Hello, Sim M. Queen is my great-grandfather. Are there any Lucy J. QUEEN descendants out there? Does anybody know what her middle name was? Any possibility it was--gasp!--Justice? Stir, stir, stir... Gayle Phillips Cantrell gpcantrell@home.com 1 John W. QUEEN, Sr. Born: Abt. 1774 , Montgomery, NC Census: 10/08/1860 Macon County, NC, Tennessee Valley, 654 668 QUEEN, John (Jr.) 2 John W. QUEEN, Jr. Born: 1816 ,,Burke Co., North Carolina d: 06/03/1863 in Rome, Floyd, GA +Martha A. "Patty/Patsy" HICKEY Born: 08/21/1823 , , Macon, NC Married: 10/03/1840 in Macon County, NC, Bondsman Wm. Collins witness H.G. Woodfin; Bond #000077891; Record #01 010. Father: John HICKEY Mother: Eva CALER Census: 1910 Living in the home of her son, William Merritt Queen, Macon County, NC d: 03/04/1919 3 Lucy J. QUEEN Born: 1842 Macon County, NC 3 Myra Melvira QUEEN Born: 07/18/1845 Macon County, NC d: 01/25/1904 in Garfield, Whitman, WA +George Carson GRANT Married: 1861 3 Thomas Butler J. "Thomas Butler Justice" QUEEN Born: Abt. 1846 Macon County, NC +Dona Phillipi MATLOCK Born: Abt. 1846 Married: 09/22/1865 in , Macon, NC 3 Quinetta QUEEN Born: 04/1850 Macon County, NC 3 Sarah E. QUEEN Born: 1853 Macon County, NC d: 1901 +Jesse C. GRANT Born: 1850 d: 1938 3 [1] William Merritt QUEEN Born: 01/09/1857 Macon County, NC d: 10/27/1942 in Cowee Township, Macon County, NC +Mary Frances RICKMAN Born: 09/01/1857 Married: 01/04/1883 Father: Jesse Wiley RICKMAN, Sr. Mother: Mary Alice RICKMAN d: 12/16/1911 *2nd Wife of [1] William Merritt QUEEN: +Sarah Moriah PAINTER Born: 04/23/1885 Married: Aft. 1886 Father: Sam PAINTER Mother: Ella DALTON d: 09/24/1973 3 Simon Montgomery "Sim" QUEEN Born: 03/13/1859 , Macon, NC Occupation: Farmer d: 03/06/1944 in , Macon, NC +Mary Etta "Etter" TIPPETT Born: 01/08/1864 ,,Macon Co., North Carolina Married: 11/18/1880 in Cowee Township, Macon, NC Father: John Dennis TIPPETT Mother: Mary C. MCGAHA d: 06/18/1941 in , Macon, NC 3 Infant QUEEN Born: 1860 Macon County, NC

Hi, Since posting a message that I thought Robert Henry Queen, b. 1832 might be the son of John R. Queen, I have seen information indicating he is the son of a brother of John R. Queen, Henson Queen and Mary "Polly" Brock. Has this been proven? Can anyone help me on this? I also have just dicovered information on a Robert Husley Queen, b. 1832, md to Nancy E. Franklin and Nancy E. York. There is a lot of matches on dates and children. Is Robert Husley Queen and Robert Henry Queen the same person? If so, which is the correct name. Is Nancy E. Franklin and Nancy E. York the same person, with possibly one being a maiden surname and the other from a previous marriage? I would like to get this straight. Lee L.

During the recent discussions of some Queen bastard children, someone made a humerous comment about some of their relatives moving to Texas and marrying into the McKinney family and their being buried in the Van Alstyne Cemetery, Grayson County, Texas, where the Texas pioneer, Collin McKinney is buried. It is for Collin McKinney that the nearby Collin Co. and town of McKinney is named. Unfortunately, I can not find that message and must have accidentally deleted it. Being both a Queen and a McKinney descendant, I may be related to these McKinneys in Texas. If whoever it was that sent this message sees this, I would appreciate their getting in touch with me. Lee L.

