This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/3YBBAEB/513.1.2 Message Board Post: I'm interested in learning more about the parents and siblings of Catherine Queen. She married James Hayes in Airdrie Parish, Lanark Co., Scotland on 6 Aug 1857. On her marriage license, her parents are listed as Bernard Queen and Mary Flanagan. This all I know about her and her family. Any further information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. C. Thompson

Okay, Katy...you have my interest. What will you share regarding this younger brother of Reuben Queen....William (b. ca 1793)? 1850 census of Arkansas? Anything else. Anyone else have info on this William....especially any male descendants? Thanks, Gene >

There is another DNA sample in process for another descendant of Samuel Queen of 1759 through his son, John R. Queen (b. ca 1803). The promised donor is a descendant of John R.'s son, Rev. John Lewis Queen (b. 1830). The objective is to confirm the current markers by testing in the lineage of another son of Rev. Lewis Queen. If successful, this will confirm the current mutation back to 1830. Gene

Hii, Linda, William [1850 Census] in Reuben Queen's household was most certainly a younger brother [born ca. 1793] and apparently in Arkansas when Reuben was, too. I have not done a study on him, but there is a possibility we can figure out his children from a group who remained in Ark. Reuben, you realize, also had a son, William L., a twin, born 1853. His twin died, but he went on to have a family--5 of his children died with him in a flood in Tom Green Co. TX in April 1900. Reuben possibly had a brother John--we are working on that theory now. As for the possibility that Henson might have been his father, I have no idea. [Where is a copy of Henson's will?] Teddy Noye at one time thought Timothy might be the father and said she discounted it because Reuben was not mentioned in his will. As much as Reuben and son, Elias Butler Queen, named children around family members, I figure the fact that they did not use the names "Henson" or "Timothy" would mean neither was the father or grandfather. The name both used was "Samuel", and Elias B. used "William", "John", and "James", too. So I was exploring Samuel and Dicey Rolls Queen as Reuben's parents. The marriage and birth dates would work--md. 1782, Reuben born ca. 1786. And the DNA comparison looks interesting. Frankly I don't know any way to prove it without documents -- and I know of none. Rolla protests that his "Francis" was not a son of Old William--and there may not be another"Francis" in the records, though others have suggested a connection. Long live King Rolla! [I wish he would locate that slab marker for his earliest relative's grave. It should have been too big to be moved easily--unless someone broke it up for stepping stones. I think we should mount an expedition for the grave site--maybe by helicopter? Imagine what information that stone might have carved on it! ] Katy

So sorry to hear of the death of your Uncle Tom, Jim. It is always sad to lose a family member -- "Our loss, Heaven's gain." I think most genealogists and family-hunters believe they are honoring those who have gone before by remembering them on paper, leaving a remembrance for others coming behind. Much as we honor a loved one in the cemetery with a visiit and flowers, even our DNA record is a remembrance. Your recent contact with Uncle Tom was a blessing to him for sure. Katy ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 1:46 PM Subject: [QUEEN] Jim Thomas Queen DNA Donor > It is with great sorrow that I announce the death of my DNA donor Jim > Thomas > Queen. > Born October 21, 1924. Died April 10, 2005. > > Uncle Tom had been mostly confined to a wheel chair for the last two > years. > He most certainly be missed by his family and the community that he lived > in. > He had been a deacon of his church for most of his life. A farmer and a > cotton mill worker, his opinion about all aspects of life and his > community was > often sought after. > > May his soul rest in peace and may the arms of out Master Reach Out to > Receive Him. > > > Jimmy Redmond Kit #29459 >>From the Home of Jimmy and JoAnne Redmond Sr > > > ==== QUEEN Mailing List ==== > Visit my homepage: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegaleire/ > QUEEN YDNA PROJECT > http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=X96855&special=True > http://www.ysearch.org/ > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.5 - Release Date: 4/7/2005 > >

