The 1790 and 1800 Rutherford Co., NC census records give William Lewis Queen as having 9 children on the 1790, 12 on the 1800 counting Meredith who marries in 1797. There are 3 in 1810 one male and 2 females and appears wife has died these are the ages to be the 3 born after 1790 census. On the 1820 Rutherford census William Lewis Queen is living one household apart from "Blind John Jones" and there is evidence that these families had a very close relationship. Old William Queen was not in Rutherford for the 1790 Census, He signs papers in Randolph Co., NC giving son William in Rutherford County, NC power of attorney. He returns on the 1800 Census with one male and one female age 45 and above. Old William dies between 1800 census and July 1801 when Stephen Hogue, Administrator of estate of William Queen deceased returns inventory. There are children unaccounted for???? Who has all twelve accounted for??? Where is there a document that gives any evidence that William Lewis Queens wife was Margaret, think it has been pretty much decided that there is no documented evidence of her surname being Meredith. There is no definitive proof that Olive Vine's last name was Queen, or that she was the daughter of William Lewis Queen. However, there is strong circumstantial evidence that leads to that conclusion. Just because the name Olive Vine doesn't appear in someone's "file" as a daughter of William Lewis Queen does not necessarily mean that she is not his daughter. The census records indicate that there were at least twelve children of William Lewis Queen, some of whom have not been fully accounted for. There is very little documentation as to the existence of all children of William Lewis Queen. On the 1790 Rutherford Co., NC census William Queen has 1 male under 16, 4 males over 16, and 6 females. He is the only person with the "Queen" surname in Rutherford County. By 1800, William has 1-Male under 10; 3-Males (16-26); 1-Male over 45; 2-Females (under 10); 3-Female (10-16); 2-Female (16-26); 1-Female (26-45). This census documentation confirms that William Lewis Queen had at least 12 children. Olive Vine Queen would conform to the number of females listed on these two census. Additionally, on the 1820 Rutherford Co., NC census, Page 390, William Queen is shown living one household away from Olive Vine's father in law, "Blind John Jones." The name "Olive, Olive Vine, and Olivina runs through out the Queen and Jones family lines. Edward Jones sister, Ursula, who married James H. Queen, known son of William Lewis Queen, named a daughter Olive Vine. William Lewis Queen, Jr. and Samuel Queen also named daughters "Olive Vine." Mary Ann Queen, who married Robert Hemphill, named a daughter "Olive Vine Hemphill." Rebecca Queen, who married Robert Jones, son of "Blind John Jones", named a daughter "Olivine." The Olive name is unusual for that time and even today, not like the obligatory Sarah, Mary and Elizabeth that filled every family line. 1850 US Census, Haywood Co., NC; Page 191: Edward Jones with wife Ollif Vine age 61. (Some one at some time read the name as Wines and that just keeps going and going) Dennis Wilson President Hamilton County Tennessee Genealogical Society Chattanooga, TN _http://www.hctgs.org/_ (http://www.hctgs.org/)

OK Fasmily. My Family belonging to William Lewis Queen looks much different than Pauls. Can some of you help fill in the concrete adds and drops from this family. William Lewis Queen Sr. (1749-1835) md 1773 Margaret Meredith (1750-1828) Children Meredith (1775-1860/70) md Jane Newton Feb 16 1797 James (1777-Mar 22 1845) md Sarah Ferguson Jones in 1802 William Lewis Queen Jr (1774-1822) md Mary (Margaret) Orr about 1802 Moses (1781-before 1850) md Sadie Brown Joseph Henson ( 1794-aft 1880) md Ursula Jones Virginia Jane "Jennie" 9A=1787-Mar 20 1879) md joshua Hall Jr Nov 5 1807 Catherine F. (1774 {1783} md Josiah Jones Feb 13 1806 Mary (1793 {1798}-bef 1850 md Robert Hemphill Nov 15 1812 ---Queen I would love to put George W Queen with this family as in my heart I think this is where he goes but I don't have anything to go on. Anyone else with strong ideas pointing in this direction? I also don't have Olive Vine with this groupas a child or Olive as a wife. Also is the spouse of James-Sarah Ferguson Jones really the daughter John the blind one or the daughter of Thomas Ferguson as I have her listed. Was she married once before and that is where she became Jones from? I had Samuel listed as one of the children once but removed it becasue of doubt. Do I put him back in the family. I do have a Samuel as a sibling for William Queen Sr. md to Dicey Rolls. Does anyone know about the queen without a name ( I assume it was an infant that died-was it male or female? Tell me the clsoe relationship with the Queen family and John "the Blind One" Jones. How many married into his family. Lots of questions. I need lots of answers This is the greatest family -I loe being a part of all of you Wendy