Hello from Barbara (Justice) Powers, a Queen subscriber: My first shot at researching my grandfather, Thomas Butler Justice, revealed the name of Thomas Butler (Justice) Queen in the family of John W. Queen & Martha Hickey. Some strong common characteristics developed from the research of these two men. Family lore says that my grandfather (TBJ) was adopted; he was born in NC abt 1848. TBJ "appeared" in Texas, migrating from NC thru ARK & married my grandmother in 1880 in Sherman, TX, when he was in his mid-thirties. This coincides with the time frame when TBJQ "disappeared" from NC, leaving a wife (Dona Phillipi Matlock Queen) 1 son & 3 daughters. When the Queen children grew up, they also moved from NC to Texas & Oklahoma and TBJ was in & out of the areas where they were ath the same times they were there. Documentation places TBJ in Oklahoma during the time that Dona (Matlock) Queen was also there staying with a daughter and TBJQ visited her there; stating that he was going to buy some property & build a house for each of his 4 Queen children on each of the 4 corners & build himself a house in the middle; instead, he disappeared again. Both TBJ & TBJQ used their middle name of Butler frequently as their given name. CONSISTENT DESERTATION?? Shortly after the Justice children grew up & left home, TBJ took his wife & moved away without telling his children where he was moving. They found him because his wife (my grandmother) became very ill & a neighbor found out that she had children & sent them a letter to come because their mother was not expected to live. TBJ NEVER communicated with nor visited with the family he came from in NC and his wife & children never met any of them. If he was indeed TBJQ & deserted a wife & 4 children in NC, it is understandable that he would not want his Texas family to know about them. There are more "coincidences" that make me believe that TBJ & TBJQ are the same man. SOMEONE OUT THERE KNEW ENOUGH ABOUT THOMAS BUTLER QUEEN TO PUT THE NAME "JUSTICE" IN PARENTHESIS & I WOULD DEARLY LOVE TO COMMUNICATE WITH THEM & FIND OUT HOW THIS CAME TO BE. Any and All information would be greatly appreciated & I will share what I have about TBJ if there is any interest there. Thank you & Thank you also Gene Queen, Barbara (Justice) Powers * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * BOB & BARBARA POWERS www.bbpowers.com E-MAIL: b.bpowers@ttinational.net * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Gayle, I have not been able to find any proof as to what the S. in Nathan S. Queen's name stands for. His son, William Nathan, apparently never told his children what his grandfather's name was. He did say that he, William Nathan Queen had the same name as his grandfather and that his father, meaning Nathan S. Queen, had the same name as his grandfather. If my supposition is correct, that the father of Nathan S. Queen is William B. Queen, the son of Samuel Queen, then my grandfathers' statement would be correct, if the S. stood for Samuel. Any additonal information anyone could supply would be appreciated. Lee L. Gayle Cantrell wrote: > > Is the middle initial "S" confirmed as Samuel or possibly some other name? > Gayle > > -----Original Message----- > From: betty knight [mailto:bettyknight@hotmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 3:47 PM > To: QUEEN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [QUEEN] Introduction > > Lee Lamar write: > >>My mother Nannie Mae Queen came to Missouri from Haywood County, NC in > >1902, when she was 16 years of age along with her entire family. Her > >parents were William Nathan Queen, b. 1881 and Mary Lucinda Burnett, b. > >1866, both born near Pigeon River in Haywood County. The father of > >William Nathan Queen was Nathan or Nathaniel S. Queen, b.1826 and Martha > >Jane Rhodes, b 1829. > > > >Both are believed to have been born in Haywood County as it was > >constituted in the years before 1850, which then included what is now > >Jackson County. Nathan S. Queen was one of the Confederate soldiers

James, Thanks for your reply. I am sorry to be so slow, but had to go to Atlanta for a week. I was not aware of the Census information about Robert Henry Queen's mother living in his household in 1880. This puts a different light on it. Of course, we are aware that the census records are notorious for errors. However, this does not seem to be the kind of information that would be an error. I still believe there must be a close relationship between Nathan S. and Robert Henry, due to Nathan S. being the bondsman for Robert Henry's wedding. If they are not brothers, it would seem that the next logical supposition would be that they are first cousins. Thus, if Nathan S. is the son of William B. Queen, the S. might mean he was named for his grandfather, Samuel Queen. If Robert Henry Queen is a cousin of Nathan S. Queen, then he could be the son of either of the following: Henson and Visage Queen Harmon/Hiram and Mary "Polly" Brock Queen John R. and Mary "Polly" Coward Queen Lewis Queen and Sally ???? If the mother of Robert Henry Queen was named Mary, then it we could narrow our supposition down to either Harmon/Hiram and Mary Brock, or John R. and Mary Coward. It would appear that John R. and Mary Coward are the most logical of the two as candidates for the parents of Robert Henry, since Harmon/Hiram had three daughters, Jane, b. Dec 18, 1831; Hannah, b. abt. 1832; and Louisa b. about 1841. My records indicate that John R. Queen and Mary "Polly" Coward had three children, Nancy, b abt. 1828, John Lewis "Luke" Queen, b. June 19, 1830 and Martha, b. abt 1838. From this information, Robert Henry Queen, b. Oct 28, 1832 would certainly be able to fit. The question I now have, is when did Mary "Polly" Coward Queen died and where was she buried? I do not have this information. Can anyone help out with this information, or anything to prove or disprove this relationship? Lee L. "James B. Hardin" wrote: > > I have no reason to object to speculation that Nathan S. QUEEN is the son > of William B. "Billy" QUEEN and Mary NICHOLSON. The gap between Americus, > b. 1820 and Benjamin Nicholson, b. 1831 is, in the absence of "infant > graves" tied to William B. and Mary, is unbelievably long. > > However, I do not believe that Robert Henry QUEEN is the son of William B. > "Billy" QUEEN and Mary NICHOLSON because it has been stated that "His > mother Mary lived with him in 1880 age 86 (b.1794)." I have assumed, > perhaps incorrectly, that this statement was based on census information or > some other document. > > Mary Nicholson Queen died October 19, 1878 according to her tombstone in > the Sol's Creek Cemetery, Canada Twp., Jackson Co., NC. I do not recall any > challenge to the accuracy of this date in the past. > > James B. Hardin > > ==== QUEEN Mailing List ==== > Visit Reiley Kidd's homepg to view Queen information > compiled and catagorized by first name: > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Bluffs/2864/ > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