Hello guys - Old Williams supposed son Henson Queen who married Sarah Hampton - remember him. I have been attempting to compile census data on Henson and children. I'll be glad to share when and if I ever get done :*) (Part of this process is a William and a John.) Have Henson as follows 1790 Montgomery County NC 1800 Montgomery County NC 1810 ???? (I would think Montgomery or Rutherford CO NC) 1820 Rutherford County NC Based on will (probated 1826) he had two sons John and William. I have William having a William Jr. in 1810 in NC. If I could find Henson in 1810 it could tie down which William is which --- maybe. Thanks for your help. Glenda

It is with great sorrow that I announce the death of my DNA donor Jim Thomas Queen. Born October 21, 1924. Died April 10, 2005. Uncle Tom had been mostly confined to a wheel chair for the last two years. He most certainly be missed by his family and the community that he lived in. He had been a deacon of his church for most of his life. A farmer and a cotton mill worker, his opinion about all aspects of life and his community was often sought after. May his soul rest in peace and may the arms of out Master Reach Out to Receive Him. Jimmy Redmond Kit #29459 From the Home of Jimmy and JoAnne Redmond Sr

Hi All, I've been out of town the last 2 days, so I'm just reading over the discussion on the marriage date for Samuel & Dicey. I'm the one who has it published on my website. However for a more clear copy you can view it at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegaleire/Sam.jpg If you look at this copy, it is easy to see 1782. Carol

Katy, There is no documentary basis for including Francis Queen (1751) as the fifth son of William. Unless we are talking about a different Francis than my Francis. And so far, there is no documentary basis to support a birth year of 1751. The DNA at this point is not completely conclusive, but coupled with family lore, would seem to rule our Francis out as related to the Old William line. If anyone can bring any data to bear on this, I would be most interested. However, we descendants of Francis are certainly willing to entertain thoughts and leads and documentary evidence that would support a link between Francis and Old William, even if that link is extra-marital. Rolla http://webpages.charter.net/rlqueen/DNA/queenmarker.htm http://www.familytreedna.com/public/queenDNA/ http://webpages.charter.net/rlqueen -------Original Message------- From: Katy McMillen Date: 04/08/05 21:32:56 To: [email protected] Subject: [QUEEN] Queen Chart for "Old William" Well, Linda, Recently I began a chart for "Old William" which includes his last son, Samuel, the one I was talking about. From back list notes: "Old William" ca. 1716 md.2nd? wife Margaret .Lewis[Was Katherine Lewis his first wife? What haappened to her?] There are 8 children that we believe are theirs: 1. Henson ca. 1746-1823 md. Sarah Hampton 2. Timothy ca. 1747. Left a will? 3. Margaret ca. 1748 md. John MccFarlin 4. William Lewis [Wm. II] 1749/50 5. Francis Queen 1751 6. Thomas 1753-after 1823 7. Rebecca 1758-1830 md. Stephen Hogue.["Old William" probably died at their house ca. 1801] 8. Samuel [tthe one I was talking about] 1759-1842 md. Dicey Rolls. HOWEVER if it is true that Samuel and Dicey married 1788, our Reuben is probably not their son, since censuses indicate he was born around 1786. We can track Reuben from NC, late 1820's to TN to ARK to TX 1848 until his death 1863/1866. The current DNA results indicate a group of 12 or so Participants who come out of the same backgrond--closely kin at the 200 years+ level. Which has been determined to be "Old William". Some Participants can trace to 1850, others to 1800, but we are lucky to be able to go back to ca.1786 with certainty. So we are in the position of having to use genealogy work to try to fit Reuben into the family of one of "Old William's" sons. Linda Menikos, Dixie McCutcheon, Don & Brenda Chandler CA, Teddie Noye CA, Jean Moyer and her relatives are all dependwnt on two Participants: #24329 Nolan Queen, and #29369 James Queen, Reuben's Queen males, to represent us in the Project. Make a chart off your own and come and join us. Speculation is rife! Katy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ma_scrooge Bellsouth" <[email protected]> To: "Katy McMillen" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 6:26 PM Subject: Re: Samuel and BN Queen >I haven't been on this group long and haven't followed the discussion. >Could you explain exactly who Samuel's ancestors are now believed to be? > > Linda > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Katy McMillen" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 3:17 PM > Subject: Samuel and BN Queen > > >> Thanks, Lee Lamar and James B. Hardin for the info on Samuel's family. >> The Queen-Listers have been talking about Samuel and Dicey Queen forever, >> and now DNA says we are one of the family [Great, Great, Grandfather >> Reuben Queen, we now presume to be a son of Samuel]. HELLO, COUSINS! >> Katy >> >> ______________________________ > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.4 - Release Date: 4/6/2005 > > ==== QUEEN Mailing List ==== Visit Reiley Kidd's homepg to view Queen information compiled and catagorized by first name: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Bluffs/2864/ QUEEN YDNA PROJECT http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=X96855&special=True http://www.ysearch.org/ ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.5 - Release Date: 4/7/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.5 - Release Date: 4/7/2005