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but there is NO proof that Joseph H. Queen's middle name was Henson. Anyone? Vicki At 11:38 AM 5/3/2005, you wrote: >OK Fasmily. My Family belonging to William Lewis Queen looks much different >than Pauls. Can some of you help fill in the concrete adds and drops from >this family. >William Lewis Queen Sr. (1749-1835) >md 1773 >Margaret Meredith (1750-1828) >Children >Meredith (1775-1860/70) md Jane Newton Feb 16 1797 >James (1777-Mar 22 1845) md Sarah Ferguson Jones in 1802 >William Lewis Queen Jr (1774-1822) md Mary (Margaret) Orr about 1802 >Moses (1781-before 1850) md Sadie Brown >Joseph Henson ( 1794-aft 1880) md Ursula Jones >Virginia Jane "Jennie" 9A=1787-Mar 20 1879) md joshua Hall Jr Nov 5 1807 >Catherine F. (1774 {1783} md Josiah Jones Feb 13 1806 >Mary (1793 {1798}-bef 1850 md Robert Hemphill Nov 15 1812 >---Queen > >I would love to put George W Queen with this family as in my heart I think >this is where he goes but I don't have anything to go on. Anyone else with >strong ideas pointing in this direction? >I also don't have Olive Vine with this groupas a child or Olive as a wife. >Also is the spouse of James-Sarah Ferguson Jones really the daughter John the >blind one or the daughter of Thomas Ferguson as I have her listed. Was she >married once before and that is where she became Jones from? >I had Samuel listed as one of the children once but removed it becasue of >doubt. Do I put him back in the family. I do have a Samuel as a sibling for >William Queen Sr. md to Dicey Rolls. >Does anyone know about the queen without a name ( I assume it was an infant >that died-was it male or female? >Tell me the clsoe relationship with the Queen family and John "the Blind One" >Jones. How many married into his family. >Lots of questions. I need lots of answers >This is the greatest family -I loe being a part of all of you >Wendy > > >==== QUEEN Mailing List ==== >Visit my homepage: >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegaleire/ >QUEEN YDNA PROJECT >http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=X96855&special=True >http://www.ysearch.org/ > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Thanks Gene. Diann 2nd Officer Athens Chapter # 439 ----- Original Message ----- From: "O Eugene Queen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 1:12 AM Subject: [QUEEN] Exciting and Discouraging (?) DNA Results We've learned much since biting into the YDNA project. It remains my opinion that, in total, it has been a resounding success. My reading of the results leads me to the following tentative conclusions: 1. About 19 donors descend in some way from "old" William Queen of ca 1716-20. 2. Three donors appear to descend from the Charles Queen of VA...and this Charles may very well have been a Quinn as evidenced by the perfect match at 12 markers with David Quinn of Northern Ireland. From a study of the Stephen Post Queen history of this family many years ago, I found nothing to suggest a linkage with "old" William Queen. Thus, the DNA results are as expected insofar as the absence of a match to "old" William Queen. 3. To my knowledge, Nathan Queen was not a member of a community in which "old" William's kin were located. The name "Queen" was our clue and hope to make a connection to other Queens. But, it was our only clue. The exciting discovery with this sample (with 9 of 12 mismatches to "old" William at the 12 marker level) is the perfect match with a McQueen of South Carolina....with reported documented lineage back to Scotland. 4. Researchers through the years have been unable to find any evidence of a linkage of Francis Queen to the "old" William clan. For one thing, Francis had too much money....perhaps Rolla is of royal ancestors. Thus, the absence of a genetic linkage was not unexpected. 5. No evidence has ever been located linking "old" William to the Samuel Queen clan of Maryland. We were grasping at straws in trying to find a link...and we didn't find it through YDNA testing. Those folks moved in different circles than did our "old" William. Thus, no surprise here. This leaves 4 samples that have me scratching my head. As I recall, the expectation is that 2-5% of the samples should reflect unreported adoptions or other events somewhere up the family tree; thus 1-2 of these samples may fall into that category using "average" statistical data. If the Queen clan was a bit more rambunctious than average surname folks, then perhaps 10% is a reality for our gang somewhere up in the higher branches of the tree. Discouraging results...........I suppose that my discouragement is primarily in two areas: 1. We (and me, I) should have absorbed the reality that there was little likelihood that sons of "old" William would have YDNA different from their pa. The statistical reality was staring us in the face; but I never did the simple math until we were well into the project. In reality, the best we could realistically hope for was a mutation in the DNA of one of the grandchildren...and that the DNA of some of our samples would match that mutation. Well, we're still at our brick walls; but we can see "old" William on the other side of the wall and many can now call him their great XXX or some such grandpa. 2. The absence of confirming samples in some lineages. This is of great importance in some lineages with mutations; however getting that second sample back up the tree off a different branch has been a real challenge. I know, because I've tried to get some for other lines of interest to me. Still, we must not give up...especially regarding the samples with major unexplained mutations. My Alfred's pa?? Beats me; but we certainly have Rev. James Henry Queen of 1847 pegged with YDNA ...and we know from other evidence that his pa was Alfred. Hope this rambling is of help to someone. Gene ==== QUEEN Mailing List ==== Visit my homepage: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegaleire/ QUEEN YDNA PROJECT http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=X96855&special=True http://www.ysearch.org/ ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.0 - Release Date: 4/29/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.0 - Release Date: 4/29/2005

Hi Gene and Don I'm ready when everyone else are. Just let me know. Been busy with my Kelley's and Hogan's here lately. From the Home of Jimmy and JoAnne Redmond Sr