Peggy, Thanks for the reply. Sorry, I have taken so long to reply, but had to go to Atlanta for a week. The fact that the son of Robert H. Queen went to the Jackson County, area and married lends some credence to a relationship to the other Queens in the area. Hopefully, together those interested will be able to gather enough information to prove something more than we have at present. Lee L. Charles Mason wrote: > > Lee, > I so hope you are right about Nathan S. Queen and Robert H. Queen > being brothers - it all makes sense to me. I've always wondered - could > it be? I failed to proof read my message last night and I have an extra > g. Robert Henry Queen was my gg-grandfather. His son Thomas Baxter > Queen did not follow his father in the logging industry but came here to > Dillsboro (Jackson County) and married a local girl Sarah Jane Sutton. > His maternal grandparents Thomas and Jemima Franklin lived here and are > buried about two miles from my house. Tom and Jane Queen only had two > children: Allie Mae Queen who died when she was only 23, and my > grandfather Wesley Clingman Queen. My father was Claude Baxter Queen. > Peggy > > ==== QUEEN Mailing List ==== > Search for a Surname, GenConnect Family Association: Queen > http://surhelp-bin.rootsweb.com/srchsite.pl?site=88QUEEN > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog

Hi all, Couple of mysteries solved, but no additional links. The Stephen McBroom who is referred to in some footnotes dealing with Francis and James Queen and others is the son of Larry McBroom. Larry lives in Cookeville, TN and has been researching the McBroom family for many years. They were on the internet at mcbroom@multipro.com, but they are not on the internet at this time. We may have this data, but as Larry recalls, James McBroom (whom he calls the III) and James Queen "got into some trouble together" in East TN in 1804. He will pull his boxes out and get some data together - been out of it for a few years. Larry has not been able to make any links to the Queens, other than...like us... believes that the relationship was more than friendship. I will keep the list advised if any pertinent info develops. Gene

Hello everyone - Although I think I've already done this once, I am answering the request for new Queen-L subscribers to introduce themselves. Last December 1st, Carl E. Queen answered my original posting and helped me by pointing me in the right direction with some research. Thanks again, Carl. Please bear with me. I am new at this. I can go back four generations with basic information - as follows: 1. My father was WILLIAM H. QUEEN (4th), born 1909 in Philadelphia, PA and died 1964 in Little Rock, AR 2. His parents were WILLIAM H. QUEEN (HARRY) (3rd), born 1878 in Millville, NJ, and Myrtle McKenzie Strong. Harry died in 1938 in Atlantic City, NJ (?). Myrtle died in 1920 in Pleasantville, NJ. 3. His (Harry's) parents were WILLIAM H. QUEEN (2nd), born 1841 in Brooklyn, NY, and Eliza Steelman. William died in 1917 in Millville, NJ. Eliza died in 1934 in Millville, NJ. 4. William's parents were WILLIAM H. QUEEN (1st), born ? in ?, and Sarh J. ? Some family papers indicate that my Queen family came from IRELAND and with ancestors in NORTH CAROLINA, but I have not been able to document such connection. To my knowledge I am the sole survivor of my line with the exception of a few cousins whom I don't know (and don't even know where they are). I am certainly willing to share any information I have and I appreciate any I might receive. Any of my family out there? Gloria - gloriah4@juno.com

Well....I guess I'll come on out...! My Queens go back as far as John E. Queen in Perry Co. IL. I haven't been able to get past him. John E. Queen m. Mahalah Chandler 1834 both died June 22, 1842 (or 1849, tombstone is rough). They had at least 2 sons, John Morris Queen and Andrew Jackson Queen. My ggrandfather Andrew Jackson Queen had Allie Fair Queen, my grandmother, m. Andrew Boyd Rice, had my mother, Alice Belle Rice. I'm searching for information on the John E. Queen/Mahalah Chandler union at present. I'm pretty well set on anything between me and them. Anyone out there related? R Graf

Paul, Check the 1880 Clay County, NC Census - John Queen is living there in 1880 with his son Banks (wife Catherine is deceased) and there are several other Queen families living there (Jerry M. Queen, whom I believe may be a brother to your J.H. Queen). Vicky -----Original Message----- From: Paul Dunn [mailto:grogd@mindspring.com] Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 3:22 PM To: QUEEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [QUEEN] HENCE (HENSON) AND NANCY YORK QUEEN, RABUN CO GA 1840, 1850 Dear Fellow Queen Researchers: Not to bore you with my info again, but have two specific questions to put to the list in my quest: Does anyone know anything about the William Queen residing in Rabun Co GA in 1840 and 1850???? Must be a lead for me as my Hence (Henson) (born about 1823 per census in NC) and he are the only Queens listed in Rabun Co GA census for 1840. Then, widow Nancy York Queen (per censuses, born in TN) and children moved to Cherokee Co NC in 1859 or 1860 (moved back to be near family after her husband's death?) and lived near John (age 27) & Catherine Queen (said to be son of James C. Queen and maybe the parents of Banks Queen. Banks Queen and Hinsey Jonas Queen (son of Hence above) marry Martin sisters and move together to Cobb Co GA in late 1800s (are my Hence and Banks brothers, cousins????) William Queen, age 23, and wife Fanny (said also to be son of James C. Queen and brother to John above). Henson Queen, age 59, and wife Zilpha (about whom Queen researchers seem to know a lot, and who appears to be such a likely candidate for my Hence's father because of name, but sadly, researchers in this line know nothing of my Hence, and dates of my Hence's birth just don't seem to fit). Does anyone see a connection to my Hence or his widow, Nancy York Queen, in these Cherokee Co NC families????? Thanks, Paulette Willis Dunn Douglasville, GA ==== QUEEN Mailing List ==== Visit Reiley Kidd's homepg to view Queen information compiled and catagorized by first name: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Bluffs/2864/ ============================== Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2

