I can extend my sympathies, being a female in high school with the surname BEAVER was no picnic either!! Carol ---- Begin Original Message ---- From: "Charlton Queen" <safetydude@mindspring.com> Sent: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 22:12:09 -0500 To: QUEEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [QUEEN] How to confuse future generations of Genealogists Donald, I can certainly understand your son's feelings about teasing in school.  I'm thirty years old and still get remarks from the guys I work with Don't let another child be hurt by ignorance. Educate yourself and your children about Tourette Syndrome. www.tsa-usa.org http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife!

Hi Don and Charlton, You men are just too nice. How I respond to the question/statement these days just can't be printed here! Gene

Donald, I can certainly understand your son's feelings about teasing in school. I'm thirty years old and still get remarks from the guys I work with. However, I have found that launching into a full blown explanation of our family changing our name to escape persecution etc. is a pretty effective way of taking the butt out of the joke. After a lengthy genealogy lecture most folks begin to look elsewhere for office comedy.......8) Best of luck with the new 'prefix', Charlton Queen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donald Queen" <donqueen@Inreach.com> To: <QUEEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 10:01 PM Subject: [QUEEN] How to confuse future generations of Genealogists > I have 3 sons, all of them a bit strange, but this one wins the prize ! > > My 2nd son (the troubled middle child) has changed the name of his entire > family - legally ...... > > His family is expecting their 3rd child and since he did not want this new > son to bear the burden of teasing in school because our last name has a > feminine meaning, he went to court and changed it to MacQueen. > > He swears that he did it based upon my research into the family genealogy. > > I don't quite know what to think. I'm delighted to have another grandson and > I guess adding a Mac is no different than dropping one 300 years ago, but > how do I explain this to my Family Tree program ? > > Don Queen > > > ==== QUEEN Mailing List ==== > Queen info pg. Message boards, family crest info, > other Queen links, etc. > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Bluffs/5932/queen.html > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library >

Mandy, I have a copy of the book from Amazon - although $16 is a bit for the size of the book, the info has helped me at least make an educated guess regarding the year (range) specific photos have been taken. This is not a recommend/not recommend type message, just that I have it, I have used the info, it does help somewhat. Regards, Jerry.

Hi listmates, I'm not back 100%. Can't sit at the computer for very long periods but I'm getting my strength back. Thank you soooooo much to each of you who have inquired as to my surgery and recovery. It is greatly appreciated and uplifting. Thanks to those who've prayed for me also. That's the biggest uplifting of all. I hope to be back in full swing in a couple of weeks and can't wait to get back to genealogy! Just had a second on amazon and because I bought a book on scrapbooking once they have this neat way of tracking what you like and they recommended that I check this book out. When I read it I thought WOW, what a great book. It states that it can help you figure out from your ancestors photos the dates and such by their attire and more. Any of you seen this book? Think it's worth the $16.00? www.amazon.com Then go to search book and put in this book and author. Uncovering Your Ancestry Through Family Photographs by <A HREF="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/index=books%26field-author=Taylor%2C%20Maureen%20A./104-5269195-3979103">Maureen A. Taylor</A> Sincerely, Mandy

In response to Don's question: I'm not within shouting distance of the cemetery, but could put it on my "to do" list. With only 2 marked graves from the early 1800's, I'm guessing that it has not been kept up, thus would probably need to take a leaf rake among other items. Has anyone on this list visited the cemetery? Please respond if you have and can share any additional info. I certainly don't mind making the trip....actually look forward to it....but no need to spin wheels if someone else already has done the leg work. It appears to be about 2.5-3.0 hrs from the place I hang my hat. Thanks, Gene