Paul, I'm posting to Queen-L for the benefit of all, rather than responding off-list. My understanding is that you are correct in that Wm Q, Sr. of 1749 and Samuel of 1759 were brothers - and that they were sons of old William. However, Samuel of 1776-80 is not the same Samuel as the one who married Dicey. The DNA of descendant donors of Sr., Samuel of 1759 and Samuel of 1776 do not match. However, it is understandable that they do not match since 100's of male children were born of these lineages between 1749 and 1920+. (Over 90 male Queens descend from Alfred Queen of 1810 by 1942.) Thus, one point - perhaps two - mutations are expected in many lineages. Remember, it's the YDNA of the donor that is being analyzed; not the YDNA of the old ancestor. It's from the donor DNA that we can draw inferences as to DNA of the old ancestor. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Mears" <[email protected]> To: "O Eugene Queen" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 10:57 PM Subject: Re: [QUEEN] DNA - Alfred Queen Lineages > so Alfred DNA didn't match WLQ Sr line?...Samuel Queen that married Dicey > Rolls was a brother to William Lewis Queen Sr...he is listed on Wm's > pension > application...so we have no hard evidence that WLQ Sr and Samuel were sons > of William Queen of Anson County NC? > > Paul > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "O Eugene Queen" <[email protected]> > To: "Paul Mears" <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 10:29 PM > Subject: Re: [QUEEN] DNA - Alfred Queen Lineages > > >> There are a number of living male Queen descendants of the WLQ, Sr. > lineage. >> We have a number of documented or DNA genetic links to him. >> >> Stay tuned to Queen-L as others begin to follow-thru with their lineages. >> >> As to the Haywood County Queens of my lineage; it appears that Samuel > Queen >> of 1776-80 hatched a number of them before the William Queen crowd >> arrived >> later in the 1820's. Ah, if we could just find the pa of this Samuel. >> >> The Jones are of great interest to a number of Queen researchers. In >> addition to census and other data, my mapping project in Rutherford >> County >> confirms land ownership in the Whitesides Settlement of Queens and Jones > in >> close proximity. >> >> Gene >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Paul Mears" <[email protected]> >> To: "O Eugene Queen" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 10:18 PM >> Subject: Re: [QUEEN] DNA - Alfred Queen Lineages >> >> >> > no living descendants from WLQ Sr either?..and I concur about >> > proof...it >> > is >> > a must...but we have to still make assumptions when there were only >> > four >> > or >> > five Queen families that made the trek from Rutherford to Haywood and > can >> > only rely on census for the most part, they didn't just hatch there...I >> > have >> > many Queen's on my tree and very close family from this line in Haywood >> > County NC where I was born...there is no direct Queen lineage proven >> > but >> > my >> > interest for joining the Queen L group was my Jones direct line of >> > Rutherford married into this Queen family...there were eight dau's on > the >> > Rutherford Census with WLQ Sr...the only Queen on the 1790 Rutherford >> > Census...we do know that some of my Jones married the Queen's in >> > Rutherford...they resided in Whitesides Settlement, Rutherford County >> > NC >> > and >> > were nearby on the 1820 Rutherford Census..of the known marriages btw >> > children of John Jones of Whitesides Settlement and children of William >> > Lewis Queen, Sr we know that Ursula Jones married Joseph H Queen and >> > removed >> > to GA...Josiah Jones m. Catherine Queen and removed to GA...and Edward >> > Jones >> > m. Olive Vine Queen and removed to Haywood County/Jackson County, > NC...it >> > is >> > possible that Charles Jones wife was Elizabeth Queen and Robert Jones >> > m. >> > Rebecca Queen by a possible dau on the 1850 Rutherford Census named >> > Olivine >> > it was used exclusively in this Queen family. >> > >> > Paul >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "O Eugene Queen" <[email protected]> >> > To: "Paul Mears" <[email protected]> >> > Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 9:57 PM >> > Subject: Re: [QUEEN] DNA - Alfred Queen Lineages >> > >> > >> >> I agree regarding the YDNA of WLQ, Jr. Unfortunately my sources have >> >> come >> >> up with zilch as to a living male Queen of this lineage. >> >> >> >> A more likely relationship that some of us have worked for about 30 > years >> > is >> >> that Alfred was a brother to James Henry Queen (b. 1808) who married >> >> Isabella Bryson. Regretably, there is no living male Queen of this >> > lineage >> >> either. My last hope dried up in Texas. I was about 6 years too >> >> late. >> >> >> >> I have an open mind regarding WLQ, Jr. One of my Alfred's daughters >> > married >> >> a grandson of Jr. >> >> >> >> But, I want to see some documentation or DNA evidence before I claim a >> >> relationship. I've been researching too long in the search for >> > facts/solid >> >> evidence to settle for anything less. >> >> >> >> Gene >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Paul Mears" <[email protected]> >> >> To: "O Eugene Queen" <[email protected]> >> >> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 9:49 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [QUEEN] DNA - Alfred Queen Lineages >> >> >> >> >> >> > from census and logical assumption he would be a son of Wm Lewis > Queen, >> > Jr >> >> > but I have no other evidence...Cocke County TN borders Haywood >> >> > County >> >> > NC..W >> >> > L Queen Jr died young with no will..his brother James named a son >> >> > Alfred >> >> > as >> >> > well...would be interesting to see some DNA results of others from > the >> > Jr >> >> > line to see if they match your Alfred Queen? >> >> > >> >> > Paul >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> >> > From: "O Eugene Queen" <[email protected]> >> >> > To: "Paul Mears" <[email protected]> >> >> > Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 9:34 PM >> >> > Subject: Re: [QUEEN] DNA - Alfred Queen Lineages >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> Not to my knowledge. >> >> >> >> >> >> We just do not have adequate evidence to "assign" a pa to Alfred. >> >> >> >> >> >> Gene >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> From: "Paul Mears" <[email protected]> >> >> >> To: "O Eugene Queen" <[email protected]> >> >> >> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 9:24 PM >> >> >> Subject: Re: [QUEEN] DNA - Alfred Queen Lineages >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Gene, >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Alfred Queen was a son of William Lewis Queen, Jr and born in >> >> >> > Rutherford >> >> >> > County NC? >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Paul

Let the data flow.............Within a few days I will post more DNA lineages of donors not on Queen-L. Many of us have posted our direct lineages as we received DNA results; but it's worth repeating. In order to be of the greatest assistance to Queen researchers, I ask that all queries regarding these lineages be posted to Queen-L. Further, any query regarding these lineages should include the documented lineage of the person seeking additional information. A single piece of vital information may be in the lineage of persons who have not yet posted such data to Queen-L. We can all benefit in some small way by sharing. My 3 cents. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Skip Queen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 10:28 PM Subject: Re: [QUEEN] Exciting and Discouraging (?) DNA Results > Me either. > --------------- > [email protected] wrote: > >> Can we move forward to list the names of the participants and their DNA >> ancestors ? >> >> I for one have no objection. >> >> Don Queen