The researcher I use just turned up the following documents on David Queen (son of Francis and Margaret Queen of Iredell Co, NC). Vicky Hutchings (1) State of North Carolina To the Sheriff of Alexander County - Greeting: You are Hereby Commanded, That of the Goods and Chattles, Lands and Tenements of David Queen decd in the hands of (blank) Laws Administrator if to be found in your County, you cause to be made the sum of (blank) which was lately in our Superior Court of Law, held for Alexander County, at the Court House in Taylorsville adjudged in the suit in which David Queen is plaintiff and J.F. Stephenson Deft besides the further sum of Five Dollars 35 cents for costs and charges in said suit expended, whereof the said David Queen is liable as appears to us of record. And have you the said monies, besides your fees for this service, before our Court at Taylorsville aforesaid, on the 6th Monday after the last Monday in February next, then and there to render the said Court the costs and charges aforesaid. Herein fail not, and have you then and there this Writ. Witness, E.M. Stevenson Clerk of our said Court, at Office, the 6th Monday after the last Monday in August, 1867 and in the 92 year of our Independence. Issued the 25 day of November A.D. 1867 Back of document notes: James F. Stephenson vs David Queen Fi Fa To Spring Term 1868 Nothing made administrator lives in Wilkes County (2) State of North Carolina Alexander County County Court Clerk's Office It having been made appear to us, the undersinged Magistrates of said County, That David Queen hath died since the last Court, possessed of Estate liable to waste and perish before the next Court, Special Administration on said Estate is therefore granted to Bentley Laws gave bond with S.B. Campbell as securities in $400, and qualified according to Law. Given under my hand and seal, the 10th day of August 1867 (3) Special Administrators Bond State of North Carolina, Alexander County Know all Men by These Presents, That we Bentley Laws & S.B. Campbell are held and firmly bound unto the State of North Carolina, in the just and full sum of four hundred Dollars, current money of said State, to the payment of which, well and truly to be made and done, we bind ourselves, our heirs, executors and administrators. Sealed with our seals and dated this 10th day of August A.D. 1867. The Condition of the above Obligation is Such, That Whereas the above bounden Bentley Laws has been this day, by three Justices of the Peace of the County of Alexander appointed Special Administrator of David Queen deceased - now therefore, if the said Bentley Laws shall faithfully administer the estate of the said deceased, until the next ensuing Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions, to be held for the County aforesaid, and shall faithfully account for and deliver the same to the person or persons who may be appointed to administer upon the estate of the said David Queen deceased; and shall further perform all the duties required of him by law, then the above Obligation shall be void; otherwise to remain in full force and virtue. Signed by: Bentley Laws, S.B. Campbell and A.M. Bogle (4) Administrators Bond - Alexander County, NC State of North Carolina (Blank) County Know all Men by these Presents, That we, Bentley Laws, A. Mayberry & J.W. Conley are held and firmly bound unto the State of North Carolina, in the sum of Four hundred Dollars, current money, to be paid to the said State of North Carolina; to the which payment well and truly to be made, we bind Ourselves, our Heirs, Executors and Administrators, jointly and severally, firmly by these presents. Sealed with our seals, and dated the 2 day of September 1867. The Condition of the above Obligation is such, That if the above bounden Bently Laws Administrator of all and singular the Goods and Chattels, Rights and Credits of David Queen, deceased, do make or cause to be made, a true and perfect inventory of all and singular the goods and chattels, rights and credits of the deceased, which have or may come to the hands, knowledge or possession of the said Bently Laws or into the hands or possession of any person or persons for his, and the same so made do exhibit, or cause to be exhibited in County Court, within the time prescribed by law, after the date of these presents; and the same goods, chattels and credits, and all other the goods, chattels and credits of the deceased, at the time of his death, or which at any time hereafter shall come into the hands or possession of the said B. Laws or into the hands or possession of any other person or persons for his do well and truly administer according to law: And further, do make, or cause to be made, a true and just account of his said administration, agreeably to law, after the date of these presents; and all the rest and residue of the said goods, chattels and credits, which shall be found remaining upon the said administrators account, (the same being first allowed by the Court,) shall deliver and pay unto such person or persons, respectively, as the same shall become due, pursuant to the true intent and meaning of the Act in that case made and provided - And if it shall appear that any Will or Testament was made by the deceased, and the Executor or Exeutors therein named do exhibit the same in Court, making request to have it allowed and approved of accordingly, if the said B. Laws above bounden, being thereunto required, do render and deliver the said Letters of Administration, (approbation of such Testament being first had and made in the said Court,) then this Obligation to be void; otherwise to remain in full force and virtue