a.. http://statelibrary.dcr.state.nc.us/nc/symbols/symbols.htm b.. Nickname, The Old North State or The Tar Heel State In 1629, King Charles I of England "erected into a province," all the land from Albemarle Sound on the north to the St. John's River on the south, which he directed should be called Carolina. The word Carolina is from the word Carolus, the Latin form of Charles. When Carolina was divided in 1710, the southern part was called South Carolina and the northern, or older settlement, North Carolina. From this came the nickname the "Old North State." Historians have recorded that the principal products during the early history of North Carolina were "tar, pitch, and turpentine." It was during one of the fiercest battles of the War Between the States, so the story goes, that the column supporting the North Carolina troops was driven from the field. After the battle the North Carolinians, who had successfully fought it out alone, were greeted from the passing derelict regiment with the question: "Any more tar down in the Old North State, boys?" Quick as a flash came the answer: "No, not a bit, old Jeff's bought it all up." "Is that so; what is he going to do with it?" was asked. "He's going to put on you-un's heels to make you stick better in the next fight." Creecy relates that General Lee, upon hearing of the incident, said: "God bless the Tar Heel boys," and from that they took the name (Adapted from Grandfather Tales of North Carolina by R.B. Creecy and Histories of North Carolina Regiments, Vol. III, by Walter Clark).

Well, Linda, Recently I began a chart for "Old William" which includes his last son, Samuel, the one I was talking about. From back list notes: "Old William" ca. 1716 md.2nd? wife Margaret .Lewis[Was Katherine Lewis his first wife? What haappened to her?] There are 8 children that we believe are theirs: 1. Henson ca. 1746-1823 md. Sarah Hampton 2. Timothy ca. 1747. Left a will? 3. Margaret ca. 1748 md. John MccFarlin 4. William Lewis [Wm. II] 1749/50 5. Francis Queen 1751 6. Thomas 1753-after 1823 7. Rebecca 1758-1830 md. Stephen Hogue.["Old William" probably died at their house ca. 1801] 8. Samuel [tthe one I was talking about] 1759-1842 md. Dicey Rolls. HOWEVER if it is true that Samuel and Dicey married 1788, our Reuben is probably not their son, since censuses indicate he was born around 1786. We can track Reuben from NC, late 1820's to TN to ARK to TX 1848 until his death 1863/1866. The current DNA results indicate a group of 12 or so Participants who come out of the same backgrond--closely kin at the 200 years+ level. Which has been determined to be "Old William". Some Participants can trace to 1850, others to 1800, but we are lucky to be able to go back to ca.1786 with certainty. So we are in the position of having to use genealogy work to try to fit Reuben into the family of one of "Old William's" sons. Linda Menikos, Dixie McCutcheon, Don & Brenda Chandler CA, Teddie Noye CA, Jean Moyer and her relatives are all dependwnt on two Participants: #24329 Nolan Queen, and #29369 James Queen, Reuben's Queen males, to represent us in the Project. Make a chart off your own and come and join us. Speculation is rife! Katy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ma_scrooge Bellsouth" <[email protected]> To: "Katy McMillen" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 6:26 PM Subject: Re: Samuel and BN Queen >I haven't been on this group long and haven't followed the discussion. >Could you explain exactly who Samuel's ancestors are now believed to be? > > Linda > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Katy McMillen" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 3:17 PM > Subject: Samuel and BN Queen > > >> Thanks, Lee Lamar and James B. Hardin for the info on Samuel's family. >> The Queen-Listers have been talking about Samuel and Dicey Queen forever, >> and now DNA says we are one of the family [Great, Great, Grandfather >> Reuben Queen, we now presume to be a son of Samuel]. HELLO, COUSINS! >> Katy >> >> ______________________________ > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.4 - Release Date: 4/6/2005 > >

