This is a message that I had tried to send when our list was down. Don't think it ever went through so am resending it. Joyce Don't know if Fred or someone else on list wrote following message which I kept in my notes I have been asked for the source of Jacques middle name Jean. Perhaps the numbers 2092-2093 would be a link to the source. quote from Fred Provencha's list 2092. Jacques Jean BOUCHER was born about 1562 in Mortagne, Chartres, Perche, France. He died before 30 Jul 1611 in , , France. He married Francoise PAIGNE on 04 Jul 1582 in Mortagne,Perche,Orne,France. 2093. Francoise PAIGNE was born about 1564 in Mortagne, Chartres, Perche, France. She died before 30 Jul 1611 in , , France. unquote