Is the middle initial "S" confirmed as Samuel or possibly some other name? Gayle -----Original Message----- From: betty knight [mailto:bettyknight@hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 3:47 PM To: QUEEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [QUEEN] Introduction Lee Lamar write: >>My mother Nannie Mae Queen came to Missouri from Haywood County, NC in >1902, when she was 16 years of age along with her entire family. Her >parents were William Nathan Queen, b. 1881 and Mary Lucinda Burnett, b. >1866, both born near Pigeon River in Haywood County. The father of >William Nathan Queen was Nathan or Nathaniel S. Queen, b.1826 and Martha >Jane Rhodes, b 1829. > >Both are believed to have been born in Haywood County as it was >constituted in the years before 1850, which then included what is now >Jackson County. Nathan S. Queen was one of the Confederate soldiers that >were surrendered at Cumberland Gap during the Civil War, and sent to >Camp Douglas as a POW. He was in such poor condition that he did not >survive the trip home. He did manage to get almost home to his native >Haywood County, NC, making it to Greene County, TN, just across the >border, when he became too sick and his friends had to leave him there. >Martha Jane got there after he had died. (As a POW during World War II, >I have been particularly interested in this story). > >I do not know for sure who the father of Nathan S. might be, but have my >beliefs. I would appreciate anyone reading this if they would make any >comments for or against. Since some one said they wanted to try to tie >all the Haywood County Queens together, maybe this information will >help. Maybe I will obtain some good information in the process. > >Nathan S. Queen, b. 1826, was the bondsman for Robert Henry Queen, b. >1832, when he married Nancy Franklin in 1853, in Haywood Co. This would >strongly suggest that they were probably brothers. Where would two >brothers fit into a Queen family. The only place I can find that seems >to fit and be logical is as sons of William B. Queen, b. 1796 and Mary >Nicholson, b. about 1797. This would give us: > >William B. Queen, md. to Mary Nicholson >Lucinda Queen, b. 1818 Known >Americus H. Queen, b. 1820 Known >Nathan S. Queen, b. 1826 (????) >Rev. Benjamin Nicholson Queen, b.1831 Known >Robert Henry Queen, b. 1832 (????) >Dicey Queen, b.1834 Known >Hannah Queen, b. 1837 Known > >It appears to me that Nathan S. and Robert Henry Queen may have moved >over the mountain into the area that remained in Haywood when Jackson >County was formed, and thus few records that would be available to >confirm this. > >Does anyone know anything that might indicate this is incorrect, or >hopefully that would confirm it? >Thanks, Lee L. Lee, You may wish to check out the Queen Gen Forum at http://genforum.genealogy.com/queen/. Use the search engine at the top left corner and put in the name “Nathan” and this reveal all postings for Nathan. Entry #298, posted 2/5/00, refers you to the following link for surnames. http://members.nbci.com/GerowFamily/index.html Under surname Queen, Nathaniel S. Queen’s father is listed as Walter Brown Queen; click on Walter Brown Queen’s name and shows his father as Samuel Queen/DiceyRolls. You may wish to contact the owner of the list for further details/verification. Hope this help you, Betty Knight > > >==== QUEEN Mailing List ==== >GenConnect at Rootsweb >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Queen > >============================== >Search over 900 million names at Ancestry.com! >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Lee Lamar write: >>My mother Nannie Mae Queen came to Missouri from Haywood County, NC in >1902, when she was 16 years of age along with her entire family. Her >parents were William Nathan Queen, b. 1881 and Mary Lucinda Burnett, b. >1866, both born near Pigeon River in Haywood County. The father of >William Nathan Queen was Nathan or Nathaniel S. Queen, b.1826 and Martha >Jane Rhodes, b 1829. > >Both are believed to have been born in Haywood County as it was >constituted in the years before 1850, which then included what is now >Jackson County. Nathan S. Queen was one of the Confederate soldiers that >were surrendered at Cumberland Gap during the Civil War, and sent to >Camp Douglas as a POW. He was in such poor condition that he did not >survive the trip home. He did manage to get almost home to his native >Haywood County, NC, making it to Greene County, TN, just across the >border, when he became too sick and his friends had to leave him there. >Martha Jane got there after he had died. (As a POW during World War II, >I have been particularly interested in this story). > >I do not know for sure who the father of Nathan S. might be, but have my >beliefs. I would appreciate anyone reading this if they would make any >comments for or against. Since some one said they wanted to try to tie >all the Haywood County Queens together, maybe this information will >help. Maybe I will obtain some good information in the process. > >Nathan S. Queen, b. 1826, was the bondsman for Robert Henry Queen, b. >1832, when he married Nancy Franklin in 1853, in Haywood Co. This would >strongly suggest that they were probably brothers. Where would two >brothers fit into a Queen family. The only place I can find that seems >to fit and be logical is as sons of William B. Queen, b. 1796 and Mary >Nicholson, b. about 1797. This would give us: > >William B. Queen, md. to Mary Nicholson >Lucinda Queen, b. 1818 Known >Americus H. Queen, b. 1820 Known >Nathan S. Queen, b. 1826 (????) >Rev. Benjamin Nicholson Queen, b.1831 Known >Robert Henry Queen, b. 1832 (????) >Dicey Queen, b.1834 Known >Hannah Queen, b. 1837 Known > >It appears to me that Nathan S. and Robert Henry Queen may have moved >over the mountain into the area that remained in Haywood when Jackson >County was formed, and thus few records that would be available to >confirm this. > >Does anyone know anything that might indicate this is incorrect, or >hopefully that would confirm it? >Thanks, Lee L. Lee, You may wish to check out the Queen Gen Forum at http://genforum.genealogy.com/queen/. Use the search engine at the top left corner and put in the name “Nathan” and this reveal all postings for Nathan. Entry #298, posted 2/5/00, refers you to the following link for surnames. http://members.nbci.com/GerowFamily/index.html Under surname Queen, Nathaniel S. Queen’s father is listed as Walter Brown Queen; click on Walter Brown Queen’s name and shows his father as Samuel Queen/DiceyRolls. You may wish to contact the owner of the list for further details/verification. Hope this help you, Betty Knight > > >==== QUEEN Mailing List ==== >GenConnect at Rootsweb >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Queen > >============================== >Search over 900 million names at Ancestry.com! >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Jerry wrote: Hi Group! > Realize this probably has been posted/sent to all concerned, but - >since I started this drive on Burke County, NC, might as well take in >all the scenery >which might help out. > Found in "Rutherford County, North Carolina Wills and Miscellaneous >Records, 1783-1868," James and Vivian Wooley, Southern Historical Press, >1984." (Book page 75..) quote: >"page 53, 17 March 1823. Recorded April Court 1826: > >I, Henson Queen, of Burke Co., N.C. being weak in body but of perfect >mind & memory, I give to my wife, Sarah Queen, two negroes named Dick >and Landon, all my working tools and farm tools, household furniture >during her life time, at her death the negroes I will to my son, John >Queen. I will to my dtr, Sarah Queen, my negro woman