Me either. --------------- [email protected] wrote: > Can we move forward to list the names of the participants and their > DNA ancestors ? > > I for one have no objection. > > Don Queen > ----- Original Message ----- From: "O Eugene Queen" > <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 10:12 PM > Subject: [QUEEN] Exciting and Discouraging (?) DNA Results > > >> We've learned much since biting into the YDNA project. It remains my >> opinion that, in total, it has been a resounding success. My reading >> of the results leads me to the following tentative conclusions: >> >> 1. About 19 donors descend in some way from "old" William Queen of >> ca 1716-20. >> >> 2. Three donors appear to descend from the Charles Queen of VA...and >> this Charles may very well have been a Quinn as evidenced by the >> perfect match at 12 markers with David Quinn of Northern Ireland. >> From a study of the Stephen Post Queen history of this family many >> years ago, I found nothing to suggest a linkage with "old" William >> Queen. Thus, the DNA results are as expected insofar as the absence >> of a match to "old" William Queen. >> >> 3. To my knowledge, Nathan Queen was not a member of a community in >> which "old" William's kin were located. The name "Queen" was our >> clue and hope to make a connection to other Queens. But, it was our >> only clue. The exciting discovery with this sample (with 9 of 12 >> mismatches to "old" William at the 12 marker level) is the perfect >> match with a McQueen of South Carolina....with reported documented >> lineage back to Scotland. >> >> 4. Researchers through the years have been unable to find any >> evidence of a linkage of Francis Queen to the "old" William clan. >> For one thing, Francis had too much money....perhaps Rolla is of >> royal ancestors. Thus, the absence of a genetic linkage was not >> unexpected. >> >> 5. No evidence has ever been located linking "old" William to the >> Samuel Queen clan of Maryland. We were grasping at straws in trying >> to find a link...and we didn't find it through YDNA testing. Those >> folks moved in different circles than did our "old" William. Thus, >> no surprise here. >> >> This leaves 4 samples that have me scratching my head. As I recall, >> the expectation is that 2-5% of the samples should reflect unreported >> adoptions or other events somewhere up the family tree; thus 1-2 of >> these samples may fall into that category using "average" statistical >> data. If the Queen clan was a bit more rambunctious than average >> surname folks, then perhaps 10% is a reality for our gang somewhere >> up in the higher branches of the tree. >> >> Discouraging results...........I suppose that my discouragement is >> primarily in two areas: >> 1. We (and me, I) should have absorbed the reality that there was >> little likelihood that sons of "old" William would have YDNA >> different from their pa. The statistical reality was staring us in >> the face; but I never did the simple math until we were well into the >> project. In reality, the best we could realistically hope for was a >> mutation in the DNA of one of the grandchildren...and that the DNA of >> some of our samples would match that mutation. Well, we're still at >> our brick walls; but we can see "old" William on the other side of >> the wall and many can now call him their great XXX or some such grandpa. >> >> 2. The absence of confirming samples in some lineages. This is of >> great importance in some lineages with mutations; however getting >> that second sample back up the tree off a different branch has been a >> real challenge. I know, because I've tried to get some for other >> lines of interest to me. Still, we must not give up...especially >> regarding the samples with major unexplained mutations. >> >> My Alfred's pa?? Beats me; but we certainly have Rev. James Henry >> Queen of 1847 pegged with YDNA ...and we know from other evidence >> that his pa was Alfred. >> >> Hope this rambling is of help to someone. >> >> Gene >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== QUEEN Mailing List ==== >> Visit my homepage: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegaleire/ >> QUEEN YDNA PROJECT >> http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=X96855&special=True >> http://www.ysearch.org/ >> >> ============================== >> Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >> New content added every business day. 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I'll start the YDNA results ball rolling............. Kit 23313 Oscar Eugene Queen (b. 1942 Davidson County, NC) >>father, Roy Erastus Queen (b. 1920 Swain County, NC) >>grandfather, William Monroe Queen (b. 1877 Swain County, NC) >>g. grandfather, Rev. James Henry Queen (b. 1847, Cocke Co, TN; to NC by 1852 and birth of a brother) >>g.g.grandfather, Alfred Queen (b. ca 1809-1810 place Unknown; lived Haywood Co, NC in 1830's; then Cocke Co, TN; then Jackson Co., NC) Kit 34392 Donor not identified, but born in Jackson Co., NC. (DNA results not yet avail) >>father, Samuel Oscar Queen (b. 1906 Swain Co., NC; lived in Swain, Jackson and Davidson counties, NC) >>grandfather and other ancestors same as for kit 23313. Kit 28106 Donor not identified, but born in Valdese, NC >>father, Wilbur Hasten Queen (b. 1912 NC; lived in Ohio for a time; died in California) >>grandfather, John B. Queen (b. 1879 Swain County, NC) >>g. grandfather, Rev. James Henry Queen per kit 23313 >>g.g.grandfather, Alfred Queen per kit 23313 Kit 31268 Donor not identified, but born 1941 in NC >>father, William Earlie Queen (b. 1904 Jackson Co., NC) >>grandfather, George Wilson Queen (b. 1883 Jackson Co., NC) >>g.grandfather, John R(obert?) Queen (b. ca 1854 Jackson Co., NC) >>John R. was a son or adopted son of Alfred Queen per kit 23313 I will attempt to answer any questions regarding these individuals if such answers may help others with their family research. Who will be next with their info? Gene

My recommendation is that everyone now reveal the names and birth years as far down the tree towards the donor as privacy concerns will allow. Any other concise info that would help others would also be in order. As for me, I will include my own name and DOB. However, I have promised some donors that their name will not be revealed; thus I will honor that pledge....which allowed me to get the samples. (In reality, the identity of the living donor will be of little or no value to the research of others anyway unless they're just interested in names of members of any family.) My 2 cents. Gene > Can we move forward to list the names of the participants > and their DNA ancestors ? > > I for one have no objection. > > Don Queen

Can we move forward to list the names of the participants and their DNA ancestors ? I for one have no objection. Don Queen ----- Original Message ----- From: "O Eugene Queen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 10:12 PM Subject: [QUEEN] Exciting and Discouraging (?) DNA Results > We've learned much since biting into the YDNA project. It remains my > opinion that, in total, it has been a resounding success. My reading of > the results leads me to the following tentative conclusions: > > 1. About 19 donors descend in some way from "old" William Queen of ca > 1716-20. > > 2. Three donors appear to descend from the Charles Queen of VA...and this > Charles may very well have been a Quinn as evidenced by the perfect match > at 12 markers with David Quinn of Northern Ireland. From a study of the > Stephen Post Queen history of this family many years ago, I found nothing > to suggest a linkage with "old" William Queen. Thus, the DNA results are > as expected insofar as the absence of a match to "old" William Queen. > > 3. To my knowledge, Nathan Queen was not a member of a community in which > "old" William's kin were located. The name "Queen" was our clue and hope > to make a connection to other Queens. But, it was our only clue. The > exciting discovery with this sample (with 9 of 12 mismatches to "old" > William at the 12 marker level) is the perfect match with a McQueen of > South Carolina....with reported documented lineage back to Scotland. > > 4. Researchers through the years have been unable to find any evidence of > a linkage of Francis Queen to the "old" William clan. For one thing, > Francis had too much money....perhaps Rolla is of royal ancestors. Thus, > the absence of a genetic linkage was not unexpected. > > 5. No evidence has ever been located linking "old" William to the Samuel > Queen clan of Maryland. We were grasping at straws in trying to find a > link...and we didn't find it through YDNA testing. Those folks moved in > different circles than did our "old" William. Thus, no surprise here. > > This leaves 4 samples that have me scratching my head. As I recall, the > expectation is that 2-5% of the samples should reflect unreported > adoptions or other events somewhere up the family tree; thus 1-2 of these > samples may fall into that category using "average" statistical data. If > the Queen clan was a bit more rambunctious than average surname folks, > then perhaps 10% is a reality for our gang somewhere up in the higher > branches of the tree. > > Discouraging results...........I suppose that my discouragement is > primarily in two areas: > 1. We (and me, I) should have absorbed the reality that there was little > likelihood that sons of "old" William would have YDNA different from their > pa. The statistical reality was staring us in the face; but I never did > the simple math until we were well into the project. In reality, the best > we could realistically hope for was a mutation in the DNA of one of the > grandchildren...and that the DNA of some of our samples would match that > mutation. Well, we're still at our brick walls; but we can see "old" > William on the other side of the wall and many can now call him their > great XXX or some such grandpa. > > 2. The absence of confirming samples in some lineages. This is of great > importance in some lineages with mutations; however getting that second > sample back up the tree off a different branch has been a real challenge. > I know, because I've tried to get some for other lines of interest to me. > Still, we must not give up...especially regarding the samples with major > unexplained mutations. > > My Alfred's pa?? Beats me; but we certainly have Rev. James Henry Queen > of 1847 pegged with YDNA ...and we know from other evidence that his pa > was Alfred. > > Hope this rambling is of help to someone. > > Gene > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== QUEEN Mailing List ==== > Visit my homepage: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegaleire/ > QUEEN YDNA PROJECT > http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=X96855&special=True > http://www.ysearch.org/ > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.0 - Release Date: 4/29/2005 >