Adding note for last Email.I have no proof only logic... enough so that I was looking for Rosanna Sills.Jarrell 's brother to be Uriah Sills his son Jesse m Sarah Taylor and had son Joseph Parker Sills (Joe ) has a dau.Hester bur.in the Mount Zion or Moriah Ch Cem Cleveland Co N.C, .And that is next door to Brier Creek in Rutherford Co. N C also a "Tid bit " from the files-- Maria Randall acquired in 1892 from A. and Sarah L. Devinny and witnessed by J. A. Queen and from W. K. and Rebecca Hunt in 1891-- W K is Kenchen Hunt his wife Rebecca Simmons had a brother Samuel Sills Simmons. I say there has to be a connection All are from same area. It may lead to a Queen Jones relation. Betty

Samuel Queen and Dicey Rolls may have been married 8 Sept. 1782. 1. A copy of the marriage bond was online at <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegaleire/Qdoc2.html> I can no longer locate that web page, but I have looked at it several times in the past. The original recorded bond is almost illegible. It has been indexed as 21 February 1788, but one researcher who looked at this in the North Carolina Archives said that it could just as well be 21 February 1782. The later makes more sense in light of the affidavit in Samuel Queen�s Revolutionary War Pension file which stated that the marriage took place 8 Sept. 1782. 2. From Samuel Queen's Revolutionary War Pension application, we have the following (which supports the 1782 date). Rev. War pension #R8541, Samuel Queen State of Georgia, Union County "On this 25th day of Oct. 1853 personally appeared in open court before me...Lewis Queen, a resident of the county and state aforesaid. Who being duly sworn according....declares that he is the son and Heir of the identical Samuel Queen who was a private in the company......... That he died the 22nd day of August AD 1842, that his mother named Dicy Queen died the 13th day of Sept. AD 1849 and that they were married the 8th day of September in the year 1782 and that they were residents of the County of Rutherford and State of NC and that they resided there 20 years....." 3. Samuel is shown on the 1790 NC census with wife, a son, and daughter in Lincoln County. I had son Henson as that one son being born between 1788-1790. However, if son Henson was born later in the year 1790 after the census count, then maybe that first son was Reubin. 4. Samuel Queen household, 1800 Federal census, Rutherford County, N.C: 21010-21010. (2 male under 10, 1 male 10-15, 1 male 26-45; 2 female under 10, 1 female 10-15, 1 female 26-45.) If son Harmon was born in 1800 after the census court, then Reubin could still be the oldest son. 5. Samuel Queen household, 1810 Federal Census, Buncombe County, North Carolina, p. 95: 22101-11201 (2 males under 10, 2 males 10-15, 1 male 16-25, 1 male over 45; 1 female under 10, 1 female 10-15, 2 females 16-25, 1 female over 45). If Reubin was the first born son, age 24, and gone from home- this would work. Has anyone located Reubin on the 1810 census in his own household? So, my conclusion is that Reubin could, indeed, be the eldest son of Samuel and Dicey. Any comments?

