This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: QUEEN Classification: Cemetery Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3YBBAEB/546 Message Board Post: QUEEN_Jackie_Lou_1932-1932.JPG I photographed this gravestone in the Eakins Cemetery, Ponder, Denton Co., TX. Feel free to use the picture for your personal records. This is one of the 123,428 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: QUEEN Classification: Cemetery Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3YBBAEB/545 Message Board Post: QUEEN_Lillie_Mae_and_Sam.JPG I photographed this gravestone in the Eakins Cemetery, Ponder, Denton Co., TX. Feel free to use the picture for your personal records. This is one of the 123,428 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com

I'm working on a project and I wonder if anyone has a photo, civil war or otherwise, of my Great Grandfather John Henderson Queen. He was a son of Jamison Queen of Burke County, NC. Don Queen

This site was recommended to us. Check the Queen names (and others), 1857 [?]. Katy http://www.usgennet.org/usa/region/southeast/garabun/court/poorchil/index.html#q

By the way, I just convinced my 81 year old uncle to do the DNA test for my mother's side the family, so now I have complete DNA signatures for 3 of my 4 main lines, the Queen, Cassity, and Ball. Higgins comes next. DNA is the gift that keeps on giving. Once my mother's brothers pass on there is only 1 Cassity male granchild to carry on the name, and the YDNA. The YDNA line is desperately close to extinction. By capturing my Uncle's DNA signiture, my descendants and future researchers for the Cassitys, and Queens, and Balls, will be able to carry on research, even if there are no modern male descendants in the line. By capturing his DNA, we have confirmed the Cassity line back to a confirmed common ancestor, and I have suddenly been introduced to a lot of people holding a lot of really good research on my mother's early family heritage. Imagine if I had not got the DNA test done. I could not confirm, only speculate, as to whether my Cassity's, their Cassidy's, the other Cassiday's where related or not. Now I don't have to speculate! And I certainly would not have met the distant relatives of my family on this list who have been so generous with their research and corrections. That is what it is al about! It's like instant family in a can! All you really have to do is spit in a bottle! Rolla http://webpages.charter.net/rlqueen/DNA/queenmarker.htm http://www.familytreedna.com/public/queenDNA/ http://webpages.charter.net/rlqueen -------Original Message------- From: O Eugene Queen Date: 07/23/05 06:29:45 To: [email protected] Subject: [QUEEN] YDNA Not Individually Unique Greetings all, Perhaps one characteristic of YDNA has not been adequately explained to those who hesitate to participate as donors. I'd like to try and explain and will welcome any additional facts/assurances YDNA as used in the Queen YDNA Project is absolutely NOT unique to an individual. (If it were, then the DNA project would be of absolutely no value to family researchers.) Thus, YDNA cannot be used to identify a specific participant, his father, grandfather, brother, etc. YDNA is unique only to a family lineage and that unique characteristic can be traced for many generations of the male lineage. Examples: We have results of samples of 6 or more living male Queens whose YDNA is an exact replica of the YDNA of William Queen of 1716-20. Thus, every male Queen in the direct lineage of these participants to William carried this same YDNA. And....most or all of these donors are NOT closely related (not brothers, father/son, first cousins, etc.) In my own situation where we have samples from a number of documented family relationships, the following has been proven thus far: 1. My YDNA is an exact copy of the YDNA of a first cousin that has also provided a sample. 2. The YDNA of my first cousin is an exact copy of that of my father. 3. My YDNA is an exact copy of my first cousin's father. 4. Since my cousin's father was a brother to my dad; the YDNA of our grandfather is the same as our YDNA. Conclusion: Any concern or fear that "omigosh someone knows what my YDNA is" is totally unfounded. The University of Arizona is not testing areas of the Y chromosome identifying us as unique individuals; it is testing those markers that identify us as similar to others. It is this similarity in YDNA that is useful to family researchers. No one cares what the "total identify" is of all possible markers on a strand of chromosome. This would make a sample unique, thus of no benefit to any Queen researcher. I will certainly be willing to discuss this issue privately by phone or e-mail with anyone who has concerns in this regard. We can also put such persons in contact with the folks who are truly experts in the field of family YDNA research. Keep the samples coming! Thanks, Gene ==== QUEEN Mailing List ==== QUEEN (Q500) at ROOTSWEB http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/q/u/QUEEN/ QUEEN YDNA PROJECT http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=X96855&special=True http://www.ysearch.org/ ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.4/57 - Release Date: 7/22/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.4/57 - Release Date: 7/22/2005