I hate to admit it, but this is the first memo I've gotten on the DNA subject that I can understand and appreciate. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "O Eugene Queen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 10:12 PM Subject: [QUEEN] Exciting and Discouraging (?) DNA Results > We've learned much since biting into the YDNA project. It remains my > opinion that, in total, it has been a resounding success. My reading of > the results leads me to the following tentative conclusions: > > 1. About 19 donors descend in some way from "old" William Queen of ca > 1716-20. > > 2. Three donors appear to descend from the Charles Queen of VA...and this > Charles may very well have been a Quinn as evidenced by the perfect match > at 12 markers with David Quinn of Northern Ireland. From a study of the > Stephen Post Queen history of this family many years ago, I found nothing > to suggest a linkage with "old" William Queen. Thus, the DNA results are > as expected insofar as the absence of a match to "old" William Queen. > > 3. To my knowledge, Nathan Queen was not a member of a community in which > "old" William's kin were located. The name "Queen" was our clue and hope > to make a connection to other Queens. But, it was our only clue. The > exciting discovery with this sample (with 9 of 12 mismatches to "old" > William at the 12 marker level) is the perfect match with a McQueen of > South Carolina....with reported documented lineage back to Scotland. > > 4. Researchers through the years have been unable to find any evidence of > a linkage of Francis Queen to the "old" William clan. For one thing, > Francis had too much money....perhaps Rolla is of royal ancestors. Thus, > the absence of a genetic linkage was not unexpected. > > 5. No evidence has ever been located linking "old" William to the Samuel > Queen clan of Maryland. We were grasping at straws in trying to find a > link...and we didn't find it through YDNA testing. Those folks moved in > different circles than did our "old" William. Thus, no surprise here. > > This leaves 4 samples that have me scratching my head. As I recall, the > expectation is that 2-5% of the samples should reflect unreported > adoptions or other events somewhere up the family tree; thus 1-2 of these > samples may fall into that category using "average" statistical data. If > the Queen clan was a bit more rambunctious than average surname folks, > then perhaps 10% is a reality for our gang somewhere up in the higher > branches of the tree. > > Discouraging results...........I suppose that my discouragement is > primarily in two areas: > 1. We (and me, I) should have absorbed the reality that there was little > likelihood that sons of "old" William would have YDNA different from their > pa. The statistical reality was staring us in the face; but I never did > the simple math until we were well into the project. In reality, the best > we could realistically hope for was a mutation in the DNA of one of the > grandchildren...and that the DNA of some of our samples would match that > mutation. Well, we're still at our brick walls; but we can see "old" > William on the other side of the wall and many can now call him their > great XXX or some such grandpa. > > 2. The absence of confirming samples in some lineages. This is of great > importance in some lineages with mutations; however getting that second > sample back up the tree off a different branch has been a real challenge. > I know, because I've tried to get some for other lines of interest to me. > Still, we must not give up...especially regarding the samples with major > unexplained mutations. > > My Alfred's pa?? Beats me; but we certainly have Rev. James Henry Queen > of 1847 pegged with YDNA ...and we know from other evidence that his pa > was Alfred. > > Hope this rambling is of help to someone. > > Gene > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== QUEEN Mailing List ==== > Visit my homepage: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegaleire/ > QUEEN YDNA PROJECT > http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=X96855&special=True > http://www.ysearch.org/ > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.0 - Release Date: 4/29/2005 >