named Seal. I >will to my dtr Ruth Upton, $50, I will to my dtr, Jane Johnston, $50, I >will to my dtr, Caty Hicks, $50, I will to my dtr, Seley Caster, $50, I >will to my son William, $50. I will to my son John Queen, all my >household furniture & farming tools, I further appoint John Queen my >executor. > Wit: D. Glass, Jurat > F. P. Glass, Jurat >Signed by mark, >Henson Queen > >end quote > >If this has been posted and discussed previously, my apologies. But I >thought it interesting the surnames of the daughters! Now to find their > >marriages. And, yes, the book was Rutherford County, while Henson >stated he lived in Burke! Go figure. Regards, Jerry Jerrry and Group: I found the below message No. 91 posted by Bob Godfrey, 5 Jan 99, on Union Co Gen Forum and will post since it is relevant to the will you posted for Henson Queen and family. http://genforum.genealogy.com/queen/ I am also interested because many of the Uptons married into the Brackett family. In particular, I think the Ruth Queen Upton that Henson mentions in the will, could be the same as is found Shirley Adair's book,("Benjamin Brackett of the Carolinas". ..."Thomas Upton (1762- Dec 1833) m. 20 Aug 1789 Ruth Hambee: Marriage Bond 000136445, Bondsmen: Wm. Monroe, Wm Queen, Wit. Isaac Whiteside. Thomas Upton's will 1833 names wife Ruth Upton Rutherford CO, NC Will Abstract#855." I believe that I have seen reference to Ruth Queen Hambee. Did Mr. Hambee die and she marry Thomas Upton? Why was Henson not the bondsman and William Queen was? or could William be Wm. Henson? The message on Union Gen Forum follows: Take care, Betty Knight Msg No. 91 as ref. above: 1. Timothy MacQueen b. @1700, m. Jane Henson. Timothy died 21-Jul-1725, Prince Georges Co. MD. Children: 2. i William Queen b. 19-Aug-1716. Second Generation 2. William Queen b. 19-Aug-1716, Prince Georges Co., MD, m. Margaret Lewis, b. @1720, d. @1795. William died 05-Oct-1793, Rutherford Co. NC. Wm and Margaret came to Bladen Co., NC from VA before 1753. By 1770 he had sold most of his land and moved to Wilkes Co. GA. By 1783 he had moved back to Rutherford Co. NC. He bought land in Rutheford Co. in 1788 & in 1799 bought 50 acres on First Broad in Golden Valley. Children: 3. i Henson Queen b. ~1745. ii Timothy Queen m. 15-Aug-1793, in Rutherford Co. NC, Sarah White. iii Margaret Queen m. 14-Apr-1791, in Rutherford Co. NC, John McFarlin. 4. iv William L. Queen b. ~1749. 5. v Thomas Queen b. @1753. vi Rebecca Queen m. Stephen Houge, b. @1759, NC, d. 1845. 6. vii Samuel Queen b. @1759. Third Generation 3. Henson Queen b. ~1745, VA, m. in NC, Sarah Hampton. Henson died 17-Mar-1823, Burke Co. NC. Information from Mrs. Stevie Powell, 840 Pinecrest Dr., Bartow FL 33830-3043 Anson Co. Deed Abstracts and tax Lists 1757-1763. State Census 1784-1787. Early NC Vol 1 1600-1789,1791-1799. Anson Co. Deed Abstracts 1749-1757. 1823 Will of Henson Queen. "Tax list and other Sources". Children: 7. i John Queen b. ~1769. ii Sarah Queen Proctor b. VA, m. Reubin Proctor. Sarah Married, Reuben Proctor. iii Ruth Queen Upton m. Thomas Upton. Ruth Married, Thomas Upton. iv Jane Queen Johnston Married, ______ Johnston. v Cathy Queen Hicks. vi Sally Queen Carter m. Jiles Carter. Sally Married, Jiles Carter 14-Jan-1806. vii William Queen b. ~1795, m. Mary Ann Patton, b. @1798. William Married, Ann Patton 2-Aug-1827. Mary: Anns Parents, Robert Patton (1748-1813, McDowell CO, NC) and Elizabeth Dysart. He was a Capt. in Rev. War and was in the battle at Kins Mountain. 4. William L. Queen b. ~1749, VA, m. Mary Orr. William died 1835, NC , ~Macon Co. Children: i Joseph H. Queen b. @1794, m. Ursula Jones. ii James Queen m. Sarah Jones. iii Moses queen m. Jane Newton. iv Meredith Queen. v William L. Queen, Jr m. Margaret Orr. vi Virginia Queen m. Josuah Hall. 5. Thomas Queen b. @1753, Anson Co. NC, m. Elizabeth __________. Thomas died 15-Mar-1845, Madison County, AL. Children: i Margaret Queen m. Michael Butler. ii Nancy queen m. Andrew Bain. iii John Queen. iv James Queen. 6. Samuel Queen b. @1759, NC, m. Dicey rolls. Samuel died 22-Aug-1842, Union Co. GA., Served in Rev. Wr. Children: i Henson Queen m. Visage _____________. ii Nancy queen m. Sam P. Carson. iii Sallie Queen m. Allen Broom. iv William B. Queen b. 24-May-1796, m. Mary Nicholson. William died 27-Jan-1887, Jackson Co. NC. v Harmon Queen b. @1800, m. Mary Brock. vi John R. queen b. @1803, m. Mary Coward. John died 05-Mar-1883. vii Lewis Queen b. @1805, m. 21-May-1844 (2), Sarah ______ (1) Sally Palmer (2). Fourth Generation 7. John Queen b. ~1769, NC, m. 28-Jan-1804, in NC, Mary Burton. Information: 1783-1868 Rutherford Co. Wills Will book D Pg. 53. (Henson's will). "NC tax lists and other Sources". John md. 2nd Mary Campbell 30-Apr-1816, in Maury Co. TN. Children: 8. i Hannah Jane Queen b. 1805. ii Henson Queen b. 1812, md. Zelpha, Glass. iii John W. Queen b. 1816, Burke Co. NC, md. Martha, Hickey. Fifth Generation 8. Hannah Jane Queen b. 1805, Rutherford Co. NC, m. ~1820, Joseph McKinley Clements, b. 16-Feb-1790, Rutherford Co. NC, (son of Cornelius Clements and Susannah Goforth) d. ~1868, Fannin Co. Ga. Hannah died 2-Nov-1886?, Fannin Co. Ga. Joseph: Information from: Joseph Clements Will. Family Records, 1850 Union Co. GA Census. 1860-1870 Fannin Co. Census. Will of Cornelius Clements, Joseph's father. Book "Facets of Fannin" by Curtis Media Corp 1989. Children: i Humphery Posey Clements b. 12-Feb-1830, Macon Co. NC, m. ~1850, in Union Co. GA., Margaret Tanner, b. 30-Sep-1832, Macon Co. NC, (daughter of George Tanner and Unknown Tanner) d. 8-Apr-1885, Polk Co. TN, buried: Grassy Creek Cemetery Polk Co. TN. Humphery died 16-Feb-1908, Polk Co. TN, buried: Greasy Creek Cemetery Polk Co. TN. Information from: Book "Facets of Fannin". 1850 census of Union Co, 1860 Fannin Co. Census. Family records of Edith Williams of Copperhill TN. Humphery served in the Civil War, 65th GA Inf. CSA. ii Jane (Jincy) Clements b. 28-Dec-1821, d. 1916, buried: Parris Cemetery, Jackson Co. Nc, Husbands, James A. Hall-Nathan Allen. iii John Queen Clements b. 25-Sept-1823, NC, m. Martesia Turpin. John died Arkansas. John Queen was born 25-Sept-1825 (Family records of Joseph Clements) while John A. Clements was born May 1820 (Tombstone inscription reads Died Oct 5th, 1861, age 41 y'rs 7 mo's, 6 days. These have to have been 2 different people. iv Lucy Clements b. 29-Sept-1825, NC, d. 1914, Fannin Co. Ga, buried: Shelton Cemetery, Married, William Mulkey (1854). v Sussanah (Selima) Clements b. 23-Nov-1827, NC, d. 1889, Old Savannah Cem., Jackson Co. NC, Married, Andrew Dills-James Buchanan. vi Cornelius Clements b. 24-Jun-1832, NC, d. 1865, did not return from the War, Married, Nancy O'Dell. vii Dorthy E. clements b. 11-Nov-1834, NC, d. 1931, Dawson Co. GA, Married, John M. Chastain. viii Joseph Milburn Clements b. 16-Mar-1837. ix Talitha Caroline Clements b. 22-May-1839, d. 1914, buried: Dietz Cemetery, Jackson Co. NC, Married, Charles Buchanan (1866). x Zelphia L. Clements b. 17-Apr-1841, d. 1900, Fannin Co. Ga, buried: Brawley Cem. xi Andrew Cranton Clements b. 8-Jun-1843, d. 1905, Murray Co. GA, buried: Eaton Cemetery. xii Margaret Clements b. 24-Jul-1844, d. 1920, Union Co. GA., buried: Mt. Pleasant Cem. xiii Zachariah T. Clements b. 1848, d. 1892, Fannin Co. Ga, buried: Sugar Hill Cem. >> > >==== QUEEN Mailing List ==== >Visit Carol's homepg to view old Queen documents: >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Estates/6587/Qdoc.html > >============================== >Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: >Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. >http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

