Of course you are right Mona: the Fichier Origine notes that the link between the 1601 baptism of a Jeanne and the 1629 Marriage of a Jeanne is not proven because the parents are not named in the marriage. However, the fact that Jeanne is the sister of Marin seems established although I don't know the source of the information. Now that the Fichier origine gives Pierre Boucher and Roberte parent as Jeanne's parents, albeit with a caveat, it extends to Marin the same parents, and no doubt this will spread and become a fact although it is not a proven fact. It would be nice if further research in France could dig up the missing proof:, given that Marin Boucher is one of the most important pioneers with a great many descendants. Bertrand Desjardins PRDH -----Message d'origine----- De : quebec-research-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:quebec-research-bounces@rootsweb.com] De la part de Mona Andrée Rainville Envoyé : 13 avril 2014 12:35 À : quebec-research@rootsweb.com Objet : Re: [Q-R] RE : Jeanne Boucher 1601-1670 Until such time as can be proven that the Jeanne BOUCHER baptized on May 1st is the same Jeanne BOUCHER who married thomas HAYET, they remain unknown. Mona On 14-04-13 12:13 PM, linp219@aol.com wrote: > So who are the correct parents for these two people, Jeanne and Marin Boucher ?? > > Linnie > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Desjardins Bertrand <bertrand.desjardins@umontreal.ca> > To: Patricia LeBeau <kola626@embarqmail.com>; quebec-research > <quebec-research@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sun, Apr 13, 2014 12:05 pm > Subject: [Q-R] RE : Jeanne Boucher 1601-1670 > > > You are right and I have written about it to Marcel Fournier, > coordinator of the Fichier Origine. > > Bertrand Desjardins > PRDH > ________________________________________ > De : quebec-research-bounces@rootsweb.com > [quebec-research-bounces@rootsweb.com] > de la part de Patricia LeBeau [kola626@embarqmail.com] Envoyé : 13 > avril 2014 09:17 À : quebec-research@rootsweb.com Objet : [Q-R] > Jeanne Boucher 1601-1670 > > I know this is probably old stuff to most of the list, but I just > discovered this lady in my Jette (page 560) married to Thomas Hayot or > Ayotte 15 Jul 1629 in St-Jean, Mortagne-au-Perche, France. In his > biographical sketch of her, Jette says "sister of Marin Boucher > married to Julienne Baril." > > Since Marin is my 7th great-grandfather, I got mildly excited, even > though the entry shows her parents as ... & ..., as it does for Marin. > Many, many online trees show Marin as the brother of Gaspard Boucher, > son of Jacques and Francoise Paigne, but an equal number say No, they > are related somehow but not fraternally. > > BUT, Fichier Origine certificate #240487, updated 7 Nov 2011, gives > Jeanne's date of baptism as 1 May 1601 in St-Jean, Mortagne-au-Perche > and her parents as Pierre Boucher and Roberte Parent. In the Remarques > it says "Elle est la soeur de Marin Boucher, époux en premières noces > de Julienne Baril et en deuxième noces de Perrine Malet. Deux jumeaux : > Noël et Noëlle sont baptisés le 25-12-1604. Une autre soeur Martine > est baptisée le 07-07-1606 à l'église Saint-Jean." > > This I translate as "she is the sister of Marin Boucher, husband in a > first marriage of Julienne Baril and in a second of Perrine Malet. Two > twins, Noel and Noelle were baptized 25 Dec 1604. Another sister > Martine was baptized 7 Jul 1606 at the church of St. Jean." > > If she has parents and is the sister of Marin, why does he not have > the same parents, at least the father? in case Pierre remarried as so > many were wont to. > > This is driving me crazy, though my golfing relatives would say it > more like a short putt, so can someone please put my brain at rest? > > Thanks in advance > > Patricia LeBeau > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm > And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ > List Archives are at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > QUEBEC-RESEARCH-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > body of the message > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm > And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ > List Archives are at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > QUEBEC-RESEARCH-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > body of the message > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm > And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ > List Archives are at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > QUEBEC-RESEARCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUEBEC-RESEARCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I see Jeanne Boucher updated today does not say she is sister of Marin. Doesn't mention Marin. On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 7:01 AM, Desjardins Bertrand < bertrand.desjardins@umontreal.ca> wrote: > Of course you are right Mona: the Fichier Origine notes that the link > between the 1601 baptism of a Jeanne and the 1629 Marriage of a Jeanne is > not proven because the parents are not named in the marriage. However, the > fact that Jeanne is the sister of Marin seems established although I don't > know the source of the information. > > Now that the Fichier origine gives Pierre Boucher and Roberte parent as > Jeanne's parents, albeit with a caveat, it extends to Marin the same > parents, and no doubt this will spread and become a fact although it is not > a proven fact. It would be nice if further research in France could dig up > the missing proof:, given that Marin Boucher is one of the most important > pioneers with a great many descendants. > > Bertrand Desjardins > PRDH > > -----Message d'origine----- > De : quebec-research-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto: > quebec-research-bounces@rootsweb.com] De la part de Mona Andrée Rainville > Envoyé : 13 avril 2014 12:35 > À : quebec-research@rootsweb.com > Objet : Re: [Q-R] RE : Jeanne Boucher 1601-1670 > > Until such time as can be proven that the Jeanne BOUCHER baptized on May > 1st is the same Jeanne BOUCHER who married thomas HAYET, they remain > unknown. > > Mona > > >