OK, I'm convinced, now who married Moses Queen ? Don ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 8:16 PM Subject: Re: [QUEEN] William Lewis Queen Sr >I have that he was Moses Meredith Queen > Samuel Carpenter witnessed the marriage bond of Meredith Queen and Jane > Wedon/Newton in 1797, > > > > I don't know if this Moses Meredith was a son of Wm or Timothy.Jane was > definately the dau of Capt. Benjaminne Newton.His name was signed > Benjaminne Weedon in one instance I took that for his middle name as he > was Capt.Ben Newton. I think the Posey Downs book gave Jane Newton as > being jane Weedon,and as I said she could have been jane Weedon Newton. My > head is fine but it's my bedtime.Betty > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 10:51 PM > Subject: Re: [QUEEN] William Lewis Queen Sr > > >> Now I'm really confused. >> >> We've been down this path before. >> >> How can Moses wife be Jane Weedon if her last name was Newton ? >> >> I thought that Jane Newton married Meredith Queen and her father was >> Benjamin. >> >> My head hurts, I think I'll lay down for a while >> >> Don >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 7:17 PM >> Subject: Re: [QUEEN] William Lewis Queen Sr >> >> >>> For starters. >>> +Moses was born 1781 and married Jane Weedon Her middle name could have >>> been Weedon as her father was Benjamine Weedon Newton. Betty >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 8:41 PM >>> Subject: Re: [QUEEN] William Lewis Queen Sr >>> >>> >>>>I have never been accused of being the resident scholar, but here is >>>>each question preceded by an arrow > and what I have in my records >>>>preceded by an +. >>>> >>>> All of this pertains to the children of William Lewis Queen Sr. >>>> >>>> >>>>>I would like to put forth the children of William Lewis Queen Sr as I >>>>>have them for discussion: >>>>> >>>>> William Lewis Queen, Sr. b. c. 1749 Prince Georges County, MC d. 1835 >>>>> Macon County NC m. Olive? >>>>> >>>>> Meredith Queen b. c. 1768 m. Jane Newton >>>> >>>> +Merdedith was born 1775 and wed 1797 >>>> >>>> >>>>> Moses Queen ? b. c. 1770 m. Sadie Brown >>>> >>>> +Moses was born 1781 and married Jane Weedon >>>> >>>> >>>>> William Lewis Queen, Jr. b. c. 1774 married Margaret (removed to >>>>> Haywood County NC named dau Olive Vine Queen) >>>> >>>> + William Lewis Jr. was wed 1797 to Mary Orr >>>> >>>>> Samuel Queen b. c. 1776 m. Nancy (named dau Olive Queen) >>>> >>>> +No record of any such son >>>> >>>>> James Queen b. c. 1778 m. Sarah Jones d. of William Jones) >>>> >>>> +James Queen born 1777 and wed 1802 >>>> >>>>> Catherine Queen b. c. 1780 m. Josiah Jones son of Blind John Jones of >>>>> Rutherford, removed to GA) >>>> >>>> + No record of her anywhere >>>> >>>>> Rebecca Queen b. 1785 m. Robert Jones (son of Blind John Jones, named >>>>> a dau Olivine) >>>> >>>> + No record of any such daughter >>>> >>>>> Virginia Queen b. 1787 m. Joshua Hall (removed to Haywood County NC) >>>> >>>> + Hooray, we agree ! >>>> >>>>> Olive Vine Queen b. 1789 m. Edward Jones (son of Blind John Jones, >>>>> removed to Haywood County) >>>> >>>> + There was an Olive Queen born in 1807 who wed Carter Ross. Olive Vine >>>> Queen was born to Joseph H. in 1819 >>>> >>>>> Joseph H Queen b. c. 1790 m. Ursula Jones (dau of Blind John Jones, >>>>> named dau Olive Vine, removed to GA) >>>> >>>> +Joseph H was born 1749 and wed 1773 >>>> >>>>> Elizabeth Queen b. 1792 m. Charles Jones (son of Blind John Jones, >>>>> removed to Haywood County) >>>> >>>> +No record of any such daughter >>>> >>>>> Mary Ann Queen b.c. 1793 m. Robert Hemphill named dau Olive Vine >>>>> Hemphill, removed to Macon County NC) >>>> >>>> + No record of any such daughter >>>> >>>>> George W Queen b. c. 1795 m. Nancy Newton >>>> >>>> + No record of any such son >>>> >>>> >>>> ==== QUEEN Mailing List ==== >>>> GenConnect at Rootsweb >>>> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Queen >>>> QUEEN YDNA PROJECT >>>> http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=X96855&special=True >>>> http://www.ysearch.org/ >>>> >>>> ============================== >>>> View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >>>> marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >>>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >>> Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.0 - Release Date: 4/29/2005 >>> >>> >> > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.0 - Release Date: 4/29/2005 > >

Question about #2: Does David Quinn have anyone who migrated to the US around the timeframe of Charles who "might" be him? ------------------- O Eugene Queen wrote: >We've learned much since biting into the YDNA project. It remains my opinion that, in total, it has been a resounding success. My reading of the results leads me to the following tentative conclusions: > >1. About 19 donors descend in some way from "old" William Queen of ca 1716-20. > >2. Three donors appear to descend from the Charles Queen of VA...and this Charles may very well have been a Quinn as evidenced by the perfect match at 12 markers with David Quinn of Northern Ireland. From a study of the Stephen Post Queen history of this family many years ago, I found nothing to suggest a linkage with "old" William Queen. Thus, the DNA results are as expected insofar as the absence of a match to "old" William Queen. > >3. To my knowledge, Nathan Queen was not a member of a community in which "old" William's kin were located. The name "Queen" was our clue and hope to make a connection to other Queens. But, it was our only clue. The exciting discovery with this sample (with 9 of 12 mismatches to "old" William at the 12 marker level) is the perfect match with a McQueen of South Carolina....with reported documented lineage back to Scotland. > >4. Researchers through the years have been unable to find any evidence of a linkage of Francis Queen to the "old" William clan. For one thing, Francis had too much money....perhaps Rolla is of royal ancestors. Thus, the absence of a genetic linkage was not unexpected. > >5. No evidence has ever been located linking "old" William to the Samuel Queen clan of Maryland. We were grasping at straws in trying to find a link...and we didn't find it through YDNA testing. Those folks moved in different circles than did our "old" William. Thus, no surprise here. > >This leaves 4 samples that have me scratching my head. As I recall, the expectation is that 2-5% of the samples should reflect unreported adoptions or other events somewhere up the family tree; thus 1-2 of these samples may fall into that category using "average" statistical data. If the Queen clan was a bit more rambunctious than average surname folks, then perhaps 10% is a reality for our gang somewhere up in the higher branches of the tree. > >Discouraging results...........I suppose that my discouragement is primarily in two areas: >1. We (and me, I) should have absorbed the reality that there was little likelihood that sons of "old" William would have YDNA different from their pa. The statistical reality was staring us in the face; but I never did the simple math until we were well into the project. In reality, the best we could realistically hope for was a mutation in the DNA of one of the grandchildren...and that the DNA of some of our samples would match that mutation. Well, we're still at our brick walls; but we can see "old" William on the other side of the wall and many can now call him their great XXX or some such grandpa. > >2. The absence of confirming samples in some lineages. This is of great importance in some lineages with mutations; however getting that second sample back up the tree off a different branch has been a real challenge. I know, because I've tried to get some for other lines of interest to me. Still, we must not give up...especially regarding the samples with major unexplained mutations. > >My Alfred's pa?? Beats me; but we certainly have Rev. James Henry Queen of 1847 pegged with YDNA ...and we know from other evidence that his pa was Alfred. > >Hope this rambling is of help to someone. > >Gene > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== QUEEN Mailing List ==== >Visit my homepage: >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegaleire/ >QUEEN YDNA PROJECT >http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=X96855&special=True >http://www.ysearch.org/ > >============================== >Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >New content added every business day. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > > -- Skip Queen Viruses? Spyware? Not me! I use Linux!!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/3YBBAEB/536 Message Board Post: Am looking for any info on Roy E. Queen, Wife Effie (Seidel), living in Omaha, Neb. with Effie's father, Henry Seidel in 1910 Fed. Census. Roy and Effie were in their early 20's. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