...my poor memory and for not keeping up with all you fine researchers, but I KNOW I've seen some mention about translation of some OLD [handwritten] records which raises the question of whether the name was QUEEN or GREEN. Here is an excerpt from another list. I know it's remote, but does anybody recognize these names? If so, I'll "connect" you with the author. "...searched for the parents of John GREEN born 1 sept 1797. Married Aletha McKinney 20 Dec.1819 , Rutherford County N.C. They were the parents of ten children. I have some informtion..." Gayle

I presume this COULD include posthumous remains IF one had access...a rather unpleasant, but fascinating thought. Gayle -----Original Message----- From: betty knight [mailto:bettyknight@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 4:16 AM To: QUEEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [QUEEN] Fwd: DNA Project Mandy and everyone, I hope this is alright to forward regarding DNA testing. I thought it was interesting. If it is inappropriate, please let me know. Maybe if Gene drinks a couple of more Mellow Yellow it will go for it. (joke>>) Betty Brackett Knight (with one lost GGgrandma, Mary Queen, bc1824,NC) >From: FaberCove@aol.com >To: bettyknight@hotmail.com, efavre@linknet.net, JUPEP@aol.com >Subject: Walker DNA Project >Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 19:00:35 EST >_ > > >Hi Walker Researchers...... > >If you've been keeping up with the latest news in the genealogical >community, >then you've probably heard about DNA and its promise for genealogy. Now, a >number of DNA testing facilities have made it possible and affordable for >those interested in establishing -- or disproving -- a paternal link >between >individuals with a common surname. > >One firm I have contacted (GeneTree, Inc.) can analyze and compare 12 >different systems on the Y-chromosome between members who have an unbroken >male lineage. This is because the Y-chromosome is passed, for example, >from >gg-grandfather to g-grandfather to grandfather to father to son, and on and >on. Therefore, if your gg-grandfather had a brother, who had a son, who >had >a son, who had a son, who had a son, this son would be your 4th cousin. >And >if tradition has held strong through the generations, you should also share >the same Surname. Additionally, if the biological relationship holds >strong, >then you should also share the same Y-chromosome (only males have a >Y-chromosome). If a Y-chromosome analysis indicates a match then it >supports >the claim that you are both from the same common male ancestor in an >unbroken >lineage. If the Y-chomosomes do not closely match it would indicate that >the >relationship is not possible. > >There is also a corresponding mtDNA test for maternally-linked females that >would substantiate or disprove a common maternally-linked female ancestor. >Mothers pass their mtDNA to both male and female children. However, it >stops >with the male children and only passes on down through the daughters. > >I would like to invite an open discussion among us to try to generate >enough >interest to undertake a study like this. I am working with another Walker >descendant (from another line) who is recruiting members of her extended >Walker group for a similar anaylis. She plans on opening the project up to >as many Walkers as will participate. All Walkers would benefit from a >study >like this. > >The testing lab would send out specimen collection kits which involves a >painless use of a swab to collect a small amount of cells containing DNA >from >the inside of a person's cheek. The discounted price of approximately $170 >each is being offered for participants in groups of 20 or more for a >Y-chromosome test of the paternally-linked living male descendant of your >WALKER line. You will receive the results. The lab will maintain a >database >of results as well for matching purposes as more and more studies are done. >If you are a female, maybe you have a brother or a male first cousin from >your Walker family available to be tested. > >My brother, a living paternally-linked descendant of Stephen Walker b 1782, >is available for Y-chromosome and mtDNA testing from my line. > >There is a down side to the testing. It can't tell you degree of >relationship; only that you do or do not share a common ancestor. Also, >you >could get disappointing information, such as a broken link which would >suggest an unreported adoption or other non-paternal event in your line. >However, even if this were so, I would rather know the truth. But it >should >always be considered as a possiblility. > >Hopefully, a project like this could narrow our research focus by at least >eliminating some lines. The more WALKER participants we have, the better >the >chance of enough results for comparison. > >If you would like to find out more about ongoing family surname projects, >there are several websites. The results are in on the MUMMA surname >project. > >http://www.mumma.org/DNA.htm (Mumma Family) > >http://www.genetree.com (testing laboratory) >http://www.familytreedna.com/ (another testing lab) > >Please let me know what you think! >Suzanne Hallstrom >fabercove@aol.com > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