I wrote Mary Jarrell married Isaac Guffey. I was told Mary was a first cousin to Williamsom Franklin Jarrell and Mary. Jarrell ( She m (1) Alfred Queen (2) Frankling Randall.. I'll have to try to find a brother for Margaret Queens hubby.> O K So I found the hubby Adam Jarrell a brother.. He was Alfred. Jarrell I don’t have the census but remember seeing in 1840 Fed. Census for Rutherford Co. N.C Rosa or Rosanna Jarrell head of H H She was Rosanna Sills. M Daniel Jarrell She has children mostly daughters.but has son Adam another Alfred.. Adam is m in 1850 and Rosa has moved in with Joseph Price and wife Drucilla maybe “Drusey” her “pet” name ( My grand son used that word in that manner , when a small child and I like it) == Drucilla Earls-- her parents were Joshau Earls m Elizabeth Yelton. Alfred is with Mother and abt two sisters. COULD HE BE >. In 1905 J.A. Jarrell and Eliza sell to a J. A. Queen 54 and 36.5 acres on Brier Creek they would be related and who better to sell your land to? ( Say maybe Guessing. James Alford .) Issac Adam and Avery are the main male children in that family.But now we have an Alford .some one with the census see if you can find. Please .I still say when we get up higher in the tree with this family we will find the top Mama as Mary Jones m either Avery or Isaac and has a son Avery or Isaac whichever is opposite the dad. I remember Cleo Towery telling me of an old Isaac Jarrell on brier Creek I think he was that Mary Jones ch. As for which Jarrell Mary Jones m its in the Posy Downs book. Also believe the name was Fittsgearld and that John Fitzgerald b abt 1805 m Polly Jones was related. Regret the post is so long so long . Betty