We've learned much since biting into the YDNA project. It remains my opinion that, in total, it has been a resounding success. My reading of the results leads me to the following tentative conclusions: 1. About 19 donors descend in some way from "old" William Queen of ca 1716-20. 2. Three donors appear to descend from the Charles Queen of VA...and this Charles may very well have been a Quinn as evidenced by the perfect match at 12 markers with David Quinn of Northern Ireland. From a study of the Stephen Post Queen history of this family many years ago, I found nothing to suggest a linkage with "old" William Queen. Thus, the DNA results are as expected insofar as the absence of a match to "old" William Queen. 3. To my knowledge, Nathan Queen was not a member of a community in which "old" William's kin were located. The name "Queen" was our clue and hope to make a connection to other Queens. But, it was our only clue. The exciting discovery with this sample (with 9 of 12 mismatches to "old" William at the 12 marker level) is the perfect match with a McQueen of South Carolina....with reported documented lineage back to Scotland. 4. Researchers through the years have been unable to find any evidence of a linkage of Francis Queen to the "old" William clan. For one thing, Francis had too much money....perhaps Rolla is of royal ancestors. Thus, the absence of a genetic linkage was not unexpected. 5. No evidence has ever been located linking "old" William to the Samuel Queen clan of Maryland. We were grasping at straws in trying to find a link...and we didn't find it through YDNA testing. Those folks moved in different circles than did our "old" William. Thus, no surprise here. This leaves 4 samples that have me scratching my head. As I recall, the expectation is that 2-5% of the samples should reflect unreported adoptions or other events somewhere up the family tree; thus 1-2 of these samples may fall into that category using "average" statistical data. If the Queen clan was a bit more rambunctious than average surname folks, then perhaps 10% is a reality for our gang somewhere up in the higher branches of the tree. Discouraging results...........I suppose that my discouragement is primarily in two areas: 1. We (and me, I) should have absorbed the reality that there was little likelihood that sons of "old" William would have YDNA different from their pa. The statistical reality was staring us in the face; but I never did the simple math until we were well into the project. In reality, the best we could realistically hope for was a mutation in the DNA of one of the grandchildren...and that the DNA of some of our samples would match that mutation. Well, we're still at our brick walls; but we can see "old" William on the other side of the wall and many can now call him their great XXX or some such grandpa. 2. The absence of confirming samples in some lineages. This is of great importance in some lineages with mutations; however getting that second sample back up the tree off a different branch has been a real challenge. I know, because I've tried to get some for other lines of interest to me. Still, we must not give up...especially regarding the samples with major unexplained mutations. My Alfred's pa?? Beats me; but we certainly have Rev. James Henry Queen of 1847 pegged with YDNA ...and we know from other evidence that his pa was Alfred. Hope this rambling is of help to someone. Gene

Thanks Gene, for the excellent summary. Sometimes somebody needs to put it all in simple perspective. Rolla http://webpages.charter.net/rlqueen/DNA/queenmarker.htm http://www.familytreedna.com/public/queenDNA/ http://webpages.charter.net/rlqueen -------Original Message------- From: O Eugene Queen Date: 05/01/05 22:13:50 To: [email protected] Subject: [QUEEN] Exciting and Discouraging (?) DNA Results We've learned much since biting into the YDNA project. It remains my opinion that, in total, it has been a resounding success. My reading of the results leads me to the following tentative conclusions: 1. About 19 donors descend in some way from "old" William Queen of ca 1716-20. 2. Three donors appear to descend from the Charles Queen of VA...and this Charles may very well have been a Quinn as evidenced by the perfect match at 12 markers with David Quinn of Northern Ireland. From a study of the Stephen Post Queen history of this family many years ago, I found nothing to suggest a linkage with "old" William Queen. Thus, the DNA results are as expected insofar as the absence of a match to "old" William Queen. 3. To my knowledge, Nathan Queen was not a member of a community in which old" William's kin were located. The name "Queen" was our clue and hope to make a connection to other Queens. But, it was our only clue. The exciting discovery with this sample (with 9 of 12 mismatches to "old" William at the 12 marker level) is the perfect match with a McQueen of South Carolina... with reported documented lineage back to Scotland. 4. Researchers through the years have been unable to find any evidence of a linkage of Francis Queen to the "old" William clan. For one thing, Francis had too much money....perhaps Rolla is of royal ancestors. Thus, the absence of a genetic linkage was not unexpected. 5. No evidence has ever been located linking "old" William to the Samuel Queen clan of Maryland. We were grasping at straws in trying to find a link. and we didn't find it through YDNA testing. Those folks moved in different circles than did our "old" William. Thus, no surprise here. This leaves 4 samples that have me scratching my head. As I recall, the expectation is that 2-5% of the samples should reflect unreported adoptions or other events somewhere up the family tree; thus 1-2 of these samples may fall into that category using "average" statistical data. If the Queen clan was a bit more rambunctious than average surname folks, then perhaps 10% is a reality for our gang somewhere up in the higher branches of the tree. Discouraging results...........I suppose that my discouragement is primarily in two areas: 1. We (and me, I) should have absorbed the reality that there was little likelihood that sons of "old" William would have YDNA different from their pa. The statistical reality was staring us in the face; but I never did the simple math until we were well into the project. In reality, the best we could realistically hope for was a mutation in the DNA of one of the grandchildren...and that the DNA of some of our samples would match that mutation. Well, we're still at our brick walls; but we can see "old" William on the other side of the wall and many can now call him their great XXX or some such grandpa. 2. The absence of confirming samples in some lineages. This is of great importance in some lineages with mutations; however getting that second sample back up the tree off a different branch has been a real challenge. I know, because I've tried to get some for other lines of interest to me. Still, we must not give up...especially regarding the samples with major unexplained mutations. My Alfred's pa?? Beats me; but we certainly have Rev. James Henry Queen of 1847 pegged with YDNA ...and we know from other evidence that his pa was Alfred. Hope this rambling is of help to someone. Gene ==== QUEEN Mailing List ==== Visit my homepage: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegaleire/ QUEEN YDNA PROJECT http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=X96855&special=True http://www.ysearch.org/ ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.0 - Release Date: 4/29/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.0 - Release Date: 4/29/2005