How does one "place" a census household number on a present-day map? Thanks! Gayle Phillips Cantrell gpcantrell@home.com What's my line? SURNAMES: Arve/Arvey Beauchamp Burnett Byrd Bryson Caler Cloer Gregg Hampton Hester Hickey Hicks Hobgood Lakey McGaha/McGaughey Null Phillips Queen Sexton Shope/Shupe Simonds Spurlin/Spurling/Sperling Stewart Tippett Weza

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Hi Group! Realize this probably has been posted/sent to all concerned, but - since I started this drive on Burke County, NC, might as well take in all the scenery which might help out. Found in "Rutherford County, North Carolina Wills and Miscellaneous Records, 1783-1868," James and Vivian Wooley, Southern Historical Press, 1984." (Book page 75..) quote: "page 53, 17 March 1823. Recorded April Court 1826: I, Henson Queen, of Burke Co., N.C. being weak in body but of perfect mind & memory, I give to my wife, Sarah Queen, two negroes named Dick and Landon, all my working tools and farm tools, household furniture during her life time, at her death the negroes I will to my son, John Queen. I will to my dtr, Sarah Queen, my negro woman named Seal. I will to my dtr Ruth Upton, $50, I will to my dtr, Jane Johnston, $50, I will to my dtr, Caty Hicks, $50, I will to my dtr, Seley Caster, $50, I will to my son William, $50. I will to my son John Queen, all my household furniture & farming tools, I further appoint John Queen my executor. Wit: D. Glass, Jurat F. P. Glass, Jurat Signed by mark, Henson Queen end quote If this has been posted and discussed previously, my apologies. But I thought it interesting the surnames of the daughters! Now to find their marriages. And, yes, the book was Rutherford County, while Henson stated he lived in Burke! Go figure. Regards, Jerry