Hi Charlton, I do exactly the same thing when some clod thinks that my name is funny. I look him in the eye and say " my Great Grandfather fought in the Civil War with Davis' Dragoons in the 3rd N.C. Cavalry and his great grandfather fought with the Georgia Rangers on the Continental Line in the Rev. War, what did your ancestors do ?" That shuts them up instantly. Having a name like Queen is a great way to learn who the jerks in the world are. I once had an East Indian desk clerk (with her unpronounceable name on a lapel tag) tell me that I had a funny name. You should have been there, it was a thing of beauty. When I got done with her she was ready to move back to Bombay. Don (Now and Forever) Queen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlton Queen" <safetydude@mindspring.com> To: "Donald Queen" <donqueen@Inreach.com>; <QUEEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 7:12 PM Subject: Re: [QUEEN] How to confuse future generations of Genealogists > Donald, > > I can certainly understand your son's feelings about teasing in school. I'm > thirty years old and still get remarks from the guys I work with. However, > I have found that launching into a full blown explanation of our family > changing our name to escape persecution etc. is a pretty effective way of > taking the butt out of the joke. After a lengthy genealogy lecture most > folks begin to look elsewhere for office comedy.......8) > > Best of luck with the new 'prefix', > > Charlton Queen > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Donald Queen" <donqueen@Inreach.com> > To: <QUEEN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 10:01 PM > Subject: [QUEEN] How to confuse future generations of Genealogists > > > > I have 3 sons, all of them a bit strange, but this one wins the prize ! > > > > My 2nd son (the troubled middle child) has changed the name of his entire > > family - legally ...... > > > > His family is expecting their 3rd child and since he did not want this new > > son to bear the burden of teasing in school because our last name has a > > feminine meaning, he went to court and changed it to MacQueen. > > > > He swears that he did it based upon my research into the family genealogy. > > > > I don't quite know what to think. I'm delighted to have another grandson > and > > I guess adding a Mac is no different than dropping one 300 years ago, but > > how do I explain this to my Family Tree program ? > > > > Don Queen > > > > > > ==== QUEEN Mailing List ==== > > Queen info pg. Message boards, family crest info, > > other Queen links, etc. > > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Bluffs/5932/queen.html > > > > ============================== > > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library > > >

I have 3 sons, all of them a bit strange, but this one wins the prize ! My 2nd son (the troubled middle child) has changed the name of his entire family - legally ...... His family is expecting their 3rd child and since he did not want this new son to bear the burden of teasing in school because our last name has a feminine meaning, he went to court and changed it to MacQueen. He swears that he did it based upon my research into the family genealogy. I don't quite know what to think. I'm delighted to have another grandson and I guess adding a Mac is no different than dropping one 300 years ago, but how do I explain this to my Family Tree program ? Don Queen

Hi, How would I go about getting the estate papers for Nathan S. Queen, without traveling to Haywood County? I would appreciate any assistance anyone could provide. Apparently, his estate was settled in Haywood County, even though he died in June, 1865 in Greene County, TN on the way home from the POW camp near Chicago. I have read that in Dec, 1867 term of court, his widow petitioned for some maintenance funds from his estate. I am trying to establish proof of who his parents were. Much circumstantial evidence indicates it probably is William B. Queen and Mary Nicholson, but I have no positive proof. Nathan S. Queen was Bondsman for the marriage of Robert Henry Queen and Nancy E. Franklin. An older brother of Nancy, Henry J. Franklin was granted Letters of Administration for the estate of Nathan S. Queen, when he died while trying to get home after his POW experience. This would indicate some kind of close relationship between Robert Henry Queen and Nathan S. Queen. What might it be? As a World War II POW, I would like to find out all I can about my ggrandfather, Nathan S. Queen and would appreciate any help. Lee L.

Hi All, I thought I would pass on some info given to me by a professional genealogist who had given a lecture. What brought it to mind was Phil Minch's discussion of estate sales. The lecturer said that "look closely at those who purchased items at estate sales. They are most likely and almost always close relative." So, I would take the fact that WAQ was a buyer at James' estate to indicate that he was related. Of course, it would be nice to have more documents that would back up that fact. Another fact that the lecturer presented was that "when a will states that a person was the deceased's 'good friend', the term is used to indicate that the person referred to was either a step child or in law." I wish I knew more about the intricasies of the law, especially the law in that time frame. carol "Where there is no vision, the people perish" Proverbs:29:18 <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> QUEENSCASTLE BRANCHES AND BOUGHS http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegaleire Homepage/Donegal, Ireland, Poland & Russia Information http://www.geocities.com/postalq Home of Donegal, Ireland Information Site Also Poland & Russia