I would like to put forth the children of William Lewis Queen Sr as I have them for discussion: William Lewis Queen, Sr. b. c. 1749 Prince Georges County, MC d. 1835 Macon County NC m. Olive? Meredith Queen b. c. 1768 m. Jane Newton Moses Queen ? b. c. 1770 m. Sadie Brown William Lewis Queen, Jr. b. c. 1774 married Margaret (removed to Haywood County NC named dau Olive Vine Queen) Samuel Queen b. c. 1776 m. Nancy (named dau Olive Queen) James Queen b. c. 1778 m. Sarah Jones d. of William Jones) Catherine Queen b. c. 1780 m. Josiah Jones son of Blind John Jones of Rutherford, removed to GA) Rebecca Queen b. 1785 m. Robert Jones (son of Blind John Jones, named a dau Olivine) Virginia Queen b. 1787 m. Joshua Hall (removed to Haywood County NC) Olive Vine Queen b. 1789 m. Edward Jones (son of Blind John Jones, removed to Haywood County) Joseph H Queen b. c. 1790 m. Ursula Jones (dau of Blind John Jones, named dau Olive Vine, removed to GA) Elizabeth Queen b. 1792 m. Charles Jones (son of Blind John Jones, removed to Haywood County) Mary Ann Queen b.c. 1793 m. Robert Hemphill named dau Olive Vine Hemphill, removed to Macon County NC) George W Queen b. c. 1795 m. Nancy Newton there is some speculation but seem reasonable and there is significance in the name Olive Vine which points to the Mother being named Olive (there is a Oliff Queen on a 1788 document in Rutherford County with William Queen Sr....I will appreciate corrections. Paul Mears

I have never been accused of being the resident scholar, but here is each question preceded by an arrow > and what I have in my records preceded by an +. All of this pertains to the children of William Lewis Queen Sr. >I would like to put forth the children of William Lewis Queen Sr as I have >them for discussion: > > William Lewis Queen, Sr. b. c. 1749 Prince Georges County, MC d. 1835 > Macon County NC m. Olive? > > Meredith Queen b. c. 1768 m. Jane Newton +Merdedith was born 1775 and wed 1797 > Moses Queen ? b. c. 1770 m. Sadie Brown +Moses was born 1781 and married Jane Weedon > William Lewis Queen, Jr. b. c. 1774 married Margaret (removed to Haywood > County NC named dau Olive Vine Queen) + William Lewis Jr. was wed 1797 to Mary Orr > Samuel Queen b. c. 1776 m. Nancy (named dau Olive Queen) +No record of any such son > James Queen b. c. 1778 m. Sarah Jones d. of William Jones) +James Queen born 1777 and wed 1802 > Catherine Queen b. c. 1780 m. Josiah Jones son of Blind John Jones of > Rutherford, removed to GA) + No record of her anywhere > Rebecca Queen b. 1785 m. Robert Jones (son of Blind John Jones, named a > dau Olivine) + No record of any such daughter > Virginia Queen b. 1787 m. Joshua Hall (removed to Haywood County NC) + Hooray, we agree ! > Olive Vine Queen b. 1789 m. Edward Jones (son of Blind John Jones, removed > to Haywood County) + There was an Olive Queen born in 1807 who wed Carter Ross. Olive Vine Queen was born to Joseph H. in 1819 > Joseph H Queen b. c. 1790 m. Ursula Jones (dau of Blind John Jones, named > dau Olive Vine, removed to GA) +Joseph H was born 1749 and wed 1773 > Elizabeth Queen b. 1792 m. Charles Jones (son of Blind John Jones, removed > to Haywood County) +No record of any such daughter > Mary Ann Queen b.c. 1793 m. Robert Hemphill named dau Olive Vine Hemphill, > removed to Macon County NC) + No record of any such daughter > George W Queen b. c. 1795 m. Nancy Newton + No record of any such son

----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Mears" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 4:23 PM Subject: [QUEEN] William Lewis Queen Sr >I would like to put forth the children of William Lewis Queen Sr as I have >them for discussion: > > William Lewis Queen, Sr. b. c. 1749 Prince Georges County, MC d. 1835 > Macon County NC m. Olive? > > Meredith Queen b. c. 1768 m. Jane Newton > Moses Queen ? b. c. 1770 m. Sadie Brown > William Lewis Queen, Jr. b. c. 1774 married Margaret (removed to Haywood > County NC named dau Olive Vine Queen) > Samuel Queen b. c. 1776 m. Nancy (named dau Olive Queen) > James Queen b. c. 1778 m. Sarah Jones d. of William Jones) > Catherine Queen b. c. 1780 m. Josiah Jones son of Blind John Jones of > Rutherford, removed to GA) > Rebecca Queen b. 1785 m. Robert Jones (son of Blind John Jones, named a > dau Olivine) > Virginia Queen b. 1787 m. Joshua Hall (removed to Haywood County NC) > Olive Vine Queen b. 1789 m. Edward Jones (son of Blind John Jones, removed > to Haywood County) > Joseph H Queen b. c. 1790 m. Ursula Jones (dau of Blind John Jones, named > dau Olive Vine, removed to GA) > Elizabeth Queen b. 1792 m. Charles Jones (son of Blind John Jones, removed > to Haywood County) > Mary Ann Queen b.c. 1793 m. Robert Hemphill named dau Olive Vine Hemphill, > removed to Macon County NC) > George W Queen b. c. 1795 m. Nancy Newton > > there is some speculation but seem reasonable and there is significance in > the name Olive Vine which points to the Mother being named Olive (there is > a Oliff Queen on a 1788 document in Rutherford County with William Queen > Sr....I will appreciate corrections. > > Paul Mears > > > ==== QUEEN Mailing List ==== > Visit my homepage to view old Queen documents: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegaleire/ > QUEEN YDNA PROJECT > http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=X96855&special=True > http://www.ysearch.org/ > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.0 - Release Date: 4/29/2005 > >