the Widow Elizabeth QUEEN out of town." Whether the above has significance to our search, only time may tell! To date I know nothing of the ancestry of Sarah JOHNSTON, reportedly b 3 Sep 1749, d Feb 1776, so a possibility still exists that we may be looking for a QUEEN family link somewhere in her ancestry, but once again, only time may tell! Should any one of you happen to have records that might either dispute or call into question, any of the above, please do contact me! Please do contact me as well, should you have any information for any of the above family that would indeed link our families! TTYL Craig "Always looking for Cousins!"

Wondering if anyone has researched the Middleton/Queen connections of 1830 and prior? Brief summary of my info to date is that Thomas Middleton came from Pendleton, SC by 1807 where, in Nov. 1816, he obtained 100 acres of land in the Caney Fork area of then Haywood County. In March 1820 he sold the land to Henson Queen and, reportedly, "headed for Georgia". His son, John Middleton, married Jemima Denton on 12-19-1815 in Haywood and some of their descendants remained in the Johns Creek/Caney Fork area until the 1930's and probably to this day. Questions: 1) Does anyone show Queen/Middletons as neighbors in the late 1700's of S.C.? 2) Any Queen/Middleton neighbors in GA in 1830-1840's? Thanks, Gene