Well said, Gene. It is very important to remember that any individual's total DNA signature (fingerprint, so to speak) is unique, but it is also the result of the continual remixing of genetic material from generation to generation and includes snippets of DNA from all the grandfathers, grandmothers, great grandfathers and great grandmothers that have come before. That is why the YDNA is unique and so important for genealogists. It is only passed from father to son, it is not remixed, and it does not change except very very rarely and only from "internal" causes - mutations that occur during the process of DNA replication when the genetic material is being cloned to the next generation. That's right, when it comes to YDNA, all us male descendants are pretty much clones! Except for Gene, who pretty much insists on doing things his own way no matter what, right! This is also why YDNA is not useful for Crime Scene Investigation - implicates all male descendants from a common ancestor in the crime. But good-old regular reshuffled and unique DNA is useful for CSI - unless of course you are trying nail O.J.. Hey! But the glove didn't fit! Yeah! But the DNA glove did! Anyway, Gene's message provides a great and easy to understand explanation. thanks Rolla http://webpages.charter.net/rlqueen/DNA/queenmarker.htm http://www.familytreedna.com/public/queenDNA/ http://webpages.charter.net/rlqueen -------Original Message------- From: O Eugene Queen Date: 07/23/05 06:29:45 To: [email protected] Subject: [QUEEN] YDNA Not Individually Unique Greetings all, Perhaps one characteristic of YDNA has not been adequately explained to those who hesitate to participate as donors. I'd like to try and explain and will welcome any additional facts/assurances YDNA as used in the Queen YDNA Project is absolutely NOT unique to an individual. (If it were, then the DNA project would be of absolutely no value to family researchers.) Thus, YDNA cannot be used to identify a specific participant, his father, grandfather, brother, etc. YDNA is unique only to a family lineage and that unique characteristic can be traced for many generations of the male lineage. Examples: We have results of samples of 6 or more living male Queens whose YDNA is an exact replica of the YDNA of William Queen of 1716-20. Thus, every male Queen in the direct lineage of these participants to William carried this same YDNA. And....most or all of these donors are NOT closely related (not brothers, father/son, first cousins, etc.) In my own situation where we have samples from a number of documented family relationships, the following has been proven thus far: 1. My YDNA is an exact copy of the YDNA of a first cousin that has also provided a sample. 2. The YDNA of my first cousin is an exact copy of that of my father. 3. My YDNA is an exact copy of my first cousin's father. 4. Since my cousin's father was a brother to my dad; the YDNA of our grandfather is the same as our YDNA. Conclusion: Any concern or fear that "omigosh someone knows what my YDNA is" is totally unfounded. The University of Arizona is not testing areas of the Y chromosome identifying us as unique individuals; it is testing those markers that identify us as similar to others. It is this similarity in YDNA that is useful to family researchers. No one cares what the "total identify" is of all possible markers on a strand of chromosome. This would make a sample unique, thus of no benefit to any Queen researcher. I will certainly be willing to discuss this issue privately by phone or e-mail with anyone who has concerns in this regard. We can also put such persons in contact with the folks who are truly experts in the field of family YDNA research. Keep the samples coming! Thanks, Gene ==== QUEEN Mailing List ==== QUEEN (Q500) at ROOTSWEB http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/q/u/QUEEN/ QUEEN YDNA PROJECT http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=X96855&special=True http://www.ysearch.org/ ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.4/57 - Release Date: 7/22/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.4/57 - Release Date: 7/22/2005