I have been recovering my family tree from a thousand scraps of paper following loss of the computer file where it was neatly arranged. This is my line as far as I trust it. 1. William Allen Queen, Sr. (c1804-aft 1870) m. Myrum or Mira Wilkerson 2. William Allen Queen, Jr. (c1835-1915) m. 12/6/60 Loucinda Rucker (1/2/1836-2/18/1908) 3. Aden Rucker Queen (12/22/1867-1/14/1944) m. Martha Rowena Watkins (11/10/1869-8/5/1944) 4. Mardey Cleveland Queen (1890 - 1962) m. Dora Adelaide Smart (11/17/1890-10/17/1979) 5. Elma Gladys Queen (9-29-1919-7/16/1989) m. 6/3/1945 Virgil Adelbert Minch (12/24/1923-) 6. Phiilp Alan Minch (4/23/1953-) I would like to find WAQ, Sr. parents. I have been told he is a son of James Queen of 1777, but have no documentation. I have seen his name on a list of Queen's and others purchasing items from the estate of James Queen, but don't know how to interpret that. Any help? --Phil Minch--

It would be wonderful to actually search the grounds and see if there is any evidence of the grave of Old William. Does anyone live within shouting distance of this cemetery and could do a bit of exploring with a camera?. I'm paying annually to maintain the grave site of Jamason Queen in Lincolnton, N.C. I'm sure we could get a fund together to maintain Old William's grave. He was afterall, the first Queen to enter the Carolinas and we are doubt all descended from him. Don Queen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Philip Minch" <raven306@infi.net> To: <QUEEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 3:23 PM Subject: [QUEEN] Is this where Old William is buried? > I was looking around Bill Floyd's Rutherford County Cemeteries website > today, (I do it often) and found this listed in a group of small cemeteries. > > HOGUE FAMILY CEMETERY > This cemetery is located in the Golden Valley section of Rutherford County > about 3 miles west of the First Broad Baptist Church. It is situated on the > northwest side of Highway # 226 about 2/10 mile off the highway, and the > plot contains some 12 to 15 graves with only 2 of them marked. > Hogue, Rebecca, Died 29 Aug 1830 in her 72nd year. > Hogue, Stephen, died 1802 in his 45th year. > > I seem to recall that the Hogues were buried in the same place as Old > William, since Rebecca is his daughter. > > --Phil Minch-- > > > ==== QUEEN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from Queen-L: > Send an email to Queen-L-request@rootsweb.com with the word unsubscribe > in the body of the letter. Same for D list. Just substitute the D for the L. > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com >

From: "O Eugene Queen" <EQueen@lexcominc.net> Subject: Re: [QUEEN] FW: [NCBurke] Quinn/Queen Willis Houck/Houk Pruitt Jones > The census index I use includes the following HH for Burke: > > 1840: > 0 Queen > 0 Quin > Quinn, Wm I was specifically looking for William Allen Queen, Sr., but was hoping to see more Queens. WAQ shows up in the Rutherford Co 1830 and 1860 censuses, but gets lost in between. Since WAQ, Jr. gets married in McDowell and he and his children later show up in Montford's Cove near the McDowell line, I was hoping to see him just north of Rutherford Co. --Phil Minch--

I was looking around Bill Floyd's Rutherford County Cemeteries website today, (I do it often) and found this listed in a group of small cemeteries. HOGUE FAMILY CEMETERY This cemetery is located in the Golden Valley section of Rutherford County about 3 miles west of the First Broad Baptist Church. It is situated on the northwest side of Highway # 226 about 2/10 mile off the highway, and the plot contains some 12 to 15 graves with only 2 of them marked. Hogue, Rebecca, Died 29 Aug 1830 in her 72nd year. Hogue, Stephen, died 1802 in his 45th year. I seem to recall that the Hogues were buried in the same place as Old William, since Rebecca is his daughter. --Phil Minch--