Re: QUEEN-D Digest V05 #117 #4 Proof of Samuel & Dicey Marriage [O Eugene Queen <[email protected]] Some things come round again & again & again. Thanks to Linda Menikos" <mailto:[email protected]><[email protected]>) for sharing the results of an actual inspection of the marriage bond, via copy of same, by her and her cousin Teddy Noye. Linda's information was in the following message: Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 05:18:18 -0600 From: "Linda Menikos" <mailto:[email protected]><[email protected]> To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [QUEEN] Jane Queen & William Johnson The following 2002 posting summarized various evidence for 1882 being the magic year for Samuel & Dicy. James Hardin ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 03:06:28 -0500 From: "James B. Hardin" <mailto:[email protected]><[email protected]> To: [email protected] Message-Id: <[email protected]> Subject: [QUEEN] Samuel and Dicy's Marriage Date Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hi Linda and other interested Cuzs, I agree it is time to settle this matter. The court record (see below) showed the "8th day of September in the year 1782" as the date Samuel and Dicy were married. The date on the marriage bond had to be in 1782. Remember, Samuel Queen's Bible was "exhibited in open Court." What good would this have done if there was no information in it? Bible information was solid gold for proving births, deaths, marriages, and relationships in court, etc. One Queen tore the pertinent pages from his Bible and submitted them with his pension application. There are two dates associated with a marriage bond -- the date the marriage bond is issued and the date the marriage takes place. Sometimes it is the same day, sometimes it is some time increment(s) latter. If you look through the NC Marriage Bond transcriptions you will find some of them do show both a bond date and a marriage date. So, 21 Feb 1782 is the bond date and 8 Sep 1782 is the marriage date for Samuel and Dicy (Rolls) Queen. It is usually the responsibility of the person performing the marriage to see that the marriage is properly recorded. James B. Hardin ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ State of Georgia Union County On this 25th day of October A.D. one thousand and Eight Hundred and fifty Three personally appeared in open Court before me John S. Fain ordinary of the County of Union and State of Georgia, Lewis Queen a Resident of the County and State aforesaid Who being duly Sworn according to law declares that he is the Son & Heir of the Identical Samuel Queen Who was a private in the Company commanded by Captain George Dooley, and part of the service in the Regiment commanded by Colonel John Dooley in The War of the Revolution That he served thru year; that he died the 22nd day of August A.D. 1842 That his mother named Dicy Queen died the 13th day of September A.D. 1849 and that they were married the 8th day of September in the year 1782, and that they were residents of the County of Rutherford and State of North Carolina and that they resided there twenty years ....... There follows power of attorney information not copied. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Ancestry.com North Carolina Marriage Bonds, 1741-1868 28 Jul 2000 Bride: Dicey Rolls Groom: Samuel Queen Bond Date: 21 Feb 1788 (21 Feb 1782 per Teddy Noye) County: Rutherford Record #: 01 260 Bondsman: William Queen; William Goinges Witness: Iac Whiteside Bond #: 000135760 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Thank you very much Linda! >>Well, it's time to stick my neck out again. The controversy on when Samuel Queen & Dicy/Disey Rolls married was always a point that we wanted to confirm one way or the other. Teddy Noye, my cousin got the copy of the Marriage license, certificate, whatever, and looked at it carefully with a magnifying glass, and the print was sort of distorted, but by comparing the last digit with other numbers on the document, finally decided it really was 1782, not 1788. She sent me a scanned copy and I agreed with her decision.<< ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ______________________________ ------------------------------ At 01:41 PM 4/7/2005, you wrote: >Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 07:20:17 -0400 >From: O Eugene Queen <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Message-id: <[email protected]> >Subject: Proof of Samuel & Dicey Marriage >Content-type: text/plain; reply-type=response; charset=iso-8859-1; >format=flowed >Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit > >The only proof I have is an extract of their marriage bond with a reported >date of 2-21-1788 and a copy of the pension claim for Samuel in which >their son, Lewis Queen, certifies regarding Samuel and Dicy Queen that >"they were married the 8th day of September in the year 1782". (I don't >know which date is correct.) > >Gene > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Katy McMillen" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 1:56 AM >Subject: [QUEEN] Children of Samuel Queen of 1759 > > >>IS IT TRUE Samuel Queen and Dicey Rolls were married in 1788 ? Do we >>have proof???? >> >>Katy says: US Census's indicate Reuben Queen was born circa 1786 which >>would preclude his being a child of Sam and Dicey. Rolla, we have Reuben >>tracked ca. 1786 to ca 1866; and know his marriage to Mary Catherine >>Butler, daughter of Elias Butler of Montgomery County, N.C. . This >>supports Nolan Queen's genealogy for #24329.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3YBBAEB/522.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank You for your reply, this has got to be the same person Im still looking for the father of Willis Queen, if I find anything further I will let you know and please also keep me informed if you find something Sincerely Teddy Dalton # ID: I36424457 # Name: Elizabeth Carolina (Susan) HOVIS # Given Name: Elizabeth Carolina (Susan) # Surname: Hovis # Sex: F # Birth: Abt 1825 in Georgia # Death: 1880 in Tishomingo Co.,Near Iuka,Mississippi # Burial: Tishomingo Co.,Near Iuka,Mississippi # Change Date: 8 Dec 1999 # Note: Nickname: Susan Also Known As:<_AKA> Susan Queen Married Name:<_MARNM> Mrs. John Queen Marriage 1 John QUEEN b: 8 Aug 1810 in North Carolina * Married: Abt 1841 in Tishomingo Co.,Near Iuka,Mississippi Children 1. Has No Children Willis QUEEN b: Abt 1843 in Near Iuka,Tishomingo,Mississippi 2. Has Children Nancy Olive QUEEN b: Mar 1844 in Tishomingo,Near Iuka,Mississippi 3. Has No Children Mary Mahala QUEEN b: 7 Oct 1851 in Near Iuka,Tishomingo,Mississippi 4. Has No Children Joseph QUEEN b: Abt 1853 in Near Iuka,Tishomingo,Mississippi 5. Has No Children William QUEEN b: Abt 1856 in Near Iuka,Tishomingo,Mississippi 6. Has No Children Jacob QUEEN b: Abt 1857 in Near Iuka,Tishomingo,Miss 7. Has No Children Calvin QUEEN b: Abt 1859 in Near Iuka,Tishomingo,Mississippi OAS_AD('Position1');