Greetings all, Perhaps one characteristic of YDNA has not been adequately explained to those who hesitate to participate as donors. I'd like to try and explain and will welcome any additional facts/assurances. YDNA as used in the Queen YDNA Project is absolutely NOT unique to an individual. (If it were, then the DNA project would be of absolutely no value to family researchers.) Thus, YDNA cannot be used to identify a specific participant, his father, grandfather, brother, etc. YDNA is unique only to a family lineage and that unique characteristic can be traced for many generations of the male lineage. Examples: We have results of samples of 6 or more living male Queens whose YDNA is an exact replica of the YDNA of William Queen of 1716-20. Thus, every male Queen in the direct lineage of these participants to William carried this same YDNA. And....most or all of these donors are NOT closely related (not brothers, father/son, first cousins, etc.) In my own situation where we have samples from a number of documented family relationships, the following has been proven thus far: 1. My YDNA is an exact copy of the YDNA of a first cousin that has also provided a sample. 2. The YDNA of my first cousin is an exact copy of that of my father. 3. My YDNA is an exact copy of my first cousin's father. 4. Since my cousin's father was a brother to my dad; the YDNA of our grandfather is the same as our YDNA. Conclusion: Any concern or fear that "omigosh someone knows what my YDNA is" is totally unfounded. The University of Arizona is not testing areas of the Y chromosome identifying us as unique individuals; it is testing those markers that identify us as similar to others. It is this similarity in YDNA that is useful to family researchers. No one cares what the "total identify" is of all possible markers on a strand of chromosome. This would make a sample unique, thus of no benefit to any Queen researcher. I will certainly be willing to discuss this issue privately by phone or e-mail with anyone who has concerns in this regard. We can also put such persons in contact with the folks who are truly experts in the field of family YDNA research. Keep the samples coming! Thanks, Gene

Attn: Joann Rhodes. I tried to e-mail you directly, but your addy refused to accept. The above individual is my family line. I see by some of your posts that someone has given you incorrect information on above. If you will contact me directly i will give you correct info. A fellow researcher. Ed Crafford.

The participant for 22029 was actually a member of the "Power" surname group first. In case that rings even more bells. Rolla http://webpages.charter.net/rlqueen/DNA/queenmarker.htm http://www.familytreedna.com/public/queenDNA/ http://webpages.charter.net/rlqueen -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.9.1/51 - Release Date: 7/18/2005

Hi group! Sorry, I have been lurking lately, not too attentive to active discussion, just way too busy for some reason this summer. Work, kids, what have you. Anyway, time to chime in on a few developments. First, we do actually have about six tests either ordered or in progress and this represents a "next" phase in a push to increase the number of participants in our study and better define some of the results for various groups. In addition, FamilyTreeDNA has created a new option for individuals which allows one to belong to two DNA surname studies at a time. It has only been available for a week, but we have already had one person from another surname study petition to be included in our study based on a 12 marker perfect match. What this means for some of you remains to be seen, but if we start from an operative premise that someone with a different surname but a perfect DNA match might actually related, then this bit of information might be of incredible use to fitting in pieces of the puzzle. I have included the results in the website, as part of Group 1 Queens, test 22029. As you will see, the most distant ancestor is listed as Chauncey Poor, ca 1870, probably Arkansas. However, I am not sure the participant is monitoring the Queen-L list yet. I have encouraged him to subscribe. If his info rings a bell for anyone, let me know and I will arrange an exchange of emails, etc. I have also been in contact with the Quinn group administrator and he recently sent me updated results. I am asking his permission to display certain relevant results on our webpage. These results also will be of interest to those looking beyond America perhaps to European common ancestors. So keep posted on the webpage for updates. Rolla http://webpages.charter.net/rlqueen/DNA/queenmarker.htm http://www.familytreedna.com/public/queenDNA/ http://webpages.charter.net/rlqueen -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.9.1/51 - Release Date: 7/18/2005

Hi All, Below is some further info on Althea (Altha) Queen. Margaret posted at the end of May the announcement that they were going to have a program concerning this Queen family. Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 3:51 PM Subject: Re: [QUEEN] Altha Queen Althea Queen was the wife of Alexious Queen of Washington, DC. They lived in the NW section of the city known as Tenleytown. Althea was the daughter of William Paxton and Ruth Selman who wed in Frederick Co. MD in 1802. She was born in 1809. She lived one hundred years and she had a number of sister and brothers who married other Tenleytown families. Her husband Alexis (AKA known as Electious) Queen was the son of Samuel Queen, who was the son of Richard Queen who in his will gave Queen's Chapel to Archbishop John Carroll in 1792. Queen's Chapel is locate just outside of DC in Prince George's County Maryland. Richard was the son of Marsham Queen, who was in turn was the son of Samuel Queen. Richard Marsham was the father of Katherine who wed Samuel Queen. Althea (Paxton) Queen tracks back to Anthony West who was at Jamestown. Althea was a Methodist while her husband was a Roman Catholic. Althea gave an interview to the Washington Times in 1905 in which she gave quite a bit of family information. It contained pictures of five generations of her family. WE will be honoring her and others buried in the cemetery located behind Eldbrooke Methodist Church on 9 October of this year at 2:00. There will be two genealogical lectures and we will honor those who were formally deeded the cemetery and other leaders in the history of Tenleytown. Again this is the NW corner of Washington, DC. Margaret Amundson. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.9.0/50 - Release Date: 7/16/2005