Good morning Bertrand, The link between Jeanne BOUCHER (wife of Thomas HAYET) and Marin BOUCHER is established in the marriage contract of Marie BOUCHER daughter of Marin, to Charles GODIN, on October 1, 1656, wherein Thomas HAYET and Jeanne BOUCHER are described as "oncle et tante de l'épouse", oncle and aunt of the bride. Furthermore, a Jeanne BOUCHER is godmother to Jean BOUCHER, son of Marin and Julienne BARIL, in Saint-Langis, on March 15, 1613. Most of what is known of this family was published in an article of the Mémoires (MSGCF), in 1957. If you take a look at the FO today, you'll see that yesterday's optimism was short lived. The parents of Marin Boucher remain unknown. The research in France is on-going as we speak but cannot progress beyond the available records. As often happens, I think it likely the answer we seek lurks somewhere in our own archives, possibly in Trois-Rivières, just waiting for the right person to turn the right page and connect the dots. ;o)) Cheers, Mona On 14-04-14 10:01 AM, Desjardins Bertrand wrote: > Of course you are right Mona: the Fichier Origine notes that the link between the 1601 baptism of a Jeanne and the 1629 Marriage of a Jeanne is not proven because the parents are not named in the marriage. However, the fact that Jeanne is the sister of Marin seems established although I don't know the source of the information. > > Now that the Fichier origine gives Pierre Boucher and Roberte parent as Jeanne's parents, albeit with a caveat, it extends to Marin the same parents, and no doubt this will spread and become a fact although it is not a proven fact. It would be nice if further research in France could dig up the missing proof:, given that Marin Boucher is one of the most important pioneers with a great many descendants. > > Bertrand Desjardins > PRDH > > -----Message d'origine----- > De : quebec-research-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:quebec-research-bounces@rootsweb.com] De la part de Mona Andrée Rainville > Envoyé : 13 avril 2014 12:35 > À : quebec-research@rootsweb.com > Objet : Re: [Q-R] RE : Jeanne Boucher 1601-1670 > > Until such time as can be proven that the Jeanne BOUCHER baptized on May 1st is the same Jeanne BOUCHER who married thomas HAYET, they remain unknown. > > Mona > > On 14-04-13 12:13 PM, linp219@aol.com wrote: >> So who are the correct parents for these two people, Jeanne and Marin Boucher ?? >> >> Linnie >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Desjardins Bertrand <bertrand.desjardins@umontreal.ca> >> To: Patricia LeBeau <kola626@embarqmail.com>; quebec-research >> <quebec-research@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sun, Apr 13, 2014 12:05 pm >> Subject: [Q-R] RE : Jeanne Boucher 1601-1670 >> >> >> You are right and I have written about it to Marcel Fournier, >> coordinator of the Fichier Origine. >> >> Bertrand Desjardins >> PRDH >> ________________________________________ >> De : quebec-research-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [quebec-research-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> de la part de Patricia LeBeau [kola626@embarqmail.com] Envoyé : 13 >> avril 2014 09:17 À : quebec-research@rootsweb.com Objet : [Q-R] >> Jeanne Boucher 1601-1670 >> >> I know this is probably old stuff to most of the list, but I just >> discovered this lady in my Jette (page 560) married to Thomas Hayot or >> Ayotte 15 Jul 1629 in St-Jean, Mortagne-au-Perche, France. In his >> biographical sketch of her, Jette says "sister of Marin Boucher >> married to Julienne Baril." >> >> Since Marin is my 7th great-grandfather, I got mildly excited, even >> though the entry shows her parents as ... & ..., as it does for Marin. >> Many, many online trees show Marin as the brother of Gaspard Boucher, >> son of Jacques and Francoise Paigne, but an equal number say No, they >> are related somehow but not fraternally. >> >> BUT, Fichier Origine certificate #240487, updated 7 Nov 2011, gives >> Jeanne's date of baptism as 1 May 1601 in St-Jean, Mortagne-au-Perche >> and her parents as Pierre Boucher and Roberte Parent. In the Remarques >> it says "Elle est la soeur de Marin Boucher, époux en premières noces >> de Julienne Baril et en deuxième noces de Perrine Malet. Deux jumeaux : >> Noël et Noëlle sont baptisés le 25-12-1604. Une autre soeur Martine >> est baptisée le 07-07-1606 à l'église Saint-Jean." >> >> This I translate as "she is the sister of Marin Boucher, husband in a >> first marriage of Julienne Baril and in a second of Perrine Malet. Two >> twins, Noel and Noelle were baptized 25 Dec 1604. Another sister >> Martine was baptized 7 Jul 1606 at the church of St. Jean." >> >> If she has parents and is the sister of Marin, why does he not have >> the same parents, at least the father? in case Pierre remarried as so >> many were wont to. >> >> This is driving me crazy, though my golfing relatives would say it >> more like a short putt, so can someone please put my brain at rest? >> >> Thanks in advance >> >> Patricia LeBeau >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm >> And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ >> List Archives are at: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> QUEBEC-RESEARCH-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the >> body of the message >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm >> And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ >> List Archives are at: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> QUEBEC-RESEARCH-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the >> body of the message >> >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm >> And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ >> List Archives are at: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> QUEBEC-RESEARCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm > And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ > List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUEBEC-RESEARCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message