I have updated the web-sheet with the final results for 26707. I have also started the house-cleaning of the web-data and you will see that reflected in the current sheet. I have also saved the current sheet up in an expanded view for your use for a few days. Please let me know where names, dates, and places are not correct. Changes to the web-spread-sheet include: 1) Elimination of the 3 outstanding tests that appear will not be returned. 2) Correcting and standardizing the appearance of the confirmed and unconfirmed groups. 3) Limiting the spreadsheet to only the display of the YDNA test. We have one MTDNA test. I just don't know how it should be displayed and analyzed at this point and will be working with the participant to try to figure something out. As you can see, we only have one outstanding new test at the lab awaiting results. We have several tests for which upgrade results are expected shortly. I am holding off making any big-picture statements until at least one of the upgrade tests return. Gene can correct me, but as I remember, during the American Revolution, the bravery of the North Carolina troops in holding their position in the face of overwhelming fire from the British troops caused one of the generals to state that they stuck to their ground as if they had "tar on their heels". There must be an official Tar Heel website that should tell all. Maybe someone can turn up the link. Rolla http://webpages.charter.net/rlqueen/DNA/queenmarker.htm http://www.familytreedna.com/public/queenDNA/ http://webpages.charter.net/rlqueen -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.4 - Release Date: 4/6/2005

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Queen Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/3YBBAEB/522.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi, What is the date and place of birth for Willis Queen? I have a Willis Queen born about 1843 in Georgia or Mississippi who migrated to Arkansas at least before 1910. I believe his first wife to have been Vinney Catherine Willis and his second wife to have been a Susan. He died Aug 30, 1928 and is buried in the Carolan Cemetery in Logan county, Arkansas. I believe his father was John Queen of Tishomingo county, Mississippi (born about 1803-1810 in North Carolina) and his mother, Elizabeth Unknown (born about 1824 in Georgia). Does this sound familiar to you? Luann

The only proof I have is an extract of their marriage bond with a reported date of 2-21-1788 and a copy of the pension claim for Samuel in which their son, Lewis Queen, certifies regarding Samuel and Dicy Queen that "they were married the 8th day of September in the year 1782". (I don't know which date is correct.) Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Katy McMillen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 1:56 AM Subject: [QUEEN] Children of Samuel Queen of 1759 > IS IT TRUE Samuel Queen and Dicey Rolls were married in 1788 ? Do we have > proof???? > > Katy says: US Census's indicate Reuben Queen was born circa 1786 which > would preclude his being a child of Sam and Dicey. > Rolla, we have Reuben tracked ca. 1786 to ca 1866; and know his marriage > to Mary Catherine Butler, daughter of Elias Butler of Montgomery County, > N.C. . This supports Nolan Queen's genealogy for #24329.

The DNA has Nolan's #24329 almost the same as the other Samuel participants. I just assumed we had arrived at that understanding. Then I was reading old Q-List messages and saw where Dicey Rolls and Samuel married in 1788. HOWEVER:[Since Reuben, our ancestor, appears in the censuses to probably have been born about 1786, he is unlikely to be Dicey and Samuel's child.] So I am asking: IS THE DICEY/ SAMUEL marriage date 1788 correct? Katy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Menikos" <[email protected]> To: "Katy McMillen" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 9:25 AM Subject: Re: [QUEEN] Samuel and BN Queen > Katy, > > I am confused here, please explain how this conclusion was arrived at. > Don't get me wrong, I would love to say, YESSSS! > > But I must have missed something. > > Linda > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Katy McMillen" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 2:17 PM > Subject: [QUEEN] Samuel and BN Queen > > >> Thanks, Lee Lamar and James B. Hardin for the info on Samuel's family. >> The Queen-Listers have been talking about Samuel and Dicey Queen forever, > and now DNA says we are one of the family [Great, Great, Grandfather > Reuben > Queen, we now presume to be a son of Samuel]. HELLO, COUSINS! >> Katy >> >> >> ==== QUEEN Mailing List ==== >> Visit my homepage to view old Queen documents: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegaleire/ >> QUEEN YDNA PROJECT >> http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=X96855&special=True >> http://www.ysearch.org/ >> >> ============================== >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.4 - Release Date: 4/6/2005 > >