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Queen, Gray, Miller, Lambert Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/3YBBAEB/544 Message Board Post: Looking for information on Martha "Mattie" (Miller) Queen who married Daniel Gray about 1883, probably in Prentiss County, Mississippi. They moved to McNairy County, Tennessee after 1890 and before 1900. Martha was the widow of William J. Queen of Tishomingo/Prentiss County, Mississippi and had two children, Tilda A. Queen and Willie Belle Queen when she married Daniel Gray. They had an additional 3 children together: James William Gray, Jacob Franklin Gray, and Mary Gray. I believe that Daniel and Martha are buried in the Carter Cemetery in McNairy County, Tennessee as listed below: "D.G. Gray 9-30-1860 10/2/1951 Mattie Gray 5-11-1854 9/15/1915" Also, I believe that Tilda A Queen may have married a Charles A. Lambert (son of Archibald Lambert) and had a son by the name of Glen D. Lambert. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Luann

----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 12:10 PM Subject: New feature: Joining two DNA Projects > To Queen group manager, > > The widely requested feature to allow individuals to join two DNA Projects > > at the same time has been implemented as of this morning - 7/5/2005. > The implementation allows for the following: > a) individuals that do not belong to any project will now see a button in > their personal pages which allows them to search for a project and join. > The joining of a project follows the same rules that the group has in > place, i.e. if the group has in place a "Join Request", the person will > have to be approved before joining. > > b) individuals that already belong to a project will also see a button in > their personal page allowing them to search for a second project and join. > The joining of a second project follows the same rules that the group has > in place, i.e. if the group has in place a "Join Request", the person will > have to be approved before joining. > > c) the "Join" button will be seen in the personal page as long as the > person still has the possibility of joining a second project. > > d) as before, the Group Administrator will be notified both on new > members, and on "Join Requests". A new link "Allow Join" in the GAP shows > up if 1) you have your group set to admit new members through a "Join > Request" AND 2) you have requests to join your surname project from > members that have already been tested and are pending approval. Once > someone that has tested, whether from the Genographic Project or from > Family Tree DNA, sends you a "Join Request", do not reply to that person > with a "join link" since this may prompt the person to order a new test > that is not needed. Instead, check your GAP for the "Allow Join" link, and > you will see a list of pending approvals with 2 options: "Allowed", and > "Not Allowed". If you check "Allowed", the person will immediately join > your project and receive a notification. If you check "Not Allowed", a new > window will show up with an e-mail form so that you can explain to the > person why you are not allowing and what is the Group requirement to join > the project. The link will disappear if there are no pending requests. > > e) You will also see an "X" icon in the Members page at the GAP. This icon > allows you to remove a person from the Group. Please use it in a judicious > way, as it will also require that you e-mail the person explaining why you > are excluding him/her from the project. > > Finally, a word about allowing or not allowing people to join projects: I > know that some of you have had different requirements for individuals to > join a project. I've heard once an excellent speaker talk about > "reciprocity" and > how things work on a "give and take" way. He also said that it is much > easier to get something from someone when you start by giving them > something. I believe that your projects can be enhanced if you don't > reject people outright. While keeping your "Join Requests" in place, you > can now say to the person that you are allowing to Join, but that the > project would work much better if the person meets your requirements. Let > the person join. Follow-up with the person. Make the person see why your > request would enhance the project, and give the person some time. > Remember, the new features allow you to remove a person if after some time > that person will not meet your project requirements. > I am sure you will get more participants meeting your requirements if you > give them the opportunity to do it without rejecting them from the outset. > > As always, thank you for your continued support! > > E-mail me any time! > > Max Blankfeld > Vice-President, Operations and Marketing > http://www.FamilyTreeDNA.com > "History Unearthed Daily" > [email protected] > 713-868-1438 > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9/42 - Release Date: 7/6/2005 > >

The average American eats 142 pounds of taters a year. (Gene's family wasn't average. We ate potatoes at least twice a day back in the 40's and, on occasion, it was the only food on the table except for bread and milk.) Over 30 BILLION pounds of potatoes are grown in the US each year. Clemson Univ recommends leaving harvested potatoes exposed to the sun for 1-2 hours to allow for the soil to dry and fall off. Kansas State instructs "Do not expose to direct sunshine for more than 15 minutes on a hot day." Gene advises that neither living humans nor harvested potatoes will freeze if stored underground below the frost line (or on top of the ground in the Piedmont if covered well with 2 or more feet of North Carolina dirt). Frost line: "The depth to which the ground freezes below the surface. This varies from region to region..." Now we know beans about taters. Gene