The census index I use includes the following HH for Burke: 1840: 0 Queen 0 Quin Quinn, Moses Quinn, Sol Quinn, Wm Quinse, Jas 1850: Queen, Alfred Queen, Hamilton Queen, Solomon 0 Quin Quinn, Jameson Gene Philip Minch wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gayle Cantrell" <gpcantrell@home.com> > To: <QUEEN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 4:21 PM > Subject: [QUEEN] FW: [NCBurke] Quinn/Queen Willis Houck/Houk Pruitt Jones > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Doris Simmons [mailto:dewsimmons@juno.com] > > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 6:16 PM > > To: NCBURKE-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [NCBurke] Quinn/Queen Willis Houck/Houk Pruitt Jones > > > > Looking for contacts for the names of Quinn/Queen, Willis, Houck/Houk, > > Pruitt, and Jones in the Burke County area. These people migrated towards > > Cleveland, Gaston, and Mecklenburg counties. The dates are around the > 1850's > > to the early 1900's. > > I was just wondering today if anyone had 1840 or 1850 Burke County census > information on Queens. I think one of my Queens may have been there at that > time. > > --Phil Minch-- > > ==== QUEEN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from Queen-L: > Send an email to Queen-L-request@rootsweb.com with the word unsubscribe > in the body of the letter. Same for D list. Just substitute the D for the L. > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

----- Original Message ----- From: "Gayle Cantrell" <gpcantrell@home.com> To: <QUEEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 4:21 PM Subject: [QUEEN] FW: [NCBurke] Quinn/Queen Willis Houck/Houk Pruitt Jones > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Doris Simmons [mailto:dewsimmons@juno.com] > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 6:16 PM > To: NCBURKE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NCBurke] Quinn/Queen Willis Houck/Houk Pruitt Jones > > Looking for contacts for the names of Quinn/Queen, Willis, Houck/Houk, > Pruitt, and Jones in the Burke County area. These people migrated towards > Cleveland, Gaston, and Mecklenburg counties. The dates are around the 1850's > to the early 1900's. I was just wondering today if anyone had 1840 or 1850 Burke County census information on Queens. I think one of my Queens may have been there at that time. --Phil Minch--

-----Original Message----- From: Doris Simmons [mailto:dewsimmons@juno.com] Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 6:16 PM To: NCBURKE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NCBurke] Quinn/Queen Willis Houck/Houk Pruitt Jones Posted on: Burke County, NC Queries Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/USA/NC/Burke/12531 Surname: Quinn, Willis, Houck, Pruitt, Jones ------------------------- Looking for contacts for the names of Quinn/Queen, Willis, Houck/Houk, Pruitt, and Jones in the Burke County area. These people migrated towards Cleveland, Gaston, and Mecklenburg counties. The dates are around the 1850's to the early 1900's. ______________________________

Hi All, I just wanted to let everyone know that Mandy is home from the hospital. She is doing great. At the present, she is unable to remain at the computer for more than a few minutes at a time before she gets uncomfortable, so it will be a few more days until she gets back on the list. She was so very thankful for all of the prayers and well wishes. Carol "Where there is no vision, the people perish" Proverbs:29:18 <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> QUEENSCASTLE BRANCHES AND BOUGHS http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegaleire Homepage/Donegal, Ireland, Poland & Russia Information http://www.geocities.com/postalq Home of Donegal, Ireland Information Site Also Poland & Russia

1850 Rabun Co Census portion now online. This entry on page 325 http://www.rootsweb.com/~garabun/census/1850/1850.html Rabun Co., GA was created on December 21, 1819 from lands ceded by the Cherokee Nation and from part of Habersham Co., GA. It was named after William Rabun, who served as the 11th Governor of Georgia from his election in 1817 until his death in 1819. The county seat, Clayton, was incorporated on December 13, 1823 and was named after the first Judge of the Superior Court in Rabun County, the Honorable Augustus S. Clayton, who later became a Congressman. In 1856, Towns Co., GA was created from parts of Rabun and Union Counties. 147 Queen Henci 27 m Farmer 100 NC Nancy A. 22 f TN Jerry S. 4 m Mary A. 2 f _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Thanks Betty Knight for the information from 1850 Rabun Co GA census on Henci (sometimes listed Hence, sometimes Hence) and Nancy A. York Queen. My husband's gggrandparents, a brickwall for me. Helps confirm their states of birth. Paulette Willis Dunn Douglasville, GA