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Queen, Harkins, Redden Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3YBBAEB/543 Message Board Post: I am looking for information on Vassie M Queen b.24 May 1934 Clayton, Rabun Co., Ga. d. 2 Nov 1993 Gainsville, Ga. She married an Unknown Harkins. They had 3 children William V Harkins, John Harkins, and Brenda Harkins. Her parents were Paul Jackson Queen and Leona Redden. I am most intrested in the first name of her husband. Thanks in advance for any info.....

Gene, have you ever had Queen fries? They are really great--they are the curley-que ones that are about 8 to 10 inches long all curled up. A special machine cuts them. Katy

I must be Irish (see subject), but I need some help. Perhaps won't get my hands slapped too hard with a short post to list. Please respond off-list if we start getting complaints or instructions to do so; or if one believes it to be more appropriate. 1. What are the different ways Queens prepare Irish potatoes for eating? No recipes, please. Just general statements. 2. After plowing out my potatoes, how long should I leave them in the sun to prevent bruising when picking up and gently placing in basket? I'll spray with lime while they're curing, awaiting winter and back in the ground for winter storage. 3. What does one mean when they say "Red Pontiacs don't keep as well as Kennebec or Cobbler"? 4. Based on today's "harvest" of 10 bushels, I expect about 30-40 total of P & K. For me, it's a bumper crop. Taters anyone? Thanks, Gene

I send a great big thank you to all who have so diligently worked on the DNA project. And thanks to all who have supported the project in funds or in any other way..I read every post with interest. I know such a little about the work going on , that I'm trying to help by staying out of the way. My thanks to all Betty

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3YBBAEB/385.2 Message Board Post: Hi Wendy, John William Queen was my gggrandad his son was Walter S. Queen my ggrandad. Both are buried in Mo. J. W. in Edina and Walter in Millport cemetary in Rutledge, Mo. Hope to hear from you, Robert

ONE YEAR of Y-DNA You guessed it! Happy Anniversary to the Queens, Past, Present and Future*. We now have a year of DNA experience behind us and -----some interesting conundrums. Will we press on, will we make new discoveries, will we succeed????? Yes, Yes, Yes. Our Y-DNA will be stored for 25 years! We can't lose! ANNIVERSARY ACCOMPLISHMENTS Here's the picture: Some 45 Queens have joined our effort, coaxed by worthy cousins, friends, and hangers-on. They have invested money and time, and many hours of genealogy work: Y-DNA 12 Marker = $99, group. Y-DNA 25-Marker = $169. Y-DNA 36-Marker = $219. We have an interesting website aimed at explaining the results of our 40 or so kits. For that, color and all, we can thank ROLLA QUEEN, Queen Web Master, who, since last September, has done the lion's share of keeping up with the chart changes on a week to week basis and giving us a visual we can understand. RITA BARTMESS and PAULETTE DUNN signed on as Co-Administrators and traveled to Houston for Family Tree's first ever DNA Conference last October, and are standing by for the 2005 Conference in Virginia. Rita and Paulette handle our Queen General Fund where we take contributions. A committee decides the dispursal. QUEEN-LIST, WE CAN'T DO WITHOUT YOU Thanks, for eternity, to CAROL (and Mandy) for establishing Queen-List so that we can get on the Web early in the morning, or late at night, and explore what's running through our genealogical minds. I equate it with the Running of the Bulls in Spain, where they resurfaced the streets to keep the bulls from stumbling and falling....it didn't work. No amount of lovely facilitations [cemeteries, family histories, DNA] will ever take the place of trial-and-error discussions in working out our brick walls; for that we have Queen-List. We've worked on Pleasant and Alfred, and Henson; We plan to work on Charles, Francis, and Ohio. Shall we say, we have plenty of work ahead of us? * Now we have our future before us, represented by Mr. Jackson Wesley Queen, our 2005 Queen Mascot, born May 11, 2005, to Charlton and Carmen. Welcome to the Queen Family, Jackson! Katy McMillen, Group Administrator, Queen Y-DNA http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=X96855&special=True